Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Thank you, dear sir, I needed that well wish... From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:49:13 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well, whatever may transpire, I hope it comes as a great success for you.. :-) Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com writes: I'm doing okay...hoped to raise enough cash to get a piece of a truck or van for my carpentry trade, but failed, so going back to school for welding you never know what trade will come it handy when the world economy will revert back to the barter system... -From: brent wodehouse brent_wodehouse@ thefence. us To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:45:15 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê Oh, you know, bearing up as well as can be expected in these days of more modest expectations. :-) How 'bout you, sir? How's the general well being? Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2 002%40yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com writes: æ Brent! How are you sir? -From: brent wodehouse [ mailto:brent_ wodehouse% 40thefence. .us ]brent_wodehouse@ thefence. us To: [ mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:58:16 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æ Ahhh yes. That she is... :-) Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2 002%40yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ http://yahoo. com/ ]yahoo..com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry [ mailto:brotherfro m howard%40yahoo. com ]brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: [ mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro [ http://ups..com/ ]ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ¾ It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama.. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ [ [ http://gmail. com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ]http://gmail.. . com/ ][ [ http://gmail. com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ][ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ][ [ http://ups.com/ ]http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM ¾ The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ [ [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 [ mailto:3%40lycos. com ]...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ [ [ http://lycos. com/ ]http://lycos. com/ ][ http://lycos. com/ ]lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ [ [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ][ http://www.imdb. / ]http://www.. imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ - [ Received Mail Content ]-- ¾Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ¾Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ¾From : C.W. Badie [ [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ][ http://us.mc586. / ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002 @ [ [ http://yahoo. com/ ]http://yahoo. com/ ]yahoo.com ¾To : [ [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ][ http://us.mc586. / ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups..com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. . .. _ _ _ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ][ http://us.mc586. / ]http://us.mc586. . mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
And I'll deserve every inch of it. But I'll getting a cut of the pie for the show. (And you'd have that truck!) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:03:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now If the blonde starts talking God nad his plan, I'll know who to cuss out, Martin... From: wlro...@aol.com wlro...@aol.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:20:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well as long as you don't see any red dresses anywhere then I am sure there is nothing to worry about as of yet. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up before RDM sees this and gets ideas... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: asrobin...@mindspri ng.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 + Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr.. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Well, whatever may transpire, I hope it comes as a great success for you. :-) Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com writes: I'm doing okay...hoped to raise enough cash to get a piece of a truck or van for my carpentry trade, but failed, so going back to school for weldingyou never know what trade will come it handy when the world economy will revert back to the barter system... -From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:45:15 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê Oh, you know, bearing up as well as can be expected in these days of more modest expectations. :-) How 'bout you, sir? How's the general well being? Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2002%40yahoo.com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com writes: æ Brent! How are you sir? -From: brent wodehouse [ mailto:brent_wodehouse%40thefence..us ]brent_wodehouse@ thefence. us To: [ mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ]scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:58:16 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æ Ahhh yes. That she is... :-) Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2 002%40yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ http://yahoo.com/ ]yahoo.com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry [ mailto:brotherfrom howard%40yahoo. com ]brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: [ mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ¾ It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama.. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ [ [ http://gmail.com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ]http://gmail.. com/ ][ [ http://gmail.com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ][ http://gmail.com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ][ [ http://ups.com/ ]http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM ¾ The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ [ [ http://us.mc586..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 [ mailto:3%40lycos.com ]...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ [ [ http://lycos.com/ ]http://lycos. com/ ][ http://lycos.com/ ]lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ [ [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ][ http://www.imdb./ ]http://www..imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ¾Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ¾Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ¾From : C.W. Badie [ [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ][ http://us.mc586./ ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ [ http://yahoo.com/ ]http://yahoo. com/ ]yahoo.com ¾To : [ [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ][ http://us.mc586./ ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups..com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. . .. __ _ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ][ http://us.mc586./ ]http://us.mc586.. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Now that's a very good thing... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:34:12 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now And I'll deserve every inch of it. But I'll getting a cut of the pie for the show. (And you'd have that truck!) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:03:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now If the blonde starts talking God nad his plan, I'll know who to cuss out, Martin... From: wlro...@aol. com wlro...@aol. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:20:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well as long as you don't see any red dresses anywhere then I am sure there is nothing to worry about as of yet. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up before RDM sees this and gets ideas... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: asrobin...@mindspri ng.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 + Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr.. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb./ com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586./ mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
I'm doing okay...hoped to raise enough cash to get a piece of a truck or van for my carpentry trade, but failed, so going back to school for welding.you never know what trade will come it handy when the world economy will revert back to the barter system... From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:45:15 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Oh, you know, bearing up as well as can be expected in these days of more modest expectations. :-) How 'bout you, sir? How's the general well being? Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com writes: Ê Brent! How are you sir? -From: brent wodehouse brent_wodehouse@ thefence. us To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:58:16 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê Ahhh... yes. That she is :-) Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2 002%40yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry [ mailto:brotherfrom howard%40yahoo. com ]brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: [ mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æ It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama.. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ [ http://gmail. com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ][ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ][ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM æ The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ [ http://lycos. com/ ]lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- æSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) æFrom : C.W. Badie [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ http://yahoo. com/ ]yahoo.com æTo : [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups...com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. . .. __ _ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ [ http://ups.com/ ]http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps
