Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Baxter 
More than welcome, Keith! And I did much the same with the run after reading
that issue at Publix one afternoon.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Fascinating, thanks! I loved "Planet Hulk", enjoyed the "World War Hulk"
> series, but kind of lost interest after that.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:37:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers"
> Flick
>
>
>
> Keith, banner, since being relieved of his Hulk side, has felt the need to
> vent his still-present rage through the mind games he plays on people. I saw
> in another post that you aren't up on the Son of Hulk storyline, but Banner
> took the kid under his wing, to make him tougher. The trips he put that kid
> through were unbelievable.
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's
>> up with Banner's behaviour?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Martin Baxter" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers"
>> Flick
>>
>>
>>
>> Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great
>> fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the
>> way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were
>> separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games
>> with everyone around him.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who
>>> looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for
>>> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity
>>> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I
>>> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the
>>> "puny Banner" we need.  Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and
>>> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
>>>
>>> Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny
>>> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's
>>> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's
>>> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym.
>>>
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
>>>
>>> So  now I'm hearing they're talking  seriously  to  Joaquin Phoenix.
>>> Which  is both  awesome and frightening at the same time to me.
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
>>>
>>> Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds
>>>  Source: Access 
>>> Hollywood<http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/> Sun
>>> Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT
>>>
>>>
>>> Edward Norton <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634>won't 
>>> be reprising his role as the Incredible
>>> Hulk <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807592188/info/> in 2012's "The
>>> Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to * Access Hollywood * on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision
>>> in a statement to 
>>> *HitFix*<http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/exclusive-marvel-confirms-they-will-hire-new-hulk-for-avengers>
>>> .
>>>
>>> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward 
>>> Norton<http://www.accesshollywood.com/edward-norton_gallery_1430>
>>>
>>> "We have made the decision to not bring Ed 
>>> Norton<http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634>back to portray 
>>> the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige
>>> told the site. "Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary
>>> factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodie

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-14 Thread Keith Johnson 
Fascinating, thanks! I loved "Planet Hulk", enjoyed the "World War Hulk" 
series, but kind of lost interest after that. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:37:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 






Keith, banner, since being relieved of his Hulk side, has felt the need to vent 
his still-present rage through the mind games he plays on people. I saw in 
another post that you aren't up on the Son of Hulk storyline, but Banner took 
the kid under his wing, to make him tougher. The trips he put that kid through 
were unbelievable. 


On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up 
with Banner's behaviour? 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter" < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 









Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great fit for 
Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's 
been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and 
Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around 
him. 


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who looks 
and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. 
Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit 
too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix 
would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the "puny Banner" we 
need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! 
That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. 

Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother 
on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* 
you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the 
sun or the inside of a gym. 

 
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@darylelockhart.com > 

So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both 
awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 

* 




On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: 



Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds 


Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 







Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's "The 
Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. 

Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a 
statement to HitFix . 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton 

"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision is 
definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need 
for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other 
talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as 
part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, 
and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who 
fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the 
coming weeks." 

The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson 
(" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero 
roles in team-up film "The Avengers." 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ 

A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
"purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in discussions 
to return to the role. 

"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," the 
rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and 
said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in '

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Baxter 
Keith, banner, since being relieved of his Hulk side, has felt the need to
vent his still-present rage through the mind games he plays on people. I saw
in another post that you aren't up on the Son of Hulk storyline, but Banner
took the kid under his wing, to make him tougher. The trips he put that kid
through were unbelievable.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson
wrote:

