[scifinoir2] How Much Do Music Artists Earn Online?

[Mr. Worf]

 This is interesting. It has come up a few times over the years.
How Much Do Music Artists Earn Online?
April 13, 2010

Recently, the UK government passed The Digital Economy
Actwhich
included many, perhaps draconian, measures to combat online music
piracy (including withdrawing broadband access for persistent pirates).

Much was 
proclaimedabout
how these new
laws would protect musicians and artists
revenueand
livelihoods.

*But how much money do musicians really get paid in this new digital
marketplace?*

[image: How Much Do Music Artists Really Earn Online?]

This image is based on an excellent post at The Cynical
Musiciancalled The
Paradise That Should Have
Beenabout
pitiful digital royalties. (Thanks to
Neilon  for pointing that out). I’ve taken his
calculations and added a few more.

As ever, this was incredibly difficult to research. Industry figures are
hard to get hold of. Some are even secret. Last.Fm’s royalty and payment
system is beyond comprehension. (If you can explain it to me, please get in
touch) 

*Note:* these figures do not include publishing royalties (paid to composers
of songs). The full spreadsheet of data does though. You can see all the
numbers and sources here:http://bit.ly/DigitalRoyalty

*If you have any experiences, data or royalty statements to share, please
post below!*


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Re: [scifinoir2] ISO good book recommendations

[Keith Johnson]

Pure scifi only, or are you open to fantasy as well?- Original Message -From: "Angela Robinson" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:30:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: [scifinoir2] ISO good book recommendations






 



  



  
  
  


It's been a while since I've made time/had time to curl up with a 
book, but now am looking for a good sci-fi novel to sink my teeth 
into.   If you could maybe only get through one sci-fi book this year, 
what would it be? 
 
Angela



 






  
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[scifinoir2] ISO good book recommendations

[Angela Robinson]

It's been a while since I've made time/had time to curl up with a book, but now 
am looking for a good sci-fi novel to sink my teeth into.   If you could maybe 
only get through one sci-fi book this year, what would it be? 

Angela
<>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Martin Baxter]

(standing ovation)

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> But why not just write original black material? Surely we don't have to
> copy "white" films to tell universal stories? You don't have to write a
> "black" movie just because you're black. I know a lot of folks in this group
> disparage Tyler Perry's work, the "Why Did I Get Married?" films are an
> example. They have a lot of Perry's trademark slapstick, and some of what
> can be called "Black" humour, but they deal with larger, more universal
> themes that could be done by any cast, no matter the race.
> I have no problem with remakes within reason, but I don't see why blacks
> need to mine white-based themes in order to tell good stories, be they
> comedy or drama.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelwyn" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:05:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
>
>
>
> Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has
> discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the
> quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife"
> (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric
> Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon."
>
> What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers
> the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel
> black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax
> accountant and a best-selling author.
>
> It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal
> themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this
> being America, often aren't very savory.
>
> When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain
> anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
> say
> > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> > >
> > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get
> in.
> > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less
> than
> > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20
> million
> > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting.
> The
> > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an
> audience,
> > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday,
> putting
> > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> > >
> > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > > underwear.
> > >
> > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> > >
> > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [scifinoir2] You say Whiplash; I say Crimson Dynamo

[Martin Baxter]

Personally, I never thought much of either villain. I always felt that Iron
Man was pulling his punches when he fought them.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> I used to be a big Iron Man fan but I haven't read or purchased a copy of
> the comic since the late seventies. So my recollection of Whiplash was very
> fuzzy.
>
> I went to the Marvel Universe Character bios and looked him up:
>
> http://marvel.com/universe/Whiplash_(Mark_Scarlotti)
>
> Jeez Louise! If there is a sadder villain bio I don't wanna read it.
>
> But I was still confused because the Whiplash bio doesn't look or sound
> anything like the previews I have seen of the Whiplash as played by Mickey
> Rourke.
>
> Then I discover the character Rourke is playing is an amalgam of Whiplash
> and another character called Crimson Dynamo.
>
> Jeez Louise (part two)! There almost as many incarnations of Crimson Dynamo
> as there are of the good Doctor (Who?).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Dynamo
>
> The first Crimson Dynamo was named Anton Vanko so, of course, the movie
> Whiplash/Dynamo is named IVAN Vanko.
>
> Go figure.
>
> ~rave?
>
>  
>

[scifinoir2] You say Whiplash; I say Crimson Dynamo

[Kelwyn]

I used to be a big Iron Man fan but I haven't read or purchased a copy of the 
comic since the late seventies.  So my recollection of Whiplash was very fuzzy. 
 

