Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Tarun Pondicherry]

Hi Pablo,

I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version.  
Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.

I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.  Currently, it 
detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that.  We 
could also change it to force es not matter what.  Which do you think is 
better?

Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with 
the same username, it may break things.  Is this something to worry 
about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time?

Thanks,
Tarun
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> *Creating a new blog
>
> *
>
>* The login page isn't in spanish
>
> The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the
> next update after we get abiword working.
>
> Great!
>
>
>
>* I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we
>
>  should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing
>  it). Volunteers? :-)
>
> I'm not sure the best way either.  There are many many options.  I
> thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the
> students.  We can also allow students to register themselves or an
> admin to enter all of them.  Comments on which would be best would
> be really helpful.  Students also should only have to login once.
>
> Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child 
> is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it 
> should stay registered in the laptop.
> One important feature would be letting children use different 
> registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very 
> confusing for children and even more for teachers!
>  
>
>
>
>* In the "Adding a new OU blog" form, I can't access the
> "Manage
>
>  Remote Blogs" button, it takes me to a page that says "Sorry,
>  but you do not currently have permissions to do that
>  ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about
> this error
>  ". *
>
> I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login.  If
> you are logged in as student, you would have to logout.
>
> It doesn't work logged in as teacher.
>
>  Do teacher's and students share the same machine?
>
> Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, 
> etc.) from their own laptops.
>
>
>
>* It would be better if some options could be hidden, like
> "Common
>  module settings".
>
> This will be done in the next update.  There is button to show all
> the advanced options at the bottom if needed.
>
> Ok.
>
>
> *New blog post*
>
>
>* From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I
>  could use the other interface
>
>  
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2),
>  but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. *
>
> For this demo, there was only one blog.  The jump to link at the
> top right was to be used to select other blogs.  Perhaps it should
> be repositioned?
>
> Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working 
> before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of 
> confussion in the class...
>
>
>
>* I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from
> any of
>
>  the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the
> file as
>  an image).
>
> Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword
> on the server.
>
> Ok. 
>
>
> I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily
> work would be. Let's see...
>
>* First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and
> password
>  for the system.
>* The teacher creates a new blog using the interface
>
>  
> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2§ion=0&return=0
> 
> 
>
>  
>  
> >
>* All of her children have to get a user and password.
>
> Yes, and it will be saved on the XO so only needs to be entered
> one time.
>
> Ok!
>
>
>
>* Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for
> which
>
>  children will have to make their posts

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Pablo Flores]

Hi Tarun!
Thanks for the great work you are doing!

See comments below.

Saludos,
Pablo Flores


On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Pablo,
>
> I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version.  Please
> let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.


I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.  What I found
with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I
talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children
to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I
will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would
it be possible to change this?


>
> I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.  Currently, it
> detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that.  We could
> also change it to force es not matter what.  Which do you think is better?

For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)


>
> Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the
> same username, it may break things.  Is this something to worry about, or
> will the system be tested by one person at a time?

Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal
workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about
it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen?


>
> Thanks,
> Tarun
>
>  On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>*Creating a new blog
>>
>>*
>>
>>   * The login page isn't in spanish
>>
>>The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the
>>next update after we get abiword working.
>>
>> Great!
>>
>>
>>
>>   * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we
>>
>> should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing
>> it). Volunteers? :-)
>>
>>I'm not sure the best way either.  There are many many options.  I
>>thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the
>>students.  We can also allow students to register themselves or an
>>admin to enter all of them.  Comments on which would be best would
>>be really helpful.  Students also should only have to login once.
>>
>> Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is
>> registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should
>> stay registered in the laptop.
>> One important feature would be letting children use different registration
>> systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for
>> children and even more for teachers!
>>
>>
>>
>>   * In the "Adding a new OU blog" form, I can't access the
>>"Manage
>>
>> Remote Blogs" button, it takes me to a page that says "Sorry,
>> but you do not currently have permissions to do that
>> ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about
>>this error
>> ". *
>>
>>I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login.  If
>>you are logged in as student, you would have to logout.
>>
>> It doesn't work logged in as teacher.
>>
>> Do teacher's and students share the same machine?
>>
>> Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.)
>> from their own laptops.
>>
>>
>>
>>   * It would be better if some options could be hidden, like
>>"Common
>> module settings".
>>
>>This will be done in the next update.  There is button to show all
>>the advanced options at the bottom if needed.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>>
>>*New blog post*
>>
>>
>>   * From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I
>> could use the other interface
>>   (
>> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2
>> ),
>> but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. *
>>
>>For this demo, there was only one blog.  The jump to link at the
>>top right was to be used to select other blogs.  Perhaps it should
>>be repositioned?
>>
>> Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before
>> starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in
>> the class...
>>
>>
>>
>>   * I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from
>>any of
>>
>> the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the
>>file as
>> an image).
>>
>>Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword
>>on the server.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>>I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily
>>work would be. Let's see...
>>
>>   * First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and
>>