>
>
> I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's
> up with Banner's behaviour?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers"
> Flick
>
>
>
> Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great fit
> for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way
> he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were
> separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games
> with everyone around him.
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who
>> looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for
>> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity
>> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I
>> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the
>> "puny Banner" we need.  Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and
>> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
>>
>> Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny
>> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's
>> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's
>> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym.
>>
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
>>
>> So  now I'm hearing they're talking  seriously  to  Joaquin Phoenix. Which
>>  is both  awesome and frightening at the same time to me.
>>
>> *
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
>>
>> Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds
>>  Source: Access 
>> Hollywood<http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/> Sun
>> Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT
>>
>>
>> Edward Norton <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634>won't be 
>> reprising his role as the Incredible
>> Hulk <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807592188/info/> in 2012's "The
>> Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to * Access Hollywood * on Sunday.
>>
>> Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision
>> in a statement to 
>> *HitFix*<http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/exclusive-marvel-confirms-they-will-hire-new-hulk-for-avengers>
>> .
>>
>> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward 
>> Norton<http://www.accesshollywood.com/edward-norton_gallery_1430>
>>
>> "We have made the decision to not bring Ed 
>> Norton<http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634>back to portray 
>> the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige
>> told the site. "Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary
>> factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the
>> creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The
>> Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as
>> evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our
>> talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these
>> requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks."
>>
>> The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert
>> Downey Jr. <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800010914> (" Iron
>> Man <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411893/info/> "), Chris Hemsworth
>> ("Thor), Chris 
>> Evans<http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1803006988>("Captain 
>> America: The First Avenger"), Samuel
>> L. Jackson <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contribu

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-13 Thread Keith Johnson 
I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up 
with Banner's behaviour? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 






Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great fit for 
Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's 
been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and 
Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around 
him. 


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who looks 
and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. 
Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit 
too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix 
would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the "puny Banner" we 
need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! 
That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. 

Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother 
on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* 
you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the 
sun or the inside of a gym. 

 
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@darylelockhart.com > 

So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both 
awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 

* 




On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: 



Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds 


Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 







Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's "The 
Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. 

Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a 
statement to HitFix . 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton 

"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision is 
definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need 
for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other 
talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as 
part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, 
and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who 
fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the 
coming weeks." 

The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson 
(" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero 
roles in team-up film "The Avengers." 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ 

A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
"purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in discussions 
to return to the role. 

"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," the 
rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and 
said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He 
told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the 
cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that 
Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed 
that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. 
Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which 
Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble 
cast." 

However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond ! 

"Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both 
sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This past Wednesday, 
after several weeks of civil, uncontentiou

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-13 Thread George Arterberry 
The cash is going toward effects. I'm sure Robert Downey Jr. will take % points 
instead of a salary if his agent had half a brain.

I doubt Banner would get much "face-time" in the Avengers movie anyway. More 
like "Hulk come down this semi so we can attack Galactus.





From: Martin Baxter 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 2:18:00 PM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

  
Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the- week", Michael Cera would be a great fit 
for 
Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's 
been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and 
Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around 
him.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:

  
>They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who looks 
>and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. 
>Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit 
>too 
>much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix 
>would 
>come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the "puny Banner" we need.  
>Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! 
>That's 
>the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
>
>Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother 
>on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* 
>you 
>need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun 
>or the inside of a gym.
>
> * * * *
>- Original Message -
>From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
>
>So  now I'm hearing they're talking  seriously  to  Joaquin Phoenix. Which  is 
>both  awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 
>
>
> * * * * *
>
>
>
>On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
>
>Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds
>>Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's 
>>"The 
>>Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday.
>>Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in 
>>a 
>>statement to HitFix.
>>VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton 
>>"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
>>role 
>>of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision is 
>>definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need 
>>for 
>>an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other 
>>talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as 
>>part 
>>of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and 
>>all 
>>of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills 
>>these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming 
>>weeks."
>>The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
>>Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
>>America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett 
>>Johansson 
>>(" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero 
>>roles 
>>in team-up film "The Avengers."
>>VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ 
>>A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
>>"purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in 
>>discussions 
>>to return to the role.
>>"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
>>misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," 
>>the 
>>rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and 
>>said 
>>he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He 
>>told 
>>me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast 
>>at 
>>[Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward 
>>was 
>>definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-13 Thread Martin Baxter 
Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great fit
for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way
he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were
separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games
with everyone around him.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who
> looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for
> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity
> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I
> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the
> "puny Banner" we need.  Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and
> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
>
> Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny
> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's
> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's
> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym.
>
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
>
> So  now I'm hearing they're talking  seriously  to  Joaquin Phoenix. Which
>  is both  awesome and frightening at the same time to me.
>
> *
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
>
> Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds
>  Source: Access 
> Hollywood Sun
> Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT
>
>
> Edward Norton  won't
> be reprising his role as the Incredible 
> Hulkin 2012's "The Avengers," 
> a Marvel rep confirmed to
> * Access Hollywood * on Sunday.
>
> Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision
> in a statement to 
> *HitFix*
> .
>
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward 
> Norton
>
> "We have made the decision to not bring Ed 
> Nortonback to portray 
> the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige
> told the site. "Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary
> factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the
> creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The
> Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as
> evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our
> talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these
> requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks."
>
> The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert
> Downey Jr.  (" Iron
> Man  "), Chris Hemsworth
> ("Thor), Chris 
> Evans("Captain America: 
> The First Avenger"), Samuel
> L. Jackson  (Nick
> Fury), Scarlett 
> Johansson(" Iron
> Man  2's" Black Widow),
> who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film "The
> Avengers."
>
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘
> The
> Incredible Hulk  ’
>
> A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it
> "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in
> discussions to return to the role.
>
> "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully
> misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light,"
> the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me
> and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The
> Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with
> the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention.
> When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very
> excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to
> discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by
> Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of
> being a part of the ensemble cast."
>
> However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week.
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-12 Thread Keith Johnson 
I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. 
Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he 
was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the 
weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul 
who worked very well as Banner in the series. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 






I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not 
have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer 
would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. 


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who looks 
and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. 
Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit 
too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix 
would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the "puny Banner" we 
need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! 
That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. 

Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother 
on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* 
you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the 
sun or the inside of a gym. 

 
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@darylelockhart.com > 

So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both 
awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 

* 




On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: 



Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds 


Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 







Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's "The 
Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. 

Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a 
statement to HitFix . 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton 

"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision is 
definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need 
for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other 
talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as 
part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, 
and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who 
fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the 
coming weeks." 

The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson 
(" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero 
roles in team-up film "The Avengers." 

VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ 

A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
"purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in discussions 
to return to the role. 

"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," the 
rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and 
said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He 
told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the 
cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that 
Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed 
that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. 
Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which 
Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble 
cast." 

However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. 

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"Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both 
sides s

Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick

2010-07-12 Thread Mr. Worf 
I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does
not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think
John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who
> looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for
> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity
> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I
> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the
> "puny Banner" we need.  Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and
> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
>
> Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny
> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's
> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's
> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym.
>
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
>
> So  now I'm hearing they're talking  seriously  to  Joaquin Phoenix. Which
>  is both  awesome and frightening at the same time to me.
>
> *
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
>
> Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds
>  Source: Access 
> Hollywood Sun
> Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT
>
>
> Edward Norton  won't
> be reprising his role as the Incredible 
> Hulkin 2012's "The Avengers," 
> a Marvel rep confirmed to
> * Access Hollywood * on Sunday.
>
> Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision
> in a statement to 
> *HitFix*
> .
>
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward 
> Norton
>
> "We have made the decision to not bring Ed 
> Nortonback to portray 
> the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige
> told the site. "Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary
> factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the
> creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The
> Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as
> evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our
> talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these
> requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks."
>
> The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert
> Downey Jr.  (" Iron
> Man  "), Chris Hemsworth
> ("Thor), Chris 
> Evans("Captain America: 
> The First Avenger"), Samuel
> L. Jackson  (Nick
> Fury), Scarlett 
> Johansson(" Iron
> Man  2's" Black Widow),
> who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film "The
> Avengers."
>
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘
> The
> Incredible Hulk  ’
>
> A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it
> "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in
> discussions to return to the role.
>
> "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully
> misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light,"
> the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me
> and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The
> Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with
> the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention.
> When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very
> excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to
> discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by
> Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of
> being a part of the ensemble cast."
>
> However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week.
>
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond 
> !