Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-25 Thread Serge Knystautas

On 7/23/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think that clover, code duplication reports, test results, the
dependencies report, the taglist, the changelog, and much other are
useful to me.
Btw I don't care to publish them to our public site because I think they
would be useful only to james committers and much less to james users.


I would not want to draw a line so strong.  If someone wants to look
at some report and make a change, or is running their own branch of
the code and wants the changelog and dependency report, more power to
them.

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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-25 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Serge Knystautas wrote:

On 7/23/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think that clover, code duplication reports, test results, the
dependencies report, the taglist, the changelog, and much other are
useful to me.
Btw I don't care to publish them to our public site because I think they
would be useful only to james committers and much less to james users.


I would not want to draw a line so strong.  If someone wants to look
at some report and make a change, or is running their own branch of
the code and wants the changelog and dependency report, more power to
them.


Maybe it is better that I explain my sentence.

I would like to add A LOT of reports to our official site. If they are 
automatically generated by Maven I don't see drawbacks in having more 
reports (they have to be mantained would be the drawback for 
non-automatic reports).


Btw, Noel is against this, so I said I don't care to publish them: I 
meant that I can live even without publishing them.


Having a pom.xml in the source distribution is already a good step for 
any user that know maven and can create the reports in an easy way.


Stefano


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-25 Thread Serge Knystautas

On 7/25/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would like to add A LOT of reports to our official site. If they are
automatically generated by Maven I don't see drawbacks in having more
reports (they have to be mantained would be the drawback for
non-automatic reports).


Agreed.

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Use of lists (was Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www))

2006-07-25 Thread Danny Angus

Hi,

FYI the list for website stuff is site-dev@james.apache.org

d.

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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-25 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Dienstag, den 25.07.2006, 11:02 -0400 schrieb Serge Knystautas:
 On 7/25/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would like to add A LOT of reports to our official site. If they are
  automatically generated by Maven I don't see drawbacks in having more
  reports (they have to be mantained would be the drawback for
  non-automatic reports).
 
 Agreed.
 
I think the most reports are very usefull.. I was scared when lookin at
the CPD report and see how much code duplication we have :-(

bye
Norman



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RE: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 I would like to add A LOT of reports to our official site. If they are
 automatically generated by Maven I don't see drawbacks in having more
 reports (they have to be mantained would be the drawback for
 non-automatic reports).

Superfluous bloat in SVN would be an issue.  All of these generated
artifacts take up space in Subversion.  But if the reports actually have
some value ...

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-23 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

We also want to change what Maven is generating.  Almost all of its
default reports should be turned off.

The Source Repository report is OK to show the URL, but all of the
content should be directed to http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn.  We
don't want to maintain general SVN instructions.



Maven2 automatically generate this page:
http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/source-repository.html


Yes, but http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn is the official content for the ASF.  
If you feel that there are some improvements that can be made, let's contribute 
them.


They are totally different approaches.
The apache page is a set of links most of them are useless to the james 
user and only useful for us (james committers, or even only james pmc).


I still think that this page:
http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/site-20060723/server/source-repository.html
is much better than any page I can find in the apache website.

First of all this return the *real* paths to our repository while apache 
site return only the root of the asf repository.


Btw I'm +1 to use the one provided by maven and -0 to link people to 
apache links.



The only Project Report we should keep is the JavaDocs, and that
needs to be per-release level.  The Who we are/Project Team is
JAMES, not component specific.


I agree on the per-release level, but I think that project reports are 
helpful and if we can generate them automatically and with few effort we 
should publish them:


Which project level reports?  I listed:


  Dependencies, Issue Tracking, Mailing Lists, License


as useful.  If you like the XRef, that's fine.  Other reports are not useful, 
and some are promos for other people's code.  I really don't feel like 
providing free advertising.  Same for the Maven icon.  I consider it obnoxious 
for tools to embed their advertising (spam) in their generated content.

--- Noel


I think that clover, code duplication reports, test results, the 
dependencies report, the taglist, the changelog, and much other are 
useful to me.
Btw I don't care to publish them to our public site because I think they 
would be useful only to james committers and much less to james users.


