Re: [scots-l] Re: Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music

2001-01-08 Thread Derek Hoy

Toby asked:
> > >   Martyn Bennett would probably do it if he knew Gaelic. :-)
> > 
> > Ummm. Toby, I believe he does. So Let's pass on the suggestion.
> > 
> 
>   Isn't Martyn from the Lowlands?

Think his mum's a native speaker (Dr Margaret).
Doubt if Martyn was allowed to grow up without some exposure.

Derek
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[scots-l] BBC Radio Scotland now streaming

2001-01-08 Thread Derek Hoy

BBC Radio Scotland used to stream selected progs, like the fitba for exiled 
punters.  Now you can get the whole thing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioscotland/

Competition for Radio Toby- how will he respond?  Mp3s of Jack on his turkish 
saucepan?  (What is that instrument Jack?)

Derek
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[scots-l] Mrs. Garden of Troup

2001-01-08 Thread Toby Rider

I started formulating an idea for a wicked good F set this morning
while driving to the office. One of the tunes I'm going to do is Mrs.
Garden of Troup. I know the tune is by Robert Petrie, however more
intriguing is the question "where is Troup"?  I found some historical
references to a Scottish immigrant Lachlan MacGillvray, he was the
founder of Troup County in Georgia. Anyone know where Troup is?


Toby
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Re: [scots-l] BBC Radio Scotland now streaming

2001-01-08 Thread Toby Rider

Derek Hoy wrote:
> 
> BBC Radio Scotland used to stream selected progs, like the fitba for exiled
> punters.  Now you can get the whole thing.
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioscotland/
> 
> Competition for Radio Toby- how will he respond?  Mp3s of Jack on his turkish
> saucepan?  (What is that instrument Jack?)
> 


I'll focus on noncommercial recordings of great players that most
people have never heard of :-)


Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Trad. Music

2001-01-08 Thread Toby Rider

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am coming out of "lurking mode" to compliment Toby on his Internet station
> for traditional music. Good selections, especially those from Cape Breton and
> with Gaelic singing!

Thank you very much, funny you should mention the Gaelic singing.
Someone earlier emailed me privately and griped "Why so much Gaelic ??".
Then someone else emailed me saying "Why so much stuff from Scotland ?
Who are The Old Blind Dogs ??", then someone emailed me asking "Why so
much Cape Breton stuff, how about some variety dude !" then someone
emailed me saying "Who are all these musicians that I've never heard
of?", then someone else emailed saying "Thank you for giving some lesser
known artists exposure." 
Sigh.. So it just goes to show that you can't please everyone even half
of the time!

Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music

2001-01-08 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Derek Hoy wrote:

> ...Think [Martyn Bennet's] mum's a native speaker [of Gaelic]...
> Doubt if Martyn was allowed to grow up without some exposure...

That explains a good deal. ;->

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Scottish Music Pages:   
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/scottish/index.html

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[scots-l] Re: Martyn Bennett and Gaelic

2001-01-08 Thread George Seto

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:45:59 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [scots-l] Re: Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
> 
> > >   Martyn Bennett would probably do it if he knew Gaelic. :-)
> > 
> > Ummm. Toby, I believe he does. So Let's pass on the suggestion.
> 
>   Isn't Martyn from the Lowlands?

Well, actually, he might. However, his mother is Margaret Bennett, who
is a speaker of the Gaelic, and I think may have, grown up with it. 


> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:37 + (GMT Standard Time)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek Hoy)
> Subject: Re: [scots-l] Re: Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
> 
> > Isn't Martyn from the Lowlands?
> 
> Think his mum's a native speaker (Dr Margaret).
> Doubt if Martyn was allowed to grow up without some exposure.

Yes, Doctor Margaret Bennett has the Gaelic, and has written several
books on the subject of cultures which have the Gaelic and is
losing/have lost it. Newfoundland's Codroy Bay and also a similar
locale in Quebec. 

Bidh mi 'gad fhaicinn!!!

