Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error
Hi. I've hit a problem during upgrade. I downloaded SMW 1.9 beta1, Validator 1.0 beta and Data Values 0.1 alpha. SMW_setup.php runs fine. SMW_refreshData.php -v throws the following error: PHP Fatal error: Class '\ValueValidators\RangeValidator' not found in /var/www/webapps/localoffer_dev/extensions/Validator/includes/ParamProcessor/ParamDefinitionFactory.php on line 181 I am upgrading a 1.8.5 instance. Any ideas? Thanks. On 05/11/13 08:09, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey all, Semantic MediaWiki 1.9 is now entering the beta stage, in preparation of the actual release somewhere next month. During this period we will mainly be working on making this already awesome release even more shiny, and making sure everything works as expected. No big new features will be added, and no compatibility changes will be made. Now is the time to try out SMW 1.9 on your test system, and to tell us about any issues you run in to that could prevent you from upgrading to this new release. You can get the code via git, by either getting the master branch, or the 1.9beta1 tag. Alternatively you can get one of the tarballs: * https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/archive/master.tar.gz * https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/archive/1.9beta1.tar.gz Preliminary release notes can be found at https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES-1.9 Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error
Hey Neill, You probably have a to old version of DataValues. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error
Hi Jeroen. I got it out of the git head this morning! I guess DataValues needs to be added to the dependencies list in the doc as well. Cheers Neill. On 06/11/13 12:09, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey Neill, You probably have a to old version of DataValues. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Good one! John are you aware of SMW users in Seattle? I'm thinking of creating the group in Moscow but I know personally only 3-4 people who use it. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:44 AM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: Hello, here in Seattle USA I have started http://www.meetup.com/Semantic-MediaWiki Since I dilly-dallied, Meetup.com sent me a 50% coupon. Try it in your town! cheers/jmc On 10/31/2013 5:31 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: Dear all, Thanks for a super-great SMWCon! It provided lots of inspiration to continue pursuing and promoting SMW for fun and profit, but foremost, it was great to meet all of you in person again (and some for the first time)! :) As you might have heard at the very end of the last day, the first SMW meetup.com group was formed during the conf as well, so I just wanted to invite any Swedes (or Swede-wannabes) to come and join the group: http://meetup.com/smwsthlm (And surely, there will soon be local meetup groups in many more cities :) ) We'll try to make a wider announcement in other channels as well later, but it would be nice to have at least a few SMW:ers in the group to start with, so as not to scare off newcomers :) Cheers // Samuel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Everyone, Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW? I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves? We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship. Your recommendations are greatly appreciated! Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Cool! :) Just a thought though, that it might be good to have the location (e.g. Seattle in the title, as to avoid confusion, since there are tons of groups on meetup.com, and they all make sense foremost for the location at hand. Good luck! Cheers // Samuel On 2013-11-06 00:44, John McClure wrote: Hello, here in Seattle USA I have started http://www.meetup.com/Semantic-MediaWiki Since I dilly-dallied, Meetup.com sent me a 50% coupon. Try it in your town! cheers/jmc On 10/31/2013 5:31 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: Dear all, Thanks for a super-great SMWCon! It provided lots of inspiration to continue pursuing and promoting SMW for fun and profit, but foremost, it was great to meet all of you in person again (and some for the first time)! :) As you might have heard at the very end of the last day, the first SMW meetup.com group was formed during the conf as well, so I just wanted to invite any Swedes (or Swede-wannabes) to come and join the group: http://meetup.com/smwsthlm (And surely, there will soon be local meetup groups in many more cities :) ) We'll try to make a wider announcement in other channels as well later, but it would be nice to have at least a few SMW:ers in the group to start with, so as not to scare off newcomers :) Cheers // Samuel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Developer at www.uppmax.uu.se www.farmbio.uu.se M: samuel.la...@it.uu.se G: samuel.la...@gmail.com S: samuellampa P: +4670-2073732 T: @smllmp B: saml.rilspace.org -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] First meetup scheduled | Re: SMW Stockholm meetup group formed
While on the topic, can now announce that we scheduled the first meetup in Stockholm: http://www.meetup.com/smwsthlm/events/149481502/ Plans for the first meetup would be mainly a bit meta, learning what we are doing/want to do, and discuss the future of the group. Ideas are welcome though. Cheers // Samuel On 2013-10-31 13:31, Samuel Lampa wrote: Dear all, Thanks for a super-great SMWCon! It provided lots of inspiration to continue pursuing and promoting SMW for fun and profit, but foremost, it was great to meet all of you in person again (and some for the first time)! :) As you might have heard at the very end of the last day, the first SMW meetup.com group was formed during the conf as well, so I just wanted to invite any Swedes (or Swede-wannabes) to come and join the group: http://meetup.com/smwsthlm (And surely, there will soon be local meetup groups in many more cities :) ) We'll try to make a wider announcement in other channels as well later, but it would be nice to have at least a few SMW:ers in the group to start with, so as not to scare off newcomers :) Cheers // Samuel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Hello Steve,
One thought is to enable SMW for _footnoted, multilingual properties_:
one defines Property:Foo as Type:Text, and is able to then reference
Foo@eng for instance in SMW's parser functions. An inline annotation
could follow this format:
[[propname@langcode ^f1,...,fn :: propvalue]]
with these additional two new parser functions:
{{#footnote-keep:fn|dc:source=xx|other footnote params}}
{{#footnote-show:f1,...fn}}
Ideally the footnote reference would be formatted within the text
(possibly, in multiple citations) where the property value is being set.