Imo the most important are javadocs and xref, so if you can't live with 
further reports I'm ok to remove them from the public site.


I hope that we, sooner or later, will setup a continuos integration 
server that will run james and generate the full site with full reports 
supporting us in our developing cycles.


Stefano


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RE: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano wrote:

 Sunny day and I'm sick, so I took some time to look at maven2 generation 
 and css.

Sorry to hear it.

 I created a css for maven2 generated site, that is different from James 
 current style but I think it is something in the middle between Maven2 
 style and current James style.

Looks good, as we've discussed.  What is the difference in size between the 
anakia generated site and the maven 2 generated site?  Only for JAMES, not 
counting jSPF.

  We want a main site, plus project specific content, and release
  specific content within project specific content.

 I agree.
 I think we can create a maven2 project for our main site using only the 
 content that is not project specific. As I already tried the James site 
 generation using maven2 this should not be a big problem.

OK.

  We also want to change what Maven is generating.  Almost all of its
  default reports should be turned off.
 
 The Source Repository report is OK to show the URL, but all of the
 content should be directed to http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn.  We
 don't want to maintain general SVN instructions.

 Maven2 automatically generate this page:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/source-repository.html

Yes, but http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn is the official content for the ASF.  
If you feel that there are some improvements that can be made, let's contribute 
them.

  The only Project Report we should keep is the JavaDocs, and that
  needs to be per-release level.  The Who we are/Project Team is
  JAMES, not component specific.

 I agree on the per-release level, but I think that project reports are 
 helpful and if we can generate them automatically and with few effort we 
 should publish them:

Which project level reports?  I listed:

   Dependencies, Issue Tracking, Mailing Lists, License

as useful.  If you like the XRef, that's fine.  Other reports are not useful, 
and some are promos for other people's code.  I really don't feel like 
providing free advertising.  Same for the Maven icon.  I consider it obnoxious 
for tools to embed their advertising (spam) in their generated content.

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-17 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Looks good, as we've discussed.  What is the difference in size between the 
anakia generated site and the maven 2 generated site?  Only for JAMES, not 
counting jSPF.


Do you want to know the site of the generated html page or the site used 
by the whole site once generated?


Excluding reports and javadocs/xref the 3 sites together (James + Server 
+ JSPF) are 1.8MB (I'm just uploading a further test and is 1.8MB).


Stefano


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Done: Added it as the first link of Related Projects. I don't like 
this too much but it is better than nothing, and we should find a 
consistent way to publish all of the projects (mime4j, postage, jsieve..)


Agreed on all counts.  Neither one of us likes the current situation, but agree 
that doing this is better than not.


Sunny day and I'm sick, so I took some time to look at maven2 generation 
and css.


I created a css for maven2 generated site, that is different from James 
current style but I think it is something in the middle between Maven2 
style and current James style.


Currently I'm happy with the result:
http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/
http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/

For that test I'm generating both James server and James jspf via 
maven2, and imo this is the way to go.


About the look I'm happy with it and I think this is consistent and 
looks better than both default maven and our current site.


About the structure this currently improves only the multisite 
navigation (via horizontabl bar for projects) but this is the issue 
where maven2 can be of help and that deserve more work.


About the look (skin) jSPF site is generated throught maven2. Maven2 has 
various level of customizability for its site generation tool.


What we could try to do is to create a maven2 skin that somewhat 
remember the current apache website and then use it for the main

website and for james projects.


We've got to do something.  We want a main site, plus project specific content, 
and release specific content within project specific content.  We also want to 
change what Maven is generating.  Almost all of its default reports should be 
turned off.  Of the Project Documentation set perhaps keep:


I agree.
I think we can create a maven2 project for our main site using only the 
content that is not project specific. As I already tried the James site 
generation using maven2 this should not be a big problem.
Maven should be able to automatically find the multiple projects and 
keep consistency in layouts between them.
I have to study a bit more about this and as always I don't know if and 
when I'll find the time, but this seems the right way.



  Dependencies, Issue Tracking, Mailing Lists, License

The Source Repository report is OK to show the URL, but all of the content 
should be directed to http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn.  We don't want to 
maintain general SVN instructions.