I went to the Marvel Universe Character bios and looked him up:

http://marvel.com/universe/Whiplash_(Mark_Scarlotti)

Jeez Louise!  If there is a sadder villain bio I don't wanna read it.

But I was still confused because the Whiplash bio doesn't look or sound 
anything like the previews I have seen of the Whiplash as played by Mickey 
Rourke.

Then I discover the character Rourke is playing is an amalgam of Whiplash and 
another character called Crimson Dynamo.

Jeez Louise (part two)!  There almost as many incarnations of Crimson Dynamo as 
there are of the good Doctor (Who?).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Dynamo

The first Crimson Dynamo was named Anton Vanko so, of course, the movie 
Whiplash/Dynamo is named IVAN Vanko.

Go figure.

~rave?

[scifinoir2] Wagner and the Superhero

[Kelwyn]

How 19th century composer's 'Ring' cycle influenced modern comic book

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/11/entertainment/la-ca-ring-heroes11-2010apr11

Richard Wagner's cycle has made its mark on comic books
The roots of Thor and many other comic book figures stretch back to Wagner's 
epic and earlier.

April 11, 2010|By David Ng >>>

Look, up in the sky! In case you haven't noticed already, our entertainment 
stratosphere has grown crowded with muscle-bound superheroes in almost every 
conceivable shape and size: the franchise-rebooted likes of Spider-Man and 
Superman, battle-armored warriors such as Robin Hood and Perseus.

To whom do we owe our super-saturated superhero culture?

It would be easy to lay all of the credit (or blame) at the feet of comic-book 
artists and Hollywood executives. But superhero roots go much deeper than that, 
and if you excavate long enough, you will inevitably bump smack into Richard 
Wagner, the 19th century composer whose four- opera cycle "The Ring of the 
Nibelung" is regarded by many as an important genetic mother ship for today's 
fleet of action heroes.

[scifinoir2] And the weekend box office champ is...

[Kelwyn]

...How to Train your Dragon ($20 mil)

2. Kick Ass ($19.75 mil)

3. Date Night ($17.3 mil)

4. Death at a Funeral ($17 mil)

Kick ass went down 5% from Friday to Saturday ($7.65 mil to $7.25 mil) and fell 
off 33.1% ($4.85) - estimated.

Death at a Funeral went up 19% on Saturday ($6.67 mil) and down 28.9% Sunday 
($4.75 mil) - estimated.

Kick Ass made $6444 per theater.  Death made $6913 per screen).

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Mr. Worf]

Part of the problem is that they force directors into making remakes in
order to stay viable.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> The remake is often a rite of passage.  Martin Scorsese who had done
> exceptional original work (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas) had his
> first commercial hit with a remake of "Cape Fear" ($182 mil worldwide) and
> despite movies like "The Age of Innocence," he has been bankable ever since.
>
> Tim Burton after "Ed Wood," "Mars Attacks," and "Sleepy Hollow," good
> movies all, jump-started his stalled career by directing a remake of "Planet
> of the Apes" ($362 mil worldwide).
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> > I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's
> already been done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought
> it was a remake of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband
> had just died. But either way, why not write original works?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many
> times, in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of
> sh*t get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's
> a message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread
> every time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@... > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has
> discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the
> quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife"
> (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric
> Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon."
> >
> > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers
> the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel
> black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax
> accountant and a best-selling author.
> >
> > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from
> universal themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents -
> which, this being America, often aren't very savory.
> >
> > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain
> anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original.
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I
> can say
> > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get
> in.
> > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less
> than
> > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20
> million
> > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting.
> The
> > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an
> audience,
> > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday,
> putting
> > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> > > >
> > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > > > underwear.
> > > >
> > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> > > >
> > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> > > >
> > > > ~rave!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Kelwyn]

The remake is often a rite of passage.  Martin Scorsese who had done 
exceptional original work (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas) had his first 
commercial hit with a remake of "Cape Fear" ($182 mil worldwide) and despite 
movies like "The Age of Innocence," he has been bankable ever since.

Tim Burton after "Ed Wood," "Mars Attacks," and "Sleepy Hollow," good movies 
all, jump-started his stalled career by directing a remake of "Planet of the 
Apes" ($362 mil worldwide).