Existing parser functions would be modified to support language
designations:
{{#set: propname@eng = propvalue}} ... propvalue being set is that in
the English language
{{#ask: [[propname@eng :: propvalue]] }} ... propvalue queried is that
in the English language
The factbox, browse and maybe other SMW utilities I don't know about
right now, would need to be tweaked as well.
Last point: clearly, Type:Code properties would _not_ be language-aware.
Thanks for your inquiry!
John
On 11/6/2013 7:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V wrote:
Everyone,
Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also
would be useful to SMW?
I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this
fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts
related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.
This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I
would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which
could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be
of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above,
because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become
adept at software patterns and other OO skills.
As a student project, this should not be something critical in your
development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality
result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general
product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have
ended up submitting results back into SourceForge.
So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a
wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for
themselves?
We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing
relationship.
Your recommendations are greatly appreciated!
Steve Chenoweth
Assoc Prof, CSSE
RHIT
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Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Steve,
Another thought is to expand #ask: queries so that it can operate
against a page's fullpagename. Today, everyone needs to store a page's
fullpagename in order to reference it within a query, a highly
inefficient use of storage etc. It would be terrific if #ask could
support a new special property Fullpagename. An example is this:
{{#ask: [[ Fullpagename ::~ Template:Foo* ]]
This seems a smallish project but others may be warning of its pitfalls.
Thanks/john
On 11/6/2013 7:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V wrote:
Everyone,
Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also
would be useful to SMW?
I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this
fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts
related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.
This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I
would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which
could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be
of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above,
because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become
adept at software patterns and other OO skills.
As a student project, this should not be something critical in your
development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality
result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general
product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have
ended up submitting results back into SourceForge.
So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a
wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for
themselves?
We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing
relationship.
Your recommendations are greatly appreciated!
Steve Chenoweth
Assoc Prof, CSSE
RHIT
--
November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers
Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore
techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most
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Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Hi Stephen, Thank you for your interest and such opportunity to open up a collaboration. In regards to a student project(s) (which I think is surely tempting for both students and SMW) some ideas and thoughts need to be put together (time period, expected outcome, group work etc.) to see which viable options do exists. I would suggest, you create a content page [0] to gather information and ideas (see also [1] and [2]). to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. SMW 1.9 started to focus on a more rigid introduction of SRP (not in all classes and some still have issues) and with it the use of different design patterns. [3] contains a short introduction on how patterns are used and where. IoC and DI are covered in [4] to handle object injection during testing together with 80+ unit tests ([5], [6]) which be used to study the inner workings of SMW. [0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/ [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap [2] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Google_Summer_of_Code [3] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/docs/patterns.md [4] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/docs/dic.md [5] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Code_coverage_in_a_nutshell [6] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Writing_testable_code Cheers On 11/7/13, Chenoweth, Stephen V cheno...@rose-hulman.edu wrote: Everyone, Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW? I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves? We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship. Your recommendations are greatly appreciated! Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
A couple of non critical but useful topics I can think of: - new semantic result formats or input forms - new visual themes or better yet, a theme framework to build interfaces from - examples of semantic aware bots for bulk edits / updates Good luck with the projects. This is nice to hear. - Laurent On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V cheno...@rose-hulman.edu wrote: Everyone, Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW? I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a “wish list” already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves? We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship. Your recommendations are greatly appreciated! Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- - Laurent Alquier http://www.linfa.net -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Hi. I hope your students enjoyed learning about SMW by actually building an instance. I would also like to see Semantic Results Formats extended. This way, the students don't have to learn from scratch. They are extending existing functionality and code. Secondly, their efforts will provide tangible results everyone can see. I would love to see filterable Maps, for example. Both components exist, they just need bringing together. Best regards Neill. On 06/11/13 16:28, Laurent Alquier wrote: A couple of non critical but useful topics I can think of: - new semantic result formats or input forms - new visual themes or better yet, a theme framework to build interfaces from - examples of semantic aware bots for bulk edits / updates Good luck with the projects. This is nice to hear. - Laurent On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V cheno...@rose-hulman.edu mailto:cheno...@rose-hulman.edu wrote: Everyone, Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW? I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves? We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship. Your recommendations are greatly appreciated! Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- - Laurent Alquier http://www.linfa.net -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] footnoted multilingual properties
Here is some Turtle to flesh out the below initiative for footnoted
multilingual properties. In this case, there are different values for
the same property however each has a different named/footnoted source. I
do realize I haven't addressed querying citation info, but rome wasn't
built in a day.