Maven2 automatically generate this page:
http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/source-repository.html

Imho from a user perspective this page is better than 
http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn


Both way we don't have to mantain it, because maven2 generate it 
automatically.



The only Project Report we should keep is the JavaDocs, and that needs to be per-release 
level.  The Who we are/Project Team is JAMES, not component specific.


I agree on the per-release level, but I think that project reports are 
helpful and if we can generate them automatically and with few effort we 
should publish them:


As an example I find very useful the XRef as an additional reference 
when I use libraries: most time Javadocs are not enough but I don't want 
to download source distribution just to check a method source.


Most of the other reports are more oriented to us: surfire (test 
reports), tag list, pmd, clover, etc..


I think it is useful to keep them but I don't care as much as for xref.

All of this last reports would be a must if we'll ever plan to publish 
updated references for projects trunks.



And I most definitely do not want a Built by Maven logo on the page.


I'm -0 about this: if we use maven we should give credits to them.
Btw it can be easily hidden via css.


I'd be willing to see what such an overall site would look like, but want to 
see it before we decide to keep it.


I think the final goal will be much more similar to:
http://directory.apache.org/
They have ApacheDS, MINA and Naming as project categories, we would have 
Server, jSPF, Postage, Mime4J, jSieve, and so on.


I think that directory m2 sources will be helpful when trying to 
achieve the same goal.



Regardless of whether we use the same or different tools to build the site 
parts, we can merge them via svn (e.g., james/ would come from site/, 
james/server would come from server/, jspf/ would come from jspf/, etc.).  I'd 
prefer a common look, regardless of which approach we take.


Please let me know what do you think of my test look.

Stefano


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-16 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Sonntag, den 16.07.2006, 18:57 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
 Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  Done: Added it as the first link of Related Projects. I don't like 
  this too much but it is better than nothing, and we should find a 
  consistent way to publish all of the projects (mime4j, postage, jsieve..)
  
  Agreed on all counts.  Neither one of us likes the current situation, but 
  agree that doing this is better than not.
 
 Sunny day and I'm sick, so I took some time to look at maven2 generation 
 and css.

First i hope you feel better tomorrow..

 
 I created a css for maven2 generated site, that is different from James 
 current style but I think it is something in the middle between Maven2 
 style and current James style.
 
 Currently I'm happy with the result:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/
 
 For that test I'm generating both James server and James jspf via 
 maven2, and imo this is the way to go.
 
 About the look I'm happy with it and I think this is consistent and 
 looks better than both default maven and our current site.

I think the look is good (even i like the old james site look more).. I
also agree that we should build the site with maven2 with one css so we
get a consistent look over all the projects.

 
 About the structure this currently improves only the multisite 
 navigation (via horizontabl bar for projects) but this is the issue 
 where maven2 can be of help and that deserve more work.
 
  About the look (skin) jSPF site is generated throught maven2. Maven2 has 
  various level of customizability for its site generation tool.
  
  What we could try to do is to create a maven2 skin that somewhat 
  remember the current apache website and then use it for the main
  website and for james projects.
  
  We've got to do something.  We want a main site, plus project specific 
  content, and release specific content within project specific content.  We 
  also want to change what Maven is generating.  Almost all of its default 
  reports should be turned off.  Of the Project Documentation set perhaps 
  keep:
 
 I agree.
 I think we can create a maven2 project for our main site using only the 
 content that is not project specific. As I already tried the James site 
 generation using maven2 this should not be a big problem.
 Maven should be able to automatically find the multiple projects and 
 keep consistency in layouts between them.
 I have to study a bit more about this and as always I don't know if and 
 when I'll find the time, but this seems the right way.

Thx for put your hands on this. It whould be cool if you share some docs
or links to see how you did it.

 
Dependencies, Issue Tracking, Mailing Lists, License
  
  The Source Repository report is OK to show the URL, but all of the content 
  should be directed to http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn.  We don't want to 
  maintain general SVN instructions.
 