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Tarun Pondicherry]

Hi Pablo,

The version downloadable from: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading "For 
Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please let me know if it works.

About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be 
spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization).  If that 
does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to 
detect the localization.

About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers 
and students have their own account.  Then, they can do concurrent 
things without issues.  My concern is that for the test it looks like we 
are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause 
problems.  If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers 
and students testing, that would be ideal.

Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.

Tarun
> Hi Tarun!
> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>
> See comments below.
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version.
>  Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>
>
> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.  What I 
> found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its 
> homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for 
> teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to 
> finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to 
> change this?
>
>
>
> I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.  Currently,
> it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on
> that.  We could also change it to force es not matter what.  Which
> do you think is better?
>
> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>
>
>
> Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time
> with the same username, it may break things.  Is this something to
> worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time?
>
> Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal 
> workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog 
> about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may 
> happen?
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[Server-devel] Fwd: XS inconvenientes

[Henry Vélez]

Como vamos pues.

 Estoy utilizando un Ap Zoom, conectado vía adaptador de red al
 servidor, el cual es visto por las XO, pero no obtengo respuesta sel
 server. Es decir, cuando  busco la
 URL:http://schoolserver.orth.org:5280/admin/ o a
 http://172.18.0.1:5280/admin/, no obtengo respuesta.

 Seguí las recomendaciones que se dan en
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Troubleshooting_School_Servers y no obtuve
 resultados.

 En la información del WIKI se habla de APs conectados vía usb y
 analizando la configuración predetermianda  del XS noté que los br0,
 br1, ..., contienen la puerta de enlace hacia el ejabberd, mientras
 que la eth0 contiene la ip que ofrece el AP. ¿Entonces según esto,
 necesito un AP vía usb para darle salida al XS?.

 Los comandos utilizados en el XS son los que normalmente se utilizan
 para administrar ejabberd vía terminal, osea los que son encabezados
 por ejabberdctlme.



 Me avisan si se necesitan más datos.
 Estaré haciendo más pruebas y cualquier cosa les seguiré avisando.

 Muchas gracias.

 Se cuidan.



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Re: [Server-devel] A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

[Tom Mitchell]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Langhoff wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  * What use cases are you trying to support?
>>
>> Insert a usb stick with content that is OK'd by the regional NOC
>> (network operations centre) for execution/installation on the XS.
>

-

>>>  * What security
>>> properties are you trying to check?
>>
>> Signed by the NOC, not changed.
>>
>
> Why not encrypt the partition on the usb-stick? Not too sure what all
> that would involve, just some food for thought.

Caution,  strong encryption is not legal in all the world.
Better to just use signed RPMs and perhaps hand verifiable checksums.

Key point: RPMs can be re-signed.

Some of the most in need parts of the world are places where "trust"
is most fragile.   I suspect that digital signatures and checksums can
be used to keep all the OLPC processes as reliable, open and
transparent as possible.  Encryption implies a deep lack of trust to
me.  Signed files permits trust and also verification.  Also the
ability to "extract and verify without a secret" the content of any
package might be important in a troubled region.

