Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video

[bruce harden]

people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best
example the ole down loe brothas.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
>  Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a
> lot of disappointed men out there now!
>
> As for Ricky Martin: file it in the "Worst Kept Secret" folder. I think
> Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there...
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
> 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual
> Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM
>
>
> Anna Paquin
> Jordan Strauss/WireImage
>
> Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's 
> announcementon
>  his personal blog that he's gay, "True
> Blood " star Anna 
> Paquin used
> an unusual mediumof 
> her own to announce that she is bisexual.
>
>
>
> Alongside celebrities such as Elton 
> John,
> Clay Aiken , and Wanda
> Sykes , Paquin declared
> her sexual 
> orientationin
>  a public service announcement for Cyndi
> Lauper 's Give a Damn
> Campaign , which promotes equality
> for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were
> shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST.
>
>
> What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that,
> unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign,
> the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to
> RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made
> the revelation.
>
>
>
> A second PSA features "Sex and the 
> City"
> actor Cynthia Nixon 
> (who came
> out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim
> Kardashian , and
> Sharon  and Kelly
> Osbourne .
>
> Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional
> "coming out" People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance 
> Bass-- and instead 
> controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his
> announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin
> is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So
> much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly
> afterthe
>  news broke of Paquin's statement.
>
>
>
> Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history
> when she won for best supporting actress for "The Piano" -- has been
> notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before
> discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically 
> linkedwith actor 
> Kieran
> Culkin . In August
> 2009, she and "True Blood" costar Stephen 
> Moyerannounced their 
> engagement.
>
>
>
> The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named
> after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the
> causeduring
>  her turn on the Donald
> Trump -judged show 
> "Celebrity
> Apprentice ."
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video

[bruce harden]

 live in seattle and that seems to be tghe cach all phrase now. Me i'm still
in the camp of you're just damn greedy with a side helping of boy could i
have some of that.. but of the 3 situations that i know of they've been
stable for more than 2years now. which is something to feel good  about

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Fascinating.
> I really wonder if poly relationships can truly ever be stable? As you say,
> there are those who enter into them initially simply for the thrill, for the
> excitement. And, once given the permission or chance to find NRE, some would
> just become junkies of the excitement of finding  new thrills all the time.
> Seems to me it'd make it hard to build the bedrock relationship of trust and
> true love --something not based on the physical, lust, new thrills--that are
> required for a decades-long relationship.
> I'm assuming here the goal is a lifetime partnership, which of course it
> may not be for everyone. and if so, better to acknowledge and realize it.
> Though a Christian with traditional views of marriage, I tell my friends all
> the time that there are two things no person should feel obligated to do:
> Get married, and have children.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrianne Brennan" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video
>
>
>
> I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I
> personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship
> out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama
> with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the "NRE" (new
> relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else.
>
> I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly
> relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the
> wrong reasons and really ought to either be called "swingers" or "casual
> daters".
>
>
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open
>> relationship implies that the partner is "sleeping around." Which is not
>> what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without
>> emotional attachments.
>>
>> I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one)
>> relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains
>> married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between
>> multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently.
>> Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica.
>>
>> Basically the person spends time with another person other than her
>> husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex.
>>
>> With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry
>> relationship or group marriage.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the "one person at a
>>> time/one person for life" school...
>>> Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start
>>> into sharing partners, having so-called "open" relationships, etc. But
>>> again, that's just not my thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>>  Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love
>>> more than one person at the same time.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson >> > wrote:
>>>


 I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases
 where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me
 and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who
 finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs 
 grow
 and must be met, that relationship to me is over.
 My views,  for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for
 anyone else's lifestyle...

 - Original Message -
 From: "Mr. Worf" 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video



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Re: [scifinoir2] New Boondocks Season 3 Clip: Wil.I.Am feat Thugnificent - "Dick Riding Obama"

[bruce harden]

hurrah for the cartoon but his daily strip made more waves and made more
sense than al the cartoons put togeather. Also basically think it's gonna
get too that point where the satire gets too the are they laughing with or
at ths?/

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> New Boondocks Season 3 Clip: Wil.I.Am  feat Thugnificent
> - "Dick Riding Obama"
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA
>
> 
>

RE: [scifinoir2] True Blood

[bruce harden]

doing the first season on nnet flix not doing anything for me  though i do love 
s me some of the cook drug dealin entrepunior . he's got the del on evry one . 
hello every body im back . anybody miss me.
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:01:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood


  



It really is an awesome show. This season has been stellar.




~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html



On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Charles  wrote:





I can so see that happening.  Looks like True Blood is getting added to my list 
of things to watch 

Sent from my iPhone




On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Martin Baxter  wrote:




  

rave, it is the Lil' Ole Souf you speak of. Strange to any and all north of the 
Mason-Dixon, and just another tricky day for the rest of us.


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:


  



"It's vampires like you that have been holding us back" ~ Russell Edington, 
Vampire King of Mississippi. I KNEW there were black vampires!

~rave!

And, while I'm at it, what kind of low-life white trash would finance their 
alcoholic, trailer-park subsistence by entering their shape-shifting dog-boy in 
vicious backwoods dogfights? 

~rave?




-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik








  

RE: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass

[bruce harden]

th little girl is playing the little vampire in let the right one in . another 
reason i want to seehis.
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:11:25 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass


  



Just saw Kick Ass. Freakin' awesome!



  

Re: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role

[bruce harden]

yeah but when it comes to being large and in charge . nobody does it lie pam
grier. remember law an order svu when she was part of the  federal porno
investigators? no one in my my memory has ever locked stablers heels like
her.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Grier is built *nothing* like Waller! They need somebody like the fat
> Michael Clarke Duncan!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:16:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role
>
>
>
> Hot and evil... now that's what I'm talkin' about!
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:39 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role
>
>
>  http://aikairi.notlong.com
>
> LOS ANGELES, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- U.S. actress Pam Grier has signed on to play
> evil Agent Amanda Waller on TV's "Smallville," sources told TVGuide.com.
>
> Grier, 60, was most recently a cast member on the Showtime series "The L
> Word."
>
> Her film credits include "Jackie Brown," "Escape from L.A.," "Foxy Brown,"
> "Fort Apache the Bronx" and "Something Wicked This Way Comes."
>
> TVGuide.com said the actress is expected to appear in multiple episodes of
> "Smallville," starting in January.
>
>
>
> --
> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn 
> more.
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role

[bruce harden]

i could see angela bassset my favorite your ass is done punk  ladies.. Not
black but kathy bates can get treacherous when she wantstoo

