Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
More wisdom from your keys, rave! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to earn > substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers > everyone's wages. > > I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I > stand by my China statement. > > By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One > of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the > decision to repopulate the world with billionaires. > > If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what > it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of > Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a > millionaire? Start as a billionaire). > > This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to do > the work on the other side. > > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Daryle > Lockhart wrote: > > > > > > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this > > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt > > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not > > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. > > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which > > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are > > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one > > form of exploitation is better than another. > > > > > > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, > > you lower your standard of living. > > > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell > > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after > > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. > > > > > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 > > > to 10 to a dorm room? > > > > > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? > > > > > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. > > > We purchase our future subjugation. > > > > > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the > > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of > > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 > > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. > > > > > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of > > > living. > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr. > Worf" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One > > > covered Malaysia > > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China > > > was even > > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the > > > billions that > > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The > > > reporter's > > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > > > > > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a > > > search on > > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > > > > > > > You can also check it out on their website at: > > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > > > > > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff > > > that > > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get > > > covered by > > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they > > > attacked the US > > > > boat. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was > > > on? I'll keep > > > > > an eye out for it. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on > > > Current tv? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- > > > china-deaths-suicides > > > > > > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today > > > at an > > > > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of > > > the world's mobile > > > > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were > > > bolted into the walls > > > > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually > > > cover 1.5m square > > > > metre
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
Also the stuff of nightmares... On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > Hmmm there's a story. The progeny of T.Boone Pickens and Paris Hilton. :) > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > >> There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to >> earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers >> everyone's wages. >> >> I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I >> stand by my China statement. >> >> By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One >> of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the >> decision to repopulate the world with billionaires. >> >> If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what >> it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of >> Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a >> millionaire? Start as a billionaire). >> >> This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to >> do the work on the other side. >> >> ~rave! >> >> >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: >> > >> > >> > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this >> > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt >> > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not >> > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. >> > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which >> > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are >> > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one >> > form of exploitation is better than another. >> > >> > >> > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, >> > you lower your standard of living. >> > >> > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: >> > >> > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell >> > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after >> > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. >> > > >> > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 >> > > to 10 to a dorm room? >> > > >> > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? >> > > >> > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. >> > > We purchase our future subjugation. >> > > >> > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the >> > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of >> > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 >> > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. >> > > >> > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of >> > > living. >> > > >> > > ~(no)rave! >> > > >> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One >> > > covered Malaysia >> > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China >> > > was even >> > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the >> > > billions that >> > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and >> > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The >> > > reporter's >> > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. >> > > > >> > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a >> > > search on >> > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! >> > > > >> > > > You can also check it out on their website at: >> > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ >> > > > >> > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff >> > > that >> > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get >> > > covered by >> > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they >> > > attacked the US >> > > > boat. >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was >> > > on? I'll keep >> > > > > an eye out for it. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on >> > > Current tv? >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- >> > > china-deaths-suicides >> > > > >> > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today >> > > at an >> > > > industrial plant in southern C
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
Hmmm there's a story. The progeny of T.Boone Pickens and Paris Hilton. :) On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to > earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers > everyone's wages. > > I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I > stand by my China statement. > > By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One > of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the > decision to repopulate the world with billionaires. > > If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what > it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of > Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a > millionaire? Start as a billionaire). > > This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to do > the work on the other side. > > ~rave! > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > > > > > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this > > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt > > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not > > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. > > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which > > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are > > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one > > form of exploitation is better than another. > > > > > > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, > > you lower your standard of living. > > > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell > > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after > > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. > > > > > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 > > > to 10 to a dorm room? > > > > > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? > > > > > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. > > > We purchase our future subjugation. > > > > > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the > > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of > > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 > > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. > > > > > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of > > > living. > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One > > > covered Malaysia > > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China > > > was even > > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the > > > billions that > > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The > > > reporter's > > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > > > > > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a > > > search on > > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > > > > > > > You can also check it out on their website at: > > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > > > > > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff > > > that > > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get > > > covered by > > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they > > > attacked the US > > > > boat. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was > > > on? I'll keep > > > > > an eye out for it. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on > > > Current tv? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- > > > china-deaths-suicides > > > > > > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today > > > at an > > > > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of > > > the world's mobile > > > > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were > > > bolted into the walls > > > > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers everyone's wages. I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I stand by my China statement. By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the decision to repopulate the world with billionaires. If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire). This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to do the work on the other side. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one > form of exploitation is better than another. > > > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, > you lower your standard of living. > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. > > > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 > > to 10 to a dorm room? > > > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? > > > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. > > We purchase our future subjugation. > > > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. > > > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of > > living. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" > > wrote: > > > > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One > > covered Malaysia > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China > > was even > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the > > billions that > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The > > reporter's > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > > > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a > > search on > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > > > > > You can also check it out on their website at: > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > > > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff > > that > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get > > covered by > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they > > attacked the US > > > boat. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was > > on? I'll keep > > > > an eye out for it. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on > > Current tv? > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- > > china-deaths-suicides > > > > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today > > at an > > > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of > > the world's mobile > > > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were > > bolted into the walls > > > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually > > cover 1.5m square > > > metres. > > > > > > To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the > > Taiwanese > > > electronics company Foxconn â" which works with Apple, Dell > > and Sony â" has > > > also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