 Maven2 automatically generate this page:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/looktest/jspf/source-repository.html
 
 Imho from a user perspective this page is better than 
 http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn

Agree.. better structure and more usefull.

 
 Both way we don't have to mantain it, because maven2 generate it 
 automatically.
 
  The only Project Report we should keep is the JavaDocs, and that needs to 
  be per-release level.  The Who we are/Project Team is JAMES, not 
  component specific.
 
 I agree on the per-release level, but I think that project reports are 
 helpful and if we can generate them automatically and with few effort we 
 should publish them:
 
 As an example I find very useful the XRef as an additional reference 
 when I use libraries: most time Javadocs are not enough but I don't want 
 to download source distribution just to check a method source.
 
 Most of the other reports are more oriented to us: surfire (test 
 reports), tag list, pmd, clover, etc..
 
 I think it is useful to keep them but I don't care as much as for xref.
 
 All of this last reports would be a must if we'll ever plan to publish 
 updated references for projects trunks.
 
  And I most definitely do not want a Built by Maven logo on the page.
 
 I'm -0 about this: if we use maven we should give credits to them.
 Btw it can be easily hidden via css.

Why you don't want this? I think if we use it me should give credit..
Its nothing more then fair.

 
  I'd be willing to see what such an overall site would look like, but want 
  to see it before we decide to keep it.
 
 I think the final goal will be much more similar to:
 http://directory.apache.org/
 They have ApacheDS, MINA and Naming as project categories, we would have 
 Server, jSPF, Postage, Mime4J, jSieve, and so on.
 
I agree.. The site looks more clear and buisness like.

 I think that directory m2 sources will be helpful when trying to 
 achieve the same goal.
 
  Regardless of whether we use the same or different tools to build the site 
  

Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml


Whoops ... this and the related text changes on the main page are premature, 
until we do release JAMES v2.3.  This is the only thing that I feel should be 
reverted ... FOR NOW.  Everything else is a go.  I'd really like to publish the 
site, with all of the JAMES v2.3 beta content; we just can't say that v2.3 is 
released until it is.


I didn't noticed there was updated 2.3.0 references even in index.html.
Re-reading you and the related text changes has been useful!
I'm fixing this now.

I also added jSPF to the

Stefano

PS: As soon as I'll find the time I'll also create an export for mime4j 
site (currently in http://www.mime4j.org/) in the 
james.apache.org/mime4j folder.



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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Several changes:

Would you please update the stylesheet to use the ApacheCon US 2006 logo 
instead of the one from last year?  And, yes, you're about to generate a huge 
number of changed pages.


DONE (already updated in my home live export).
You can see that the new banner is larger than the one. It is not a big 
issue by now, maybe we should revert to 2 column style.



Also, the beta is 2.3.0b3, not b1.


Fixed to say betas and removed references to specific betas, otherwise 
this would be outdated in a week ;-)



We should add jSPF to the navigation tree for the JAMES site, although I really 
dislike that we have two totally different looks.


Done: Added it as the first link of Related Projects. I don't like 
this too much but it is better than nothing, and we should find a 
consistent way to publish all of the projects (mime4j, postage, jsieve..)


 I Don't think I will have the time for this soon, btw ---
About the look (skin) jSPF site is generated throught maven2. Maven2 has 
various level of customizability for its site generation tool.

The first is to use one of the default skins:
Stylus: http://maven.apache.org/
Default: http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/jspf/

The second is to create a simple skin that make only use of css and images.

The third is to create a skin module to alter the generation of the website.

I already excluse the last because it would take longer than our 
possibilities.


What we could try to do is to create a maven2 skin that somewhat 
remember the current apache website and then use it for the main website 
and for james projects.


It is really easy to generate james-server website using maven2, so this 
option should be the easiest.




2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml


Whoops ... this and the related text changes on the main page are premature, 
until we do release JAMES v2.3.  This is the only thing that I feel should be 
reverted ... FOR NOW.  Everything else is a go.  I'd really like to publish the 
site, with all of the JAMES v2.3 beta content; we just can't say that v2.3 is 
released until it is.


Fixed.