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's already 
> been done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought it was a 
> remake of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband had just 
> died. But either way, why not write original works? 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, 
> in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t 
> get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a 
> message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every 
> time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has 
> discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the 
> quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" 
> (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric 
> Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." 
> 
> What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the 
> black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel 
> black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax 
> accountant and a best-selling author. 
> 
> It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal 
> themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this 
> being America, often aren't very savory. 
> 
> When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain 
> anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. 
> 
> ~rave! 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter  wrote: 
> > 
> > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can 
> > say 
> > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote: 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ 
> > > 
> > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's 
> > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. 
> > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less 
> > > than 
> > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 
> > > million 
> > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The 
> > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, 
> > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The 
> > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, 
> > > putting 
> > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. 
> > > 
> > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything 
> > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their 
> > > underwear. 
> > > 
> > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." 
> > > 
> > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html 
> > > 
> > > ~rave! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Kelwyn]

Chris Rock likes to tell the story about how he got on Saturday Night Live.  
Loren Michaels was looking for a new "black guy" and Rock wasn't the first 
choice.  The first choice was a comedian named Warren Thomas (look him up on 
Youtube).  The consensus, and Rock concurs, is that Thomas was the funniest 
black man in America at the time and he was summoned to Michael's waiting room 
first.  Thing is, Michaels had this thing where he would make a hungry, needy, 
insecure comic wait SIX HOURS before he would see them at the end of which he 
would shrug "I guess you're funny," and dismiss you.  

Thomas got mad and left after two hours.  Rock waited the six hours and got the 
gig.

My point is Rock pays attention and doesn't waste his time decrying the way 
things are or worrying about  how they should be.  

Fact is, whether one likes it or not, it is easier to get something remade than 
to produce something new.  

The reason is people (especially people in Hollywood) are stupid.  I mean that 
literally.  I just finished reading about Jon Peters, Barbra Streisand's former 
head-dresser who green-lighted movies like Tim Burton's "Batman" and once ran 
Columbia Pictures.  

Peters was and is illiterate.  He cannot read.  Has never read a script (or 
book) in his life.  All he knows is what he has seen.  This is why his first 
big hit was a remake of "A Star is Born."

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times,
> in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t
> get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a
> message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every
> time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has
> > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the
> > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife"
> > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric
> > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon."
> >
> > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers
> > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel
> > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax
> > accountant and a best-selling author.
> >
> > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal
> > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this
> > being America, often aren't very savory.
> >
> > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain
> > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original.
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> > Baxter  wrote:
> > >
> > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
> > say
> > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get
> > in.
> > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less
> > than
> > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20
> > million
> > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting.
> > The
> > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an
> > audience,
> > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday,
> > putting
> > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> > > >
> > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > > > underwear.
> > > >
> > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> > > >
> > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> > > >
> > > > ~rave!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Mike Street]

Hummmthat's a really interesting POV. I think you have a good point here
also. I do feel that Chris Rock's work is void of the cooning that we see in
a Tylor Perry movie.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has
> discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the
> quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife"
> (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric
> Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon."
>
> What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers
> the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel
> black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax
> accountant and a best-selling author.
>
> It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal
> themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this
> being America, often aren't very savory.
>
> When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain
> anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original.
>
> ~rave!
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
> say
> > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> > >
> > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get
> in.
> > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less
> than
> > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20
> million
> > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting.
> The
> > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an
> audience,
> > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday,
> putting
> > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> > >
> > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > > underwear.
> > >
> > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> > >
> > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Keith Johnson]

I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's already been 
done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought it was a remake 
of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband had just died. But 
either way, why not write original works? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt 






Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, in 
too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t get 
made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a message to 
H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every time. Next 
thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. 


On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo.com > wrote: 








Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered 
something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black 
films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking man's 
"Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in 
the Afternoon." 

What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the 
black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black 
world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a 
best-selling author. 

It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal 
themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this 
being America, often aren't very savory. 

When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain 
anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter  wrote: 
> 
> I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say 
> that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ 
> > 
> > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's 
> > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. 
> > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than 
> > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 
> > million 
> > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The 
> > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, 
> > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The 
> > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, 
> > putting 
> > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. 
> > 
> > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything 
> > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their 
> > underwear. 
> > 
> > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." 
> > 
> > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html 
> > 
> > ~rave! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Keith Johnson]

But why not just write original black material? Surely we don't have to copy 
"white" films to tell universal stories? You don't have to write a "black" 
movie just because you're black. I know a lot of folks in this group disparage 
Tyler Perry's work, the "Why Did I Get Married?" films are an example. They 
have a lot of Perry's trademark slapstick, and some of what can be called 
"Black" humour, but they deal with larger, more universal themes that could be 
done by any cast, no matter the race. 
I have no problem with remakes within reason, but I don't see why blacks need 
to mine white-based themes in order to tell good stories, be they comedy or 
drama. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelwyn"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:05:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt 






Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered 
something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black 
films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking man's 
"Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in 
the Afternoon." 