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Yeah she was good in that, indeed! Wonder why they couldn't find a sister
> closer in skin color to Waller, who's pretty dark? Lorraine Toussaint is a
> very good actress.
>
> Speaking of Waller, did you ever see that "Justice League United" ep where
> she and Batman of the future (the young man from "Batman Beyond") had a
> discussion? It takes place about 40 - 50 years in our future. Waller
> confesses to her role in trying to create the new Batman for that time. What
> she did (I won't spoil it for you if you haven't seen it) was mind boggling.
> And prior to that, I loved her complicity in the long running battle of
> parts of the government against the JL, and how she then joined the League
> when she realized they were less dangerous than her former ally, Luthor.
>
> Complicated woman.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "bruce harden" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:05:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role
>
>
>
> yeah but when it comes to being large and in charge . nobody does it lie
> pam grier. remember law an order svu when she was part of the  federal porno
> investigators? no one in my my memory has ever locked stablers heels like
> her.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Grier is built *nothing* like Waller! They need somebody like the fat
>> Michael Clarke Duncan!
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Martin Baxter" 
>> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:16:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role
>>
>>
>>
>> Hot and evil... now that's what I'm talkin' about!
>>
>> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:39 +
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands "Smallville" role
>>
>>
>>  http://aikairi.notlong.com
>>
>> LOS ANGELES, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- U.S. actress Pam Grier has signed on to play
>> evil Agent Amanda Waller on TV's "Smallville," sources told TVGuide.com.
>>
>> Grier, 60, was most recently a cast member on the Showtime series "The L
>> Word."
>>
>> Her film credits include "Jackie Brown," "Escape from L.A.," "Foxy Brown,"
>> "Fort Apache the Bronx" and "Something Wicked This Way Comes."
>>
>> TVGuide.com said the actress is expected to appear in multiple episodes of
>> "Smallville," starting in January.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn 
>> more.<http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009>
>>
>>
>   
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed

[bruce harden]

DONT BLAME THE NET WORK  IF YOU DONT  WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND
people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane
shows csi navy spin offs are winning  there time slots . Me ,I would like to
see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well
on  ater time

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:

>
>
>   and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again.
>
> Bosco
>
> --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tracey de Morsella 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM
>
>
>
>  This just in: 'Dollhouse' 
> axed
>
>
>
> This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV
> graveyard: *Dollhouse*.
>
> According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will
> not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the
> current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn
> off the remaining unaired 
> episodesbeginning
>  in December. Hey, it’s something.
>
> *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last
> season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it
> to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million.
>
> Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember
> that when you’re posting your eulogies below.
>
> *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. 
> com:
> “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked
> with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better
> pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m
> grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again.
> I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation
> thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll
> know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be
> done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your
> patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.”
>
>
>
> Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
>
> The Green Economy Post
>
> http://greeneconomy post.com
>
> tra...@greeneconomy post.com
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed

[bruce harden]

BUT OF THE Major networks they seem too be the only ones willing to at least
try something out of the box. me I' gotta give props to fx and  marginally
to tnt for pulling some of the stops out.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:

>
>
>   Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an
> dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other
> hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your
> show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due.
>
> In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is
> totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons
> play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the
> appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their
> programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be
> exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently
> use.  Worst network in the history of television ever.
>
> Bosco
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden * wrote:
>
>
> From: bruce harden 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM
>
>
>
> DONT BLAME THE NET WORK  IF YOU DONT  WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS
> .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those
> plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning  there time slots . Me ,I
> would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre
> stuff does well on  ater time
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco  com<http://mc/compose?to=ironpi...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them
>> again.
>>
>> Bosco
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella > aladvantage. com<http://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Tracey de Morsella > com<http://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com>
>> >
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed
>>
>> To: scifino...@yahoogro 
>> ups.com<http://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>  This just in: 'Dollhouse' 
>> axed<http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/>
>>
>>
>>
>> This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV
>> graveyard: *Dollhouse*.
>>
>> According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will
>> not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the
>> current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn
>> off the remaining unaired 
>> episodes<http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/>beginning
>>  in December. Hey, it’s something.
>>
>> *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last
>> season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it
>> to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million.
>>
>> Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember
>> that when you’re posting your eulogies below.
>>
>> *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. 
>> com<http://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440>:
>> “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked
>> with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better
>> pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m
>> grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again.
>> I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation
>> thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll
>> know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be
>> done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your
>> patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.”
>>
>>
>>
>> Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
>>
>> The Green Economy Post
>>
>> http://greeneconomy post.com
>>
>> tra...@greeneconomy post.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 6 Things The New "Prisoner" Changed For The Worse

[bruce harden]

i agree not  enough of the number 2 versus number six  but i am enjoyying v
tho  any one watchin the good wife . nice non holly wood veiw of  the
cucockled wife. also the detective  lawyer  indian I think feirce and  a
looker . nicccee. ALSO THE SISTAH ON MERCY REALLYY GOOD  FOR ALL OF US WHHO
are tired ofgraces fever dream good no fake histionics etc

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I agree. I think the pacing is slow because they don't have much dialog or
> plot. There isn't the visual diversity of the original show so everything is
> stagnant. Which may be deliberate by the director. You become frustrated
> with the show as #6 is frustrated with his situation. That would be
> interesting if it was done that way but I doubt it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  Marian:
>>
>> You have a point about the switch from spy to corporate analyst, but I
>> still wish they wanted something more from him than simply f...@#ing with his
>> head.  I have the same problem with the episodes that you do, but I also
>> think there is a pacing problem
>>   --
>>
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> From: md_moor...@yahoo.com
>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:15:35 +
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: 6 Things The New "Prisoner" Changed For The
>> Worse
>>
>>
>>
>> I am enjoying it, but it is definitely different.
>>
>> I would have complained if it were the same; there was no need to remake
>> the same series as it was. There original series was never special effects
>> driven and it was always a psycological show. In fact, the main problem I am
>> having is that these episodes are as puzzling as the final episode of the
>> original was.
>>
>> they do pick up on some loose ends that the original eliminated. In the
>> original, #6 insists that he is not a number, but he never states his name.
>> In this one, #6 explicitly admits that he doesn't remember his name.
>>
>> In this one, even the kids know that there is no #1 and that was the
>> kicker in the original series.
>>
>> The change to a corporate spy was probably necessary since that is where
>> the power lies these days anyway.
>>
>> It has problems, but I will enjoy digging out all of the symbols in the
>> following days. It's possible that they will screw the entire thing up, but
>> I am satisfied that there was some forethought in the show design.
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Briefly…. He is not a spy but a corporate analyst , the setting does
>> not seem idyllic, the lead lacks intensity, but he did grow on me, extremely
>> slow pace, almost pointless plot contortions, they took a lot of spy and
>> scifi elements out, they took the humor out
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I turned it on late Sunday. I officially stopped watching after an hour,
>> but I needed to work on the blog and do did Chris. He got a post on urban
>> farming done and some programming and I got four other peoples posts up and
>> looked over two contracts. We have been using it as background noise for
>> blogging. If I stop working and try to really watch it, I fall asleep and
>> wake up when the commercial comes on. Snoozefest is right. How to destroy an
>> iconic show in six grueling hours.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Keith Johnson
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:39 AM
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 6 Things The New "Prisoner" Changed For The
>> Worse
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I had a sense of this, for some reason. I got home from the gym,
>> realized it was on, turned over, and after ten minutes gave up. i was
>> thinking (hoping) that it wasn't moving me because I came into it late, but
>> I guess not.
>> >
>> > where do you think it went wrong? Is this more of modern day people who
>> don't get the idea of mystery and suspense, or are they actually trying to
>> craft such, and simply failing miserably?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Tracey de Morsella" 
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., "Cinque3000" > ...>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:56:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> > Subject: [scifinoir2] 6 Things The New "Prisoner" Changed For The Worse
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have fallen asleep six times watching this mess
>> >
>> > 
>> http://io9.com/5405187/6-things-the-new-prisoner-changed-for-the-worse
>> >
>> > The Prisoner  used its premise of a
>> spy trapped in an idyllic, but oppressive, village to ask questions about
>> individuality in a conformist, overly processed society. Here are six ways
>> last night's remake throws away that rich premise. Spoilers below...
>> >
>> > So now that the first two hours of AMC's remake of The Priso

