RE: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Here's how i see it, Dan doesn't sing that much anymore >because of the >conflict with Jeremys christianity. Dan Horner has always been >the one who >speaks mostly for SDRE its not just this album. If any of you >guys would read >past interviews it was dan doing most of the >talking...But for this >album i believe it was pretty much split...Jeremy doesn't go >right out there >and say it, but there are some christian referances on some >songs.I also >have a question?? was the agreement that sdre would get back >together only if >Jeremy wasn't soo upfront about His faith in Jesus? If anyone >can help me >with that question that would be great.. > was there an "agreement" to the reunion? if so, i would assume it was something as simple as "i agree to get the band back together only if we kick lots of ass" or something like that. really, he was never very "upfront" about the jesus stuff in the fist place. there is some stuff on lp2, but that was after the band had effectively split up. and as far as dan being the offended party, i thought it was more of a nate and will thing; that is what i got from reading jeremy's letter that is still posted on subpop that he wrote after the break up. i could be wrong, i haven't read it in a long time. -jason. ___ **this message brought to you by: jason d. sheets email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560 (recently updated!) album of the day: weezer - "pinkerton" "That Sheets boy...no damn good."
Re: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
Here's how i see it, Dan doesn't sing that much anymore because of the conflict with Jeremys christianity. Dan Horner has always been the one who speaks mostly for SDRE its not just this album. If any of you guys would read past interviews it was dan doing most of the talking...But for this album i believe it was pretty much split...Jeremy doesn't go right out there and say it, but there are some christian referances on some songs.I also have a question?? was the agreement that sdre would get back together only if Jeremy wasn't soo upfront about His faith in Jesus? If anyone can help me with that question that would be great.. with Loving kindness matthew
RE: [sdre-l]: SDRE Sales!
> Eithe rway I'm sure SDRE, at 15,000 x 15$ = 225,000$, isn't complaining. > Or maybe they are, I dunno. :) Oh, if only it were that easy. It's more along the lines of 15,000 x $15 = $225,000 - (record store overhead) - (distributor overhead) - (BIG kickback by record company since it's a major) = Only about 5-15% of the original amount. Although, SDRE hardly seems a band interested in doing it for the money, and I'm sure, in the end, they'll make quite a sum since their bound to sell far more than 15,000 records. -josh.
RE: [sdre-l]: RE: Lawrence show
> >Someone out there taped the Lawrence show from the 26th. Are >you on this >list? If so, please get ahold of me. I have a ton of stuff to trade. > >Chris > same here! well, except the tons of stuff to trade. i do have "tons" of money though. i think the bottleneck tapes shows, but i'm not sure if they sell them or anything. i was talking to the video guy but for some reson didn't even think to ask how i could get a copy. seriously, if you have a video of that show, or the show in february 1999, please get in touch. thanks, jason. ___ **this message brought to you by: jason d. sheets email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560 (recently updated!) album of the day: modest mouse - "the moon and antarctica" "That Sheets boy...no damn good."
RE: [sdre-l]: SDRE Sales!
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Sheets,Jason wrote: >From what I understand, that's store sales. It may also include Interne sales as well. There's a seperate "Internet Sales" charts as well but if they have a chart for Internet sales, I dont' see why thy wouldn't incorporate that into the overall sales. Show sales I doubt are included, because they'd be hard to track...but I doubt that given the venues they are playing at, it'd be enough to move them up much (eg difference between Deftones and SDRE is just huge!), as well given other artists are also out there selling show records. I don't know how much the Bottleneck in Lawrence (that's where they played right?) holds either! :) Eithe rway I'm sure SDRE, at 15,000 x 15$ = 225,000$, isn't complaining. Or maybe they are, I dunno. :) > does that account for all sales, or just ones made in actual stores and > online? > > i ask because i think nearly 3/4 of the people at the show in lawrence > bought a copy of the cd (from what i could tell by people carrying around > the cd), and many of those 3/4 also bought the vinyl. would the billboard > stats account for that sales at the shows? > > i'm guessing the real number is quite a bit larger :-) > > -jason. > > > >From: L.D. Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Everybody's favourite band, Sunny Day, sold a bit more than > >15,000 copies > >during it's first week of sales to land at position #98 on the > >Billboard > >top 200. > > > > ___ > **this message brought to you by: > > jason d. sheets > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560 (recently updated!) > album of the day: sunny day real estate - "the rising tide" > "That Sheets boy...no damn good." > > * "The coast is clear! Lance Ferris* [EMAIL PROTECTED]* (Tides rush in, Psychology * pull us farther undertow) McMaster University * - Cursive
Re: [sdre-l]: SDRE Sales!