What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the 
black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black 
world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a 
best-selling author. 

It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal 
themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this 
being America, often aren't very savory. 

When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain 
anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter  wrote: 
> 
> I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say 
> that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ 
> > 
> > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's 
> > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. 
> > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than 
> > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 
> > million 
> > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The 
> > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, 
> > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The 
> > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, 
> > putting 
> > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. 
> > 
> > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything 
> > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their 
> > underwear. 
> > 
> > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." 
> > 
> > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html 
> > 
> > ~rave! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Nine Thousand-plus best, worst movies of all time!

[Martin Baxter]

I am SHOCKED. Shocked and A-MAZED.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> And this 58 year-old man is unmarried and lives with his sister. Can you
> believe it?
>
> ~rave!
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > Reading that, my first thought is of the old Styx song "Too Much Time On
> My
> > Hands". Then, deep awe of the man for such an undertaking creeps in.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/movies/18bourland.html
> > >
> > > Mr. Bourland, a produce clerk in an Austin, Tex., grocery, has ranked
> the
> > > greatest films of the 20th century. Sure, the American Film Institute
> and
> > > endless others have generated Top 10 or 100 Greatest lists. But Mr.
> Bourland
> > > goes them — well, one better isn't even close.
> > >
> > > He has ranked the 20th century's 9,200 greatest movies, watching more
> than
> > > 7,000 of them in the process. (He plans to reach 10,000 from readers
> > > suggesting titles he has overlooked. The list is at
> > > http://themovielistonline.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Martin Baxter]

Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times,
in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t
get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a
message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every
time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has
> discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the
> quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife"
> (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric
> Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon."
>
> What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers
> the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel
> black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax
> accountant and a best-selling author.
>
> It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal
> themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this
> being America, often aren't very savory.
>
> When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain
> anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
> say
> > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> > >
> > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get
> in.
> > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less
> than
> > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20
> million
> > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting.
> The
> > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an
> audience,
> > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday,
> putting
> > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> > >
> > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > > underwear.
> > >
> > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> > >
> > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Kelwyn]

Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered 
something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black 
films is to remake white ones.  His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking 
man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe 
in the Afternoon."

What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the 
black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black 
world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a 
best-selling author. 

It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal 
themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this 
being America, often aren't very savory.

When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain 
anything.  It just is.  Just like it was in the white original.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say
> that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
> >
> > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in.
> > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than
> > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million
> > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The
> > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience,
> > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting
> > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
> >
> > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> > underwear.
> >
> > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
> >
> > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [scifinoir2] "Machete" hacks onto screen Labor Day

[Mike Street]

I'll have to see this. I really liked Grindhouse and I wish they would do
more. I loved Death Proof, the end was so awesome.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65297
>
> 20th Century Fox has set a September 3 release date for Robert Rodriguez
> and Ethan Maniquis' Machete, starring Danny Trejo, Jessica Alba, Robert De
> Niro, Michelle Rodriguez, Lindsay Lohan, Cheech Marin, Jeff Fahey, Don
> Johnson and Steven Seagal. Labor Day falls on Monday, Sept. 6, which gives
> the movie a four-day opening weekend.
>
> Focus Features is releasing Anton Corbijn's suspense thriller The American
> (view a new photo), starring George Clooney, a couple of days earlier on
> Wednesday, Sept. 1.
>
> Columbia Pictures also has the Tom Brady comedy Born to Be a Star, with
> Christina Ricci, scheduled for a release on Sept. 3.
>
> Machete is based on the "fake" trailer in Robert Rodriguez's 2007
> Grindhouse. The feature version of the trailer finds Machete (Trejo) a
> renegade former Mexican Federale, roaming the streets of Texas after a
> shakedown from drug lord Torrez (Seagal). Reluctantly, Machete takes an
> offer from spin doctor Benz (Fahey) to assassinate McLaughlin (De Niro) a
> corrupt Senator. Double crossed and on the run Machete braves the odds with
> the help of Luz (Michelle Rodriguez), a saucy taco slinger, Padre (Marin)
> his "holy" brother, and April (Lohan) a socialite with a penchant for guns.
> All while being tracked by Sartana (Alba), a sexy ICE agent with a special
> interest in the blade slinger.
>
>  
>



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[scifinoir2] Re: The Nine Thousand-plus best, worst movies of all time!

