Re: new mailets directory structure
love to have consisten naming. For now, we have some mailet-aggregator, mailbox-project vs apache-crypto-mailets... I (re)open here the door to another discussion which is the naming conventions of our artifcats... Regarding the mailets, I would suggest at least to name the new top pom apache-mailets to be more consistent with the rest. Agree, I would also like to update the versioning schema and go with http://semver.org/ , which I think is also ok with regard to OSGi. I think I can do them over the weekend and go with a release sometimes next week with the new project structure, artifact names and versions. New directory structure is available at [1], I'm waiting for the git mirror as requeste by me to infra. All our repos will then have git mirrors. [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/james/mailet/http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/mailet/ Cool. Before committing, please post here your naming proposal so everyone has time to commment and review. Naming and structure are always sensible topics. I would like to rename maven artifacts so they are more consistent. Don't have a strong preference but I like groupId: org.apache.james.mailets like the protocols groupId. I don't have a strong opinion on this, so I'm ready to drop in case of complaints. With regard to artifactId, I'm going with apache-mailets for the parent pom (where we will define all the properties and dependency management for mailets). apache-mailets-aggregator will aggregate all the projects. apache-mailets will have apache-james-project as parent. All other mailet projects, including apache-mailets-aggregator, will be children of apache-mailets. As for the version changes, I plan to add numbers and dots so they look like X.Y.Z. For example, apache-james-ai-project will have 0.0.1-SNAPSHOT instead of 0.1-SNAPSHOT. This is mainly to be consistent and so we don't create confusion in OSGi realm. Pull requests would be very nice but I think patches or github web reviews will have to do until we get the basics. Any help is appreciated, Also, if you decide to change naming/packages/versions..., please also add in you todo: - The impact on the other James components (pom, src...). - The impact on the documentation (download page, mailet sites..) Thx again, Eric Thx, Eric On 29/11/2012 23:39, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote: Hello devs, I wish to change the directory structure of the mailet project to be something similar to the mailbox project with all mailet components under the same roof. I think the current set-up is very bad for development since most of the components are linke together and should stay together. It should be very similar to the mailbox project structure where we have the api and implemnetations in the same folder. I made a quick mock-up that you can check out: https://github.com/ieugen/**james-mailet-newhttps://github.com/ieugen/james-mailet-new It will also make git migration a lot easier since the whole project will require just one git repo, whereas in the current state we will need about 4. How should we do this with respect to the already available tags (a few). There are no branches. My Idea is to move the existing mailets project structure as a new commit under james/OLD and recommit all files with the new structure under james/mailets. What do you think? --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Using James as SMTP Relay
Thanks Eric. Yes you are right it will be authenticated use for sure. Is it possible to test it from 127.0.0.1 (i.e locally) or I need to put/install James on my Softlayer servers ? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Yes, Just create the needed user/password and give them to your users (I guess you don't want to act as an openrelay). SMTP relay will is working by default for authenticated users. Thx, Eric On 19/11/2012 10:15, Dhrubo wrote: Hello, Is it possible to use James as an SMTP relay just like SendGrid? If yes how ? Can anyone point me to some documentation links? --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Release Hupa 0.0.3
[X] +1 Please release On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: [X] +1 Please release Eric On 08/16/2012 11:55 AM, Manuel Carrasco Mońino wrote: Hi all, Please cast your VOTE for Apache Hupa 0.0.3 release: [ ] +1 Please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 Something is wrong SVN tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/james/hupa/tags/hupa-**parent-0.0.3/https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/hupa/tags/hupa-parent-0.0.3/ Source tarball: https://repository.apache.org/**content/repositories/** orgapachejames-015/org/apache/**james/hupa/hupa-parent/0.0.3/** hupa-parent-0.0.3-source-**release.ziphttps://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-015/org/apache/james/hupa/hupa-parent/0.0.3/hupa-parent-0.0.3-source-release.zip Staging repository: https://repository.apache.org/**content/repositories/** orgapachejames-015/https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-015/ Thanks - Manolo --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- eric | http://about.echarles.net | @echarles --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Hupa site and DEMO
Looks good. I just tried the demo. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: Hi all I have updated Hupa site [1] which was very outdated. Also I've fixed many bugs in hupa, improved styling, etc [2], and I've deployed two instances [3] in order that everyone can test and play with it. I'm thinking on releasing this version (0.2), so as it was the last snapshot before adding the new improvements panned to be part of hupa af the end of the GSOC period. Please, check out the demos and give feedback. - Manolo [1] http://james.apache.org/hupa [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1333089 [3] http://james.zones.apache.org/index.html -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution
These days with JSF 2 frameworks like Primefaces et all we do not really need any js , ajax is out of the box and we need little html know how too. Also they come with more than standard layouts and theme support. James being an Apache product and Apache also develops JSF 2 imp, we should use JSF 2 with easiest and huge set of components like in Primefaces which is excellent documented highly active community. So my two cents +1 Primefaces -1 GWT Please note I have no affiliation or neither work for Prime Teknoloji :) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: -1 JSF2 +1 GWT Like JSF2, GWT is a proved technology, open sourced, and apache-2 licensed. GWT adds a set of benefices to James, mainly we continue being java centric and we dont need serious javascript, ajax nor html skills to understand the project, secondly we can deliver a product which is unit tested and javadoc-ed in all its components. I don't want to expose the benefices of developing large rich apps with gwt vs hand-written js because there is a lot of literature along the web. - Manolo On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should move to JSF 2 than GWT which is mostly controlled by one company. Apache with its vision and endeavor for OSS we should use - JSF 2 - Tomahawk (or Mojarra) + Primefaces On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.com wrote: Pe 11.04.2012 18:48, echo a scris: Hi Manolo Very glad to see your reply. The reason why I want to choose the gwt-platform was that it is more smoothly to update from current Hupa's state(gwt-presenter). However, I like the native one rather than gwtp since it will import the other resources. What I really want to do is to replace the MVP by gwt itself. I was just afraid whether I can complete the proposal before the deadline of GSoC, so I asked for you advices. If possible, I want to use the core mvp in gwt to realize it. Over these days, I have been researching the Hupa project and GWT technology and later on I want to show you something I am changing. To the new features, I would like to implement as many features, that a current email client should have, as possible not only during the GSoC period, but also after that. And I am also keeping my eyes open on the Hupa's JIRA, where some wonderful ideas come out gradually. Sure I will give my deeper discription after my researching. I don't think it will be late. Thanks a lot :) Wish you a happy Hi Echo I've been reading your application and it looks right to me. One thing I see is that you have selected gwt-platform instead of the core mvp in gwt but you don't say any reason about why you prefer the first option. Also I'd like a deeper description of how you pretend to face new features, I mean components, persistence, customization etc. Cheers - Manolo -- cheers, echo Hello Echo, Sound good. I'm not familiar with GWT and I would like to know more. Good luck with your research and send us the findings. Cheers. -- Ioan Eugen Stan http://ieugen.blogspot.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.org server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**org server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution
I do not intend to launch a debate on GWT v JSF 2. But JSF 2 is the JEE standard for UI and Primefaces comes with sample layout for webmail which may help you get started very fast. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: These days with JSF 2 frameworks like Primefaces et all we do not really need any js , ajax is out of the box and we need little html know how too. Also they come with more than standard layouts and theme support. James being an Apache product and Apache also develops JSF 2 imp, we should use JSF 2 with easiest and huge set of components like in Primefaces which is excellent documented highly active community. So my two cents +1 Primefaces -1 GWT Please note I have no affiliation or neither work for Prime Teknoloji :) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.org wrote: -1 JSF2 +1 GWT Like JSF2, GWT is a proved technology, open sourced, and apache-2 licensed. GWT adds a set of benefices to James, mainly we continue being java centric and we dont need serious javascript, ajax nor html skills to understand the project, secondly we can deliver a product which is unit tested and javadoc-ed in all its components. I don't want to expose the benefices of developing large rich apps with gwt vs hand-written js because there is a lot of literature along the web. - Manolo On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should move to JSF 2 than GWT which is mostly controlled by one company. Apache with its vision and endeavor for OSS we should use - JSF 2 - Tomahawk (or Mojarra) + Primefaces On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.com wrote: Pe 11.04.2012 18:48, echo a scris: Hi Manolo Very glad to see your reply. The reason why I want to choose the gwt-platform was that it is more smoothly to update from current Hupa's state(gwt-presenter). However, I like the native one rather than gwtp since it will import the other resources. What I really want to do is to replace the MVP by gwt itself. I was just afraid whether I can complete the proposal before the deadline of GSoC, so I asked for you advices. If possible, I want to use the core mvp in gwt to realize it. Over these days, I have been researching the Hupa project and GWT technology and later on I want to show you something I am changing. To the new features, I would like to implement as many features, that a current email client should have, as possible not only during the GSoC period, but also after that. And I am also keeping my eyes open on the Hupa's JIRA, where some wonderful ideas come out gradually. Sure I will give my deeper discription after my researching. I don't think it will be late. Thanks a lot :) Wish you a happy Hi Echo I've been reading your application and it looks right to me. One thing I see is that you have selected gwt-platform instead of the core mvp in gwt but you don't say any reason about why you prefer the first option. Also I'd like a deeper description of how you pretend to face new features, I mean components, persistence, customization etc. Cheers - Manolo -- cheers, echo Hello Echo, Sound good. I'm not familiar with GWT and I would like to know more. Good luck with your research and send us the findings. Cheers. -- Ioan Eugen Stan http://ieugen.blogspot.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.org server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**org server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution
Manolo - Primefaces Mailbox template --- http://www.primefaces.org/showcase-labs/ui/layoutMailbox.jsf Its basic but good starting point. They have very rich component suite also you can look into Primefaces extensions for more layouts and Rich editor support besides what is provided by Primefaces itself. The extensions project is hosted here - http://code.google.com/p/primefaces-extensions/ They also have their entire showcase online. Slight deviation - following the principles of Zimbra we can easily (hopefully) we can turn this webmail app into a desktop app like MS OUTLOOK or Thunderbird by embeding Jetty with Mozilla Prism (is it a dead project i guess) or some kind of XULRunner. Also I am available for any consultancy or help on Primefaces, JSF 2, Spring. I can also do lot of development as well provided I have a commit privilege on SVN :) . One big advantage I see using JSF 2 is modular app development. Please check this link - https://community.jboss.org/wiki/ModularWebAppsWithJSF2?_sscc=t This can be further extended with Spring and Ant style configuration. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: Dhrubo, Is there a site running the the webmail example of primefaces?, or is there a way to download the .war file?, I'd like to take a look. Thanks - Manolo On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I do not intend to launch a debate on GWT v JSF 2. But JSF 2 is the JEE standard for UI and Primefaces comes with sample layout for webmail which may help you get started very fast. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: These days with JSF 2 frameworks like Primefaces et all we do not really need any js , ajax is out of the box and we need little html know how too. Also they come with more than standard layouts and theme support. James being an Apache product and Apache also develops JSF 2 imp, we should use JSF 2 with easiest and huge set of components like in Primefaces which is excellent documented highly active community. So my two cents +1 Primefaces -1 GWT Please note I have no affiliation or neither work for Prime Teknoloji :) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.org wrote: -1 JSF2 +1 GWT Like JSF2, GWT is a proved technology, open sourced, and apache-2 licensed. GWT adds a set of benefices to James, mainly we continue being java centric and we dont need serious javascript, ajax nor html skills to understand the project, secondly we can deliver a product which is unit tested and javadoc-ed in all its components. I don't want to expose the benefices of developing large rich apps with gwt vs hand-written js because there is a lot of literature along the web. - Manolo On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should move to JSF 2 than GWT which is mostly controlled by one company. Apache with its vision and endeavor for OSS we should use - JSF 2 - Tomahawk (or Mojarra) + Primefaces On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.com wrote: Pe 11.04.2012 18:48, echo a scris: Hi Manolo Very glad to see your reply. The reason why I want to choose the gwt-platform was that it is more smoothly to update from current Hupa's state(gwt-presenter). However, I like the native one rather than gwtp since it will import the other resources. What I really want to do is to replace the MVP by gwt itself. I was just afraid whether I can complete the proposal before the deadline of GSoC, so I asked for you advices. If possible, I want to use the core mvp in gwt to realize it. Over these days, I have been researching the Hupa project and GWT technology and later on I want to show you something I am changing. To the new features, I would like to implement as many features, that a current email client should have, as possible not only during the GSoC period, but also after that. And I am also keeping my eyes open on the Hupa's JIRA, where some wonderful ideas come out gradually. Sure I will give my deeper discription after my researching. I don't think it will be late. Thanks a lot :) Wish you a happy Hi Echo I've been reading your application and it looks right to me. One thing I see is that you have selected gwt-platform instead of the core mvp in gwt but you don't say any reason about why you prefer the first option. Also I'd like a deeper description of how you pretend to face new features, I mean components, persistence, customization etc. Cheers - Manolo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution
Looks good!!! On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hupa should also focus to decouple the 'services' from the 'ui'. If we have independent services for efficient IMAP mailbox read/write, contact management, authentication/authorization..**. (name any), we can: 1.- Focus on those libraries without the ui concern - for example, my current experience with hupa is that the mailboxes reading sometimes fails due to (I think) latency,... 2.- Put any ui on top, GWT being the first developed, but any other one could be further added. Thx, Eric On 04/18/2012 05:20 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino wrote: I've been taking a look to the demo, it looks pretty nice because of a good selection of css, I'll deep into the code when I had a while. You can see Hupa in action in either servers: http://hupa.alcala.org (it's a shared server I use, it could be down sometimes) http://james.zones.apache.org (it's a recent instance deployed in the James jail server). In order to use hupa you have to login with any gmail user (previously you have to enable imap in that user). - Manolo On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Ioan Eugen Stanstan.ieu...@gmail.com** wrote: Hi Dhurbo, Manolo, I think the developer doing the work should choose whatever platform he is most comfortable with. Good code has to come out of his hands and comfort aids that. Having both with be great (but most likely hard to maintain in the long run). As a user I would like to see something usable that looks nice. I wouldn't care if it where implemented in a specific platform. MyFaces mailbox demo looks very nice. I haven't checked Hupa demo (I know Manolo has one installed, but I don't have a gmail test account and I didn't see any SSL), maybe we should have a mocked HUPA install like MyFaces one available online. I wonder what it will take to do that? My cents ;). Cheers, 2012/4/18 Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com**: Manolo - Primefaces Mailbox template --- http://www.primefaces.org/**showcase-labs/ui/**layoutMailbox.jsfhttp://www.primefaces.org/showcase-labs/ui/layoutMailbox.jsf Its basic but good starting point. They have very rich component suite also you can look into Primefaces extensions for more layouts and Rich editor support besides what is provided by Primefaces itself. The extensions project is hosted here - http://code.google.com/p/**primefaces-extensions/http://code.google.com/p/primefaces-extensions/ They also have their entire showcase online. Slight deviation - following the principles of Zimbra we can easily (hopefully) we can turn this webmail app into a desktop app like MS OUTLOOK or Thunderbird by embeding Jetty with Mozilla Prism (is it a dead project i guess) or some kind of XULRunner. Also I am available for any consultancy or help on Primefaces, JSF 2, Spring. I can also do lot of development as well provided I have a commit privilege on SVN :) . One big advantage I see using JSF 2 is modular app development. Please check this link - https://community.jboss.org/**wiki/ModularWebAppsWithJSF2?_**sscc=thttps://community.jboss.org/wiki/ModularWebAppsWithJSF2?_sscc=t This can be further extended with Spring and Ant style configuration. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: Dhrubo, Is there a site running the the webmail example of primefaces?, or is there a way to download the .war file?, I'd like to take a look. Thanks - Manolo On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I do not intend to launch a debate on GWT v JSF 2. But JSF 2 is the JEE standard for UI and Primefaces comes with sample layout for webmail which may help you get started very fast. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: These days with JSF 2 frameworks like Primefaces et all we do not really need any js , ajax is out of the box and we need little html know how too. Also they come with more than standard layouts and theme support. James being an Apache product and Apache also develops JSF 2 imp, we should use JSF 2 with easiest and huge set of components like in Primefaces which is excellent documented highly active community. So my two cents +1 Primefaces -1 GWT Please note I have no affiliation or neither work for Prime Teknoloji :) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.org wrote: -1 JSF2 +1 GWT Like JSF2, GWT is a proved technology, open sourced, and apache-2 licensed. GWT adds a set of benefices to James, mainly we continue being java centric and we dont need serious javascript, ajax nor html skills to understand the project, secondly we can deliver a product which is unit tested and javadoc-ed in all its components. I don't want to expose the benefices of developing large rich apps with gwt vs hand-written js because there is a lot
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution implementing chat
I think chat is an initial distraction. One can look to integrate with Apache XMPP server - Apache VYSPER. It can also be a pluggable module that integrates with any XMPP compliant server BR ...dhrubo On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: So we would need that a Hupa user have a gmail account, right? I think Hupa is thought to interact with any imap server, and specially with James, have you consider the option to implement the chat using Hupa server side instead of google's ? Cheers - Manolo On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Tejaswini Kurakula tejaswinikurak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Manolo, I think we should integrate the google chat in HUPA evolution for which we would have to create a XMPP rich client which can do the following : 1. Send invitation to chat 2. Chat presence and status 3.Provide a chat status 4. Sending and receiving chat messages. At the abckend wew ould be using the XMPP server provided by Google Talk . Let me know your thoughts on it . Tejaswini -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution implementing chat
Manuel/Tejaswini - my 2 cents both would be great :) On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Tejaswini Kurakula tejaswinikurak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi manuel , I was also thinking of implementing the video mail with the help of JMF(java media framework ) where we record the audio and video and send the avi file directly to the user . Also can you please guide me , which one should i go for 1. Chat Application 2. Video Mail I am fine with both . Tejaswinin On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: So we would need that a Hupa user have a gmail account, right? I think Hupa is thought to interact with any imap server, and specially with James, have you consider the option to implement the chat using Hupa server side instead of google's ? Cheers - Manolo On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Tejaswini Kurakula tejaswinikurak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Manolo, I think we should integrate the google chat in HUPA evolution for which we would have to create a XMPP rich client which can do the following : 1. Send invitation to chat 2. Chat presence and status 3.Provide a chat status 4. Sending and receiving chat messages. At the abckend wew ould be using the XMPP server provided by Google Talk . Let me know your thoughts on it . Tejaswini -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution implementing chat
We can make it a little more work as James is on Spring - so HUPA can use Spring Integration for easy integration with XMPP server and LDAP like auth repository. Thats also possible with Spring. On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: Agree, we should integrate with an apache XMPP product to eat our own dog food. We should have in mind that we have to use the same auth database and if possible everything should work out-of-the-box. On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I think chat is an initial distraction. One can look to integrate with Apache XMPP server - Apache VYSPER. It can also be a pluggable module that integrates with any XMPP compliant server BR ...dhrubo On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino man...@apache.orgwrote: So we would need that a Hupa user have a gmail account, right? I think Hupa is thought to interact with any imap server, and specially with James, have you consider the option to implement the chat using Hupa server side instead of google's ? Cheers - Manolo On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Tejaswini Kurakula tejaswinikurak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Manolo, I think we should integrate the google chat in HUPA evolution for which we would have to create a XMPP rich client which can do the following : 1. Send invitation to chat 2. Chat presence and status 3.Provide a chat status 4. Sending and receiving chat messages. At the abckend wew ould be using the XMPP server provided by Google Talk . Let me know your thoughts on it . Tejaswini -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [GSOC2012] Hupa evolution
