RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-09-03 Thread Reece Jennings
Sigh...I just can't get a break!  LOLLOL!
 
 
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Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:17 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?



Sure guy...(YOU ARE SO BUSTED!!!)

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I know! And to make it worse, I sent the reply first, THEN looked at
who
sent the original, expecting
to see Keith or Astro...A little chagrin when I saw MAIDMARIAN The Poet!
YIKES! I figured you would
know I was kidding, though! :o)

Maurice Jennings
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

shame on you! (smile)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will NOT say what my initial mental image was when you said Cock
 Fighting!
 There WAS pain involved, though...LOLLOL!
 
 Maurice Jennings
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?
 
 
 
 Yeah, I would not call him Hitler. Here in La., we have our own 
 problems with cock-fighting. Just a different animal. 
 
 Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about. (un-intentend pun)
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
ups.com,
 KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  thanks for the summaries. 
  As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have 
long 
 been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for 
animal 
 rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of 
humane 
 treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were 
Hitler 
 or something, and I don't see it on that level.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-09-02 Thread Astromancer
Sure guy...(YOU ARE SO BUSTED!!!)

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I know! And to make it 
worse, I sent the reply first, THEN looked at who
sent the original, expecting
to see Keith or Astro...A little chagrin when I saw MAIDMARIAN The Poet!
YIKES! I figured you would
know I was kidding, though! :o)

Maurice Jennings
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KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:10 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

shame on you! (smile)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will NOT say what my initial mental image was when you said Cock
 Fighting!
 There WAS pain involved, though...LOLLOL!
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?
 
 
 
 Yeah, I would not call him Hitler. Here in La., we have our own 
 problems with cock-fighting. Just a different animal. 
 
 Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about. (un-intentend pun)
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
ups.com,
 KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  thanks for the summaries. 
  As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have 
long 
 been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for 
animal 
 rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of 
humane 
 treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were 
Hitler 
 or something, and I don't see it on that level.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
I enjoyed Jerry Was a Man best.  I don't know if its wry tone 
matched the original story.  It was the story of a wealthy couple who 
set out to purpose a bio-engineered flying horse in order to outshine 
their neighbor who has another bio-eng animal.  The company 
owner/engineer talks them into leasing a man who the wife comes to 
see as human.  She sues the company in order to break the lease 
saying that Jerry is a Man and not a throw-away.  I see on the net 
that Heinlein wrote it in 1947, so it preceeds Asimov's The 
Bicentennial Man.  

The Discarded is based on an Ellison story that I recall reading.  
We have a ship full of people disformed by disease.  They are in 
orbit, not allowed to leave.  Earth sends a ship saying 'the virus 
that caused your deformation is spreading.  We now know that we can 
make a serum from your blood as a cure.  Give us your blood and we'll 
let you land.' Despite the warnings of their leader, they give the 
blood.  I'll let you guess the ending.  

The stories are not unoriginal.  Especially for their time.  The 
Discarded was as much of a slap of cold water in the face as The 
Cold Equations was in its time.  I think that our society is more 
cynical now and more aware of how we use people and throw them away.

Perhaps the stories could even be saved.  I heard a journalist talk 
about how many emails he got from people who didn't understand the 
flack that Vick received about killing dogs.  Many people feel that 
nature is here to serve man.   Maybe if Jerrry was played by a dog, 
people would get Heilein's message.  I see that in the original 
story, Jerry was chimpanzee.


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you give a quick synopsis of these two, and why they're so 
unoriginal?
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I saw two of them: Jerry Was a Man and The Discarded. I think 
that I will agree with one 
 of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it 
is a shame that they picked 
 such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have 
been subsumed by SF and 
 there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, 
the stories had no sense-
 of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of 
the scifi channel 
 monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.
 
 If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be 
good to see a good 
 anthology show again.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely 
forgot about this. Did anyone 
 catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, 
with some series hanging 
 on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi 
anthology shows. I miss the days 
 of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where 
you had lots of different 
 stories and guest stars. How was it?
  
 
 
  
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
thanks for the summaries. 
As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have long been 
amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for animal rights than 
humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of humane treatment. But (some) 
people want to penalize Vick as if he were Hitler or something, and I don't see 
it on that level.