[Kelwyn]

And this 58 year-old man is unmarried and lives with his sister.  Can you 
believe it?

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> Reading that, my first thought is of the old Styx song "Too Much Time On My
> Hands". Then, deep awe of the man for such an undertaking creeps in.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/movies/18bourland.html
> >
> > Mr. Bourland, a produce clerk in an Austin, Tex., grocery, has ranked the
> > greatest films of the 20th century. Sure, the American Film Institute and
> > endless others have generated Top 10 or 100 Greatest lists. But Mr. Bourland
> > goes them — well, one better isn't even close.
> >
> > He has ranked the 20th century's 9,200 greatest movies, watching more than
> > 7,000 of them in the process. (He plans to reach 10,000 from readers
> > suggesting titles he has overlooked. The list is at
> > http://themovielistonline.com.
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [scifinoir2] "Machete" hacks onto screen Labor Day

[Martin Baxter]

If there's blood being spilled, I'm there.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65297
>
> 20th Century Fox has set a September 3 release date for Robert Rodriguez
> and Ethan Maniquis' Machete, starring Danny Trejo, Jessica Alba, Robert De
> Niro, Michelle Rodriguez, Lindsay Lohan, Cheech Marin, Jeff Fahey, Don
> Johnson and Steven Seagal. Labor Day falls on Monday, Sept. 6, which gives
> the movie a four-day opening weekend.
>
> Focus Features is releasing Anton Corbijn's suspense thriller The American
> (view a new photo), starring George Clooney, a couple of days earlier on
> Wednesday, Sept. 1.
>
> Columbia Pictures also has the Tom Brady comedy Born to Be a Star, with
> Christina Ricci, scheduled for a release on Sept. 3.
>
> Machete is based on the "fake" trailer in Robert Rodriguez's 2007
> Grindhouse. The feature version of the trailer finds Machete (Trejo) a
> renegade former Mexican Federale, roaming the streets of Texas after a
> shakedown from drug lord Torrez (Seagal). Reluctantly, Machete takes an
> offer from spin doctor Benz (Fahey) to assassinate McLaughlin (De Niro) a
> corrupt Senator. Double crossed and on the run Machete braves the odds with
> the help of Luz (Michelle Rodriguez), a saucy taco slinger, Padre (Marin)
> his "holy" brother, and April (Lohan) a socialite with a penchant for guns.
> All while being tracked by Sartana (Alba), a sexy ICE agent with a special
> interest in the blade slinger.
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] The Nine Thousand-plus best, worst movies of all time!

[Martin Baxter]

Reading that, my first thought is of the old Styx song "Too Much Time On My
Hands". Then, deep awe of the man for such an undertaking creeps in.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/movies/18bourland.html
>
> Mr. Bourland, a produce clerk in an Austin, Tex., grocery, has ranked the
> greatest films of the 20th century. Sure, the American Film Institute and
> endless others have generated Top 10 or 100 Greatest lists. But Mr. Bourland
> goes them — well, one better isn't even close.
>
> He has ranked the 20th century's 9,200 greatest movies, watching more than
> 7,000 of them in the process. (He plans to reach 10,000 from readers
> suggesting titles he has overlooked. The list is at
> http://themovielistonline.com.
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Justin Mohareb]

It was an English film. IIRC Allan Tudyk was in the cast.

Justin

On 2010-04-18, at 9:00 AM, Mike Street  wrote:


I didn't know this was a remake...who was in the original?


On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Baxter > wrote:


I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I  
can say that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a  
Funeral".



On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/

Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's  
reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to  
get in. The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but  
grossed less than $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross  
closer to the $20 million territory, rather than the $25-$30 million  
that many were predicting. The similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral,  
also struggled to lure an audience, even though Roger Ebert, calling  
it the "funniest comedy since The Hangover." The film may have  
grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting its three-day gross  
at a likely $17 million.


The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything  
spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their  
underwear.


Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."

http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html

~rave!