 <   Gum bi thu beo\ ann an a\m u\idheil.  >
 George / Seo\ras Seto
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Re: [scots-l] Mrs. Garden of Troup

2001-01-08 Thread stan reeves


-- 
 AY STAN

--
   Anyone know where Troup is?
Troup head is a headland out into the north sea between Banff and
Fraserburgh on the borders of Banff and Buchan counties. Its the headland
forming the west side of Pennan bay which is where they filmed "Local Hero".
Perhaps Mrs Garden was having it away with the composer and used to phone
him from there? The next town is Gardenstown, so obviously she was a local
bigheidit toff, who the composer was trying to sook up to in hope of
currying favour and getting a few bob, in the grand auld scots style. It was
composed by Robert Petrie(1767-1830) of Kirkmicheal not far fae Moulin,
Perthshire. Who are the Gardens? Is Neville one of them? We should be
told!--
 AY STAN

>
>
> Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Martyn Bennett and Gaelic

2001-01-08 Thread Toby Rider

George Seto wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:45:59 -0800
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [scots-l] Re: Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
> >
> > > >   Martyn Bennett would probably do it if he knew Gaelic. :-)
> > >
> > > Ummm. Toby, I believe he does. So Let's pass on the suggestion.
> >
> >   Isn't Martyn from the Lowlands?
> 
> Well, actually, he might. However, his mother is Margaret Bennett, who
> is a speaker of the Gaelic, and I think may have, grown up with it.
> 

Uh oh, so the possibility of Martyn Bennett rapping in Gaelic could be
a reality, if he felt so inclined.  I meant that as a joke too! :-)

Toby
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[scots-l] Mrs. Garden

2001-01-08 Thread Toby Rider

Stan,

The message tried to come over attached, can just provide the URL where
you found the photo? Thanks!

Toby

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:13:49 -0800

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found a photo of troup. Mrs Garden wrote an intro to Hoggs poems
published
by Walter Scott. The Gardens
--
 AY STAN
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Re: [scots-l] James MacIntosh, Dunkeld

2001-01-08 Thread wayne

Nigel,
  Here is an excerpt from a book I have called, "The Scots Fiddle-  tunes,
tales,& traditions of the North-East & Central Highlands", written by J.
Murray Neil.

James Macintosh
The celebrated Macintosh family of Inver produced no less than 6 fiddler's
of note, during 3 generations.  Three were called Charles.   The remaining 3
were; James Macintosh, senior, 1791-1879, his sister May, and Donald.
  James  was the second generation of the family.  His father who came from
a glen in atholl, was a contemporary, neighbor, and friend of Niel Gow.  He
played in Niel's band, along with Peter Murray, another lifelong friend of
Gow.
  Like his brother Charles Macintosh, he received tuition on the fiddle from
Niel Gow. He started life as a joiner, but gave it up when he was invited to
join Niel's sons in Edinburgh, to play in their celebrated string band
called the Reel players of Scotland.  Which consisted of up to 20 players,
and which was engaged to play at functions up and down the length of the
country.  He built up fine reputation as a music teacher in Edinburgh and
also composed a number of tunes which were published in Joseph Lowe's Royal
collection of Reels, Strathspeys, Jigs etc.  circa 1840



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Re: [scots-l] BBC Radio Scotland now streaming

2001-01-08 Thread Jack Campin

> BBC Radio Scotland used to stream selected progs, like the fitba for
> exiled punters.  Now you can get the whole thing.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioscotland/
> Competition for Radio Toby- how will he respond?

Do they work with the same software?  Unfortunately I doubt I can
listen to either of them with the geriatric machinery I have here.
Since they're in different timezones we just need another station
in Australia and we could stream Scottish music 24 hours a day?

> Mp3s of Jack on his turkish saucepan?  (What is that instrument Jack?)

It's a cumbus (needs letters not in ISO-Latin-1; pronounced joomboosh).
A banjoized proletarian version of the ud, invented in the 1920s for the
Turkish equivalent of the ceilidh band; twelve strings in six courses,
tuned A,DEAdg - the bottom two courses act as drones, the upper four as
melody strings.  A fretless formica fingerboard and a body that looks
like a rice steamer.  Its sound is between a banjo and a wire harp, i.e.
amazingly long sustain.  I've also got a very old small one (intended
for school use?) which I don't think you've seen; it's got a less over-
powering sound.  I haven't been doing much with either of them lately.
I must assemble a set on it for a turn at the local accordion & fiddle
club.

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