Summary:  RPMs can be re-signed this permits local organizations to
pickup, verify, test and if their policy desires re-sign the packages
for local, regional use.

Fragment from the man page:

"Signatures:

rpm {-K | --checksig} [signature-options] PACKAGE_FILE...

rpm {--addsign | --resign} PACKAGE_FILE... "

So "signed by the NOC, and not changed" is possible to do. The
regional NOC may need to manage the secret half of their keys and
distribute the public half of their but that is less of a problem and
more trusting and open than full encryption.

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Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Pablo Flores]

Hi Tarun.

I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when
working in an XO.

I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok.
When I go to the "Create new blog" link (
http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3§ion=0&return=0),
it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.

Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error
message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a "Continue" button.
When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login
with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the "Create new blog" link, I
can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course,
there is no link or option for this.

Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the
registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't
finish the process.

Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option never appears
in the top-right of the page.

I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from
the XO...

Saludos,
Pablo Flores


On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Pablo,
>
> The version downloadable from:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading "For
> Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please let me know if it works.
>
> About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be
> spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization).  If that does
> not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the
> localization.
>
> About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers
> and students have their own account.  Then, they can do concurrent things
> without issues.  My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going
> to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems.  If we
> can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing,
> that would be ideal.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>
> Tarun
>
>> Hi Tarun!
>> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>>
>> See comments below.
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Pablo Flores
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>
>>Hi Pablo,
>>
>>I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version.
>> Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>>
>>
>> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.  What I
>> found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its
>> homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers
>> and children to make BrowseNew go straight to
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish
>> with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.  Currently,
>>it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on
>>that.  We could also change it to force es not matter what.  Which
>>do you think is better?
>>
>> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time
>>with the same username, it may break things.  Is this something to
>>worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time?
>>
>> Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal
>> workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about
>> it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen?
>>
>
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Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Pablo Flores]

The other point I'm not understanding well is: How does the student or the
teacher choose in which blog she will post when going to the "New blog post"
link? (
http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=4
)

Saludos,
Pablo Flores


On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Pablo Flores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Tarun.
>
> I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when
> working in an XO.
>
> I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok.
> When I go to the "Create new blog" link (
> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3§ion=0&return=0),
> it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
>
> Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error
> message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a "Continue" button.
> When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login
> with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the "Create new blog" link, I
> can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course,
> there is no link or option for this.
>
> Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the
> registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't
> finish the process.
>
> Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option never
> appears in the top-right of the page.
>
> I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working
> from the XO...
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>> The version downloadable from:
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading "For
>> Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please let me know if it works.
>>
>> About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be
>> spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization).  If that does
>> not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the
>> localization.
>>
>> About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers
>> and students have their own account.  Then, they can do concurrent things
>> without issues.  My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going
>> to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems.  If we
>> can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing,
>> that would be ideal.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>>
>> Tarun
>>
>>> Hi Tarun!
>>> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>>>
>>> See comments below.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Pablo Flores
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Pablo,
>>>
>>>I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version.
>>> Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.  What I
>>> found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its
>>> homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers
>>> and children to make BrowseNew go straight to
>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish
>>> with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.  Currently,
>>>it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on
>>>that.  We could also change it to force es not matter what.  Which
>>>do you think is better?
>>>
>>> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time
>>>with the same username, it may break things.  Is this something to
>>>worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time?
>>>
>>> Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal
>>> workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about
>>> it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen?
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Server-devel] A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

[Martin Langhoff]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Tom Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why not encrypt the partition on the usb-stick? Not too sure what all
>> that would involve, just some food for thought.
>
> Caution,  strong encryption is not legal in all the world.
> Better to just use signed RPMs and perhaps hand verifiable checksums.

Also in practical terms, it's fairly hard to create encrypted
partitions (on other platforms for example), and RPMs also have high
barriers of entry.