Re: [scifinoir2] When the Funk is not Enough

[bruce harden]

the crappy part is  even george himself isnt as wealthy as he should be .By
what Ive heard. Jeezee who has sampled these guys???/

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Pedro Bell, the artist of the "Funk and Nothing-But-The-Funk" is broke but
> not broken.
>
>
> http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/11/15/ailing-poverty-stricken-funkadelic-artist-pedro-bell-is-looking-to-sell-his-originals/
>
> 
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade

[bruce harden]

of those  dune would be good .But for me  big mini series in 6 part arcs are
just perfect.  writers on tv when confronted with  limits seem always to do
better. ie bg  the stepehn ing minis  dark tower anyone?///

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, considering the off-kilter quality of the last two TZ reboots, I
> want all hands *off* it. As for "Buck Rogers", don't know if you (or anyone
> else) caught the comic reboot of it. It was pretty cool, and might lend
> itself well to a small-screen restart. (Not that I'm backing such, mind you.
> Just tossing ideas.) Siffy canNOT be allowed near "The Middleman".
>
> And "Bebop" lives in animation ONLY, done by someone NOT American. (Not
> even ME.)
>
> Martin (Bebop Fan #2)
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:00:04 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
>
>
>
> Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
>
>- By Scott Thill  [image:
>Email Author] 
>- December 1, 2009  |
>- 4:53 pm  |
>- Categories: sci-fi ,
>television 
>-
>
> [image: sci-fi-reboot-combo]
> The operating systems of *Star Trek*, *The Prisoner*, *Astro Boy* and *V*have 
> all been rebooted for Generation Xbox this year, with varying degrees
> of success.
> What science fiction series is next for a 21st-century upgrade? Try
> stuffing these 10 television shows in your replicators. With the right
> approaches, these series – some old, some new – could all be turned into TV
> that is both thought-provoking and entertaining.
> Have your own ideas for sci-fi reboots that really ought to happen? Let us
> know in the comments below.
>
>
> Buck RogersThis show is perhaps an obvious choice, given the acclaimed
> reboot of *Battlestar Galactica*, the prime-time compatriot of *Buck
> Rogers in the 25th Century*. The two original ’70s television shows
> represented underwhelming attempts at capitalizing on the success of *Star
> Wars* (although the *Buck Rogers
> * lineage extends back to the ’40s and influenced auteurs like George
> Lucas).
> A cerebral, thorough reimagining of Buck Rogers — building on the intrepid
> character introduced in Amazing Stories and developed in the first sci-fi
> radio show  – could reap
> futuristic fruit. (We’re hoping Frank Miller can bring *Buck Rogers* to
> movie 
> screenssuccessfully,
>  but after seeing what he did to
> *The Spirit *,
> that’s perhaps misguided.)
> The Twilight ZoneNo show on television resembles Rod Serling’s episodic
> sci-fi series, which debuted in 1959 and wrapped five incredibly influential
> seasons in 1964. Even the various series that followed, which shared *The
> Twilight 
> Zone
> *’s name, haven’t been able to build on the original’s ambition or
> success. (Jason Alexander as 
> Death
> ?)
> Maybe there’s no point polluting that good name any more, but it’s past
> time for a series like The Twilight Zone that marries psy-fi with sci-fi
> without blinking.
>
> The MiddlemanThis hilarious, unfairly canceled sci-fi brain-fry
> masquerading as a teen soap doesn’t actually need a reboot. Minus some
> unnecessarily cute banter and quirkiness, the short-lived 2008 series was
> one of the funniest shows on television, sci-fi or not.
> The ABC Family series starred *Art School Confidential*’s Matt Keeslar,
> who was a brilliant mash of *Twin Peaks*‘ Agent Cooper and *The X-Files*‘
> Fox Mulder. And executive producer Javier 
> Grillo-Marxuachinjected 
> more inside sci-fi and comics info into a single episode of The
> Middleman than 
> most series do in a season. Syfy or someone needs to resuscitate this
> life-form, by any means necessary.
> HeroesIt might seem like cheating to insert a sci-fi show that is
> currently in existence, but there are more than enough arguments to support
> the contention that *Heroes *, in its current
> form, is dead on arrival.
> Rather than exploring the boundless possibilities of an ability-infested
> superhumanity, NBC’s show has offered full-frontal assaults on reason and
> patience, often barely disgu

Re: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade

[bruce harden]

forget all of this wheres my johnny quest live reboot movie

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> I've heard rumors on the whisper-stream that it's already in development,
> as an animated feature, so I'm told.
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: bhsleepystude...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:35:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
>
>
>  of those  dune would be good .But for me  big mini series in 6 part arcs
> are just perfect.  writers on tv when confronted with  limits seem always to
> do better. ie bg  the stepehn ing minis  dark tower anyone?///
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>  Mr Worf, considering the off-kilter quality of the last two TZ reboots, I
> want all hands *off* it. As for "Buck Rogers", don't know if you (or anyone
> else) caught the comic reboot of it. It was pretty cool, and might lend
> itself well to a small-screen restart. (Not that I'm backing such, mind you.
> Just tossing ideas.) Siffy canNOT be allowed near "The Middleman".
>
> And "Bebop" lives in animation ONLY, done by someone NOT American. (Not
> even ME.)
>
> Martin (Bebop Fan #2)
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:00:04 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
>
>
>
> Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
>
>- By Scott Thill  [image:
>Email Author] 
>- December 1, 2009  |
>- 4:53 pm  |
>- Categories: sci-fi ,
>television 
>-
>
> [image: sci-fi-reboot-combo]
> The operating systems of *Star Trek*, *The Prisoner*, *Astro Boy* and *V*have 
> all been rebooted for Generation Xbox this year, with varying degrees
> of success.
> What science fiction series is next for a 21st-century upgrade? Try
> stuffing these 10 television shows in your replicators. With the right
> approaches, these series – some old, some new – could all be turned into TV
> that is both thought-provoking and entertaining.
> Have your own ideas for sci-fi reboots that really ought to happen? Let us
> know in the comments below.
>
>
> Buck RogersThis show is perhaps an obvious choice, given the acclaimed
> reboot of *Battlestar Galactica*, the prime-time compatriot of *Buck
> Rogers in the 25th Century*. The two original ’70s television shows
> represented underwhelming attempts at capitalizing on the success of *Star
> Wars* (although the *Buck Rogers
> * lineage extends back to the ’40s and influenced auteurs like George
> Lucas).
> A cerebral, thorough reimagining of Buck Rogers — building on the intrepid
> character introduced in Amazing Stories and developed in the first sci-fi
> radio show  – could reap
> futuristic fruit. (We’re hoping Frank Miller can bring *Buck Rogers* to
> movie 
> screenssuccessfully,
>  but after seeing what he did to
> *The Spirit *,
> that’s perhaps misguided.)
> The Twilight ZoneNo show on television resembles Rod Serling’s episodic
> sci-fi series, which debuted in 1959 and wrapped five incredibly influential
> seasons in 1964. Even the various series that followed, which shared *The
> Twilight 
> Zone
> *’s name, haven’t been able to build on the original’s ambition or
> success. (Jason Alexander as 
> Death
> ?)
> Maybe there’s no point polluting that good name any more, but it’s past
> time for a series like The Twilight Zone that marries psy-fi with sci-fi
> without blinking.
>
> The MiddlemanThis hilarious, unfairly canceled sci-fi brain-fry
> masquerading as a teen soap doesn’t actually need a reboot. Minus some
> unnecessarily cute banter and quirkiness, the short-lived 2008 series was
> one of the funniest shows on television, sci-fi or not.
> The ABC Family series starred *Art School Confidential*’s Matt Keeslar,
> who was a brilliant mash of *Twin Peaks*‘ Agent Cooper and *The X-Files*‘
> Fox Mulder. And executive producer Javier 
> Grillo-Marxuachinjected 
> more inside sci-fi an