I think we should move to JSF 2 than GWT which is mostly controlled by one company. Apache with its vision and endeavor for OSS we should use - JSF 2 - Tomahawk (or Mojarra) + Primefaces On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.comwrote: Pe 11.04.2012 18:48, echo a scris: Hi Manolo Very glad to see your reply. The reason why I want to choose the gwt-platform was that it is more smoothly to update from current Hupa's state(gwt-presenter). However, I like the native one rather than gwtp since it will import the other resources. What I really want to do is to replace the MVP by gwt itself. I was just afraid whether I can complete the proposal before the deadline of GSoC, so I asked for you advices. If possible, I want to use the core mvp in gwt to realize it. Over these days, I have been researching the Hupa project and GWT technology and later on I want to show you something I am changing. To the new features, I would like to implement as many features, that a current email client should have, as possible not only during the GSoC period, but also after that. And I am also keeping my eyes open on the Hupa's JIRA, where some wonderful ideas come out gradually. Sure I will give my deeper discription after my researching. I don't think it will be late. Thanks a lot :) Wish you a happy Hi Echo I've been reading your application and it looks right to me. One thing I see is that you have selected gwt-platform instead of the core mvp in gwt but you don't say any reason about why you prefer the first option. Also I'd like a deeper description of how you pretend to face new features, I mean components, persistence, customization etc. Cheers - Manolo -- cheers, echo Hello Echo, Sound good. I'm not familiar with GWT and I would like to know more. Good luck with your research and send us the findings. Cheers. -- Ioan Eugen Stan http://ieugen.blogspot.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Capture IMAP events for use in our CRM
a notification of every single change that is made to a message in IMAP? IMAP is currently most important for us. The reason I want to do this is we have a custom CRM tool that has a custom mail database and we want to slowly migrate to a real mailserver, we thought of using Apache JAMES to do synchronisation, because at this time we cannot yet realize a full migration. We want to do this in steps. My ultimate goal, regarding synchronisation, is to receive all events that are occurring in the IMAP part of JAMES, so we can update the status of the messages in our CRM-tool. My goal is also to synchronize changes in the CRM-tool back to IMAP-JAMES. But this can easily be done through an IMAP-session. That shouldn't be a problem. I hope anyone can help me out on this, because I find a lack of documentation regarding this subject. Right now, the only way of doing this seems to me creating database triggers (we're using this with PostgreSQL). Thank you in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Capture IMAP events for use in our CRM
Appreciated Norman. ~Danke On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there, you can register a MailboxListener in the MailboxManager instance and so get notifications about mailbox events. This should do the job. Have a look here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxManager.java?view=markup http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxListenerSupport.java?view=markup http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxListener.java?view=markup Let me know if you need more info.. Bye, Norman 2012/1/26 l0c4l h0st l0c4lh0st.d...@gmail.com: Hello, What I'm trying to do is capture events that the IMAP-server should (or is supposed to) raise. Whenever a message gets marked as read, I want to get a notification of this event. Whenever a message gets marked as unread, I want to get a notification of this event. Whenever a message gets flagged, I want to get a notification of this event. Etc. etc. Whenever a user moves a message to a different IMAP folder, I want to get a notification of this event. Whenever a user deletes a message to a different IMAP folder, I want to get a notification of this event. Whenever a user copies a message to a different IMAP folder, I want to get a notification of this event. Right now, I don't see any way of doing this. I thought this would be possible with the Matchers and Mailets, but I don't see how this would be possible. I can define a custom mailet, that matches on ALL, when I add this mailet in the root- and transport-processors, I get notifications only of mail that arrives through SMTP and mail that is sent through SMTP. Am I missing the IMAP way of doing this? Or is there currently no way of doing this with IMAP? I've tried searching through the code, but I don't see any event listeners or anything that would be triggered. I did find ImapStateAwareMailboxListener, but I cannot find how to subscribe to this event or anything. Also, I found the UpdatedFlags class, but there is no notification sent anywhere. SO: How can I get a notification of every single change that is made to a message in IMAP? IMAP is currently most important for us. The reason I want to do this is we have a custom CRM tool that has a custom mail database and we want to slowly migrate to a real mailserver, we thought of using Apache JAMES to do synchronisation, because at this time we cannot yet realize a full migration. We want to do this in steps. My ultimate goal, regarding synchronisation, is to receive all events that are occurring in the IMAP part of JAMES, so we can update the status of the messages in our CRM-tool. My goal is also to synchronize changes in the CRM-tool back to IMAP-JAMES. But this can easily be done through an IMAP-session. That shouldn't be a problem. I hope anyone can help me out on this, because I find a lack of documentation regarding this subject. Right now, the only way of doing this seems to me creating database triggers (we're using this with PostgreSQL). Thank you in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Logging library in our projects
+1 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Young Gu hyysguy...@gmail.com wrote: 2.- the uniformisation between all projects. +1 slf4j is a good candidate, no the dependency nightmare. Please be free to contact with me for any question or suggestion. Thanks Best Regards . --**--** Young Gu | Software Engineer | http://www.infor.com On 12/31/2011 03:35 PM, Eric Charles wrote: Hello Norman, Yes, I can understand this. So, how are we gonna create a POP3Protocol(**ProtocolHandlerChain, ProtocolConfiguration, Logger) from server which uses slf4j? We need to give as third parameter a org.apache.james.protocols.** api.Logger. An adapter between org.slf4j.Logger and org.apache.james.protocols.**api.Logger could do the job, even if find this a bit overhead. When integrating server and protocols trunk a few days before, I thus though to these 2 options: 1.- the adapter. 2.- the uniformisation between all projects. but didn't know where to go..., this is the reason for this thread :) Maybe you have a third option in mind such as having two completely separated logging mechanism when running protocols in server? Thx, Eric On 30/12/11 21:25, Norman Maurer wrote: Hi Eric, I pulled out the slf4j dependency in protocols as its really sexy to have zero dependencies in the API. We even only used the Logger interface which made it even more clear to me that we should use our own logger interface. Our implementations and so consumer of the API will still use slf4j. We did the same in jSPF. Hope it helps, Norman Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 30.12.2011 um 20:48 schrieb Eric Charlese...@apache.org: Hi, I noticed: - https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/JAMES-1149https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-1149(Replace commons-logging with jcl-over-slf4j) - and recent https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/PROTOCOLS-76https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTOCOLS-76(Remove dependency on slf4j) I commented on the PROTOCOLS-76 about the incompatible types which makes the integration of our different project more complicated (incompatible logger types in constructor,...). One option is to standardize for all project to one of the following: 1.- slf4j 2.- java.util.Logger 3.- commons-logging 4.- Our own implementation 5.- ... I don't have any strong preference for any, but the trend I see in some (not all) other projects is slf4j. If we go this way, this will give us probably less work to integrate server-trunk with protocols-trunk. ...or let each project decide, which will be hell. WDYT? -- eric | http://about.echarles.net | @echarles --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache James jDKIM 0.2
[ ] +1 Yes, go ahead On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there, its time for the second release of jDKIM a.k.a 0.2. A list of changes can be found here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310990version=12314300 The artifacts for review can be found here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-031/ So please go ahead and cast your VOTE. [ ] +1 Yes, go ahead [ ] +0 No time for review [ ] -1 Something wrong Thanks, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache James Mime4j 0.7 (second try)
[x] +1 Please release On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: [x] +1 Please release Bye, Norman Am 20.07.2011 21:37, schrieb Norman Maurer: Hi there, this is the second try to release version 0.7 of Apache James Mime4j. This first VOTE was canceled because of some problems with the binary bundles. So please review and VOTE: https://repository.apache.org/**content/repositories/** orgapachejames-020/https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-020/ [ ] +1 Please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 Something wrong Thanks, Norman --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://open-garage.blogspot.com LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Building from source v 3
Yes you are very close. I intend to get the source on Eclipse/STS build the same and make additions or deletions as per my need. I should be able to build the same and create the server. I am looking into this link http://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html let me see if I get some success. BR ..dhrubo On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Am 19.07.2011 20:12, schrieb Ioan Eugen Stan: 2011/7/19 Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com**: Hi, Is it possible to get the source from svn and build an installable / deployable james 3 unit? Please provide me the steps -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo I don't really understand what you mean by unit, but you can find instructions on how to build James here: http://james.apache.org/**server/3/dev-build.htmlhttp://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html . I'm just guessing what you want ;) This is only needed if you don't want to depend on the automatic deployed snapshots of current trunk: # svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/james/server/trunk/http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/james-server-trunk # cd james-server-trunk # mvn clean package install # cd .. # svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/james/app/trunk/http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/app/trunk/james-app # cd james-app # mvn clean package You will find the tar.gz in the target folder. Bye, Norman --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.orgserver-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-help@james.apache.**orgserver-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo
Building from source v 3
Hi, Is it possible to get the source from svn and build an installable / deployable james 3 unit? Please provide me the steps -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache James Server 3.0-beta3
May be duplicate vote [ x ] +1 Yes, please release On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: [ x ] +1 Yes, please release Bye, Norman 2011/7/14 Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com: Hi there, I think we are now finaly ok after a few problems with the last snapshots which was uploaded for release. So please review the artifacts and cast your vote: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-026/ [ ] +1 Yes, please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 Something wrong Ps: The parent pom and the source seems to be there now - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://open-garage.blogspot.com LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache James Server 3.0-beta3
+1 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there, I think we are now finaly ok after a few problems with the last snapshots which was uploaded for release. For those who want to run the application built from these server components, see http://people.apache.org/~rdonkin/james/ Source is in https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-026/org/apache/james/james-server/3.0-beta3/ For anyone who wants some help reviewing these components and has Python and wget (only checked on Linux, I'm afraid) then in a suitable empty directory snip $ PYTHONPATH=eye python eye/apache-rat-eye-meta-inf.py This should be $ PYTHONPATH=eye python eye/apache-rat-eye-meta-inf.py repository.apache.org Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Kind Regards... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://open-garage.blogspot.com LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Hupa (just curious)
