Re: [scots-l] Re: Annie Gilchrist
In a message dated 09/08/04 23:59:44 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, any
help...direction...a book reference...an obscure website...would be
appreciated. I don't even know her dates or where she lived.
Thank you!
--Cynthia Cathcart
www.CynthiaCathcart.net
Basically she was a Folk Song collector to quote the first page of the first link below :
The English Folk Dance and Song Society was formed in 1932 by the merger of two organisations, the Folk Song Society and the English Folk Dance Society formed by Cecil Sharp in 1911.The Folk Song Society, founded in 1898, was the outcome of a number of individual folk song collectors and enthusiasts who wanted to share their experience and improve the quality of collecting and publishing. No geographical limit was set to the Society's activities, and although the main interest were the folk songs of Britain and Ireland, the Journal of the Folk Song Society published articles from other countries as well.From 1904, the Folk Song Society became the focus of the new breed of folksong collectors, led by Cecil Sharp, including Ralph Vaughan Williams, George Butterworth, George Gardiner, Henry Hammond, Annie Gilchrist and Ella Leather, and the Journal published songs from this 'golden age' of folksong collecting.
Here's a few links to help you on your way - but the first one answers the "Who was she" question!
Bev Lawton
History of the English Folk Dance and Song Society (EFDSS)
by Cecil Sharp, including Ralph Vaughan Williams, George Butterworth, George Gardiner, Henry Hammond, Annie Gilchrist and Ella Leather, and...
http://www.efdss.org/history.htm
... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html
... Includes an essay on life in Skye by Tolmie and a note on the modal system of Gaelic songs by Annie G. Gilchrist. GAELIC CULTURE. GrÃinne Yeats. ...
http://www.shsa.org/comp/hist.html
See also Annie G. Gilchrist, Journal of the Folk-Song Society 4 (1910), 52-66 [associates the poem with the grail legend ...
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/chans78.htm
... See also Annie G. Gilchrist, Journal of the Folk-Song Society 4 (1910), 52-66 [associates the poem with the grail legend]; Greene, "The Meaning of the Corpus ...
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/chansnts.htm
English Folk Song Bibliography. by. David Atkinson. Preface. 1. Revivals. 2. Collecting and fieldwork. 3. Singers and their songs. 4. Song and ballad research. 4.1. Approaches to folk song and balladry. 4.2. The music of folk songs and ballads. 4.3.
http://www.efdss.org/songbib.htm
... a 'Note on the Modal system of Gaelic Tunes' by Annie G. Gilchrist. With English translation and music in Staff notation ...
http://www.gaelicscottish.com/docs/g_music.htm
... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html
...by A. G. Gilchrist in 1907, and published with tune in JFSS 19, p. 156 (1915). Tune is also that for the Scots "Drumdelgie". Gilchrist notes...
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5043
... Nation. A G. Gilchrist. Carvals. Any comments, errors or omissions gratefully received The Editor HTML Transcription  F.Coakley , 2000.
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/music/carvals.htm
... VIII.3), 1929, 137-141, where A.G. Gilchrist gives a ...
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?SongID=5683
... Letter of British Ambassador to Dublin, A.G. Gilchrist 2.10.1969 ...
http://www.sluggerotoole.com/home/archives/003664.asp
... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html
... and critical perspectives, including features on several of the prime movers â Sabine Baring-Gould, Frank Kidson, Lucy Broadwood, Annie Gilchrist, Gavin Greig ...
http://www.tradsong.freeserve.co.uk/FSTRR.htm
THE SACRED HARP. American Shape Note Hymns ... 4] and the version of "The Gentleman Soldier" collected by Annie Gilchrist in Sussex in 1907 ...
http://www.geocities.com/ferretpublications/art02shp.html
... in the different versions of "The Two Sisters" was tackled by Annie Gilchrist in an article in Folk Song Journal 1931: ...
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart686.htm
... Annie Gilchrist in the Journal of the English Folk Dance and Song Society 1932 distinguished two tune pathways one ...