Stefano

PS: if no one will raise his voice I'll wait the 72 hours for this vote 
to expire and run an svn update on minotaur.



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RE: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote:

 Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  Would you please update the stylesheet to use the ApacheCon US 2006 logo

 DONE (already updated in my home live export)

:)

 Fixed to say betas and removed references to specific betas

Looks good.  We can direct them to http://people.apache.org/dist/james for the 
beta release.  And we should plan to reorganize for the v2.3 release so that we 
have james/server/{source, binaries}, making room for jspf/ to be a peer of 
server/.

  We should add jSPF to the navigation tree for the JAMES site,
  although I really dislike that we have two totally different looks.

 Done: Added it as the first link of Related Projects. I don't like 
 this too much but it is better than nothing, and we should find a 
 consistent way to publish all of the projects (mime4j, postage, jsieve..)

Agreed on all counts.  Neither one of us likes the current situation, but agree 
that doing this is better than not.

 About the look (skin) jSPF site is generated throught maven2. Maven2 has 
 various level of customizability for its site generation tool.

 What we could try to do is to create a maven2 skin that somewhat 
 remember the current apache website and then use it for the main
 website and for james projects.

We've got to do something.  We want a main site, plus project specific content, 
and release specific content within project specific content.  We also want to 
change what Maven is generating.  Almost all of its default reports should be 
turned off.  Of the Project Documentation set perhaps keep:

  Dependencies, Issue Tracking, Mailing Lists, License

The Source Repository report is OK to show the URL, but all of the content 
should be directed to http://www.apache.org/dev/#svn.  We don't want to 
maintain general SVN instructions.

The only Project Report we should keep is the JavaDocs, and that needs to be 
per-release level.  The Who we are/Project Team is JAMES, not component 
specific.

And I most definitely do not want a Built by Maven logo on the page.

I'd be willing to see what such an overall site would look like, but want to 
see it before we decide to keep it.

Regardless of whether we use the same or different tools to build the site 
parts, we can merge them via svn (e.g., james/ would come from site/, 
james/server would come from server/, jspf/ would come from jspf/, etc.).  I'd 
prefer a common look, regardless of which approach we take.

 2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml
 Whoops ... this and the related text changes on the main page
 are premature, until we do release JAMES v2.3.
 Fixed.

:-)

On the jSPF site, cvs.apache.org should be people.apache.org.

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-14 Thread Norman Maurer
+1 
Norman

Am Freitag, den 14.07.2006, 15:26 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
 This time a real, official, standard vote.
 
 Normally I wouldn't call a vote for a site update, but I just finished 
 committing more than *1000* files updated in our site/trunk repository.
 
 As you can see from the funny comment about the 261 parts it changed 
 almost all the website.
 
 I published an export of the updated site here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/jspf/
 
 Main changes:
 1) Added jspf website
 2) Changed the left column to include 2.3b documentation
 3) Added all the latest documentation under 2.3 submenus (mainly updated 
 by Norman, more to be done)
 4) Removed few very old files no more linked.
 5) Updated mailets API and James javadoc to 2.3.0b3: the one previously 
 online was related to an old 3.0 trunk that has never really been 
 published (it had repositories in Mailet APIs). It was so bad to have 
 javadocs for an unsupported apis that I decided it was better to put 
 2.3b without not many discussions about putting 2.2.0 or anything else.
 
 A +1 will mean I will leave the code in the current trunk and I will run 
 an update on minotaur to publish the changes.
 
 If you cast a -1 please let me know if you are simply against the 
 publishing of the updated website or if you want me to revert the commit.
 
 This is far from perfect, but I think it is better than before, so let's 
 publish this, and them we can tune it with further changes (maybe with 
 no need to vote at each one).
 
 The commit log explain how I generated the files I committed.
 
 Stefano
 
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  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=421896view=rev
  Log:
  Update full website to include jspf and 2.3 things.
  1) ant website from james/server/trunk root.
  2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml
  3) mvn site from james/jspf/trunk root.
  4) copied jspf/target/site to site root/jspf
  5) fixcrlf on all the html files under www
  
  
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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-14 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini

+1

Vincenzo

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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-14 Thread Søren Hilmer
+1
On Friday 14 July 2006 15:26, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
 This time a real, official, standard vote.