It is probably dead. I am already doing something with Primefaces as UI and will release code in 2 months hopefully. As I have a full time job lot of work pressure, I need time to do this. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Felix Knecht fe...@otego.com wrote: Hi all I Hupa still a living project? I check trunk out it doesn't builds (mvn clean install). The last code change dates more than half a year ago. Regards Felix - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Hupa (just curious)
I do not have SVN check in access on this project. So I will probably upload it somewhere else and provide the link here. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Felix Knecht fel...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for clearification. I'm looking forward :-) Regards Felix On 02/23/2011 01:51 PM, Dhrubo wrote: It is probably dead. I am already doing something with Primefaces as UI and will release code in 2 months hopefully. As I have a full time job lot of work pressure, I need time to do this. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Felix Knechtfe...@otego.com wrote: Hi all I Hupa still a living project? I check trunk out it doesn't builds (mvn clean install). The last code change dates more than half a year ago. Regards Felix - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Run James on james-testing.de
This will be most useful. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, What I can provide: A box, a DNS record, my ssh skills. What would be needed beyond that to get this done? + mail accounts for JAMES committers + A JAMES install, config files + DB? + HUPA install? + ...? Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M2
+1 Yes please release On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, its time to start a VOTE for the second milestone of the upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). I know its not long since the last milestone but we fixed a bunch of bugs, and you know.. Release often;Release early ;) Here are the artifacts for review: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-043/ So please cast your VOTE: [ ] +1 Yes please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 No the code is not ready yet. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Web Site update 20101028
very impressive indeed. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi Everybody, It would be great if you could review the following: http://james.apache.org - Home: less bullet, vertical layout, mention of hupa project - Releases: mention of maven repos for missing projects http://james.apache.org/server/ - Home: less bullet, vertical layout, feature matrix update (- would put it in a tabbed layout with jquery javascript framework to lighten the content, also add some tabs such as video,... a bit like http://cassandra.apache.org) - some links to server 2.x to archive http://james.apache.org/server/3/ - All 3 releases would go to /server/3 directory - Home: more user-oriented with key characteristics and images - Menu review: Overview, Features, User Manual, Developers Corner - Some pages are ok, some are empty, some need to be reviewed/corrected/revamped. http://james.apache.org/imap http://james.apache.org/protocols - No more broken links http://james.apache.org/mailbox (forgot to update it, don't look at it now) Also top and left menu updated for all the above sites. Waiting your comments Tks, Eric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
Yes I am fully aware of this. Let me see. I opted to see as the team was readying for 3.x release I will contribute for sure. But will launch the other project on sf.net till then Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: It can be done very well. But I am a new bee and not a committer in this project. It's a hen-egg thing. If you fancy becoming a committer, you'd need to contribute code to James first. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
I will try to fix bugs which are in my ability on core James server project. Working on the server admin project I think will allow me to learn more about the server in general. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Yes exactly ;) But starting to code on a webadmin project and then contribute it to james is maybe not the worst thing ;) Bye, Norman 2010/10/27 Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: It can be done very well. But I am a new bee and not a committer in this project. It's a hen-egg thing. If you fancy becoming a committer, you'd need to contribute code to James first. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
Eric, Your code will be the starting point. But will use JMX services. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: If the James project would take my project you are welcome to it. Regards, Eric MacAdie On 10/27/2010 7:15 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: Yes exactly ;) But starting to code on a webadmin project and then contribute it to james is maybe not the worst thing ;) Bye, Norman 2010/10/27 Bernd Fondermannbernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00, Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: It can be done very well. But I am a new bee and not a committer in this project. It's a hen-egg thing. If you fancy becoming a committer, you'd need to contribute code to James first. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Where are logo src (gimp,...)?
Green one looks good Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Simon Funnell simon.funn...@propositum.biz wrote: Have been playing with colour variations and think I have some results: http://propositum.biz/james.html I prefer the green one myself, gives a sense of fluid ecology/economics. The tag line font is Lucida Sans Type/Console. I can do a polish job and provide the necessary source/formats if given a spec. Regards, Simon On 18/10/10 10:39, Eric Charles wrote: Hi Robert, Will tell if we need some bitmap texts. Tks :) Based on community inputs, we will soon launch a call for a new logo. Tks, Eric On 18/10/2010 10:48, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Eric Charlese...@apache.org wrote: Hi Stefano, I looked for a place to download Florentine URW Regular font and eventually put it in svn, but it seems that we need to pay for that (20 to 40$, depends where). I have no plan to use it atm, but was just thinking it would be good to have it under the hand, just in case we need it one day. But even it has been bought, I suppose it would not be possible to put it in svn (apache 2.0 licence). i bought a license for the font but - yes - it's not distributable... given details, i'll commit required words as an image (typing time finished) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
http://jamesconsole.sourceforge.net/ Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: So what is the URL for your project? Regards, Eric MacAdie On 10/27/2010 7:37 AM, Dhrubo wrote: Eric, Your code will be the starting point. But will use JMX services. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Eric MacAdiee...@macadie.net wrote: If the James project would take my project you are welcome to it. Regards, Eric MacAdie On 10/27/2010 7:15 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: Yes exactly ;) But starting to code on a webadmin project and then contribute it to james is maybe not the worst thing ;) Bye, Norman 2010/10/27 Bernd Fondermannbernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00, Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: It can be done very well. But I am a new bee and not a committer in this project. It's a hen-egg thing. If you fancy becoming a committer, you'd need to contribute code to James first. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
It can be done very well. But I am a new bee and not a committer in this project. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: (I might have missed some prior discussion, I apologize in this case) any non-technical reasons why this effort is not done here at Apache in the first place? Bernd On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 07:44, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Planning to name this as JAMESConsole - any other suggestion and feedback welcome. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful James. Your response is highly appreciated. I am forking your code and moving it to SF.net as I am more comfortable out there. As discussed by the veteran pros, I will be focusing on using JMX to connect and manage things. I guess using JMX abstraction will shield from db schema changes etc. This will soley be focused to James 3 and higher. I will try to reuse your code as far as possible. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: My web app project uses JSF and Hibernate to manage a James instance via the database. It can add users, delete users, get stats on how many messages are waiting to be read, and delete messages in the deadletter table. It uses the current James schema. I don't know if the schema will change in James 3. It is intended to be pretty small and usable by the retail user; I am running James on a VPS account. I really don't have access to large enterprise servers. If people want to modify it to use the James 3 schema or JMX, that is fine with me. http://github.com/emacadie/James-Admin-Web-App Regards, Eric MacAdie On 10/26/2010 12:01 AM, Dhrubo wrote: Just as an update. I am still waiting for Eric who runs the admin project on github to respond. I have set a deadline of this month to see if he gets time to respond. Else will start a new one (on source forge and may be added to apache in future if all agrees) Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Normannor...@apache.org wrote: Yes you are right.. it use spring as container.. Bye, Norman Am 26.10.2010 04:56, schrieb Dhrubo: If I am not wrong, this new version is Spring and not Avalon? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, just to keep you updated. Eric and me have now deployed current trunk into production. If no problems popup within the next day I will cut a VOTE on current trunk for M1. So stay tuned. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: James 2.x web site
+1 Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The left menu of http://james.apache.org/server/index.html has now: Development 3.0 Candidate 2.3.2 Server 2.3.1 Server 2.3.0 Server 2.2.0 Archive If you click for example on Candidate 2.3.2, you're going to http://james.apache.org/server/2.3.2/index.html, and you can click from there on the left menu (bottom) Download Nightly builds that drives you to http://people.apache.org/builds/james/nightly/. This url is no more updated since 27-Apr-2010. The menus (top and left) are also from the previous skin, so not in line with the new one. I would like to propose a new menu Sever 3.0 Server 2.3.2 Archive ... and move the Server 2.3.1, 2.3.0, 2.2.0 to the Archive page. The 2.3.2 would need to get regenerated and republished. If ok with this, there is 3 actions: - Republish 2.3.2: I tried to build the site, but it fails to download the needed dependency. I will retry from another internet connection. - In the index pages, push users to download and try 3.0-M1 rather than the stable 2.3.2. - Automatically update the nightly dir. if needed, cause we already have two places to download the snapshots; hudson and maven snaphot repo. (We already had users trying the outdated 27-Apr 3.0 bundle). Tks, Eric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1
+1 Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include tones of improvements,features and bugfixes. I think one of the most important things for normal users is the support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP. To get a complete list see: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411styleName=Htmlversion=12314294 Here are the artifacts for review: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/ So please cast your VOTE: [ ] +1 Yes please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 No the code is not ready yet. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Web site update 20101025
Found a broken link http://james.apache.org/server/head/concept_smtp_hooks.html Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The following web sites have been updated: - http://james.apache.org/protocols/ - http://james.apache.org/imap/ - http://james.apache.org/mailbox/ Can you review them? : content, typos,... (before shooting me for my broken-english, reply with the corrections so I can inject them, and shoot me after :) Tks, Eric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