my:Q
rdf:subject my:Seattle;
rdf:predicate my:Property;
rdf:object [
rdf:type rdf:Alt;
rdf:_1 [
rdf:|XMLLiteral |my string value;
smw:cite my:Q-1];
rdf:_2 [
rdf:|XMLLiteral| another string value@es;
smw:cite my:Q-2]
].
smw:Q-1
rdf:type smw:Footnote;
dc:source http://.../source1.
smw:Q-2
rdf:type smw:Footnote;
dc:source http://.../source2.
On 11/6/2013 8:01 AM, John McClure wrote:
Hello Steve,
One thought is to enable SMW for _footnoted, multilingual properties_:
one defines Property:Foo as Type:Text, and is able to then reference
Foo@eng for instance in SMW's parser functions. An inline annotation
could follow this format:
[[propname@langcode ^f1,...,fn :: propvalue]]
with these additional two new parser functions:
{{#footnote-keep:fn|dc:source=xx|other footnote params}}
{{#footnote-show:f1,...fn}}
Ideally the footnote reference would be formatted within the text
(possibly, in multiple citations) where the property value is being set.
Existing parser functions would be modified to support language
designations:
{{#set: propname@eng = propvalue}} ... propvalue being set is that in
the English language
{{#ask: [[propname@eng :: propvalue]] }} ... propvalue queried is that
in the English language
The factbox, browse and maybe other SMW utilities I don't know about
right now, would need to be tweaked as well.
Last point: clearly, Type:Code properties would _not_ be language-aware.
Thanks for your inquiry!
John
On 11/6/2013 7:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V wrote:
Everyone,
Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that
also would be useful to SMW?
I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this
fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts
related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.
This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I
would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which
could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would
be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above,
because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become
adept at software patterns and other OO skills.
As a student project, this should not be something critical in your
development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality
result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general
product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have
ended up submitting results back into SourceForge.
So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a
wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for
themselves?
We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing
relationship.
Your recommendations are greatly appreciated!