they're at 97 now...right behind phish Dan T. On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, L.D. Ferris wrote: > > Everybody's favourite band, Sunny Day, sold a bit more than 15,000 copies > during it's first week of sales to land at position #98 on the Billboard > top 200. > > Incidentally, Deftones did 178,000, debuting at position #3. > > > > > > * "The coast is clear! > Lance Ferris * > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * (Tides rush in, > Psychology* pull us farther undertow) > McMaster University * - Cursive > >
[sdre-l]: RE: Lawrence show
Someone out there taped the Lawrence show from the 26th. Are you on this list? If so, please get ahold of me. I have a ton of stuff to trade. Chris
Re: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
One quick thing -- let's not forget that much of the pink album was written around the time that diary was written. Songs like 8 and rodeo jones are some of SDRE's earliest. Though the j'nuh lyrics are defintely by Jeremy because he said that he wrote them about a stuffed monkey. xoxo, Mike
RE: [sdre-l]: SDRE Sales!
does that account for all sales, or just ones made in actual stores and online? i ask because i think nearly 3/4 of the people at the show in lawrence bought a copy of the cd (from what i could tell by people carrying around the cd), and many of those 3/4 also bought the vinyl. would the billboard stats account for that sales at the shows? i'm guessing the real number is quite a bit larger :-) -jason. >From: L.D. Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Everybody's favourite band, Sunny Day, sold a bit more than >15,000 copies >during it's first week of sales to land at position #98 on the >Billboard >top 200. > ___ **this message brought to you by: jason d. sheets email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560 (recently updated!) album of the day: sunny day real estate - "the rising tide" "That Sheets boy...no damn good."
[sdre-l]: OK... last call Chicago fans...
This may come too late, but I have one extra Chicago ticket for sale at face value (it may be alittle higher, because I paid with a surcharge ((tips accepted too!!))) I have to leave before one o'clock (which I think is noon in Chicago time) but if someone could e-mail me privately before then, then you can have it. I will be at the show tonight wearing a ridiclously tight bright blue polo style shirt with a little white Boys Choir logo on the upper right hand side... if you see me there, (I should be standing outside either directly in front of the door, or acrossed the street if it's that type of place (I've never been there...)) then you can come up to me and just ask for it -I'll give it to whoever e-mails or sees me there first. I don't want to scalp them though, because that's silly. I guess the show sold out, so I'm sure I'll see quite a few of you there! Have a glorious night if I don't see you anyway! Daniel F. Wier "Don't tell me you've gone astray..." I was just listening to ROTFQ in my car and singing along... I can't wait to see that boy doing it in person!
[sdre-l]: SDRE Sales!
Everybody's favourite band, Sunny Day, sold a bit more than 15,000 copies during it's first week of sales to land at position #98 on the Billboard top 200. Incidentally, Deftones did 178,000, debuting at position #3. * "The coast is clear! Lance Ferris* [EMAIL PROTECTED]* (Tides rush in, Psychology * pull us farther undertow) McMaster University * - Cursive
[sdre-l]: stolen equipment?
it wasn't sunny day OR son volt OR sonic youth who had their equipment stolen ...it was me. yah...it sucked...but its all better now. in fact, it turns out it wasnt even actually stolen, i just never had any equipment in the first place...so...thanks for the concern everyone, but im okay. *imitating the dogpuppet from conan* "but seriously folks, seriously..." this is me being confused. i bought my tickets to [EMAIL PROTECTED]<-not actual address...just me being facetious!] and when i originally searched for them...my screen said "sdre with special guest- noknife" then, later...AFTER i had bought my ticketi checked those tickets AGAIN for a friend...and my screen changed its story. it said "sdre". with no mention of noknife! and the show at the troubador, which had previously just said "sdre", NOW said..."sdre with special guest noknife" nowi dont want to be a babybut *whining* i really wanted to see noknife! (not that sunnyday isnt enough for me...) but honestly...i had my little grinch heart set on it...are there certain shows that noknife is NOT playing with sdre? *affecting voice of john henson* thanks everybody! *resuming normal voice* l o r e a l l e Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
The FAQ says that both Enigk and Hoerner wrote the lyrics to Diary. At the bottom of each page in the insert, it says lyrics.enigk/hoerner or vice versa supposedly meaning who wrote the lyrics and who wrote the music respectively. >From this, it looks like Dan had a couple songs by him but the majority are Enigk's. On The style on LP2 is very similar to that of Diary so I would guess Enigk wrote most of those too (on LP2, there are also references to Christianity which obviously acknowledge Enigk as the writer). And it is my guess, since Dan has been in many interviews explaining the meanings to TRT, that he wrote the lyrics to this album. OR: it is too early in the morning and I am rambling and my eyes are to hazy to even read the screen. - Steve