If I am not wrong, this new version is Spring and not Avalon? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, just to keep you updated. Eric and me have now deployed current trunk into production. If no problems popup within the next day I will cut a VOTE on current trunk for M1. So stay tuned. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: JAMES Server 3.0-M1 almost ready
Just as an update. I am still waiting for Eric who runs the admin project on github to respond. I have set a deadline of this month to see if he gets time to respond. Else will start a new one (on source forge and may be added to apache in future if all agrees) Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Norman nor...@apache.org wrote: Yes you are right.. it use spring as container.. Bye, Norman Am 26.10.2010 04:56, schrieb Dhrubo: If I am not wrong, this new version is Spring and not Avalon? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, just to keep you updated. Eric and me have now deployed current trunk into production. If no problems popup within the next day I will cut a VOTE on current trunk for M1. So stay tuned. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove RemoteManager after M1
Robert, Not sure if I have got you right. Independent management product - you mean say an web app deployed on tomcat using some kind of remoting to manage james? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Sounds good :) I think using JMX calls would be preferable .. IIRC RemoteManager has issues which prevent the rest of james moving forward. though i find RemoteManager useful and had some plans, i think removing it from trunk would be the best strategy. i would prefer an independent management product for james (whether using JMX transport or not) to an integrated one. if anyone is interested then coding up something based on whatever's useful in RemoteManager in a sandbox then that'd work for me much better than trying to work within james. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove RemoteManager after M1
I can start this from Monday. Do you want me to create a JIRA ISSUE? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: If there is willing to contribute to it, sure.. Just call JMX stuff from webapp etc. Bye, Norman 2010/10/23 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Norman, Can we consider a web UI based admin console for James post installation? I am ready to put 4 hrs of my time if we intend to do this? I think we should do away with the remote manager. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, after spend some time on implementing JMX management stuff for JAMES I think we should get rid of RemoteManager and just use JMX for management. To make it more easy to use for normal users I would like to create a command line interface which use JMX calls to add users etc. Something like cassandra does with its nodetool. So you can easily do management from command line or JMX. Whatever you prefer. WDYT ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove RemoteManager after M1
Appreciated Eric. I am investigating. Also do not see much into project HUPA? Also I am interested in seeing a Zimbra desktop like tool for James. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi Dhrubo, For doc purposes, I took screenshots of jmanage accessing James' jmx. This gives basic functionalites, but there is plenty of room to give a better web application management. There's already an initiative to develop a web management interface (not via jmx, it was not available at that time). http://markmail.org/thread/g4soq47nlbmom2ee Maybe you can contact that project and see how it can evolve. (Would be good no to have tons of web management interfaces). Tks, Eric On 23/10/2010 16:49, Dhrubo wrote: I can start this from Monday. Do you want me to create a JIRA ISSUE? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: If there is willing to contribute to it, sure.. Just call JMX stuff from webapp etc. Bye, Norman 2010/10/23 Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Norman, Can we consider a web UI based admin console for James post installation? I am ready to put 4 hrs of my time if we intend to do this? I think we should do away with the remote manager. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, after spend some time on implementing JMX management stuff for JAMES I think we should get rid of RemoteManager and just use JMX for management. To make it more easy to use for normal users I would like to create a command line interface which use JMX calls to add users etc. Something like cassandra does with its nodetool. So you can easily do management from command line or JMX. Whatever you prefer. WDYT ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove RemoteManager after M1
No i am trying to contact eric of web admin project on github Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: ...of course, if you prefer start from scratch a web management from scratch with your favorite mvc framework, go ahead :) As far as I understand, the goal of HUPA is to provide a web interface client-side, not management-side, but I'm not the right person to talk about that and may miss some hupa goals. Extensions to zimbra-like functions are not on the today diary. Tks, Eric On 23/10/2010 17:12, Dhrubo wrote: Appreciated Eric. I am investigating. Also do not see much into project HUPA? Also I am interested in seeing a Zimbra desktop like tool for James. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eric Charlese...@apache.org wrote: Hi Dhrubo, For doc purposes, I took screenshots of jmanage accessing James' jmx. This gives basic functionalites, but there is plenty of room to give a better web application management. There's already an initiative to develop a web management interface (not via jmx, it was not available at that time). http://markmail.org/thread/g4soq47nlbmom2ee Maybe you can contact that project and see how it can evolve. (Would be good no to have tons of web management interfaces). Tks, Eric On 23/10/2010 16:49, Dhrubo wrote: I can start this from Monday. Do you want me to create a JIRA ISSUE? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: If there is willing to contribute to it, sure.. Just call JMX stuff from webapp etc. Bye, Norman 2010/10/23 Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Norman, Can we consider a web UI based admin console for James post installation? I am ready to put 4 hrs of my time if we intend to do this? I think we should do away with the remote manager. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, after spend some time on implementing JMX management stuff for JAMES I think we should get rid of RemoteManager and just use JMX for management. To make it more easy to use for normal users I would like to create a command line interface which use JMX calls to add users etc. Something like cassandra does with its nodetool. So you can easily do management from command line or JMX. Whatever you prefer. WDYT ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Where are logo src (gimp,...)?
The one on left top - blue + green looks good - very vibrant. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Simon Funnell simon.funn...@propositum.biz wrote: I am afraid my application of colour is far from good, I will try to find a better scheme over this week. I attempted this: http://propositum.biz/james.html earlier in the week but had to add a darker colour over the top to make it readable on a white background. If there are any suggestions for a specific colour/colours I will do my best to oblige. Regards, Simon On 17/10/10 13:18, Dhrubo wrote: Simon, You have done an excellent job. It will be very nice if you select a vibrant color. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Simon Funnell simon.funn...@propositum.biz mailto:simon.funn...@propositum.biz wrote: I probably couldn't do much better than the one submitted, I could change the colours and remove the feathers (and also provide the source files with any disclaimers or what not). This one has got the feathers from the last one but done in a modern style (some continuation) and a nice solid but fresh looking font/feel (communicating the reliability, robustness and modern design of James3, the current font does give the impression of being a little dainty/flimsy). If someone else can produce a more appropriate/liked rendition I do not mind. Regards, Simon On 17/10/10 06:55, Dhrubo wrote: Can we make this log simpler please. - dhrubo On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Eric Charlese...@apache.org mailto:e...@apache.org wrote: Hi Simon, Tks for the proposal. So, probably we should launch a contest for a new logo :) Eric On 16/10/2010 18:47, Simon Funnell wrote: I did a logo for fun here: http://propositum.biz/james.html Unfortunately the font also costs about the same: http://www.linotype.com/487329/bumblebeeonthemoon-font.html I don't know the full implications of licensing arrangements but you are welcome to have/use/[appropriate legal definition] it. Regards, Simon On 16/10/10 13:30, Eric Charles wrote: Hi Stefano, I looked for a place to download Florentine URW Regular font and eventually put it in svn, but it seems that we need to pay for that (20 to 40$, depends where). I have no plan to use it atm, but was just thinking it would be good to have it under the hand, just in case we need it one day. But even it has been bought, I suppose it would not be possible to put it in svn (apache 2.0 licence). Tks, Eric On 16/10/2010 12:01, Stefano Bagnara wrote: 2010/10/16 Eric Charlese...@apache.org mailto:e...@apache.org: Hi, While working on website (and thinking to presentation/marketing stufff), I was wondering if someone know where I can find the src of the James logo. There are already a few declinations of this logo: http://james.apache.org/server/images/james-server-logo.gif http://james.apache.org/mailet/api/images/james-mailetapi-logo.gif I searched in svn, but did not find any gimp, photoshop, ttf, otf,... files. This will be needed to further work James brand on web site, twitter,... Hi Eric, I just can tell you that the font is this one: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/florentine/urw-t-regular/ I don't think we have any source for the logo: when I did some new image 3 years ago I simply adapted (bitmap editing) the old ones adding text from the above font. Stefano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org mailto:server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove RemoteManager after M1
I have written to Eric, who is writing a web admin project on github. I will wait for few days to see what he has to say. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Sounds good :) I think using JMX calls would be preferable .. Bye, Norman 2010/10/23 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: No i am trying to contact eric of web admin project on github Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: ...of course, if you prefer start from scratch a web management from scratch with your favorite mvc framework, go ahead :) As far as I understand, the goal of HUPA is to provide a web interface client-side, not management-side, but I'm not the right person to talk about that and may miss some hupa goals. Extensions to zimbra-like functions are not on the today diary. Tks, Eric On 23/10/2010 17:12, Dhrubo wrote: Appreciated Eric. I am investigating. Also do not see much into project HUPA? Also I am interested in seeing a Zimbra desktop like tool for James. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eric Charlese...@apache.org wrote: Hi Dhrubo, For doc purposes, I took screenshots of jmanage accessing James' jmx. This gives basic functionalites, but there is plenty of room to give a better web application management. There's already an initiative to develop a web management interface (not via jmx, it was not available at that time). http://markmail.org/thread/g4soq47nlbmom2ee Maybe you can contact that project and see how it can evolve. (Would be good no to have tons of web management interfaces). Tks, Eric On 23/10/2010 16:49, Dhrubo wrote: I can start this from Monday. Do you want me to create a JIRA ISSUE? Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: If there is willing to contribute to it, sure.. Just call JMX stuff from webapp etc. Bye, Norman 2010/10/23 Dhrubodhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Norman, Can we consider a web UI based admin console for James post installation? I am ready to put 4 hrs of my time if we intend to do this? I think we should do away with the remote manager. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Norman Maurernor...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, after spend some time on implementing JMX management stuff for JAMES I think we should get rid of RemoteManager and just use JMX for management. To make it more easy to use for normal users I would like to create a command line interface which use JMX calls to add users etc. Something like cassandra does with its nodetool. So you can easily do management from command line or JMX. Whatever you prefer. WDYT ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Where are logo src (gimp,...)?