Steve Chenoweth
Assoc Prof, CSSE
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com http://meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Developer at www.uppmax.uu.se www.farmbio.uu.se M: samuel.la...@it.uu.se G: samuel.la...@gmail.com S: samuellampa P: +4670-2073732 T: @smllmp B: saml.rilspace.org -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. -Yaron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel Lampa samuel.la...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com http://meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.commailto: katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu= /4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Developer at www.uppmax.uu.se www.farmbio.uu.se M: samuel.la...@it.uu.se G: samuel.la...@gmail.com S: samuellampa P: +4670-2073732 T: @smllmp B: saml.rilspace.org -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Yep, have mailed, so will see what they say ... // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:14, Yaron Koren wrote: Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. -Yaron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel Lampa samuel.la...@gmail.com mailto:samuel.la...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com http://meetup.com http://meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Hey, With regards to the objective to engage in OO and design pattern development, Semantic Results Formats does have several design issues (misuse of inheritance, violation of SRP etc.) which are rather counter-productive to the stated objective. I second this. SRF is not suited to learn students how to something well. The same holds for MediaWiki and SMW. We are working on removing the later from the list, though it is not there yet. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? How about creating a fresh implementation of our wikitext ask query parser? This would be fairly self contained and can be done without touching the existing implementation in SMW core. When its ready it could then be used to replace the existing implementation, though this step would likely be out of scope. This can be developed without knowledge of MW or SMW (expect Ask queries), and requires neither to be installed. Implementation would start from scratch, though one can look at the existing one in SMW. The people doing this can thus experiment with several designs, do not have to bother with unrelated code, and work on top of well designed code, rather then the typical example of legacy code. The role of this parser would be to turn an ask query definition in wikitext into the corresponding PHP object definition. The input would thus be something like [0] into a Query [1] object. This is something that needs to happen at some point before we can implement related new functionality. So it'd be very helpful if this item was tackled for us. The item is rather smallish, and perhaps to small to fill the course. Additional things can be done on top however. If this sounds good to you, I'll describe it a bit more on a wiki page and link to the relevant resources. [0] http://pastebin.com/mHNvf3yw [1] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Ask/blob/master/src/Ask/Language/Query.php Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
I've changed the name of the group here as suggested. We have a local Semantics group I belong to with over 200 people, so maybe that's why they've not nailed me or something On 11/6/2013 9:15 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: Yep, have mailed, so will see what they say ... // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:14, Yaron Koren wrote: Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. -Yaron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel Lampa samuel.la...@gmail.com mailto:samuel.la...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com http://meetup.com http://meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
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Jeroen, Thank you very much! This sounds like a well-defined target for my students. I agree that they might finish it sooner rather than later, so I appreciate that it could lead to additional work. I'll run this past my class, and will let you know if there are immediate questions, etc. Thanks again, Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT From: Jeroen De Dauw [mailto:jeroended...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:17 PM To: James HK Cc: Neill Mitchell; Chenoweth, Stephen V; Semantic MediaWiki developers Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try? Hey, With regards to the objective to engage in OO and design pattern development, Semantic Results Formats does have several design issues (misuse of inheritance, violation of SRP etc.) which are rather counter-productive to the stated objective. I second this. SRF is not suited to learn students how to something well. The same holds for MediaWiki and SMW. We are working on removing the later from the list, though it is not there yet. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? How about creating a fresh implementation of our wikitext ask query parser? This would be fairly self contained and can be done without touching the existing implementation in SMW core. When its ready it could then be used to replace the existing implementation, though this step would likely be out of scope. This can be developed without knowledge of MW or SMW (expect Ask queries), and requires neither to be installed. Implementation would start from scratch, though one can look at the existing one in SMW. The people doing this can thus experiment with several designs, do not have to bother with unrelated code, and work on top of well designed code, rather then the typical example of legacy code. The role of this parser would be to turn an ask query definition in wikitext into the corresponding PHP object definition. The input would thus be something like [0] into a Query [1] object. This is something that needs to happen at some point before we can implement related new functionality. So it'd be very helpful if this item was tackled for us. The item is rather smallish, and perhaps to small to fill the course. Additional things can be done on top however. If this sounds good to you, I'll describe it a bit more on a wiki page and link to the relevant resources. [0] http://pastebin.com/mHNvf3yw [1] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Ask/blob/master/src/Ask/Language/Query.php Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] footnoted multilingual properties
Some minor changes, including a new special property (Has_triple).
Incidentally multiple values are enveloped within an rdf:Bag or rdf:Seq
resource as the case may be.Below, two possible values are offered for a
single instance of the property.
my:Seattle
smw:Has_triple my:Q.
my:Q
rdf:subject my:Seattle;
rdf:predicate my:Property;
rdf:object [
rdf:type rdf:Alt;
rdf:_1 [
rdf:|XMLLiteral |my string value;
smw:cite my:Q-1];
rdf:_2 [
rdf:|XMLLiteral| mi valor de cadena@es;
smw:cite my:Q-2]
].
my:Q-1
rdf:type smw:Footnote;
dc:source http://.../source1.
my:Q-2
rdf:type smw:Footnote;
dc:source http://.../source2.
On 11/6/2013 8:45 AM, John McClure wrote:
Here is some Turtle to flesh out the below initiative for footnoted
multilingual properties. In this case, there are different values for
the same property however each has a different named/footnoted source.