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Robert Downey Jr. in Talks to be Lestat

[bruce harden]

nope they used a body double for her. alas

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  I do not think so.  Someone pointed out that the story is more about
> Lestat.  Unfortunately I did not read Queen of the Damned.  Also, I believe
> filming was complete before she died, but don’t quote me.
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Justin Mohareb
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 9:49 AM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Robert Downey Jr. in Talks to be Lestat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Did the actress' death maybe have anything to do with that?
>
>
>
> Justin
>
> On 2009-12-07, at 12:18 PM, "Tracey de Morsella" <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know it got canned by the critics, but I enjoyed it too.  I agree, about
> the title.  The Queen was almost a cameo
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Augustus Augustus
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 7:24 AM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Robert Downey Jr. in Talks to be Lestat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Rave,
>
> i agree with Townsend's Lestat.  he was kind of kool.but i think the
> movie should never had been named "Queen of the Damned."  it should have
> been 'Lestat the Vampire' just as the book was titled.  to only show Akasha
> in the last 30 minutes of the movie was a total disappointment.
>
> --- On *Mon, 12/7/09, Kelwyn * wrote:
>
>
> From: Kelwyn 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Robert Downey Jr. in Talks to be Lestat
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 10:12 AM
>
>
>
> I liked "Interview with the Vampire" despite pipsqueak Cruise as Lestat
> (Ann Rice envisioned a young Rutger Hauer). I rather enjoyed Stuart
> Townsend's rock star take in "Queen of the Damned" (a damned good movie to
> watch with the sound off). Anyhoo, I am rather geeked by the prospect of the
> worldly Downey playing the otherworldly Lestat.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifino...@yahoogro
> ups.com, "Tracey de
> Morsella"  wrote:
> >
> > We've been scrambling all week to confirm the following report,
> especially
> > since it came from a very reliable source and is insanely logical
> > considering the popularity of vampires these days. I guess something good
> > has come from the success of Twilight as Bloody Disgusting has learned
> > exclusively that Universal Pictures is looking to restart Anne Rice's The
> > Vampire Chronicles  ,
> which
> > tells the tale of the vampire Lestat Du Lioncort (through his narration),
> a
> > nobleman-turned- vampire in the late 18th century. No word yet on how
> they
> > plan on unrolling this franchise, but we did find out who they are
> talking
> > with to replace Tom Cruise and Stuart Townsend. Read on for the skinny.
> >
> > We have confirmed this afternoon that ROBERT DOWNEY JR. is in close talks
> to
> > play the vampire Lestat in Universal Pictures' The Vampire Chronicles, a
> > newly rebooted franchise based on Anne Rice's popular novels.
> >
> > Lestat appears as a major character in both motion picture adaptations of
> > The Vampire Chronicles novels. In Neil Jordan's 1994 film adaptation of
> > Interview with the Vampire, he is portrayed by Tom Cruise. In the 2002
> film
> > adaptation of Queen of the Damned, he is played by Stuart Townsend.
> >
> > The Vampire Chronicles is a series of novels by Anne Rice that revolves
> > around the fictional character Lestat de Lioncourt, a French nobleman
> made
> > into a vampire in the 18th century.
> >
> > http://www.bloody- disgusting. com/news/ 17082
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Moves Ahead

[bruce harden]

I loved the riddick movies .my criteria for b-movie great is when it comes
on tnt or tbs i can be half asleep and I stay to finish it. Me  I think they
should incorporate the escape from butcher bay prison stuff

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Diesel spills the beans on Facebook.
>
> by Orlando Parfitt , IGN UK
>
>
>
> *UK, December 3, 2009* - It seems the long-rumoured *Chronicles of Riddick
> * sequel is finally moving ahead.
>
> Vin Diesel  left an update
> on his *Facebook 
> page*effectively
>  announcing that pre-production work is underway on the sci-fi
> sequel.
>
> The gravel-voiced action star wrote: "The *Riddick* team is in New Zealand
> location scouting already... that's exciting."
>
> It's not much, but still the first solid acknowledgement that the project
> is going ahead. The last we heard, Diesel and director David 
> Twohywere still just
> *sketching out ideas for the 
> film*,
> which should be closer in spirit (and budget) to *Pitch 
> Black
> *, rather than the vastly more expensive *Riddick*.
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Walt Disney -- prince or toad?

[bruce harden]