Simon, You have done an excellent job. It will be very nice if you select a vibrant color. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Simon Funnell simon.funn...@propositum.biz wrote: I probably couldn't do much better than the one submitted, I could change the colours and remove the feathers (and also provide the source files with any disclaimers or what not). This one has got the feathers from the last one but done in a modern style (some continuation) and a nice solid but fresh looking font/feel (communicating the reliability, robustness and modern design of James3, the current font does give the impression of being a little dainty/flimsy). If someone else can produce a more appropriate/liked rendition I do not mind. Regards, Simon On 17/10/10 06:55, Dhrubo wrote: Can we make this log simpler please. - dhrubo On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Eric Charlese...@apache.org wrote: Hi Simon, Tks for the proposal. So, probably we should launch a contest for a new logo :) Eric On 16/10/2010 18:47, Simon Funnell wrote: I did a logo for fun here: http://propositum.biz/james.html Unfortunately the font also costs about the same: http://www.linotype.com/487329/bumblebeeonthemoon-font.html I don't know the full implications of licensing arrangements but you are welcome to have/use/[appropriate legal definition] it. Regards, Simon On 16/10/10 13:30, Eric Charles wrote: Hi Stefano, I looked for a place to download Florentine URW Regular font and eventually put it in svn, but it seems that we need to pay for that (20 to 40$, depends where). I have no plan to use it atm, but was just thinking it would be good to have it under the hand, just in case we need it one day. But even it has been bought, I suppose it would not be possible to put it in svn (apache 2.0 licence). Tks, Eric On 16/10/2010 12:01, Stefano Bagnara wrote: 2010/10/16 Eric Charlese...@apache.org: Hi, While working on website (and thinking to presentation/marketing stufff), I was wondering if someone know where I can find the src of the James logo. There are already a few declinations of this logo: http://james.apache.org/server/images/james-server-logo.gif http://james.apache.org/mailet/api/images/james-mailetapi-logo.gif I searched in svn, but did not find any gimp, photoshop, ttf, otf,... files. This will be needed to further work James brand on web site, twitter,... Hi Eric, I just can tell you that the font is this one: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/florentine/urw-t-regular/ I don't think we have any source for the logo: when I did some new image 3 years ago I simply adapted (bitmap editing) the old ones adding text from the above font. Stefano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Where are logo src (gimp,...)?
Can we make this log simpler please. - dhrubo On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi Simon, Tks for the proposal. So, probably we should launch a contest for a new logo :) Eric On 16/10/2010 18:47, Simon Funnell wrote: I did a logo for fun here: http://propositum.biz/james.html Unfortunately the font also costs about the same: http://www.linotype.com/487329/bumblebeeonthemoon-font.html I don't know the full implications of licensing arrangements but you are welcome to have/use/[appropriate legal definition] it. Regards, Simon On 16/10/10 13:30, Eric Charles wrote: Hi Stefano, I looked for a place to download Florentine URW Regular font and eventually put it in svn, but it seems that we need to pay for that (20 to 40$, depends where). I have no plan to use it atm, but was just thinking it would be good to have it under the hand, just in case we need it one day. But even it has been bought, I suppose it would not be possible to put it in svn (apache 2.0 licence). Tks, Eric On 16/10/2010 12:01, Stefano Bagnara wrote: 2010/10/16 Eric Charlese...@apache.org: Hi, While working on website (and thinking to presentation/marketing stufff), I was wondering if someone know where I can find the src of the James logo. There are already a few declinations of this logo: http://james.apache.org/server/images/james-server-logo.gif http://james.apache.org/mailet/api/images/james-mailetapi-logo.gif I searched in svn, but did not find any gimp, photoshop, ttf, otf,... files. This will be needed to further work James brand on web site, twitter,... Hi Eric, I just can tell you that the font is this one: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/florentine/urw-t-regular/ I don't think we have any source for the logo: when I did some new image 3 years ago I simply adapted (bitmap editing) the old ones adding text from the above font. Stefano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release of protocols-1.2-M1
[ x ] +1 Looks good Never stop releasing good stuff. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Norman nor...@apache.org wrote: [ x ] +1 Looks good, please release Bye, Norman Am 15.10.2010 07:16, schrieb Norman: Hi there, we are currently doing the last steps to get ready for cut the first milestone of JAMES server. For doing so we need a new release of protocols. So I prepared one and staged it fro review.. So here we go, please review and cast your VOTE: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/ [ ] +1 Looks good, please release [ ] +0 No time to review [ ] -1 No release pelase Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Spring migration
Thanks Eric. I will get started ASAP. Kind Regards... Dhrubo On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org wrote: Hi, James 3 will be soon release and runs on Spring. You can check it out from http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/. Just compile it with mvn package and use it (dist zip is in spring-deployement/target). There some open JIRA for 3.0-M1 on https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseVersion.jspa?id=10411versionId=12314294showOpenIssuesOnly=true, but come back on mailing list to talk about. Tks, Eric On 9/10/2010 06:10, Dhrubo wrote: Hello All, I would like to contribute to the Spring port of JAMES. It will be very good if some one tells me the steps. I do not see any bug tracker for the Spring port yet on JIRA. Kind Regards... Dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
Spring migration
Hello All, I would like to contribute to the Spring port of JAMES. It will be very good if some one tells me the steps. I do not see any bug tracker for the Spring port yet on JIRA. Kind Regards... Dhrubo
Re: [IMAP] JCR Mailbox (Tasks for Robert =P)
If you are trying to just build a JCR pluggable module please do not use spring-module for Jackrabbit Its buggy and assumes a JDBC datasource like session factory implementation with just 1 user based session. So suggest using a customer wrapper over Jcr support of Jackrabbit with per user session needed here. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi Robert, as you have asked about what are the right tasks for you for IMAP (when you are back), I would be really interested in seeing a JCR based Mailbox in IMAP. I had not the cycles yet to start and as you seems ti have more expirience with JCR as I do it just seems like a good idea to me to let you write it ;) So does this sound like something you would enjoy ? Bye, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [IMAP] JCR Mailbox (Tasks for Robert =P)
I have been working a lot with Jackrabbit of late. Yes Jcr has a concept of session bt no session factory as such. The repository itself is a session factory so a call Repository.login() should give you a session object to work with. Spring module is a project - hosted both on java.net and sf which tries to make JCR repository access much like JDBC with templates and session factory and dao support. But it fails (as per my tests) when transactional support is required. Where I see the value of this JCR repository is with the web mail client. A web mail client can directly access this repository instead of going through the JAMES server to access the emails(retrieve). It opens up lot of possibilities like GMAIL like threaded email. One important thing to consider is = how you merge the security module of JAMES with that of JACKRABBIT, there is a lot of challenge. I wish I could contribute with code here rather than dry theories, but other engagements are keeping me nose deep waters. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, can you give me some more details about spring-modules and the noted problems ? BTW, the module itself should not depend on any implementation and just give you a Session object to work with.. Bye, Norman PS: And contributions welcome ;) 2010/1/20 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: If you are trying to just build a JCR pluggable module please do not use spring-module for Jackrabbit Its buggy and assumes a JDBC datasource like session factory implementation with just 1 user based session. So suggest using a customer wrapper over Jcr support of Jackrabbit with per user session needed here. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi Robert, as you have asked about what are the right tasks for you for IMAP (when you are back), I would be really interested in seeing a JCR based Mailbox in IMAP. I had not the cycles yet to start and as you seems ti have more expirience with JCR as I do it just seems like a good idea to me to let you write it ;) So does this sound like something you would enjoy ? Bye, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: MailRepository and MailboxManager
I am also for single repository and 2 views That way no migration or move is required. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Mario Zsilak mario.zsi...@inew-cs.comwrote: +1 However, one comment: I would like to see that, if a POP3 user fetches his mails, he shall see all of them (in all folders) - with the difference to IMAP that he doesn't see his folder structure but only INBOX. At least it should be configurable. What I can say from my experience in my company: After 4 years of POP3, we finally convinced the company management to upgrade our email package (hosted service) so that it includes IMAP. The domain hoster told us that they can't migrate users / mails from POP3 to IMAP and we had to do it manually ... Let's do it better! OK, we may use RemoteManager and movemails, but I believe having a single Repository would be still better :) Kind regards, Mario -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: norman.mau...@googlemail.com [mailto:norman.mau...@googlemail.com] Im Auftrag von Norman Maurer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 12:38 An: James Developers List Betreff: MailRepository and MailboxManager Hi all, after I already brought this up some time in the past I thought a bit more about MailRepository and MailboxManager. I'm still in favor to just use one Repository for IMAP and POP3. I think its a no go to ship different storages for the protocols. I know the requirement for POP3 and IMAP are totally different but shouldn't it be possible to write some adapter which will just expose the Mails via the MailRepository interface but use an underlying MailboxManager to fetch it ? So when an User would use IMAP he would get all he features of MailboxManager, if he use POP3 he will just see the emails in the Folder INBOX. Thats exactly how many unix mailserver do it. Like Dovecot, Courier etc. So it can't be the worst idea =P Then we could mark the old implementations with @deprecated and remove them later, or beeing more radical remove them now. Mailmigration could just work with the RemoteManager and movemails command. WDYT ? I think I remember Robert didn'T like the idea to much in the past.. Bye, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: MailRepository and MailboxManager