I do realize I haven't addressed querying citation info, but rome
wasn't built in a day.
snip/
On 11/6/2013 8:01 AM, John McClure wrote:
Hello Steve,
One thought is to enable SMW for _footnoted, multilingual
properties_: one defines Property:Foo as Type:Text, and is able to
then reference Foo@eng for instance in SMW's parser functions. An
inline annotation could follow this format:
[[propname@langcode ^f1,...,fn :: propvalue]]
with these additional two new parser functions:
{{#footnote-keep:fn|dc:source=xx|other footnote params}}
{{#footnote-show:f1,...fn}}
Ideally the footnote reference would be formatted within the text
(possibly, in multiple citations) where the property value is being set.
Existing parser functions would be modified to support language
designations:
{{#set: propname@eng = propvalue}} ... propvalue being set is that in
the English language
{{#ask: [[propname@eng :: propvalue]] }} ... propvalue queried is
that in the English language
The factbox, browse and maybe other SMW utilities I don't know about
right now, would need to be tweaked as well.
Last point: clearly, Type:Code properties would _not_ be language-aware.
Thanks for your inquiry!
John
On 11/6/2013 7:22 AM, Chenoweth, Stephen V wrote:
Everyone,
Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that
also would be useful to SMW?
I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this
fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts
related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.
This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I
would love to give them a design and programming project to do,
which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also
would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP,
above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students
to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills.
As a student project, this should not be something critical in your
development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality
result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general
product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have
ended up submitting results back into SourceForge.
So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a
wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for
themselves?
We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing
relationship.
Your recommendations are greatly appreciated!
Steve Chenoweth
Assoc Prof, CSSE
RHIT
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed
Yeah, hope you don't run into the same trouble! Best // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:18, John McClure wrote: I've changed the name of the group here as suggested. We have a local Semantics group I belong to with over 200 people, so maybe that's why they've not nailed me or something On 11/6/2013 9:15 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: Yep, have mailed, so will see what they say ... // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:14, Yaron Koren wrote: Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. -Yaron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel Lampa samuel.la...@gmail.com mailto:samuel.la...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.comhttp://meetup.com http://meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Wikidata shows the way
Hi - outreach to the enterprise community tell about SMW Wikidata DBpedia this article mike2.openmethodology.org/blogs/information-development/?p=4560 contains deserved praise Hope y'all 'like' it! mike2.openmethodology.org/blogs/information-development/?p=4560 -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Wikidata shows the way (with link)
Hi - outreach to the enterprise community tell about SMW Wikidata DBpedia this article mike2.openmethodology.org/blogs/information-development/?p=4560 contains deserved praise Hope y'all 'like' it! [1] mike2.openmethodology.org/blogs/information-development/?p=4560 -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Wikidata shows the way (with link)
Not found it seems - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:12 AM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: Hi - outreach to the enterprise community tell about SMW Wikidata DBpedia this article contains deserved praise Hope y'all 'like' it! [1] mike2.openmethodology.org/blogs/information-development/?p=4560 -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?
Short history: With Mediawiki 1.16 / Semantic Mediawiki 1.5.2 / Semantic Forms 0.4.1, you could open a form, and in the free text area you could enable a rich text editor, FCKeditor 1.0.1 (a.k.a. CKEditor). Then there was SMW+, which went to Mediawiki 1.17 / SMW (not sure) / and WYSIWYG, which I believe is an update to FCKeditor. It had the same functionality with Semantic Forms, and they improved it quite a bit over FCKeditor. The SMW+ is no longer what it used to be (I'll leave it at that, there are plenty of discussions about it's status changes online), a group has been updating the WYSIWYG extension to work with later versions of Mediawiki: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WYSIWYG I've tried it, it's the best so far and very robust compared to FCKeditor. It has a feature set that appears to greatly exceed that of the roadmap of the VisualEditor effort: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor particularly for those of us in a work environment where things like Word import is valuable. You can see a discussion about this here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wiki.semediawiki.user/14775 Project Idea: I suggest a project to get the WYSIWYG extension working with the latest Semantic Forms, in a way that can be supported with little if any effort in later versions of Semantic Forms. I believe it would be a greatly appreciated effort for more organizations than just mine. Thanks, and good luck. Sal From: Chenoweth, Stephen V [mailto:cheno...@rose-hulman.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 7:22 AM To: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try? Everyone, Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW? I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall. When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. This same class is next heading into a course in software design. I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community. I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills. As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension. In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge. So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? Or, do you have a wish list already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves? We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship. Your recommendations are greatly appreciated! Steve Chenoweth Assoc Prof, CSSE RHIT -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