So I'm looking for something simple, and as portable as possible.

cheers,


m
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Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Tarun Pondicherry]

Hi Pablo,

The list of blogs shows up here: 
http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/index.php?id=3
My idea is that the teacher or student will start on that page, and then 
click on the blog they want to post to or manage.  Do you think that 
will work?

Thanks,
Tarun

Pablo Flores wrote:
> The other point I'm not understanding well is: How does the student or 
> the teacher choose in which blog she will post when going to the "New 
> blog post" link? 
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=4)
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Pablo Flores <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi Tarun.
>
> I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should
> when working in an XO.
>
> I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that
> is ok. When I go to the "Create new blog" link
> 
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3§ion=0&return=0
> 
> ),
> it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
>
> Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an
> error message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a
> "Continue" button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page.
> The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go
> again to the "Create new blog" link, I can see the courses page,
> but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or
> option for this.
>
> Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill
> in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation
> email, so I can't finish the process.
>
> Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option
> never appears in the top-right of the page.
>
> I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not
> working from the XO...
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> The version downloadable from:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the
> heading "For Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.
>  Please let me know if it works.
>
> About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it
> should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish
> localization).  If that does not work, then I will force the
> setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization.
>
> About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school
> each teachers and students have their own account.  Then, they
> can do concurrent things without issues.  My concern is that
> for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user
> account for everyone which can cause problems.  If we can
> create separate user accounts for all the teachers and
> students testing, that would be ideal.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>
> Tarun
>
> Hi Tarun!
> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>
> See comments below.
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  >> wrote:
>
>Hi Pablo,
>
>I tried to address most of these concerns in the
> updated version.
> Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>
>
> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the
> system.  What I found with the previous version is that
> BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg
> that it would be very simplifying for teachers and
> children to make BrowseNew go straight to
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some
> time to finish with the instructions to start to work.
> Would it be possible to change this?
>
>
>
>I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.
>  Currently,
>it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its
> setting on
>that.  We could also change it to force es not matter
> what.  Which
>do you think is better?
>
> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>
>
>
>Another concern I have is that if testers login at the
> same time
> 

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Tarun Pondicherry]

Hi Pablo,
> I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is 
> ok. When I go to the "Create new blog" link 
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3§ion=0&return=0
>  
> ),
>  
> it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
>
> Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error 
> message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a "Continue" 
> button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same 
> happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the 
> "Create new blog" link, I can see the courses page, but it's not 
> possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this.
I'm afraid I can't reproduce this problem.  Could you please try again 
and take a screen shot of the error page (Alt 1 on the XO)?
>
> Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in 
> the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, 
> so I can't finish the process.
You would need to be approved by the admin.  I have done that.  Let me 
know if you have any more difficulty logging in.
>
> Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option never 
> appears in the top-right of the page.
Greg told me to remove all the "Moodle" options.  They will show up if 
you click "Show" at the bottom left of the page.  Should I show 
login/logout by default?

Also, the interface for "Create New Blog" will now let you enter your 
own connection details to connect to your own Blogger blog.

Thanks,
Tarun
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> The version downloadable from:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading
> "For Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please let me
> know if it works.
>
> About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it
> should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish
> localization).  If that does not work, then I will force the
> setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization.
>
> About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each
> teachers and students have their own account.  Then, they can do
> concurrent things without issues.  My concern is that for the test
> it looks like we are going to use the same user account for
> everyone which can cause problems.  If we can create separate user
> accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be
> ideal.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>
> Tarun
>
> Hi Tarun!
> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>
> See comments below.
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  >> wrote:
>
>Hi Pablo,
>
>I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated
> version.
> Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>
>
> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.
>  What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew
> didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would
> be very simplifying for teachers and children to make
> BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a
> page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to
> start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
>
>
>
>I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.
>  Currently,
>it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on
>that.  We could also change it to force es not matter what.
>  Which
>do you think is better?
>
> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>
>
>
>Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same
> time
>with the same username, it may break things.  Is this
> something to
>worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at
> a time?
>
> Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The
> normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work
> in and blog about it, then children start to work
> altogether what problems may happen?
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>

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Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

[Tarun Pondicherry]

Hi Pablo,

I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old 
pages.  I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog.  Please let 
me know if that resolves the first issue you mentioned.