-- Original message -- 
From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I enjoyed Jerry Was a Man best. I don't know if its wry tone 
matched the original story. It was the story of a wealthy couple who 
set out to purpose a bio-engineered flying horse in order to outshine 
their neighbor who has another bio-eng animal. The company 
owner/engineer talks them into leasing a man who the wife comes to 
see as human. She sues the company in order to break the lease 
saying that Jerry is a Man and not a throw-away. I see on the net 
that Heinlein wrote it in 1947, so it preceeds Asimov's The 
Bicentennial Man. 

The Discarded is based on an Ellison story that I recall reading. 
We have a ship full of people disformed by disease. They are in 
orbit, not allowed to leave. Earth sends a ship saying 'the virus 
that caused your deformation is spreading. We now know that we can 
make a serum from your blood as a cure. Give us your blood and we'll 
let you land.' Despite the warnings of their leader, they give the 
blood. I'll let you guess the ending. 

The stories are not unoriginal. Especially for their time. The 
Discarded was as much of a slap of cold water in the face as The 
Cold Equations was in its time. I think that our society is more 
cynical now and more aware of how we use people and throw them away.

Perhaps the stories could even be saved. I heard a journalist talk 
about how many emails he got from people who didn't understand the 
flack that Vick received about killing dogs. Many people feel that 
nature is here to serve man. Maybe if Jerrry was played by a dog, 
people would get Heilein's message. I see that in the original 
story, Jerry was chimpanzee.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you give a quick synopsis of these two, and why they're so 
unoriginal?
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I saw two of them: Jerry Was a Man and The Discarded. I think 
that I will agree with one 
 of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it 
is a shame that they picked 
 such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have 
been subsumed by SF and 
 there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, 
the stories had no sense-
 of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of 
the scifi channel 
 monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.
 
 If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be 
good to see a good 
 anthology show again.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely 
forgot about this. Did anyone 
 catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, 
with some series hanging 
 on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi 
anthology shows. I miss the days 
 of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where 
you had lots of different 
 stories and guest stars. How was it?
  
 
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
Yeah, I would not call him Hitler.  Here in La., we have our own 
problems with cock-fighting.  Just a different animal.  

Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about.  (un-intentend pun)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks for the summaries. 
 As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have long 
been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for animal 
rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of humane 
treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were Hitler 
or something, and I don't see it on that level.




RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread Reece Jennings
I will NOT say what my initial mental image was when  you said Cock
Fighting!
There WAS pain involved, though...LOLLOL!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:54 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?



Yeah, I would not call him Hitler. Here in La., we have our own 
problems with cock-fighting. Just a different animal. 

Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about. (un-intentend pun)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks for the summaries. 
 As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have long 
been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for animal 
rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of humane 
treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were Hitler 
or something, and I don't see it on that level.



 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread Martin
Don't really know. Never considered looking for them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   all sound like good 
stories, good old school scifi. I'll need to look them up. wonder if they're 
available online?
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Fondly Fahrenheit is about a labor robot that begins killing people when the 
temperature is too high. Its owner, who makes his living on the sweat of the 
'bot's brow, tries to cover up the crimes and fix the thing on his own. His 
repair work keeps the bot from killing in warm temps, but when the owner takes 
it to a cold planet...
 
 Beep is one of my all-time faves. It's about a future where a new comm 
technology, based on Dirac theory, allows people across the Galaxy to 
communicate with each other instantly. The system works like a charm, save for 
this annoying, loud BEEP at the beginning of each transmission. A scientist 
sets out to try to remove the beep from the transmission, only to learn that 
the beep is, in actuality, the aggregation of *every signal the system has or 
will ever send*. The perfect spy tool-slash-time machine...
 