walt was a whiteman in that period a sheltered  white man  lets  move on.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Disney was a racist period. Let's move on.
>
>   On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>>
>> latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-disneyrace22-2009nov22,0,978597.story
>>
>> latimes.com
>>
>> ESSAY
>>
>> Walt Disney -- prince or toad?
>>
>> The studio pioneer's detractors insist that he was racist and mean. A
>> deeper look shows that the truth about the man is far more complicated.
>>
>> By Neal Gabler
>>
>> November 22, 2009
>>
>>
>> Even before it opens later this week, Disney's new animated feature, "The
>> Princess and the Frog," is already considered something of a cultural and
>> animation landmark. After centering cartoons on a Middle Easterner
>> ("Aladdin"), a Native American (" Pocahontas"), an Asian ("Mulan"), and a
>> Hawaiian ("Lilo & Stitch"), Disney animation has entered the post-racial
>> era. The new film features a black protagonist alongside the green one.
>>
>> It has been a long time coming, but it is an event that, if you believe
>> Disney detractors, would have old Walt spinning in his grave (or his
>> cryogenic chamber).
>>
>> That's because there is a long-standing belief among those detractors that
>> Walt Disney was anything but the amiable, avuncular, kind-hearted figure he
>> appeared to be on his television program and in his promotions. The real
>> Disney, so this version goes, was a rabid reactionary who was intemperate,
>> crabbed and mean -- racially and ethnically insensitive at best, a racist
>> and anti-Semite at worst. Under his supervision, the Disney studio was
>> inhospitable to minorities, few of whomwere said to have workedthere and
>> they were virtually verboten on the screen, except to be ridiculed. Disney's
>> was a white, Protestant, middle-class studio and fantasy. Minorities need
>> not apply.
>>
>> How much of this portrait was the product of a smear campaign by Walt's
>> enemies and how much a product of Walt's own unenlightened attitudes is
>> difficult to determine. What one can say is that the truth about Walt Disney
>> seems much more complicated and nuanced than either his enemies or
>> supporters would have you believe.
>>
>> Labor fight
>>
>> Disney came by those enemies honestly when his animators staged a strike
>> in 1941 complaining of paternalism and low wages and Walt responded by
>> hustling the supposed union ringleaders off the lot and firing other union
>> members to quash their organizing. Even after the four-month-long strike was
>> settled -- under duress by the federal government -- the wounds did not
>> heal. Disney would feel betrayed for the rest of his life by what he saw as
>> ungrateful employees. The aggrieved employees got their own measure of
>> revenge by portraying Walt thereafter in the least flattering light. Most of
>> what we hear about Disney as a racist or anti-Semite was circulated by
>> animators who had struck in 1941. I know, because several of them made the
>> same charges to me when I was working on my biography of Disney.
>>
>> Unquestionably, especially after the strike, Disney was a political
>> conservative by way of anti-communism. He was certain that the strike was
>> instigated by communist agents in the Screen Cartoonists Guild who were
>> determined to sully the Disney brand -- this after Disney had been extolled
>> by the left for years for his collaborative enterprise and exemplary working
>> conditions.
>>
>> Though Walt was something of a political naïf -- he had no interest in
>> politics before the strike and little after it -- he was an easy recruit for
>> the most reactionary elements in Hollywood. They enlisted him to join an
>> organization called the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of
>> American Ideals that was really dedicated less to preserving American ideals
>> than to ridding the film industry of leftists. This was Walt's war too.
>> Still, the organization was so toxic to much of Hollywood -- many of its
>> members were known anti-Semites -- that even such staunch anti-communists as
>> Louis B. Mayer and Jack Warner declined to join.
>>
>> And yet even if Walt were guilty by association -- and he was -- it would
>> be unfair to label him an anti-Semite himself. There is no evidence
>> whatsoever in the extensive Disney Archives of any anti-Semitic remarks or
>> actions by Walt -- only a few casual slurs by his brother Roy. Moreover, Joe
>> Grant, the one-time head of the Disney Model Department and an esteemed
>> story man, was Jewish, as was Harry Tytle, a longtime production executive,
>> and the head of the Disney merchandise arm was a Jewish entrepreneur named
>> Herman "Kay" Kamen, with whom Walt was especially close. Though the studio,
>> as one of the only ones in Hollywood not operated by Jews, had the
>> reputation of being less than minor- ity friendly, prompting Tytle to
>> confess to Walt that he was half-Jewish. Tytle

Re: [scifinoir2] Daybreakers

[bruce harden]

Yeah I've been waitn for this! screw the nice pretty vamps bring the amoral
hungry bad boys.  tho I  have been getting iinto vampire dairies.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Daybreakers:  Stars Ethan Hawke, Willem Dafoe, and Sam Neill
>
> In the year 2019, a plague has transformed most every human into vampires.
> Faced with a dwindling blood supply, the fractured dominant race plots their
> survival; meanwhile, a researcher works with a covert band of vamps on a way
> to save humankind. |
>
>
>
> Its not a redo or a sequel.  Sound pretty good.
>
>
>
> Found this on IMDB about it
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433362/
>
> attended the World Premiere of "Daybreakers" at the 2009 Toronto
> International Film Festival. Like many genre films being screened here, it's
> another fascinating hybrid -- let's call this one vampire sci-fi action
> adventure.
>
> This Australian horror film (is it something in the water?) was written and
> directed by brothers Michael and Peter Spierig, the very same filmmakers who
> closed down the legendary Uptown Theatre in Toronto with "Undead" in 2003.
> That made this a homecoming of sorts. In fact, it turns out they'd been
> working on "Daybreakers" since that very day.
>
> It's 2019, and there's been a role reversal -- the world is populated
> primarily by vampires. Humans are now a hunted minority and an essential
> food source -- think "Alien" meets "Soylent Green." Charles Bromley (Sam
> Neill) is the head of a mega-corporation which reaps hefty profits off the
> "arrangement." Ethan Hawke plays Edward, chief blood researcher. Later,
> we'll meet outlaw Elvis (Willem Dafoe). His role here becomes more pivotal
> as the story progresses but I'll leave it at that.
>
> All are up to the task but, despite the presence of veterans Neill, Hawke,
> and Dafoe, "Daybreakers" is still story-driven and would be less effective
> if not for an ingenious plot filled with unexpected turns and nonstop action
> that had me on the edge of my seat, literally. The script is laden with
> unpredictable twists and shocking reveals that will surprise viewers.
> Horrific mutant creatures appear out of nowhere with perfect timing.
>
> The brothers Spierig take a thorough hands-on approach, involving
> themselves in many of the technical aspects along with writing and
> directing. Ben Nott's sweeping cinematography and crisp editing by Matt
> Villa helps fulfill their vision of a dark world in which the protagonists
> are often difficult to identify.
>
> Groundbreaking visual and special effects often elicited cheers from the
> audience here. I was wide-eyed from start to finish witnessing some of the
> most jawdropping stunts and shocking "kills" I've seen in a genre film. The
> color palette is essential to the story as, of course, the undead can only
> come out at night. Since most shots are necessarily interiors or in
> darkness, pushing the blue reflects the bleak lighting conditions under
> which the population lives, as well as the washed-out appearance of what (we
> imagine) vampires look like. As in most genre movies, sound is as essential
> to the story as are characters, and composer Christopher Gordon's masterful
> score matches up with the brilliant work of the effects team to punctuate
> the many intense action sequences.
>
> Michael and Peter Spierig attended the screening along with Willem Dafoe
> and Sam Neill. The Q&A ran well into the early morning hours.
>
> (NOTE: "Daybreakers" was the runner-up for the Midnight Madness Cadillac
> People's Choice Award)
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2009 4:43 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Daybreakers
>
>
>
>
>
> If you haven't seen the ad yet. It is about a world most of the human race
> has turned into vampires. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809912192/info
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Re: [scifinoir2] Is Starfleet a military or scientific organization

