Looks good!!! On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Eric Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hupa should also focus to decouple the 'services' from the 'ui'. > > If we have independent services for efficient IMAP mailbox read/write, > contact management, authentication/authorization..**. (name any), we can: > > 1.- Focus on those libraries without the ui concern - for example, my > current experience with hupa is that the mailboxes reading sometimes fails > due to (I think) latency,... > > 2.- Put any ui on top, GWT being the first developed, but any other one > could be further added. > > Thx, > Eric > > > > On 04/18/2012 05:20 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino wrote: > >> I've been taking a look to the demo, it looks pretty nice because of a >> good >> selection of css, I'll deep into the code when I had a while. >> >> You can see Hupa in action in either servers: >> http://hupa.alcala.org (it's a shared server I use, it could be down >> sometimes) >> http://james.zones.apache.org (it's a recent instance deployed in the >> James jail server). >> >> In order to use hupa you have to login with any gmail user (previously you >> have to enable imap in that user). >> >> - Manolo >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan<[email protected]>** >> wrote: >> >> Hi Dhurbo, Manolo, >>> >>> I think the developer doing the work should choose whatever platform >>> he is most comfortable with. Good code has to come out of his hands >>> and comfort aids that. Having both with be great (but most likely hard >>> to maintain in the long run). >>> >>> As a user I would like to see something usable that looks nice. I >>> wouldn't care if it where implemented in a specific platform. >>> >>> MyFaces mailbox demo looks very nice. I haven't checked Hupa demo (I >>> know Manolo has one installed, but I don't have a gmail test account >>> and I didn't see any SSL), maybe we should have a mocked HUPA install >>> like MyFaces one available online. I wonder what it will take to do >>> that? >>> >>> My cents ;). >>> Cheers, >>> >>> 2012/4/18 Dhrubo<[email protected]>**: >>> >>>> Manolo - >>>> Primefaces Mailbox template --- >>>> http://www.primefaces.org/**showcase-labs/ui/**layoutMailbox.jsf<http://www.primefaces.org/showcase-labs/ui/layoutMailbox.jsf> >>>> >>>> Its basic but good starting point. They have very rich component suite >>>> >>> also >>> >>>> you can look into Primefaces extensions for more layouts and Rich editor >>>> support besides what is provided by Primefaces itself. >>>> The extensions project is hosted here - >>>> http://code.google.com/p/**primefaces-extensions/<http://code.google.com/p/primefaces-extensions/> >>>> >>>> They also have their entire showcase online. >>>> >>>> Slight deviation - following the principles of Zimbra we can easily >>>> (hopefully) we can turn this webmail app into a desktop app like MS >>>> >>> OUTLOOK >>> >>>> or Thunderbird by embeding Jetty with Mozilla Prism (is it a dead >>>> >>> project i >>> >>>> guess) or some kind of XULRunner. >>>> >>>> Also I am available for any consultancy or help on Primefaces, JSF 2, >>>> Spring. I can also do lot of development as well provided I have a >>>> >>> commit >>> >>>> privilege on SVN :) . One big advantage I see using JSF 2 is modular app >>>> development. Please check this link - >>>> https://community.jboss.org/**wiki/ModularWebAppsWithJSF2?_**sscc=t<https://community.jboss.org/wiki/ModularWebAppsWithJSF2?_sscc=t> >>>> >>>> This can be further extended with Spring and Ant style configuration. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>> Dhrubo, Is there a site running the the webmail example of primefaces?, >>>>> >>>> or >>> >>>> is there a way to download the .war file?, I'd like to take a look. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> - Manolo >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Dhrubo<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do not intend to launch a debate on GWT v JSF 2. But JSF 2 is the >>>>>> >>>>> JEE >>> >>>> standard for UI and Primefaces comes with sample layout for webmail >>>>>> >>>>> which >>> >>>> may help you get started very fast. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dhrubo<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>> These days with JSF 2 frameworks like Primefaces et all we do not >>>>>>> >>>>>> really >>>>> >>>>>> need any js , ajax is out of the box and we need little html know >>>>>>> >>>>>> how >>> >>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also they come with more than standard layouts and theme support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James being an Apache product and Apache also develops JSF 2 imp, we >>>>>>> should use JSF 2 with easiest and huge set of components like in >>>>>>> >>>>>> Primefaces >>>>>> >>>>>>> which is excellent documented highly active community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So my two cents >>>>>>> +1 Primefaces >>>>>>> -1 GWT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please note I have no affiliation or neither work for Prime >>>>>>> >>>>>> Teknoloji >>> >>>> :) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino< >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -1 JSF2 >>>>>>>> +1 GWT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like JSF2, GWT is a proved technology, open sourced, and apache-2 >>>>>>>> licensed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GWT adds a set of benefices to James, mainly we continue being java >>>>>>>> centric >>>>>>>> and we dont need serious javascript, ajax nor html skills to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> understand >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> project, secondly we can deliver a product which is unit tested and >>>>>>>> javadoc-ed in all its components. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't want to expose the benefices of developing large rich apps >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> with >>>>> >>>>>> gwt >>>>>>>> vs hand-written js because there is a lot of literature along the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> web. >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> - Manolo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Dhrubo<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we should move to JSF 2 than GWT which is mostly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> controlled >>> >>>> by >>>>> >>>>>> one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> company. >>>>>>>>> Apache with its vision and endeavor for OSS we should use - JSF >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 - >>> >>>> Tomahawk (or Mojarra) + Primefaces >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan< >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pe 11.04.2012 18:48, echo a scris: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Manolo >>>>>>>>>>> Very glad to see your reply. The reason why I want to choose >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>> >>>> gwt-platform >>>>>>>>>>> was that it is more smoothly to update from current Hupa's >>>>>>>>>>> state(gwt-presenter). >>>>>>>>>>> However, I like the native one rather than gwtp since it will >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> import >>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> resources. What I really want to do is to replace the MVP by >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> gwt >>> >>>> itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was >>>>>>>>>>> just afraid whether I can complete the proposal before the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> deadline >>>>> >>>>>> of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> GSoC, so >>>>>>>>>>> I asked for you advices. If possible, I want to use the core >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mvp >>> >>>> in >>>>> >>>>>> gwt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> realize it. Over these days, I have been researching the Hupa >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> GWT >>>>>>>>>>> technology and later on I want to show you something I am >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> changing. >>>>> >>>>>> To the new features, I would like to implement as many >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> features, >>> >>>> that a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>>> email client should have, as possible not only during the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> GSoC >>> >>>> period, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but also >>>>>>>>>>> after that. And I am also keeping my eyes open on the Hupa's >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JIRA, >>>>> >>>>>> where >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>> wonderful ideas come out gradually. Sure I will give my deeper >>>>>>>>>>> discription after >>>>>>>>>>> my researching. I don't think it will be late. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wish you a happy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Echo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been reading your application and it looks right to me. >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I see is that you have selected gwt-platform >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> instead >>> >>>> of >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> core mvp in gwt but you don't say any reason about why you >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> prefer >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> first option. >>>>>>>>>>>> Also I'd like a deeper description of how you pretend to >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> face >>> >>>> new >>>>> >>>>>> features, I mean components, persistence, customization etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> - Manolo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> echo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Echo, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sound good. I'm not familiar with GWT and I would like to know >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> more. >>>>> >>>>>> Good >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> luck with your research and send us the findings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Ioan Eugen Stan >>>>>>>>>> http://ieugen.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------** >>> --**--------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> apache.org >>> >>>> < >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> server-dev-unsubscribe@james.**apache.org<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **org< >>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Kind Regards... 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