Thanks,
Tarun

Pablo Flores wrote:
> Hi Tarun.
>
> I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when 
> working in an XO.
>
> I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is 
> ok. When I go to the "Create new blog" link 
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3§ion=0&return=0
>  
> ),
>  
> it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
>
> Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error 
> message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a "Continue" 
> button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same 
> happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the 
> "Create new blog" link, I can see the courses page, but it's not 
> possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this.
>
> Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in 
> the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, 
> so I can't finish the process.
>
> Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option never 
> appears in the top-right of the page.
>
> I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not 
> working from the XO...
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> The version downloadable from:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading
> "For Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please let me
> know if it works.
>
> About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it
> should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish
> localization).  If that does not work, then I will force the
> setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization.
>
> About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each
> teachers and students have their own account.  Then, they can do
> concurrent things without issues.  My concern is that for the test
> it looks like we are going to use the same user account for
> everyone which can cause problems.  If we can create separate user
> accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be
> ideal.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>
> Tarun
>
> Hi Tarun!
> Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>
> See comments below.
>
> Saludos,
> Pablo Flores
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  >> wrote:
>
>Hi Pablo,
>
>I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated
> version.
> Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.
>
>
> I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system.
>  What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew
> didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would
> be very simplifying for teachers and children to make
> BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a
> page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to
> start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
>
>
>
>I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.
>  Currently,
>it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on
>that.  We could also change it to force es not matter what.
>  Which
>do you think is better?
>
> For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
>
>
>
>Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same
> time
>with the same username, it may break things.  Is this
> something to
>worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at
> a time?
>
> Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The
> normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work
> in and blog about it, then children start to work
> altogether what problems may happen?
>
>

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Re: [Server-devel] XS inconvenientes

[Tim Moody]

Hola Henry,

Quantos adaptadores de red tiene el server?  Que dice ifconfig?

Que es el IP del AP Zoom y a cual adaptor esta conectado?  Esta cerrado dhcp 
en al AP?

Tienes respuesta de ping 172.18.0.1 desde el pc o XO?

Tienes respuesta de http://172.18.0.1?  En mi servidor es la pagina por 
defecto de Apache.

ejabberdctl status tambien me da el mensaje RCP failed on the node 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: nodedown, pero sin embargo obtengo respuesta de 
http://192.168.0.160:5280/admin (mi server).

Que dice service ejabberd status?

Tim

- Original Message - 
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:10:19 -0300
> From: " Henry V?lez " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Server-devel] Fwd: XS inconvenientes
> To: "OLPC en castellano para usuarios, docentes, voluntarios y
> administradores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> server-devel@lists.laptop.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Como vamos pues.
>
> Estoy utilizando un Ap Zoom, conectado v?a adaptador de red al
> servidor, el cual es visto por las XO, pero no obtengo respuesta sel
> server. Es decir, cuando  busco la
> URL:http://schoolserver.orth.org:5280/admin/ o a
> http://172.18.0.1:5280/admin/, no obtengo respuesta.
>
> Segu? las recomendaciones que se dan en
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Troubleshooting_School_Servers y no obtuve
> resultados.
>
> En la informaci?n del WIKI se habla de APs conectados v?a usb y
> analizando la configuraci?n predetermianda  del XS not? que los br0,
> br1, ..., contienen la puerta de enlace hacia el ejabberd, mientras
> que la eth0 contiene la ip que ofrece el AP. ?Entonces seg?n esto,
> necesito un AP v?a usb para darle salida al XS?.
>
> Los comandos utilizados en el XS son los que normalmente se utilizan
> para administrar ejabberd v?a terminal, osea los que son encabezados
> por ejabberdctlme.
>
>
>
> Me avisan si se necesitan m?s datos.
> Estar? haciendo m?s pruebas y cualquier cosa les seguir? avisando.
>
> Muchas gracias.
>
> Se cuidan.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Henry V?lez Molina
> Administrador de red OLPC
> Fundaci?n Marina Orth
> Tel: (57)(4) 3412359
> M?vil: 3127690169
Hola a todos los de las listas.