[bruce harden]

me I acquaint them with the Spanish explorers , You have a mix of
everything  missionaries, soldiers, camp followers etc, if you had to fight
you fought  if there was gold you sent the missionaries to peacefully
convert and get it .If not then come the soldiers...On the sgu finale I
especially like the brothers portrayal  when he goes to confront the Asian
gal. And the fear, and relief on her face . when she walks away even in
space we threaten  just by being in the proximity.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I would say going to battle is dire circumstances. I think that they wrote
> it out of the script because it changed the look of the ship too much. It
> also slowed down the pacing of the show.
>
> I think that they added families to the mix to add subplots to the show. It
> did produce a few episodes.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  They only separated the saucer section under dire circumstances. In
>> ninety-nine percent of all battles, the ship was intact, and the wives and
>> children of those officers were in mortal danger. When the Borg attacked
>> Earth, Riker ordered Wesley to fly into the Cube at warp speed. He didn't
>> separate the saucer or give the "Abandon ship!" order. Indeed in the first
>> meeting with the Borg, eighteen members of the crew were killed. I always
>> wondered if any were children. When they went to meet the Romulans for the
>> first time, Picard was rightfully afraid they'd be going into battle (as
>> Kirk did decades before). He didn't separate the ship.   In two time-travel
>> related shows--the one where Picard met his alternate future self, and the
>> one where the ship was stuck in a temporal loop, destroyed over and over--no
>> saucer separation. Ship destroyed, all hands lost, kids included. When the
>> Starship Yamoto was encountered, it blew up due to a alien computer program
>> rewriting its systems. All hands lost, no survivors.
>>
>>
>>
>> To be consistent with history, the children and non-service spouses of a
>> starship would at best be stationed at a base, or back on some kind of
>> support ships during battle. But putting them on starships that are then
>> purposefully sent into battles, full-fledged wars, and to investigate all
>> kinds of danger? Like I said, the single most illogical plot device in all
>> of Trek history.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:01:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>> Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is Starfleet a military or scientific
>> organization
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, they could separate the saucer section remember? That was only used
>> a couple of times though. If you are going toe to toe with a Romulan ship I
>> would want my wife and kids away from the area.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Keith Johnson > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Right, but the key word is "support". Other than some people who might
>>> take food or supplies to the battlefield, those people were in the rear.
>>> The camp followers/workers is an old concept, good point. But putting
>>> families on the starships themselves is akin to having those support
>>> personnel riding in the chariots, working on the catapults, and standing
>>> side-by-side with the spear bearers. There's nowhere to *go* when you're on
>>> a starship being attacked by the Borg.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:52:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>>> Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is Starfleet a military or scientific
>>> organization
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  You know I was thinking about this, and realized that the Romans
>>> brought their families along with them on battles. They were part of the
>>> support system that prepared food and took care of the animals.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Keith Johnson <
>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>


  The families on starships was the single worst idea in Trek history.
 It really doesn't speak to whether Starfleet is military though. The
 Enterprise and otehr starshps were sent to face everything from the Borg to
 the return of the Romulans. They were always being put at the forefront of
 battle, and to defend the Federation against dangers. That's a military
 outfit in my mind. no matter the idea of families on board ships.


 - Original Message -
 From: "George Arterberry" 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:25:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is Starfleet a military or scientific
 organization



  How many warships have famalies as its crew? I know as the Dominion
 War intensified that practice was abandoned .

 I think as Starfleet moved outward the "harshness"

Re: [scifinoir2] The SUPER HOT Iron Man 2 Trailer

[bruce harden]

ijst looked in awe as i drooled for 5 mins

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Mike Street  wrote:

>
>
> Here is the link to the trailer http://bit.ly/5tE05F
>
> This trailer is really awesome. This movie is gonna break the box
> office wide open in May. And we have a Black super hero in War
> Machine. Hopefully they will let Don have his own film.
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Ali Larter To Star in UFO Reboot Movie

[bruce harden]

i get really upset come late sat  fri looking for something genre and on amc
it always the same movies. and there has to be some ole hammer horror
movies  50's radiation thrillers . I  spent a lot of my youth in Texas on
sat they'd  start with a tom mix  roy rogers  (jesus those horses  were
smart back then!!) then a weimiller Tarzan last a horror flick. on that day
all chores were done and done right brite and early.  Even now it s late
nite you'd expect some adult sitcom drama  but nothings on but infomercials.
lately real early they've been puttin the early law and orders on. Man they
were good and seemed to be  more hard hitting  miss ben stone  and paul
robbineete.  the  pain the pain . in doctor smith's whine.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Allow me to second you there, Keith.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:42:50 +
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali Larter To Star in UFO Reboot Movie
>
>
>
> Yep, and I've said many times, I'm not sure where all the classic scifi
> shows and movies have gone. some, such as "Forbidden Planet" and "Planet of
> the Apes", end up on TCM and AMC. Many of the classics, like the Christopher
> Lee/Peter Cushing vampire flicks, are held for Halloween and other holiday
> marathons. But there's a huge, huge number of good black and white and color
> scifi/horror flicks and series that I just don't see anywhere on
> television.  I'd honestly enjoy watching "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
> or the first season of "Lost in Space" (when it was more intelligent) than
> the SyFy Originals.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rogue" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:34:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali Larter To Star in UFO Reboot Movie
>
>
>
> *I can not say that I remember shows like that. However when the sci-fi
> network was about to air I was so excited. I remember the very first show
> that aired was Star Wars. I was thinking after that shows like Lost in
> Space, Godzilla** and such would air. I think honestly the station has
> lost its way. They are so interested in putting out TV movies that they are
> cutting back on the story and in some cases the effects as well.*
> *--Lavender*
>
> *If all truths were knowable, then all truths are in fact known.*
>
>  *From:* Keith Johnson 
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2009 12:12 AM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Ali Larter To Star in UFO Reboot Movie
>
>
>
> TV was in many ways much better back then. For one thing,  there were fewer
> stations, meaning old stuff wasn't as diffuse as it is now. I so tire of
> trying to figure out who owns old eps of Star Trek's various series, B5,
> etc. Back then, there were just a handful of stations that'd have to show
> all the reruns. Of course, you were a slave to when and where those shows
> were rebroadcast, but I can't remember ever having to search for Star Trek,
> Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc.--they were *always* on those
> dependable channels.
>
> Most of the horror, scifi, and suspense I watched for decades was actually
> broadcast on the local ABC, CBS, and NBC affiliates. ABC used to show movies
> at 3 pm CST every weekday, right after the soaps, in the ABC Afternoon
> Movie. There'd be a theme each week, such as a Elvis week, a scifi week,
> etc. I saw movies such as "When Worlds Collide", "War of the Gargoyles",
> "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster", and "The Angry Red Planet" there. I used to
> wait so eagerly for when the Afternoon Movie cycled back around to scifi
> week! CBS used to have a program called "Late Night" on Friday nights at
> 11:30 CST. They'd show movies like "The Manitou", "Demon Seed", "Colossus:
> The Forbin Project", "Fall of the House of Usher", etc.  NBC used to air
> horror/scifi movies at midnight on Saturdays, followed by THriller at 2 am.
>
>
> The local independent station aired scifi movies on Sundays at noon. That's
> where I saw "Day of the Triffids", all those "I Was a Teenaged..." movies,
> and even a crazy old Western about a vampire gunslinger who's killed by a
> man of God using a bullet with a cross inscribed in it!
>
> Those were the days. I actually got more frequent and diverse options to
> watch scifi/horror/suspense back in the pre-cable days.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:16:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali Larter To Star in UFO Reboot Movie
>
>
>  That doesn't ring a bell. Tv was a little different back then I think.
> Some stations ran series on their own, especially independent stations.
>
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Inglourious Basterds

[bruce harden]

me I like pitts comic acting hes so good  as the gym worker in burn after...

