[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?

2009-04-20 Thread Jenn
I've been reading a lot of short fiction by Jeffrey Ford lately. Not SciFiNoir 
but it's pretty wonderful cross-genre work. I highly recommend.

Jenn

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote:

 This is supposed to be a SciFiNoir LIT group...is anybody reading 
 ANYTHING...sci fi?
 
 ~rave?





Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?

2009-04-20 Thread Sincere
One other note... word is Universal Pictures bought the rights to Jordan's
works and--in some kind of fantasy fraticidal match-up--there's talk of an
Eye of the World movie set for 2011, same time as The Hobbit sequel. Why
anyone would try to make a movie out of Jordan's epic (which spans 15 books)
is beyond me. Even if they decide to make it animated (which is rumored by
some), it's still way too much to put on a big screen. And given
Jordan's complexity and detail, going to be hard to merge/cut books. Not to
mention the screams of bloody murder that would arise from his fans.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990464.html?categoryid=13cs=1

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jeff Carter mbsj...@gmail.com wrote:



 Um did you say late Robert Jordan?

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 lol

 and i thought it was just me... :)

 I'm reading A New Spring- the Wheel of Time prequel by the late Robert
 Jordan... it's been sitting on my shelf forever, and I finally just picked
 it up and started thumbing through it. Walking through Brooklyn, found a
 copy of RA Salvatore's The Orc King on the stoop of a brownstone--one of
 the
 many tales of Drizzt Do'Urden the dark elf from the Forgotten Realms
 Fantasy
 series. I read the original Drizzt novels (along with the accompanying
 Icewind Dale books) way back as a kid. I didn't keep up with the continuing
 novels or spin-offs. So I have to go on wiki just to catch myself up to
 what
 the heck's been going on. I'm sure tales of the ebon-skinned evil elves
 will get under my own ebon skin as I read... though I always did like the
 storyline. When this semester ends, I might dive into it.

 Sin aka Black Galactus

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  ~rave?
 
 
 

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[SciFiNoir Lit] J.G. Ballard, author of 'Empire of the Sun,' dies at 78

2009-04-20 Thread brent wodehouse
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090419/jg_ballard_090419/20090419?hub=TopStories

J.G. Ballard, author of 'Empire of the Sun,' dies at 78

The Associated Press


LONDON -- Writer J.G. Ballard, best known for the autobiographical novel
Empire of the Sun, which drew on his childhood detention in a Japanese
prison camp in China, died Sunday, his agent said. He was 78.

Ballard was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2006. He had been ill for
several years and died in London at the home of his long-term partner,
his agent Margaret Hanbury said. She did not give the cause of death.

His acute and visionary observation of contemporary life was distilled
into a number of brilliant, powerful novels which have been published all
over the world and saw Ballard gain cult status, Hanbury said.

Ballard was born in Shanghai, China, and was interned there in a prison
camp by Japanese troops in 1941 -- an experience he drew on in the 1984
novel Empire of the Sun, later adapted as a film by U.S. director Steven
Spielberg.

The writer moved to Britain in 1946, where he lived until his death.

Ballard was sometimes controversial. His 1973 novel Crash, which
explored contentious themes about people who derive pleasure from car
accidents, was made into a film by David Cronenberg in 1996.

J.G. Ballard has been a giant on the world literary scene for more than
50 years, Hanbury said.

Following his early novels of the 60s and 70s, his work then reached a
wider audience with the publication of Empire of the Sun in 1984, which
won several prizes and was made into a film, she said.

The book told the story of a young boy living through Japanese occupation
of Shanghai, detailing his struggle and complex emotions toward the
invading forces.

I have -- I won't say happy -- not unpleasant memories of the camp. I
remember a lot of the casual brutality and beatings-up that went on, but
at the same time we children were playing a hundred and one games all the
time! Ballard once said of his childhood internment.

Born James Graham Ballard, the author was a sharp critic of modern
politics, who once mocked the West's search for near mythical weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq, in the buildup to the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

Ballard focused heavily in his work on what he saw as the negative effect
on mankind of advancing technology and rejected the belief that humans can
constantly improve themselves.

Ballard often portrayed social and technological developments as adding to
a sense of human worthlessness, rather than aiding the progression of
mankind.

The enlightenment view of mankind is a complete myth. It leads us into
thinking we're sane and rational creatures most of the time, and we're
not, Ballard said in a 2003 interview with Australian newspaper, the Age.

Ballard was educated at Cambridge University and served as a British Royal
Air Force pilot before working as a writer.

He revealed in a January 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed in 2006
with advanced prostate cancer.

Ballard married Helen Matthews in 1954. She died in 1964. He is survived
by their three children.

There was no immediate word on funeral plans.



[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: OT: Best African American Fiction 2009

2009-04-20 Thread ravenadal
I contend this argument, though factual, is disingenuous.  If we were 
discussing Italian-American literature or German-American literature or 
Irish-American literature the absurdity of including Central and South American 
writers in that survey would be self-evident.  