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart679a.htm
1THE SACRED HARPAmerican Shape Note HymnsCross the Atlanticby Lewis Jones1In the Winter of 1994 "English Dance and Song" carried an article by Gordon Ashman. ... similarity between "Leander"4 and theversion of "The Gentlem
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
Steve, I would like to get your collection. If there is a charge please let me know. Mary Umbager Harmony, NC ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/10/04 05:37:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete Hmm, doesn't look like my earlier message got through to the list so I'll try again: I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll send to anyone on the list who wants it. This one has 70 tunes, a number of which have never been reprinted. -Steve -- Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
Hi Steve I would appreciate it if you could send a copy to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks Ross Flowers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Wyrick Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:35 PM To: Scots-L Subject: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete Hmm, doesn't look like my earlier message got through to the list so I'll try again: I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll send to anyone on the list who wants it. This one has 70 tunes, a number of which have never been reprinted. -Steve -- Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
Is that the same abc file you announced in June, or is this an update? > Hmm, doesn't look like my earlier message got through to the list so I'll > try again: > > I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert > Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll > send to anyone on the list who wants it. This one has 70 tunes, a number > of > which have never been reprinted. -Steve > -- > Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California > > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: Annie Gilchrist
Are the complete Journals of EFDSS available, say as printout-able microfilm (as available, for instance, from University Microfilms International--umi.com). Thanks very much. Cliff Abrams Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
> Grrr... My apologies for sending 'private' mail to the list... I hate it > when that happens! For your penance, you must play "The Mathematician" 15 times through while standing on one leg. http://www.danmozell.com/d-mozell.htm Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
Curses! I knew something like this would happen... At 06:56 AM 8/10/2004, you wrote: > Grrr... My apologies for sending 'private' mail to the list... I hate it > when that happens! For your penance, you must play "The Mathematician" 15 times through while standing on one leg. http://www.danmozell.com/d-mozell.htm Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Grrr... My apologies for sending 'private' mail to the list... I hate it > > when that happens! > > > For your penance, you must play "The Mathematician" 15 times through while > standing on one leg. I assume that's at double time as well, eh? Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: Annie Gilchrist
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Cynthia Cathcart wrote: > expect it, I can't *find* anything when I go to look for her. So, any > help...direction...a book reference...an obscure website...would be > appreciated. I don't even know her dates or where she lived. I found that a search with Google's Advanced Search, using "Gilchrist" in the ALL block and in the Exact Phrase Block "Journal of the Folk Song Society", will elicit many items giving citations of Annie Geddes Gilchrist articles in the Journal. Also, you might try putting in JFSS or JFDSS(after they amalgamated with the Dance Society) . I thought the most interesting was what she said about the First Nowell, in this url: http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/first_nowell.htm Lots of wonderful reading. Thanks Cynthia for reminding us of this wonderful person. Bidh mi 'gad fhaicinn!!! IWK Children's Hospital Telethon - June 5th & 6th, 2004 $4.19 Million for 2004 - Can we do better? I bet!! < Thig Ar Latha. > George / Seo\ras Seto e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Main e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Alternate - Large Files url: http://www.geocities.com/george_seto.geo | My stuff url: http://www.corvuscorax.org:8080/~gseto/creighton | Helen Creighton Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Annie Gilchrist
Thank you, Bev, for the links. I have done a websearch and while a couple of your links look familiar, I'm going to look at them ALL to see if you uncovered any jewels that I missed. Thank you for your time involved in pulling together that list for me. I am hopeful there is not a lot of repeated information, something that is so frustrating on the internet. Plagiarism abounds. It seems that some sites are nothing more than someone cutting and pasting from others. Lots and lots of "hits" but all with the same meager sentence. And then there are the websites that get included in your search but when you go there, the word you searched isn't even on the page. I can't quite figure that one out, but it's very frustrating. Does anyone else feel this way? Please tell me I'm not alone. Maybe I need to find a search engine other than "google." In part answer to Clif's question, I have found that some of old the Journals of the various Folk and Dance Societies are available, but you must be willing to dig. The Tolmie collection I wrote about earlier is available from Llanerch Publishers. I bought it on Skye a few years ago where I found it, of all places, on a news-stand. (An experience you'll not have in the States.) Other times I have found I could get some journals via inter-library loan, usually only to be viewed at your local library, not to take home. You can often photocopy, or nowadays I take my husband's digital camera and snap away. Alternatively, if you know the volume and page you want, all you need to do is find a library that holds the journal and ask for a copy of the page. I'll admit I've not heard of University Microfilms, which Clif mentioned. I guess we'll have to check them out. --Cynthia Cathcart www.CynthiaCathcart.net Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Annie Gilchrist