Re: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
OK here it is for all those who want to know about the Lyrics Jeremy and Dan wrote the lyrics to diaryJeremy wrote most of the lyrics.When Jeremy was "rebirthed" and became a christian Dan stop writing the lyrics...If you notice on the pink album Jeremy talks a lot about Jesus and the Glory of God...This is why on HIFTBSO it says Dan Horner as the guitar player that doesn't sing anymore..now this not set in stone but this is pretty close to what happened.. Matthew
RE: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
> > > Does anyone have an idea of how great the contribution in lyric writing is > > > from Dan Hoerner? I had been under the impression that Jeremy wrote most of > > > the songs but my friend seems to think that Dan does the majority of the > > > songwriting. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > I believe that Dan wrote most of the lyrics on Diary, but since then, > > it's been Jeremy writing them. > > I don't know about this. The person who wrote the lyrics to diary definitely > also wrote the lyrics to the pink album, whoever that is. But > whoever wrote the > rising tide lyrics was absolutely positively not the same person who wrote the > majority of the lyrics on diary. sorry if it makes no sense. > Okay, after doing some research, here's my understanding of how the lyric writing on each album breaks down. Look through the "Diary" liner notes and at the bottom of each song, you'll see either "hoerner/enigk" or "enigk/hoerner." >From the SDRE FAQ, this means "/", and I'm sure there was some collaboration between the two. On "LP2", from what I understaind, the band wasn't getting a long very well, especially between Hoerner and Enigk, Hoerner did not take much of an active role in writing that album. Also, it was about that time that Enigk was "finding god," so a good deal of the lyrics on that album are some Christian references. And later, of course, I think they were back to collaborating, although the albums themselves do not indicate which individual contributed what to each song. In "The Rising Tide", it gives the lyrics as "Hoerner/Enigk", and the music as a collaborative effort by the band. And yeah, the same person(s) that wrote the lyrics to "Diary" wrote them to "The Rising Tide." I think TRT is a good deal less cryptic than "Diary," which is both a good and a bad thing, but not necessarily something that discounts from either album. Since it lists Hoerner first inside TRT as a lyric writer, I suppose he probably wrote most of the lyrics. This, however, does not necessarily account for it being less mysterious, I don't think, since a lot of the poetry/lyrics I've read that I know are by Hoerner tend to be some of the hardest to discern. -josh.
Re: [sdre-l]: to whoever needed an nyc ticket
philly is sold out and it has been since the record came out!!!
[sdre-l]: Ansigod?
Mr. McCall, are you out there? If so, drop me an email. Thanks, Mike
[sdre-l]: minneapolis show
Hey list, i just got back from the show in Minneapolis and it was great, but heres the set list in some order 1. fool in a photograph 2. pillars 3. one 4. the ocean 5. disappear 6. guitar and video games 7. snibe 8. every shining time you arrive 9.killed by an angel 10. j'nuh 11. tearing in my heart encore 1. 8 2. the rising tide 3. in circles it was one of the best shows ever.. bob for Wisconsin
Re: [sdre-l]: Lyric Writing
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:38:42PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know about this. The person who wrote the lyrics to diary > definitely also wrote the lyrics to the pink album, whoever that is. > But whoever wrote the rising tide lyrics was absolutely positively not > the same person who wrote the majority of the lyrics on diary. sorry > if it makes no sense. It would appear from the FAQ that the majority of the lyrics on Diary were written by Dan, while those on LP2 were closer to half and half, but leaning more towards Jeremy. The lyrics on How It Feels are more clearly Jeremy's and I think they serve to really define the difference between Dan and Jeremy's styles. Look at the differences between most of the lyrics on Diary, and those on How It Feels. Dan tends to use longer phrases or sentences, often even with punctuation. Jeremy tends to use words as a tapestry, without regard so much for structure or semantic meaning. Hence, the large number of words on How It Feels that are quite simply just imaginary. Now, look at TRT. I'd say most of the lyrics are written by Dan. You can see a leaning towards his style, especially on songs like Snibe or Television. The lyrics closest to Jeremy's style seem to be for Rain Song and The Ocean. Of course, this is just my interpretation, and I could be just flat out wrong. -- Bruce Labbate CS Jr cs2330 TA | Some other candy matrimony Georgia Institute of Technology | That strips the night I breathe ... Phone: (404)206-4638 | Maybe next time. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Sunny Day