Let me reiterate that expanding the definition of what constitutes an 
African-American writer harms rather than helps those writers of color who 
write about the unique African-American experience. 

If you are going to publish a pan-American book, call it what it is.  

~(no)rave!

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, md_moore42 md_moor...@... wrote:

 Wait---don't the Americas include  both South and North America and this 
 entire side of the globe?  
 
 I think that I had this same discussion on Neil Gaiman's website about the 
 American center being located in the center of American midwest (in American 
 Gods). We aren't the center of the Americas.  And Black folk live in both 
 North and South America.
 
 
 --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
 
  I understand the premise that slave ships also stopped in Puerto Rico and 
  that the Dominican Republic shares the island of Hispaniola with Haiti but 
  while Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of America, the Dominican Republic is 
  not.  So while immigrant Diaz can be construed as a Dominican-American 
  writer or even a Pan-American writer, he is not an African-American writer. 
   Once again, while I acknowledge Diaz is a fine writer, his inclusion 
  dilutes the very notion of African-American writing.  And, when editors 
  feel the need to broaden the category it fosters the erroneous notion that 
  there aren't enough real African-American authors to include in such an 
  anthology.
  
  ~(no) rave!
  
  --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden belsidus2000@ wrote:
  
   I have read Oscar Wao - I highly recommend it - and I have met the 
   author, Junot Diaz, 
   
   (I agree on both counts.  I met Junot too when he had put out Drown.  
   Cool cat.  Down to earth.  Go hear him read.
   
   but I am confused as to why an excerpt from this book is included in the 
   best African-American Fiction of 2009. 
   
   (I suspect that Messrs. Early and Harris are trying to broaden the 
   definition of what is African American--a stance which I agree with.
   
   Junot is Dominican American and, like Puerto Ricans, there is a strong 
   African strain in their blood lines.
   
   I may direct a query to them.  Harris, anyway.  Gerald Early is one of 
   the most paranoid Negroes alive and never responds to any queries.  He 
   lives and works right here in St. Louis, by the way.
   
   Maybe he is scared of St. Louis Negroes.  There is good reason.
   
   Maybe he knows something we don't)
   
   --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
   
   
  
 





Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?

2009-04-20 Thread ravenadal
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:
  
What are you reading?


I am reading Alan Moore's graphic novel Watchmen (and enjoying the hell out 
of it) and the Octavian Nothing duology (I adore the language).  Although the 
two Octavian Nothing books take place in pre revolutionary America, they are 
about a preternaturally gifted young black slave plopped into a strange new 
world and his first person account of trying to rationally navigate that 
maddingly contradictory world.

~rave!

http://theworldebon.blogspot.com




[SciFiNoir Lit] Big Big Sky trailer

2009-04-20 Thread ravenadal
I really, really wanted Kristyn Dunnion to be black (Nalo Hopkinson is the 
editor) and she really, really isn't.  But what the heck, I'm putting this on 
my wish list, anyway.

~rave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B1c5KVxZlw

http://www.umanitoba.ca/cm/vol14/no19/bigbigsky.html





[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: OT: Best African American Fiction 2009

2009-04-20 Thread Chaeya
 (I suspect that Messrs. Early and Harris are trying to broaden the definition 
 of what is African American--a stance which I agree with.

I also agree.  I just wouldn't have the heart to exclude Black people from the 
islands simply because the U.S. hasn't gotten around to owning them yet.  I 
don't think it lessens the African-American experience and I'm of the more the 
merrier frame of mind.  The mutt and misfit in me just can't help but bend the 
rules whenever I can.

Chaeya



[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?

2009-04-20 Thread Chaeya
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote:

 I LOVE Childhood's End!  The fact that the last man on earth, astronaut Jan 
 Rodricks, was a black man (as was his sister who Clarke describes as the most 
 beautiful woman in the world) really rocked my world back in my sane and 
 sober youth.  I believe Rodricks was the first black person I encountered in 
 a sci-fi novel (outside of Ray Bradbury's black Martians in The Other Foot 
 from his collection, The Illustrated Man).  This book had a profound effect 
 on me.
 
 ~rave!  

Thanks for reminding me about that.  I have a list of older sci-fi I want to 
re-read because I was either too young or just forgot about it.  Some books 
manage to stay with me like Brave New World and Contact.  But even had I 
remembered them, I still think they're worth reading again.

Chaeya



[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: OT: Best African American Fiction 2009

2009-04-20 Thread md_moore42
Hear!Hear!
We really need to stop being so insular.


--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chaeya cha...@... wrote:

  (I suspect that Messrs. Early and Harris are trying to broaden the 
  definition of what is African American--a stance which I agree with.
 
 I also agree.  I just wouldn't have the heart to exclude Black people from 
 the islands simply because the U.S. hasn't gotten around to owning them yet.  
 I don't think it lessens the African-American experience and I'm of the more 
 the merrier frame of mind.  The mutt and misfit in me just can't help but 
 bend the rules whenever I can.
 
 Chaeya