Agreed. Can we add a migration util ;) On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: When I talk about migration I'm talkin about users which already have emails in their inboxes (for example because they use james-2.3.x and want to upgrade). For new emails only the new repository should be used. Just to make it clear Bye, Norman 2010/1/20 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: I am also for single repository and 2 views That way no migration or move is required. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Mario Zsilak mario.zsi...@inew-cs.com wrote: +1 However, one comment: I would like to see that, if a POP3 user fetches his mails, he shall see all of them (in all folders) - with the difference to IMAP that he doesn't see his folder structure but only INBOX. At least it should be configurable. What I can say from my experience in my company: After 4 years of POP3, we finally convinced the company management to upgrade our email package (hosted service) so that it includes IMAP. The domain hoster told us that they can't migrate users / mails from POP3 to IMAP and we had to do it manually ... Let's do it better! OK, we may use RemoteManager and movemails, but I believe having a single Repository would be still better :) Kind regards, Mario -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: norman.mau...@googlemail.com [mailto:norman.mau...@googlemail.com ] Im Auftrag von Norman Maurer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 12:38 An: James Developers List Betreff: MailRepository and MailboxManager Hi all, after I already brought this up some time in the past I thought a bit more about MailRepository and MailboxManager. I'm still in favor to just use one Repository for IMAP and POP3. I think its a no go to ship different storages for the protocols. I know the requirement for POP3 and IMAP are totally different but shouldn't it be possible to write some adapter which will just expose the Mails via the MailRepository interface but use an underlying MailboxManager to fetch it ? So when an User would use IMAP he would get all he features of MailboxManager, if he use POP3 he will just see the emails in the Folder INBOX. Thats exactly how many unix mailserver do it. Like Dovecot, Courier etc. So it can't be the worst idea =P Then we could mark the old implementations with @deprecated and remove them later, or beeing more radical remove them now. Mailmigration could just work with the RemoteManager and movemails command. WDYT ? I think I remember Robert didn'T like the idea to much in the past.. Bye, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Release James-Project 1.5
+1 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, in order to release imap, james-server etc we need to release a new James-Project version to inherit from the new apache parent pom which includes the right maven2 repository for apache libraries. So I would like to start a vote for this. The poms are only used internal by james-products, anyway I think we need a vote. I used 1.5 as version for all included sub-modules. Please review: http://people.apache.org/~norman/staging-repository/org/apache/james/http://people.apache.org/%7Enorman/staging-repository/org/apache/james/ So here we go: [+1] Please release it as it is [+0] No time to review [-1] No release please... Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: RESULT: [VOTE] Pure Spring deployment ready to merge
Awesome. My appologies - I promised but did not contribute anything due to some other critical commitments Great work Norman. I strongly feel we need a much better documentation on JAMES as the next thing. Something say in line with TOMCAT. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi all, It seems we all share the same vision. As I got no VETO I will start the merge to trunk soon. Thx again to everyone for the support. Just for the record: +1 Stefano (*), Norman(*), Manolo(+), Bernd(+), Mario, Dhrubo +0 Robert(*), Vincenzo(*) -1 (*) = Binding (PMC (+) = Non-Binding (Committers) Bye, Norman 2010/1/4 Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com: I will close the VOTE on 6.01.2010 10:00 PM. Thx for your support :) Bye, Norman 2010/1/4 Bernd Fondermann bf_...@brainlounge.de: Norman Maurer wrote: Hi all, the last days I worked on getting a pure spring deployment complete for James so we could remove the whole phoenix stuff etc. The code is now complete and is working here in production without problems. You can find the code under: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ The pure spring deployment use JSR250 todo all the dependency injection. It still support the Avalon lifecycle stuff to be able to use the cornerstone components in the deployment. I would like to merge it to trunk and remove the phoenix deployment at all. This would allow us to just have one deployment (which is still active developed) and hopefully more new developers will get interested in James again. When its merged I will add some docs howto migrate from phoenix deployment to the new one (its straight forward). After this is done I would like to cut a milestone so we get some more testers. So here we go: [X] +1 (not binding ;-) Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Question about Spring
I suggest dont jump into new version too soon. Please continue with the old running version that you have. Once we make a stable release with documentation please make a move. I will be happy to help you. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: Thanks for the info. Someone just posted that documentation is a problem. I think there needs to be some documentation on the source code tree. I have used ClearCase in the past, so I know the general concepts of source control, but it would still be nice to have some info posted on what URLs are used for particular branches. Looking through the tree at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/, it is not clear to me what all the branches and directories are. It would be great if there was a page that had info like: If you want to check out the most recent stable release, use this command: svn co http://stable/release/here/you/go If you want to check out the Spring experimental code, use this command: svn co http://spring/branch/1/2/3 If you want to check out the cutting-edge code that does such-and-such, use this command: svn co http://use/at/own/risk/but/gosh/its/cool Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee Norman Maurer wrote: Hi Eric, yes exactly. Then just build is with: # ant dist BTW, I will merge the branch to trunk later today so you will find it in trunk tomorrow ;) Bye, Norman 2010/1/6 Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net: Can I grab it by running the command svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced muh-KAY-dee Norman Maurer wrote: Hi Eric, first of yes it should just work with coping the config.xml :) Anyway if you want to use Spring you even could give the pure-spring deployment a try to see if it works for you. Its currently located in a sandbox and hopefully will get merged soon to trunk to remove the whole phoenix stuff (Just wait for more votes ;)). You can grab it from here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ and build it with: # ant clean dist After that just copy your config.xml to conf/james-config.xml. Any feedback is welcome :) Bye, Norman 2010/1/4 Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net: I just downloaded the Spring milestone to my desktop, and I got it to run, even though I do not use this as a mail server. I know at this point this is use at your own risk, but: Could I just upload this to a server and use my current config.xml and copy it to james-server-spring-deployment-3.0-M1/conf/james-config.xml and have everything work? Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Question about Spring
With Spring shift it will be much easier for all. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: I do not plan on jumping to the new version until it is ready. But knowing where the code is would make it easier to get involved with development. This is not an easy project to get involved with. Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee Dhrubo wrote: I suggest dont jump into new version too soon. Please continue with the old running version that you have. Once we make a stable release with documentation please make a move. I will be happy to help you. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: Thanks for the info. Someone just posted that documentation is a problem. I think there needs to be some documentation on the source code tree. I have used ClearCase in the past, so I know the general concepts of source control, but it would still be nice to have some info posted on what URLs are used for particular branches. Looking through the tree at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/, it is not clear to me what all the branches and directories are. It would be great if there was a page that had info like: If you want to check out the most recent stable release, use this command: svn co http://stable/release/here/you/go If you want to check out the Spring experimental code, use this command: svn co http://spring/branch/1/2/3 If you want to check out the cutting-edge code that does such-and-such, use this command: svn co http://use/at/own/risk/but/gosh/its/cool Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee Norman Maurer wrote: Hi Eric, yes exactly. Then just build is with: # ant dist BTW, I will merge the branch to trunk later today so you will find it in trunk tomorrow ;) Bye, Norman 2010/1/6 Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net: Can I grab it by running the command svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced muh-KAY-dee Norman Maurer wrote: Hi Eric, first of yes it should just work with coping the config.xml :) Anyway if you want to use Spring you even could give the pure-spring deployment a try to see if it works for you. Its currently located in a sandbox and hopefully will get merged soon to trunk to remove the whole phoenix stuff (Just wait for more votes ;)). You can grab it from here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ and build it with: # ant clean dist After that just copy your config.xml to conf/james-config.xml. Any feedback is welcome :) Bye, Norman 2010/1/4 Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net: I just downloaded the Spring milestone to my desktop, and I got it to run, even though I do not use this as a mail server. I know at this point this is use at your own risk, but: Could I just upload this to a server and use my current config.xml and copy it to james-server-spring-deployment-3.0-M1/conf/james-config.xml and have everything work? Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
We may consider embedding a JCR-170 repository - like Jackrabbit with Spring modules support. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all (Robert ;)), what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to use one of these too.. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Sorry plugging in should be a better option. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com wrote: We may consider embedding a JCR-170 repository - like Jackrabbit with Spring modules support. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all (Robert ;)), what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to use one of these too.. Thx, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: [VOTE] Pure Spring deployment ready to merge