"Walmart is also the first corporation to top the Fortune 500 list that doesn't make anything (outside of money and more poverty)." And they wonder why we speak such ill of them... [?][?][?][?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > I know you mentioned profits and the margins are smaller in retail but > Walmart is number one on the 2010 Fortune 500 list and Exxon is number > 2. Walmart is also the first corporation to top the Fortune 500 list that > doesn't make anything (outside of money and more poverty). > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Daryle > Lockhart wrote: > > > > > > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this > > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt > > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not > > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. > > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which > > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are > > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one > > form of exploitation is better than another. > > > > > > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, > > you lower your standard of living. > > > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell > > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after > > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. > > > > > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 > > > to 10 to a dorm room? > > > > > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? > > > > > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. > > > We purchase our future subjugation. > > > > > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the > > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of > > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 > > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. > > > > > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of > > > living. > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr. > Worf" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One > > > covered Malaysia > > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China > > > was even > > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the > > > billions that > > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The > > > reporter's > > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > > > > > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a > > > search on > > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > > > > > > > You can also check it out on their website at: > > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > > > > > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff > > > that > > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get > > > covered by > > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they > > > attacked the US > > > > boat. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was > > > on? I'll keep > > > > > an eye out for it. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on > > > Current tv? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- > > > china-deaths-suicides > > > > > > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today > > > at an > > > > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of > > > the world's mobile > > > > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were > > > bolted into the walls > > > > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually > > > cover 1.5m square > > > > metres. > > > > > > > > To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the > > > Taiwanese > > > > electronics company Foxconn â€" which works with Apple, Dell > > > and Sony â€" has > > > > > also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered > > > counselling to its 420,000 > > > > employees here. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> "If al
[scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
I know you mentioned profits and the margins are smaller in retail but Walmart is number one on the 2010 Fortune 500 list and Exxon is number 2. Walmart is also the first corporation to top the Fortune 500 list that doesn't make anything (outside of money and more poverty). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > > You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this > piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt > costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not > AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. > Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which > makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are > something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one > form of exploitation is better than another. > > > Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, > you lower your standard of living. > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell > > or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after > > Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. > > > > Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 > > to 10 to a dorm room? > > > > What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? > > > > Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. > > We purchase our future subjugation. > > > > Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the > > number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of > > America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 > > hours is courtesy of Walmart. > > > > Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of > > living. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" > > wrote: > > > > > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One > > covered Malaysia > > > and how so many companies have left their for China because China > > was even > > > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the > > billions that > > > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > > > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The > > reporter's > > > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > > > > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a > > search on > > > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > > > > > You can also check it out on their website at: > > > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > > > > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff > > that > > > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get > > covered by > > > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they > > attacked the US > > > boat. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was > > on? I'll keep > > > > an eye out for it. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on > > Current tv? > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- > > china-deaths-suicides > > > > > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today > > at an > > > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of > > the world's mobile > > > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were > > bolted into the walls > > > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually > > cover 1.5m square > > > metres. > > > > > > To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the > > Taiwanese > > > electronics company Foxconn â" which works with Apple, Dell > > and Sony â" has > > > also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered > > counselling to its 420,000 > > > employees here. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who > > the bloody > > > >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > >>> > > > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > > >> Mahogany at: > > > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of "iPhone" in this piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not AT&T customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one form of exploitation is better than another. Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, you lower your standard of living. On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 to 10 to a dorm room? What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. We purchase our future subjugation. Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 hours is courtesy of Walmart. Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of living. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One covered Malaysia > and how so many companies have left their for China because China was even > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the billions that > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The reporter's > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a search on > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > You can also check it out on their website at: > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff that > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get covered by > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they attacked the US > boat. > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was on? I'll keep > > an eye out for it. > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on Current tv? > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > >>> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- china-deaths-suicides > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today at an > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of the world's mobile > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were bolted into the walls > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually cover 1.5m square > metres. > > To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the Taiwanese > electronics company Foxconn â€" which works with Apple, Dell and Sony â€" has > also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered counselling to its 420,000 > employees here. > > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody > >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > >> Mahogany at: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >
[scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 to 10 to a dorm room? What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. We purchase our future subjugation. Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 hours is courtesy of Walmart. Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of living. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One covered Malaysia > and how so many companies have left their for China because China was even > cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the billions that > was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and > mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The reporter's > name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. > > There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a search on > China pulled up 403 pages of videos! > > You can also check it out on their website at: > http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ > > One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff that > doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get covered by > them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they attacked the US > boat. > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was on? I'll keep > > an eye out for it. > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on Current tv? > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Why does this NOT surprise me? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > >>> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant-china-deaths-suicides > > Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today at an > industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of the world's > mobile > phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were bolted into the > walls > below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually cover 1.5m square > metres. > > To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the Taiwanese > electronics company Foxconn â" which works with Apple, Dell and Sony > â" has > also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered counselling to its > 420,000 > employees here. > > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody > >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > >> Mahogany at: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >