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Be that as it may, I would much rather have seen a movie about the exploits
> of the Basterds and by that I mean I would have rather have seen their
> on-going exploits than being "told" about them (please give me more of Sgt.
> Stiglitz and "The Bear Jew"). The "Shosanna's Revenge" subplot bogs down the
> movie and why has Brad Pitt, the nominal star, been given so little to do?
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Daryle
> Lockhart  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have read and heard many a negative review of QT's films, and each
> > time I have to ask "you DO know where this guy is coming from,
> > right?" To which the answer is invariably "no, and it doesn't matter
> > because blah blah blah" -- but it DOES matter. Tarantino makes
> > derivative films based on things that inspired him. We all know the
> > story of him in the video store. There are an awful lot of movie
> > goers with the same experience. Watching Shaw Brothers martial arts
> > films to the point of becoming experts. Watching grindhouse films
> > and actually studying the detail.
> >
> > Tarantino is a cult filmmaker with swagger. He's Corman 3.0. Troma
> > 2.0.
> >
> > "Inglorious Basterds" is a remake. You can find the original in a
> > random dollar VHS bin. It's called "GI Bro" (tagline: "If you're
> > kraut, he'll take you out") So this was a bad film to BEGIN with.
> > Tarantino actually made it watchable.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Justin Mohareb wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, Rave. It's you.
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I have just seen Quentin Tarantino's "Inglourious Basterds" and I
> > >> am powerfully underwhelmed. The movie it most reminds me of is
> > >> Spike Lee's "The Miracle at St. Anna." Both movies are bloated and
> > >> too long and show a remarkable lack of narrative restraint. But
> > >> where "Anna" has made $9 million, "Basterds" has made $312 million
> > >> worldwide.
> > >>
> > >> Thinking "maybe it's me," I googled other reviews:
> > >>
> > >> "I don't know if I've ever seen a revenge fantasy so willfully
> > >> messed up, sometimes offensively so." - Michael Phillips, Chicago
> > >> Tribune
> > >>
> > >> "Clocking in at 2 hours and 32 minutes, it is unforgivably
> > >> leisurely."
> > >> - Kenneth Turan, Los Angeles Times.
> > >>
> > >> "Tonally schizoid and rife with anachronisms (a David Bowie song
> > >> on the sound track, out-of-era vernacular), Tarantino's Third
> > >> Reich folly is utterly exasperating." - Stephen Rea, Philadelphia
> > >> Inquirer
> > >>
> > >> All of these things are true and all of them can be said of
> > >> "Anna" (with the exception of the Bowie song).
> > >>
> > >> Both movies are visually impressive (some of the images in
> > >> "Basterds" are stunning), almost painterly but, in both cases, the
> > >> heightened cinematography distracts from the narrative. Both
> > >> directors have made better movies with lesser palattes.
> > >>
> > >> ~(no)rave!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [scifinoir2] (Brazilian movie) Besouro - Theatrical trailer

[bruce harden]

its a day later and im still in shock itll play in seattl  gotta go

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Oh. My. Frelling. Deity. If this gets within a parsec of Atlanta, I'll be
> shocked. And in line.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: s...@bayindogroup.com
> From: s...@bayindogroup.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:47:05 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] (Brazilian movie) Besouro - Theatrical trailer
>
>
>
> I'm speechless, my mouth hit the floor...I'm there when it comes to Los
> Angeles!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmo7_5A8U8
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] District 9 on DvD

[bruce harden]

http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_kick_ass_movie_trailer/ bah too the
cheerleaders this is my fav invulnerable  gal check it out

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I would only buy it if it has a bunch of extras and how they made the film.
> Otherwise it is not worth it. Unless you have a collection of films.
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, George Arterberry <
> brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it in your Netflix or Best Buy list?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: David Tennant Doctor Who Marathon starting at Midnight

[bruce harden]

forget that when is scyfy gonna start ru nning that spinoff series. which
everyone seems to love. and is caprica a moviec or series.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:30 AM, marian_changling wrote:

>
>
> I was really upset to see that I missed this until I noticed that it was on
> BBC America--which I don't have anyway.
>
> Do the skiffy channel decide to pick up Doctor Who again? It's still on
> their web page, but with no dates. I watched some on the web, but I would
> prefer to watch the last two Tennant episodes on a larger screen.
>
> (Marian)
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Kelwyn"
>  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/vortex/?q=node/1154
> >
> > BBC America to Marathon 10th Doctor Episodes on New Year's Day and Day
> >
> > Ring in the new year with the Doctor! BBC America will be marathoning
> Doctor Who episodes starring David Tennant as the Doctor starting at
> midnight, New Year's Day through January 2nd with the conclusion of David
> Tennant's last special, The End of Time, Part 2.
> >
> > It all starts at the stroke of midnight, January 1, 2010 with The
> Christmas Invasion, David Tennant's first full story as the Doctor after
> regenerating from the 9th Doctor played by Christopher Eccleston (from
> Christmas 2005). Each hour after that brings a new episode. 1am - New Earth,
> 2am - Tooth and Claw, etc.
> >
> > It leads up to the re-broadcast of The End of Time, Part 1 on January 2nd
> at 6:45pm followed by a half-hour "Doctor Who: The David Tennant Special"
> leading to The End of Time, Part 2 at 8:30pm.
> >
> > The latter two are repeated again at 11pm and 2am the next day.
> >
>
> 
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Southland" and "Leverage" on TNT this week

[bruce harden]

man give lost a new chance. you can rent seasons now start with mid 3rd or
when the 5 get back home and then  it'll carry you .It's definitely got it's
second wind back.  As for the big "3"  I fell in love with cable because
they will play new episodes more than once. just come in late  and there it
is again.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella's done in Mexico.
> They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It
> was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should
> have been used for "Lost". Good show, but it dragged on so many
> years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and
> interest.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Southland" and "Leverage" on TNT this week
>
>
>
> "...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows
> by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv?"
>
> Wisdom, pure and simple.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Southland" and "Leverage" on TNT this week
>
>
>
>  Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not
> to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving
> them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't
> get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me
> stop...they'll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys!
>
> "Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet"
> From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie
>
>
>  --
> *From:* B Smith 
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Re: "Southland" and "Leverage" on TNT this week
>
>
> The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have
> choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never
> get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting
> also hurt network drama too.
>
> Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few
> years:
>
> Dirty Sexy Money
> Southland
> The Unusuals
> Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
> Dollhouse
> Life On Mars
> Journeyman
> My Own Worst Enemy
>
> And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but
> all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of
> marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them.
>
> And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available
> most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand
> American network execs.
>
> --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , "Mr.
> Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many
> > good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have
> > been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness
> > > (the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a
> decent
> > > TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail.
> > >
> > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
> > > v=fQUxw9aUVik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  - -
> > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
> > > From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
> > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 +
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] "Southland" and "Leverage" on TNT this week
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The new cop drama "Southland" was given very little time to catch fire
> on
> > > NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of
> course,
> > > "Leverage" is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan
> is
> > > part of the cast for at least a little while?
> > >
> > > You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of
> the
> > > so-called broadcast networks. Look at the list of shows currently on
> TNT:
> > >
> > > The Closer...Dark Blue...HawthoRNe. ..Leverage. ..Men of a Certain
> > > Age...Raising the Bar... Saving Grace...Southland. ..Angel.. .Bones...
> Charmed
> > > Cold Case... CSI: NY...ER...Las Vegas...Law &
> > > Order...Numb3rs. ..Supernatural

Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood is Coming to the U.S.