 Anderson's TIme Patrol stories are just that, a group of people who keep 
Time safe from all sorts of miscreants. Piper's Paratime does that for all 
known worldlines. Nightfall is the tale of a civilization that lives in 
perpetual paradise, save for the one night every ten thousand years when the 
sun goes down. Talk about folk being afraid of the dark...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are those about, i haven't read any of them.
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I guess that they were trying to introduce the old classics to a newer 
generation. I've read most of the stories the eps were based on, but I can't 
really say that I liked any of them. Some great ones I would've liked to have 
seen, which I think could've translated over well, are Fondly Fahrenheit by 
Alfred Bester, Beep by James Blish, any one of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol 
stories or H Beam Piper's Paratime stories and the classic Nightfall by 
Isaac Asimov.
 
 my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw two of them: Jerry Was a 
Man and The Discarded. I think that I will agree with one 
 of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it is a shame 
that they picked 
 such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have been subsumed 
by SF and 
 there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, the 
stories had no sense-
 of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of the scifi 
channel 
 monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.
 
 If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be good to see 
a good 
 anthology show again.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely forgot about 
  this. Did anyone 
 catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, with some 
series hanging 
 on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi anthology 
shows. I miss the days 
 of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where you had lots 
of different 
 stories and guest stars. How was it?
  
 
 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
shame on you! (smile)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Reece Jennings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will NOT say what my initial mental image was when  you said Cock
 Fighting!
 There WAS pain involved, though...LOLLOL!
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = 
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?
 
 
 
 Yeah, I would not call him Hitler. Here in La., we have our own 
 problems with cock-fighting. Just a different animal. 
 
 Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about. (un-intentend pun)
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
ups.com,
 KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  thanks for the summaries. 
  As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have 
long 
 been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for 
animal 
 rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of 
humane 
 treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were 
Hitler 
 or something, and I don't see it on that level.
 
 
 
  
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
If you can't find them online, try the library.  Most of these stories 
have been anthologized (is that a word?) quite often.


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 all sound like good stories, good old school scifi. I'll need to look 
them up. wonder if they're available online?
 




RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-27 Thread Reece Jennings
I know!  And to make it worse, I sent the reply first, THEN looked at who
sent the original, expecting
to see Keith or Astro...A little chagrin when I saw MAIDMARIAN The Poet!
YIKES!  I figured you would
know I was kidding, though!  :o)
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:10 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?



shame on you! (smile)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will NOT say what my initial mental image was when you said Cock
 Fighting!
 There WAS pain involved, though...LOLLOL!
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = 
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 
 
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of maidmarian_thepoet
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?
 
 
 
 Yeah, I would not call him Hitler. Here in La., we have our own 
 problems with cock-fighting. Just a different animal. 
 
 Everyone picks a cause that they are rabid about. (un-intentend pun)
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
ups.com,
 KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  thanks for the summaries. 
  As for Mike Vick, what he did was horrible, no doubt. But I have 
long 
 been amazed at how so many people spend more time fighting for 
animal 
 rights than humans'. Dogs and cats are absolutley deserving of 
humane 
 treatment. But (some) people want to penalize Vick as if he were 
Hitler 
 or something, and I don't see it on that level.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-26 Thread Martin
I guess that they were trying to introduce the old classics to a newer 
generation. I've read most of the stories the eps were based on, but I can't 
really say that I liked any of them. Some great ones I would've liked to have 
seen, which I think could've translated over well, are Fondly Fahrenheit by 
Alfred Bester, Beep by James Blish, any one of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol 
stories or H Beam Piper's Paratime stories and the classic Nightfall by 
Isaac Asimov.

my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I 
saw two of them:  Jerry Was a Man and The Discarded.  I think that I will 
agree with one 
 of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it is a shame 
that they picked 
 such old stories.  The themes of the stories that I watched have been subsumed 
by SF and 
 there was no real revelation at the conclusion.  Even for filmed SF, the 
stories had no sense-
 of-wonder or shock-of-the-new.   They were watchable, unlike a lot of the 
scifi channel 
 monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.
 
 If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories.  It would be good to 
see a good 
 anthology show again.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Given everything that went on in my life recently,  completely forgot about 
  this. Did anyone 
 catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, with some 
series hanging 
 on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi anthology 
shows.  I miss the days 
 of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where you had lots 
of different 
 stories and guest stars. How was it?
 
 
 
 
   


There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
   
-
Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, 
photos  more. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
what are those about, i haven't read any of them.