 Normally I wouldn't call a vote for a site update, but I just finished
 committing more than *1000* files updated in our site/trunk repository.

 As you can see from the funny comment about the 261 parts it changed
 almost all the website.

 I published an export of the updated site here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/jspf/

 Main changes:
 1) Added jspf website
 2) Changed the left column to include 2.3b documentation
 3) Added all the latest documentation under 2.3 submenus (mainly updated
 by Norman, more to be done)
 4) Removed few very old files no more linked.
 5) Updated mailets API and James javadoc to 2.3.0b3: the one previously
 online was related to an old 3.0 trunk that has never really been
 published (it had repositories in Mailet APIs). It was so bad to have
 javadocs for an unsupported apis that I decided it was better to put
 2.3b without not many discussions about putting 2.2.0 or anything else.

 A +1 will mean I will leave the code in the current trunk and I will run
 an update on minotaur to publish the changes.

 If you cast a -1 please let me know if you are simply against the
 publishing of the updated website or if you want me to revert the commit.

 This is far from perfect, but I think it is better than before, so let's
 publish this, and them we can tune it with further changes (maybe with
 no need to vote at each one).

 The commit log explain how I generated the files I committed.

 Stefano

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  Author: bago
  Date: Fri Jul 14 06:05:56 2006
  New Revision: 421896
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=421896view=rev
  Log:
  Update full website to include jspf and 2.3 things.
  1) ant website from james/server/trunk root.
  2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml
  3) mvn site from james/jspf/trunk root.
  4) copied jspf/target/site to site root/jspf
  5) fixcrlf on all the html files under www
 
 
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  which exceeds the limit of 50 ones, so it was shortened to the summary.]

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RE: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote:

 Normally I wouldn't call a vote for a site update, but I just finished 
 committing more than *1000* files updated in our site/trunk repository.

ROFLMAO!  :-D

Yes, that's what happens.  :-)  We've all been there and done that, and had the 
same reaction.  Welcome to the club.  :-)

 I published an export of the updated site here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/
 http://people.apache.org/~bago/james/www/jspf/

Thanks for that, Stefano.  :-)

Several changes:

Would you please update the stylesheet to use the ApacheCon US 2006 logo 
instead of the one from last year?  And, yes, you're about to generate a huge 
number of changed pages.

  URL: http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/234x60-2006-us.gif

Also, the beta is 2.3.0b3, not b1.

We should add jSPF to the navigation tree for the JAMES site, although I really 
dislike that we have two totally different looks.

There are other things that need to change, but revising the site is an 
evolution.  For example, the version specific docs ought to be under a version 
specific directory, so that we can publish docs for multiple versions.

 2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml

Whoops ... this and the related text changes on the main page are premature, 
until we do release JAMES v2.3.  This is the only thing that I feel should be 
reverted ... FOR NOW.  Everything else is a go.  I'd really like to publish the 
site, with all of the JAMES v2.3 beta content; we just can't say that v2.3 is 
released until it is.

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] James website update (Was: svn commit: r421896 - in /james/site/trunk/www)

2006-07-14 Thread Stefano Bagnara

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

2) replaced 2.2.0 with 2.3.0 in download.xml


Whoops ... this and the related text changes on the main page are premature, 
until we do release JAMES v2.3.  This is the only thing that I feel should be 
reverted ... FOR NOW.  Everything else is a go.  I'd really like to publish the 
site, with all of the JAMES v2.3 beta content; we just can't say that v2.3 is 
released until it is.


Well, this is good, because in fact I did exactly the opposite.
Our trunk xdocs already generate 2.3.0 references in the download page, 
so I replaced 2.3.0 with 2.2.0 before submitting to the site repository.


Sorry for the wrong comment, happy to see you noticed this!

Stefano

PS: about the other things I will do the simple ones before updating. 
About the layout I did something as a test few weeks ago, but I thought 
we can live with 2 different layouts for a while: not perfect, but 
better than nothing!



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