He venido trabajando en la configuraci?n del servidor y hasta le momento
no ha sido exitosa.
Estoy gui?ndome por las indicaciones del Wiki en :
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Configuration_Management y estoy utilizando la
versi?n 163.

La instalaci?n (ok)
El cambio de dominio (ok)
Enable ejabberd (ok)
Create an account (ok)

Pero no he podido ver desde las XO o desde otro pc, el administrador web.
cuando realizo *ejabberdctl status* o cualquier comando con *ejabberdctl *
me arroja el siguiente mensaje:*RCP failed on the node [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
nodedown.

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[Server-devel] xs-tools package - grabbag of utilities

[Martin Langhoff]

We are starting to grow a number of useful utilities so now we have

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-tools

If you have an XS, try it out with

  yum --enablerepo olpc-testing install xs-tools

All it has right now is xs-sum, a wrapper around sha1sum, used for the
xs-rsync install-from-usb-look-ma-no-hands trick.

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] xs-tools package - grabbag of utilities

[Martin Langhoff]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have an XS, try it out with
>
>  yum --enablerepo olpc-testing install xs-tools

and now you can get a functional auto-installation of XO images if you do

   yum --enablerepo olpc-testing install xs-rsync

cheers.



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Re: [Server-devel] [Sur] Fwd: XS inconvenientes

[Martin Langhoff]

2008/8/14 Henry Vélez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  - el AP tiene que estar conectaro al XS via la _segunda_ placa de red
>> (eth1) donde el XS da direcciones IP con DHCP
> ¿y que sucede con los servers que solo tienen un puerto?

El primer NIC siempre se autoconfigura como WAN (es decir, la conexion
a internet) -- esto no es algo que se pueda cambiar lamentablemente.
El rol del XS necesita 2 puertos (WAN, LAN).

Puedes conseguir una tarjeta de red para esa maquina?


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Re: [Server-devel] Warning: breakage updating xs-config

[Martin Langhoff]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #7708 - If you just install an XS, do the basic config (domain_config,
> etc) and then install a new xs-config, the install mechanism makes a
> mess. One tell-tale sign is that the files edited by domain_config are
> overwritten. Diagnosing more later...

Done a clean XS install off 165, and about to update it. But I
reviewed /etc and /var/named (which I know breaks) and I already have
a diagnosis.

First xs-config gets installed, and replaces files in /etc and
/var/named with symlinks. Second, the sysadmin runs domain_config, and
some of the scripts in domain_config run sed over symlinks in /etc
instead of doing it dorectly against the _target_ in
/fsroot.olpc.bla/. It's well known that sed -i (and perl -i, and
anything that does the same job) breaks symlinks.

Hmmm Hmm.

So the damage is done not at upgrade time, but at domain_config time.
So there's no easy/sane way I can fix it for already installed
machines. Anyone who installed an XS will need to apply some manual
steps to get the machine in a sane state after the next update.

Working with a solution now - but I had hoped for a "quick fix" I
could apply to ease the pain. No such. So I'm prob going to use the
sysconfig trick to divert to a different config file, and update the
domain_config machinery a bit to use templates.

No easy path unfortunately :-/

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Re: [Server-devel] Reschedule XS meeting for Friday Aug 15 - or 10 PM Aug 14 EST ---- was (Re: not up for Friday meeting about the XS)

[Martin Langhoff]

So, we are all set. In about 18hs we'll be having another meeting. The
wikipage with the info is here:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Conf_08_AUG_07_Meeting

I've put there a draft agenda from Bryan (feel free to add/correct!) and myself.

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