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Re: [scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Martin Baxter]

As rave said in his review, Peter Dinklage reprised his role. Matthew
Macfadyen played the lead, with Keeley Hawes as his love interest. Alan
Tudyk (Wash from "Firefly") played the fiance who gets the dose of acid just
before the funeral. No one else of immediate name recognition, but here's
the IMDb link.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795368/

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Mike Street  wrote:

>
>
> I didn't know this was a remake...who was in the original?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
>> say that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
>>>
>>> Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
>>> reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in.
>>> The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than
>>> $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million
>>> territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The
>>> similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience,
>>> even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
>>> Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting
>>> its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
>>>
>>> The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
>>> spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
>>> underwear.
>>>
>>> Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
>>>
>>> http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
>>>
>>> ~rave!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Mike Street]

I didn't know this was a remake...who was in the original?

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can
> say that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
>>
>> Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
>> reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in.
>> The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than
>> $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million
>> territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The
>> similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience,
>> even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
>> Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting
>> its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
>>
>> The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
>> spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
>> underwear.
>>
>> Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
>>
>> http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
>>
>  
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Martin Baxter]

I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say
that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral".

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
>
> Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in.
> The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than
> $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million
> territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The
> similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience,
> even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting
> its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
>
> The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> underwear.
>
> Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
>
> http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
>
> ~rave!
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Mike Street]

I loved Kick Ass! It was one of the best action movies I've seen in a long
time. i hope they get a part 2

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/
>
> Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's
> reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in.
> The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than
> $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million
> territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The
> similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience,
> even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The
> Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting
> its three-day gross at a likely $17 million.
>
> The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything
> spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their
> underwear.
>
> Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."
>
> http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html
>
> ~rave!
>
>  
>



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[scifinoir2] The Nine Thousand-plus best, worst movies of all time!

[Kelwyn]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/movies/18bourland.html

Mr. Bourland, a produce clerk in an Austin, Tex., grocery, has ranked the 
greatest films of the 20th century. Sure, the American Film Institute and 
endless others have generated Top 10 or 100 Greatest lists. But Mr. Bourland 
goes them — well, one better isn't even close.

He has ranked the 20th century's 9,200 greatest movies, watching more than 
7,000 of them in the process. (He plans to reach 10,000 from readers suggesting 
titles he has overlooked. The list is at http://themovielistonline.com.

[scifinoir2] "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt

[Kelwyn]

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/

Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's reinvention 
of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. The R-rated movie 
has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than $8 million Friday 
night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million territory, rather 
than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The similarly R-rated Death 
at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, even though Roger Ebert, 
calling it the "funniest comedy since The Hangover." The film may have grossed 
less than $6 million on Friday, putting its three-day gross at a likely $17 
million.

The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything spoofing 
(or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their underwear.

Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral."

http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html

~rave!

[scifinoir2] "Machete" hacks onto screen Labor Day

[Kelwyn]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65297

20th Century Fox has set a September 3 release date for Robert Rodriguez and 
Ethan Maniquis' Machete, starring Danny Trejo, Jessica Alba, Robert De Niro, 
Michelle Rodriguez, Lindsay Lohan, Cheech Marin, Jeff Fahey, Don Johnson and 
Steven Seagal. Labor Day falls on Monday, Sept. 6, which gives the movie a 
four-day opening weekend.

Focus Features is releasing Anton Corbijn's suspense thriller The American 
(view a new photo), starring George Clooney, a couple of days earlier on 
Wednesday, Sept. 1.

Columbia Pictures also has the Tom Brady comedy Born to Be a Star, with 
Christina Ricci, scheduled for a release on Sept. 3.

Machete is based on the "fake" trailer in Robert Rodriguez's 2007 Grindhouse. 
The feature version of the trailer finds Machete (Trejo) a renegade former 
Mexican Federale, roaming the streets of Texas after a shakedown from drug lord 
Torrez (Seagal). Reluctantly, Machete takes an offer from spin doctor Benz 
(Fahey) to assassinate McLaughlin (De Niro) a corrupt Senator. Double crossed 
and on the run Machete braves the odds with the help of Luz (Michelle 
Rodriguez), a saucy taco slinger, Padre (Marin) his "holy" brother, and April 
(Lohan) a socialite with a penchant for guns. All while being tracked by 
Sartana (Alba), a sexy ICE agent with a special interest in the blade slinger.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Japanese trailer for "Iron Man 2"

[Martin Baxter]

rave, I think of him as throwing things across the room in anger.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Every time I see Don Cheadle as War Machine, I think Terrence Howard must
> be eating his heart out.
>
> ~rave!
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > Here's the Japanese trailer, "with a few bits and bobs you haven't seen
> > before".
> >
> >
> http://www.sfcrowsnest.com/articles/news/2010/Japanese-trailer-for-Iron-Man-II-film-14770.php
> >
>
>  
>