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Cynthia Cathcart wrote: > take home. You can often photocopy, or nowadays I take my husband's digital > camera and snap away. Alternatively, if you know the volume and page you I recently saw a product review for a wand type page scanner. It's designed to be stand alone, and you can store a number of pages in it, and then upload, via USB? to a computer for OCR or storage as a graphic. It's called the DocuPen http://www.docupen.com/ Sounds ideal for people who need to "snap" a copy of a page. Bidh mi 'gad fhaicinn!!! IWK Children's Hospital Telethon - June 5th & 6th, 2004 $4.19 Million for 2004 - Can we do better? I bet!! < Gum bi thu beo\ ann an a\m u\idheil. > George / Seo\ras Seto e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Main e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Alternate - Large Files url: http://www.geocities.com/george_seto.geo | My stuff url: http://www.corvuscorax.org:8080/~gseto/creighton | Helen Creighton Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Annie Gilchrist (Scanning)
Hand-held scanners are usually not very good. If you are considering getting one, test it first. See: www.scantips.com for excellent, accurate, non-commercial information. CA --- George Seto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Cynthia Cathcart wrote: > > > take home. You can often photocopy, or nowadays I > take my husband's digital > > camera and snap away. Alternatively, if you know > the volume and page you > > I recently saw a product review for a wand type page > scanner. It's > designed to be stand alone, and you can store a > number of pages in it, > and then upload, via USB? to a computer for OCR or > storage as a > graphic. It's called the DocuPen > > http://www.docupen.com/ > > Sounds ideal for people who need to "snap" a copy of > a page. > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Annie Gilchrist (Scanning)
At 12:16 PM 8/10/04, you wrote: Hand-held scanners are usually not very good. I don't know anything about hand-held scanners. I use a digital camera I bought for Eric this Christmas past. If I get the right desk in the library (you need lots of light) I can just take a photograph. I got the idea from a librarian at the Library of Congress. He told of a publisher who was coming into the collection to photograph the entire original publications of Beethoven's String Quartets (as I recall) with the idea of eventually making them available again for purchase. Eric's camera certainly isn't as nice as this publisher's...I just take snap-shots and then load them onto my laptop and take it home. Saves on hand-writing notes for one, and also cuts down on the expense at the photocopier. I also feel much better, with these delicate old books, to just take a photo as I gently hold the book open, rather than forcing the book to lie flat on a photocopier screen. One book I was working with, the librarian in charge made it clear that it was *not* to be subjected to abuse at the photocopy machine, so I feel lucky that the camera worked. (She even held the book for me, it was that brittle). But you're right, Clif, this isn't a high-quality image. Just enough so I can read the text and make out the music. BTW, in case anyone is wondering, I don't photocopy from in-print books, (I far prefer to purchase those to add to my collection!) If the book is out of print and unavailable, but still under copyright, I restrict how much copying I do to just a page or two for research purposes. If more is needed, I have found that merely asking permission often works. One time Warner Brothers gave me permission to copy an entire music book that has been out of print since 1973 for no fee at all. I had to sign a permission letter and print a copyright notice on each page of the copy, plus the copies are only for my personal use, but that's all I needed. --Cynthia Cathcart www.CynthiaCathcart.net Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Untitled Ossian Reel - ID?
Anyone know what this tune is? X:712 T:Untitled Reel D:Ossian, Dove Across the Water Z:Nigel Gatherer M:4/4 L:1/8 K:Em ef | g2 fgagfa | gefg dB B2| g2 fgagfa | gefd e2 :| eg | dB B/B/B dBdg | dB B/B/B cA A/A/A | dB B/B/B dBdf | gefd e2 :| -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete
No Dan, this is a different one altogether. I think the June message referred to the 1st collection, probably the version that includes the bass line. Petrie published 4 tunebooks in all; I'm slowly working my way through these... I think I've responded to everyone who has asked for a copy so far; if there's anyone who asked who I haven't got back to, please let me know. -Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is that the same abc file you announced in June, or is this an update? > >> Hmm, doesn't look like my earlier message got through to the list so I'll >> try again: >> >> I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert >> Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll >> send to anyone on the list who wants it. -- Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