+1 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, the last days I worked on getting a pure spring deployment complete for James so we could remove the whole phoenix stuff etc. The code is now complete and is working here in production without problems. You can find the code under: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ The pure spring deployment use JSR250 todo all the dependency injection. It still support the Avalon lifecycle stuff to be able to use the cornerstone components in the deployment. I would like to merge it to trunk and remove the phoenix deployment at all. This would allow us to just have one deployment (which is still active developed) and hopefully more new developers will get interested in James again. When its merged I will add some docs howto migrate from phoenix deployment to the new one (its straight forward). After this is done I would like to cut a milestone so we get some more testers. So here we go: [ ] +1 Yes please merge it so we can get rid of all the dead stuff ;) [ ] +0 I trust you enough but had not the energie to review the changes [ ] -1 No merge please Bye, Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Remove phoenix-deployment in favor of use pure Spring based deployment
Hi, Since you are trying Spring ... why not with Spring DM just a thought? Thanks ...dhrubo On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok because I didn't hear anything against this route I will go ahead and try to get this stuff done. Bye, Norman 2009/12/22 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Friends, Move towards pure Spring away from dead frameworks is highly appreciated. I think the move to a OSGi container may come in next release? Thanks ...dhrubo On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, as you all prolly know I tried to decouple james in the last couple of weeks from phoenix / avalon as much as possible. This task is now complete and James should just work within every container / framework which understand howto handle jsr250 injections. I thought about using OSGI + Karaf as container for James but I think that would require many reorganisation within the code to get it work like it should. So while using OSGI is prolly not the worst move to attract more users / developers I'm still not 100 % sure if its really a good idea at all. At the moment I tend to just remove the Avalon-Guice Adapter classes which I create for every component and let just handle spring the injection stuff. The Log and Configuration injection will get done via Spring by using a BeanPostProcessor (like its done in the current spring-avalon-bridge). So anyone against this radical move ? Bye, Norman Ps: This would eliminate the use of Guice again too - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Remove phoenix-deployment in favor of use pure Spring based deployment
No I just poped out the idea since we were considering putting James in OSGi Anyways if there is not enough time we can for this time stick to just spring I am very keen to contribute into this code into Spring. Let me know how I can be of some use. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: To Be honest, I never used spring-dm but used Spring alot. What is the benifit of using spring-dm ? Is it just OSGI? Thx Norman 2009/12/26, Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Hi, Since you are trying Spring ... why not with Spring DM just a thought? Thanks ...dhrubo On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok because I didn't hear anything against this route I will go ahead and try to get this stuff done. Bye, Norman 2009/12/22 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Friends, Move towards pure Spring away from dead frameworks is highly appreciated. I think the move to a OSGi container may come in next release? Thanks ...dhrubo On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, as you all prolly know I tried to decouple james in the last couple of weeks from phoenix / avalon as much as possible. This task is now complete and James should just work within every container / framework which understand howto handle jsr250 injections. I thought about using OSGI + Karaf as container for James but I think that would require many reorganisation within the code to get it work like it should. So while using OSGI is prolly not the worst move to attract more users / developers I'm still not 100 % sure if its really a good idea at all. At the moment I tend to just remove the Avalon-Guice Adapter classes which I create for every component and let just handle spring the injection stuff. The Log and Configuration injection will get done via Spring by using a BeanPostProcessor (like its done in the current spring-avalon-bridge). So anyone against this radical move ? Bye, Norman Ps: This would eliminate the use of Guice again too - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Remove phoenix-deployment in favor of use pure Spring based deployment
Nice point Eric. I will try to carry out a test and let you know. Till that time you continue with the older stable version. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Eric MacAdie e...@macadie.net wrote: I do not mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I do have one concern. I am running James on a VPS host with about 256 MB of memory, and right now James uses about 50 MB or so. I noticed from http://people.apache.org/builds/james/nightly/bin/ that the Spring version is twice as big as the Phoenix/Avalon version. I do not have a lot of memory to spare on my VPS account, and I would prefer not to upgrade (I am looking for a job and money is tight). If James with Spring slows stuff down, I may have to look for something else to handle email. Maybe I am making a big deal out of nothing, but a cursory glance makes it appear that size may be an issue. Other than that: +1 Regards, Eric MacAdie Pronounced: muh-KAY-dee Norman Maurer wrote: Hi all, as you all prolly know I tried to decouple james in the last couple of weeks from phoenix / avalon as much as possible. This task is now complete and James should just work within every container / framework which understand howto handle jsr250 injections. I thought about using OSGI + Karaf as container for James but I think that would require many reorganisation within the code to get it work like it should. So while using OSGI is prolly not the worst move to attract more users / developers I'm still not 100 % sure if its really a good idea at all. At the moment I tend to just remove the Avalon-Guice Adapter classes which I create for every component and let just handle spring the injection stuff. The Log and Configuration injection will get done via Spring by using a BeanPostProcessor (like its done in the current spring-avalon-bridge). So anyone against this radical move ? Bye, Norman Ps: This would eliminate the use of Guice again too - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: svn commit: r893986 - /james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/
Just downloading this. Will try to help in this sandbox as far as possible with my Spring skills. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:47 PM, nor...@apache.org wrote: Author: norman Date: Sat Dec 26 15:17:23 2009 New Revision: 893986 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=893986view=rev Log: add sandbox for pure spring deployment work Added: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ (props changed) - copied from r893985, james/server/trunk/ Propchange: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ -- --- svn:ignore (added) +++ svn:ignore Sat Dec 26 15:17:23 2009 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +.* +dist + +target + +bin Propchange: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ -- svn:mergeinfo = /james/server/sandbox/active/mina_experiments:824613-825114 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: svn commit: r893986 - /james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/
Yup should be OK. Yes let us use annotations to save too much of xml. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Norman Maurer norman.mau...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok perfect.. I think the first step I will perform is to let all classes which needs to handle configurations inplement org.apache.james.lifecycle.Configurable interface. Then use a BeanPostProcessor to inject it. The same is true for logging. Let all classes implement org.apache.james.lifecylce.LogEnabled and use a BeanPostProcessor. All the other injection will just use JSR250. Bye, Norman 2009/12/26 Dhrubo dhrubo.ka...@gmail.com: Just downloading this. Will try to help in this sandbox as far as possible with my Spring skills. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:47 PM, nor...@apache.org wrote: Author: norman Date: Sat Dec 26 15:17:23 2009 New Revision: 893986 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=893986view=rev Log: add sandbox for pure spring deployment work Added: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ (props changed) - copied from r893985, james/server/trunk/ Propchange: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ -- --- svn:ignore (added) +++ svn:ignore Sat Dec 26 15:17:23 2009 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +.* +dist + +target + +bin Propchange: james/server/sandbox/active/pure_spring_deployment/ -- svn:mergeinfo = /james/server/sandbox/active/mina_experiments:824613-825114 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
Re: Remove phoenix-deployment in favor of use pure Spring based deployment
Friends, Move towards pure Spring away from dead frameworks is highly appreciated. I think the move to a OSGi container may come in next release? Thanks ...dhrubo On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Norman Maurer nor...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, as you all prolly know I tried to decouple james in the last couple of weeks from phoenix / avalon as much as possible. This task is now complete and James should just work within every container / framework which understand howto handle jsr250 injections. I thought about using OSGI + Karaf as container for James but I think that would require many reorganisation within the code to get it work like it should. So while using OSGI is prolly not the worst move to attract more users / developers I'm still not 100 % sure if its really a good idea at all. At the moment I tend to just remove the Avalon-Guice Adapter classes which I create for every component and let just handle spring the injection stuff. The Log and Configuration injection will get done via Spring by using a BeanPostProcessor (like its done in the current spring-avalon-bridge). So anyone against this radical move ? Bye, Norman Ps: This would eliminate the use of Guice again too - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org -- Thanks ... Dhrubo My Book - http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210095 My Blog - http://www.jtraining.com/blogs/blogger/dhrubo/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhrubo