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Well as long as you don't see any red dresses anywhere then I am sure there is nothing to worry about as of yet. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up before RDM sees this and gets ideas... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: asrobin...@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 + Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music
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If the blonde starts talking God nad his plan, I'll know who to cuss out, Martin... From: wlro...@aol.com wlro...@aol.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:20:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well as long as you don't see any red dresses anywhere then I am sure there is nothing to worry about as of yet. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up before RDM sees this and gets ideas... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: asrobin...@mindspri ng.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 + Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups.. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race
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Hehehe you know I thought that looked familiar! Good eye! On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote: Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo.com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifino...@yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifino...@yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music
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Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up before RDM sees this and gets ideas... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: asrobin...@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 + Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality
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Yup, but I won't tell... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:45:38 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Is the sigh of contentment that just rolled from my lips wrong? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups..com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up
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;-D If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:13:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Yup, but I won't tell... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:45:38 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Is the sigh of contentment that just rolled from my lips wrong? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times.. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported
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Oh, you know, bearing up as well as can be expected in these days of more modest expectations. :-) How 'bout you, sir? How's the general well being? Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com writes: Ê Brent! How are you sir? -From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:58:16 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê Ahhh... yes. That she is... :-) Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2002%40yahoo.com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry [ mailto:brotherfromhoward%40yahoo.com ]brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: [ mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ]scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æ It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama.. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ [ http://gmail.com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ][ http://gmail.com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ][ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM æ The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ [ http://us.mc586..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ [ http://lycos.com/ ]lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- æSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) æFrom : C.W. Badie [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ http://yahoo.com/ ]yahoo.com æTo : [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups..com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation.. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ [ http://ups.com/ ]http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek
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Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? ÊDon't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up
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Is the sigh of contentment that just rolled from my lips wrong? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're
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I have to do that with the ep that just aired, thanks to Comcrap's decision that ABC wasn't worth broadcasting Sunday night. (spit!) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:07:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Yeah, you do that... From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:58:53 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Have you watched all three eps shown so far? I'm behind, need to catch up on the Net to see if it's worth my time... - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:17:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr.. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved.. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest
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Ahhh... yes. That she is... :-) Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail.com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? ÊDon't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine
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Mr Worf, I still try to keep up with British TV, mostly through BBC America (when it works for me) and the online streamers. The model doesn't seem to have changed. I've started watching a Britcom called My Family, with Zoe Wanamaker and Robert Lindsey, and it makes me laugh harder and longer than anything H'Wood's tossed out in the last five years. And I LOVE The Big Bang Theory. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:01:41 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree. I was just thinking of how american tv does things historically. Like Lost for example. They may be doing the same thing on UK tv too but we don't know them so they may not stick out as much. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: As I've said in another thread, Mr Worf, I think that not having guest stars on a series might be a blessing in disguise. I've long admired the British formula of television, in which a set cast of actors, writers and directors allows for greater story cohesion and development. One rarely gets a WTF? moment like the last ep of BG. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:12:22 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality
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It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ http://www. imdb.com/ title/tt1319690/ http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity
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Have you watched all three eps shown so far? I'm behind, need to catch up on the Net to see if it's worth my time... - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:17:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality
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Yeah, you do that... From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:58:53 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Have you watched all three eps shown so far? I'm behind, need to catch up on the Net to see if it's worth my time... - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:17:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart.. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality.. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt
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They seem to be too focused on OOooo space. instead of the plot, dialog and drama that makes it worth watching. Star trek always had a moral dilemma plus mystery that made people watch. The mystery on this show is not very interesting. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Have you watched all three eps shown so far? I'm behind, need to catch up on the Net to see if it's worth my time... - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:17:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On *Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.comhttp://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.comhttp://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again
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too bad it hasn't gotten better... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now They seem to be too focused on OOooo space. instead of the plot, dialog and drama that makes it worth watching. Star trek always had a moral dilemma plus mystery that made people watch. The mystery on this show is not very interesting. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Have you watched all three eps shown so far? I'm behind, need to catch up on the Net to see if it's worth my time... - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:17:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap
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I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com LeadenThat' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right.. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much
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Well...I'll get my Karen Leblanc fix for as long as it lasts... From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:12:22 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ http://www. imdb.com/ title/tt1319690/ http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http
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I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Leaden...That's the word! From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogroups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Leaden...That's the word! From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogroups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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I rest my case... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right.. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Yupyou got that right...probably win awards if it was done in AustraliaNo offense my Aussie friends... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:56:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right.. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/http://www.imdb.. com/title/ tt1319690/ http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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As I've said in another thread, Mr Worf, I think that not having guest stars on a series might be a blessing in disguise. I've long admired the British formula of television, in which a set cast of actors, writers and directors allows for greater story cohesion and development. One rarely gets a WTF? moment like the last ep of BG. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:12:22 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's
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Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohyea... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right.. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http
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I agree. I was just thinking of how american tv does things historically. Like Lost for example. They may be doing the same thing on UK tv too but we don't know them so they may not stick out as much. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: As I've said in another thread, Mr Worf, I think that not having guest stars on a series might be a blessing in disguise. I've long admired the British formula of television, in which a set cast of actors, writers and directors allows for greater story cohesion and development. One rarely gets a WTF? moment like the last ep of BG. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:12:22 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off
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how are the ratings so far? - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:06:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos..com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast..net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
they got a 3.7 last week versus the Simpsons at 4.6 (in reruns) Most of the science based shows don't do well. Huxley was right. Ever see Idocracy? On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: how are the ratings so far? - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:06:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation... -- *From:* Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos..com *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM *Subject:* [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *[scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now *Date : *Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) *From : *Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast..net http://comcast.net/ *To : *scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality , this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality , it bores me as much as it intrigues--somethin g that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality, a mystery? Don't know, but I foun! d myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality, this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality, it bores me as much as it intrigues--something that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Yeah, leaden is a good way to describe it at times. Those TV sitcom/nightly soap moments still didn't work for me. I'm a big fan of all music in TV and movies, so I pay attention to all of it: special effects sounds, quick clips to create a mood, theme songs, ending theme songs, going-to-commercial music, etc., etc. So I definitely noticed - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 9:24:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality, a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality, this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality, it bores me as much as it intrigues--something that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Here's a silly question, but what happened to that show that was on Fox? I can't think of the name but it came on 3 weeks ago and I haven't seen it since. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality, a mystery? Don't know, but I found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality, this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality, it bores me as much as it intrigues--something that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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That's the one I mentioned here also: Virtuality. My understanding is that Fox elected not to pick it up as a series. I think the pilot two-hour TV movie was written in a way so that it could be a self-contained movie if that happened. At least, that's what I heard. I didn't spend the time watching to the end to see how they wrapped things up. You know, one thing I will saw about Virtuality: it's at least nice to see a bit of a return to some scifi movies-of-the week on network TV. NBC did a two-part movie last weekend about a comet or something hitting Earth. Wasn't great, but was decent for a couple of hours. I remember when I was younger, back when movies-of-the-week were the norm, there was a lot of that type of scifi. I do wish that would return, so that we could enjoy some movies without having to worry about them becoming series. And, to give us an alternative to the SyFy weekend movies, which are just as horrible now as they were before the name change... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 10:21:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Here's a silly question, but what happened to that show that was on Fox? I can't think of the name but it came on 3 weeks ago and I haven't seen it since. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality, a mystery? Don't know, but I found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality, this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality, it bores me as much as it intrigues--something that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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I think that they like doing series because if it is successful they can make a ton of money off of them domestically and in syndication. (plus merchandising) I think that if they were to reshoot some of the segments it could be interesting. I don't think that the show could have worked after killing the protagonist it felt as if they were doing a writing exercise. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: That's the one I mentioned here also: Virtuality. My understanding is that Fox elected not to pick it up as a series. I think the pilot two-hour TV movie was written in a way so that it could be a self-contained movie if that happened. At least, that's what I heard. I didn't spend the time watching to the end to see how they wrapped things up. You know, one thing I will saw about Virtuality: it's at least nice to see a bit of a return to some scifi movies-of-the week on network TV. NBC did a two-part movie last weekend about a comet or something hitting Earth. Wasn't great, but was decent for a couple of hours. I remember when I was younger, back when movies-of-the-week were the norm, there was a lot of that type of scifi. I do wish that would return, so that we could enjoy some movies without having to worry about them becoming series. And, to give us an alternative to the SyFy weekend movies, which are just as horrible now as they were before the name change... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 10:21:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Here's a silly question, but what happened to that show that was on Fox? I can't think of the name but it came on 3 weeks ago and I haven't seen it since. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality, a mystery? Don't know, but I found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then losing it again as the standard nighttime soap feel comes back in the mix. Lots of TV veterans, including the blonde lady from The 4400 (the one who feel inlove with a black man), and Cristina Cox Blood Ties, who's been a guest in more series than Michael Michelle. They're all okay, but again, the uneven pacing, writing, and flashbacks undermine their acting. The constant shift from a high-tech spaceshp to mundane scenes on Earth are abrupt and off-putting. Like Virtuality, this show seems to be another clone that tries to copy the delicate balance of reality-type drama mixed with scifi that BSG (mostly) did right. and like Virtuality, it bores me as much as it intrigues--something that BSG didn't do in the main. Not sure if the show's even being picked up, but if it is, not sure I'll keep watching. Anyone else's thought's? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com