[bruce harden]

but the writer of the original is writing this. I just want to know why the
scifi channel isn't showing this???

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Plucking British shows from across the pond and remaking them for
> American audiences is not a new practice. Also not new is the fact that most
> of them end in disaster. Still, anyone with half a brain knows the trend
> will continue, and that we'll just have to deal with it. But the latest show
> to get picked for Americanization even made *me* wince.
>
> Ready? Okay, here goes: Fox is importing 
> *Torchwood*,
> the popular spinoff of *Doctor 
> Who*,
> according to *The Hollywood 
> Reporter*.
>
>
> The show has a solid pack of rabid fans here in the United States, and the
> standalone miniseries *Children of Earth* delivered big-time ratings for
> BBC America when it aired last year. In other words, a lot of people are
> going to be very weary of the project.
>
> However, there is one indication that a U.S. *Torchwood* won't be a shell
> of its former self. Series creator Russell Davies is writing the script, and
> the rest of the *Torchwood* production team is on board for the U.S.
> version.
>
> Whereas the original *Torchwood* focused on a small group of operatives
> that dealt with aliens on a local basis, the U.S. version will feature a
> branch of the Torchwood Institute and cover more international territory.
>
> With Davies on board, there's an infinitesimal chance that the reboot will
> actually be good. What's your hope for the series?
>
>
> http://www.tv.com/torchwood-is-coming-to-the-u.s./story/20871.html?tag=hotspot;gumball;1
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

[bruce harden]

just had this argument with friends about the tea p0arty movement .W hen see
a midlec lass movent with folks of alll americans  I..ll get behind it. And
as for sarah  palin none has breached the subject ofher alaskan for
alskanans so  white south  african views.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> A lot of this is *having* to leave your comfort zone. There's a saying in
> Hollywood, "Women and girls will see movies with men and boys, but men and
> boys won't see movies with women and girls".
> I have always expanded that to include the H'Wood sentiment, "People of
> color will see films with white leads, but whites won't see films with black
> leads". At least, that's why H'Wood brands movies with two main black leads
> "black" films, and fears their success with white and European audiences.
>
> Whites have been able for centuries to live and work in a world where they
> haven't had to deal with people of color in meaningful ways. They gave us
> Captain Kirk and Superman and Batman and white Presidents, and we accepted
> it because we felt we had no choice until we gained more political,
> financial, and social power.  Similarly, women have had much of their lives
> and representations dictated to them by men who've controlled their fates.
> White men haven't really had to deal with not being in charge of everything.
> I think a lot of this Tea Party crap is frankly a bunch of disgruntled
> people in the majority who hate a world where people of color,
> non-Christians, gays, etc., are demanding more of a voice.
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:50:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
>
>
>
> I think that its not that they are afraid of getting heat from doing
> something wrong but it just never dawn on them to write anything other than
> what they already know. Basically, a white male writes about white males, a
> white woman writes about white women. There are exceptions (Tarantino, Law
> and Order) and variations (My big fat greek wedding for example.) but for
> the most part they are mirroring.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Adrianne Brennan <
> adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Actually I'd chalk it up to fear. Fear of doing something
>> un-PC/racist/inaccurate in the process and get slammed for it. And it's
>> really a shame. Unfortunately race is such a loaded issue people would
>> rather avoid it than tackle it head on.
>>
>> As far as what I'm working on at present, here's a good example: I have a
>> main char who is a vampire in NOLA. I have long considered the idea that she
>> is of a mixed racial background and maybe even at one point hid that fact on
>> purpose. It'd be a very interesting plot to tackle and would make her
>> background that much more interesting. What I first have to do is research
>> NOLA in the very early 20th century (which is when she would've been around)
>> and get a better sense of how a woman of her background would've fared
>> before and after being Turned in that time period--and take it from there.
>>
>>
>> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
>> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
>> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
>> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think Caucasian writers never think of people of color unless they
>>> socialize with them. How else do we end up with tv shows like Seinfeld and
>>> Friends? NYC is extremely diverse and yet you have two examples of a show
>>> where even the extras are 98% white.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Martin Baxter <
>>> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 Adrianne, I write Afrocentric from my protagonists' standpoint, but my
 supporting characters are of all races, drawing from my own past. In 
 defense
 of Caucasian writers, they may not be able to bridge that divide for the
 same reason. There simply may be no one of color in their circle for them 
 to
 draw on example-wise, even in this exalted day and age.

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>>>
>>>  --
>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
>>> Mahogany at:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break

[bruce harden]

i think the fact they had no peter parker no speed ball no steve rogers .
They had no  one that you can like  doomed it . so me people say hiro but
too me he  was a close to asterretype as you can get . i kept hoping for the
apperaance of the dark hiro. the charecters all did nothing but bitch and
whine

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, if I'm going to go there, it won't be on a small scale. I'll be
> needing the room. ;-D
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>  Actually a Nissan Altima can hold about 2 bodies pretty easily. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Isn't that why Deity made ballpeen hammers and '74 Lincoln Continentals
> (with extra-large trunks)? ;-)
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:10:36 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>  The problem is that great scripts can be written but the people doing the
> decision making don't have the smarts to do anything with them.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr Worf, once again you prove that we need to be doing the writing in
> H'Wood...
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break
>
>
>   Fast forward through the episodes. Many of them are useless and move the
> plot only incrementally. The Sylar/Peter thing bugs me although it was
> interesting.
>
> The Claire outing herself thing is the last couple of minutes of the last
> episode of the season.
>
> My question is what is the use of having people with superpowers and no one
> uses them? Everyone wants to "fit in." Peter could have quite literally made
> himself into Superman but they backed away from it.
>
> When the series started I thought that it was going to take the direction
> of being sort of a live action superhero universe where costume heroes come
> alive. Or at least show the beginnings of a world like that.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, angelababycat 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to
> watch even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing
> or ghost hunting to watch.  As I think someone else mentioned in a previous
> discussion, the carnival stuff killed it for me.  I really do want to see
> the part about Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure
> just to see that!?!
> Why does this keep happening to our shows?
> Angela
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought
> out
> > story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool
> > things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the
> > format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the
> show.
> >
> > Its like turning a comedy show into a drama.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella <
> > tdli...@... wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the
> change
>
> > > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the
> whole
> > > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who
> were
> > > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around
> out
> > > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that the past
> glory
> > > would return, this season, I couldn’t muster up the energy to turn
> the
>
> > > channel or to watch it on Hulu.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It jumped the shark long ago…. A fate worse than the series finale of
>
>
> > > Battlestar Gallactica. Who would have thought it possible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
> *On
> > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:46 AM
> > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First
> Break
> > >
> > >
>