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From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I guess that they were trying to introduce the old classics to a newer 
generation. I've read most of the stories the eps were based on, but I can't 
really say that I liked any of them. Some great ones I would've liked to have 
seen, which I think could've translated over well, are Fondly Fahrenheit by 
Alfred Bester, Beep by James Blish, any one of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol 
stories or H Beam Piper's Paratime stories and the classic Nightfall by 
Isaac Asimov.

my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw two of them: Jerry Was a 
Man and The Discarded. I think that I will agree with one 
of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it is a shame 
that they picked 
such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have been subsumed 
by SF and 
there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, the stories 
had no sense-
of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of the scifi 
channel 
monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.

If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be good to see 
a good 
anthology show again.

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 Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely forgot about 
 this. Did anyone 
catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, with some 
series hanging 
on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi anthology 
shows. I miss the days 
of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where you had lots 
of different 
stories and guest stars. How was it?
 





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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Can you give a quick synopsis of these two, and why they're so unoriginal?

-- Original message -- 
From: my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I saw two of them: Jerry Was a Man and The Discarded. I think that I will 
agree with one 
of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it is a shame 
that they picked 
such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have been subsumed 
by SF and 
there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, the stories 
had no sense-
of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of the scifi 
channel 
monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.

If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be good to see 
a good 
anthology show again.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely forgot about 
 this. Did anyone 
catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, with some 
series hanging 
on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi anthology 
shows. I miss the days 
of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where you had lots 
of different 
stories and guest stars. How was it?
 


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anyone See Masters of Science Fiction?

2007-08-26 Thread Martin
Fondly Fahrenheit is about a labor robot that begins killing people when the 
temperature is too high. Its owner, who makes his living on the sweat of the 
'bot's brow, tries to cover up the crimes and fix the thing on his own. His 
repair work keeps the bot from killing in warm temps, but when the owner takes 
it to a cold planet...

Beep is one of my all-time faves. It's about a future where a new comm 
technology, based on Dirac theory, allows people across the Galaxy to 
communicate with each other instantly. The system works like a charm, save for 
this annoying, loud BEEP at the beginning of each transmission. A scientist 
sets out to try to remove the beep from the transmission, only to learn that 
the beep is, in actuality, the aggregation of *every signal the system has or 
will ever send*. The perfect spy tool-slash-time machine...

Anderson's TIme Patrol stories are just that, a group of people who keep Time 
safe from all sorts of miscreants. Piper's Paratime does that for all known 
worldlines. Nightfall is the tale of a civilization that lives in perpetual 
paradise, save for the one night every ten thousand years when the sun goes 
down. Talk about folk being afraid of the dark...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   what are those about, i 
haven't read any of them.
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I guess that they were trying to introduce the old classics to a newer 
generation. I've read most of the stories the eps were based on, but I can't 
really say that I liked any of them. Some great ones I would've liked to have 
seen, which I think could've translated over well, are Fondly Fahrenheit by 
Alfred Bester, Beep by James Blish, any one of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol 
stories or H Beam Piper's Paratime stories and the classic Nightfall by 
Isaac Asimov.
 
 my_current_identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw two of them: Jerry Was a 
Man and The Discarded. I think that I will agree with one 
 of the reviews I read that said that the concept was great, but it is a shame 
that they picked 
 such old stories. The themes of the stories that I watched have been subsumed 
by SF and 
 there was no real revelation at the conclusion. Even for filmed SF, the 
stories had no sense-
 of-wonder or shock-of-the-new. They were watchable, unlike a lot of the scifi 
channel 
 monster movies, but I don't think that you missed much.
 
 If they continue, I hope that they pick newer stories. It would be good to see 
a good 
 anthology show again.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Given everything that went on in my life recently, completely forgot about 
  this. Did anyone 
 catch it? Was it any good? Even though scifi ebbs and flows on Tv, with some 
series hanging 
 on (Herores, Battlestar), I've long felt the lost of the scifi anthology 
shows. I miss the days 
 of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, even Night Gallgery, where you had lots 
of different 
 stories and guest stars. How was it?
  
 
 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
 
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