Re: [silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Sruthi Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm. > The the theme is ICT. So, all except the motor variety fit the bill? > Am at a preliminary stage where I am trying to collect info from 'those who > know'. Then zero in on more specific areas. So, I think I shall leave it at > this level for now. How much time do you need? I am interested, but also worried about not having enough time to spare. Cheeni
Re: [silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I strongly suspect that a majority of folks on this list have more > gadgets than are good for them. I know that my significant other has > threatened me with dire consequences if I buy anymore. heh, that has happened to you too? I have been demarcated a gadget closet by my SO and unpleasant consequences are supposed to follow if stray pieces of wire, screws, chargers, batteries and what have you leak out from their confined spaces to the holiest of holies, the dining table or the living room. I do my best to comply, which is sadly not all that effective. So far she's been a sport and pretended not to notice :-) -- Cheeni (aka Time Zone Cowboy) Q: Why is this email 5 sentences or fewer? A: http://five.sentenc.es/
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
--- On Thu, 4/12/08, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [silk] bizarre news claims To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Thursday, 4 December, 2008, 2:20 AM This article in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3540964/Mumbai-attacks-Terrorists-took-cocaine-to-stay-awake-during-assault.html makes some rather bizarre claims, such as the suggestion that the attackers would have voluntarily dosed themselves with LSD before going into battle. Anyone with familiarity with the drug would know that it would destroy all spatial sense and cause other horrible visual distortions, and thus eliminate the ability to wield a weapon effectively. One might as well wear frosted glasses when going out to kill people. That claim alone makes the rest of the article subject to doubt. Are completely insane and clearly on-their-face false claims like this circulating elsewhere? Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not as bizarre as this, but some of the stories in the Pakistani media are worrying in their own navel-gazing preoccupation with their preconceived notions of the Muslim as eternal victim. This in no way exculpates the Indian media, particularly the unholy trinity of NDTV, CNN-IBN and Times NOW of horrible irresponsibility in their coverage over the last seven days. I'm afraid it doesn't seem to be an encouraging climate for clear-headed reporting. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [silk] Conviction for attempted suicide
--- On Thu, 4/12/08, Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [silk] Conviction for attempted suicide To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Thursday, 4 December, 2008, 2:08 AM On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. As another example of the wrong kind of blind justice, I never > really grasped the need to convict someone for attempted suicide. I recently read an explanation that finally made sense. In a historical context in feudal Europe, the king commanded homage from his nobles, and the nobles were owed homage from their vassals. As such unless you were sovereign you owed service to someone, and by trying to kill yourself you deprived your liege of your service. (If you weren't free you didn't owe knights service, but if you weren't free, then you weren't free to kill yourself either.) -- Charles A bit far-fetched, surely? The religious reason makes more sense; it was a sin to take one's own life, and so punished in law. There was no law against attempted suicide in Roman law (on the contrary, it was an honourable and well-established 'way out' in Rome), only in subsequent canon law, and, following that, in civil law. At a rather more tentative level, I understand that Russian law at a point of time strictly forbade serfs to undertake any personal step without the permission of the landlord, including, in a technical sense, suicide. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
Mmm. The the theme is ICT. So, all except the motor variety fit the bill? Am at a preliminary stage where I am trying to collect info from 'those who know'. Then zero in on more specific areas. So, I think I shall leave it at this level for now. Sruthi ps: Thankus :)
Re: [silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
I strongly suspect that a majority of folks on this list have more gadgets than are good for them. I know that my significant other has threatened me with dire consequences if I buy anymore. But you need to be more specific on the kind of gadget geek you want. We have: * Photo geeks * GPS geeks * Hardware geeks * Software geeks * Motor geeks (if you count cars as big, expensive gadgets) and more Which do you want? -- b PS: Nice intro, I think. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Sruthi Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not much use, he decided and asked, "Describe yourself ...," hoping that he > was playing correctly what seemed like her game. > "Mm ... I read in the toilet, and I read in my bed, and when I am not > reading, I am humming beautiful tunes to sleepy... ," she paused as though > unsure whether to continue, "handsome men." She completed, her tone > indicating that she was sure of something ... now. > He looked up, startled from his stupor. > Had she paid him an offhand compliment, or was this something more? A pass? > How should he respond? Should he ignore it? Or should he not ignore it? > > He hated roads, which forked. > "Don't think too much!" she laughed. > He decided to ignore it for now. The pass seemed to have passed. > "You obviously have practiced that line..." > "Sure... that's my 'Describe yourself in not more than 150 words' for all > the socmed sites." > > - > > I also happen to be Chandru's friend who works at The Hindu and is now > desperately seeking gadget gurus. We will be doing stories ranging from gyan > on mobile phones to what nots. If you think you could help, please do ping > at - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dependent clause -- preferably not writing for some > other newspaper, mag, journal, etc. > > Much thanks C. and Udhay. > > Collecting smashed pieces of pumpkin after this start, > > Sruthi >
Re: [silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
Not much use, he decided and asked, "Describe yourself ...," hoping that he was playing correctly what seemed like her game. "Mm ... I read in the toilet, and I read in my bed, and when I am not reading, I am humming beautiful tunes to sleepy... ," she paused as though unsure whether to continue, "handsome men." She completed, her tone indicating that she was sure of something ... now. He looked up, startled from his stupor. Had she paid him an offhand compliment, or was this something more? A pass? How should he respond? Should he ignore it? Or should he not ignore it? He hated roads, which forked. "Don't think too much!" she laughed. He decided to ignore it for now. The pass seemed to have passed. "You obviously have practiced that line..." "Sure... that's my 'Describe yourself in not more than 150 words' for all the socmed sites." - I also happen to be Chandru's friend who works at The Hindu and is now desperately seeking gadget gurus. We will be doing stories ranging from gyan on mobile phones to what nots. If you think you could help, please do ping at - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dependent clause -- preferably not writing for some other newspaper, mag, journal, etc. Much thanks C. and Udhay. Collecting smashed pieces of pumpkin after this start, Sruthi
[silk] [Silk] Calling Gadget gurus
Hello A friend who works for the Hindu is doing a story on gadgets and wants to talk to gadget gurus who currently don't have a column on a competing newspaper. If you answer the description, can you send me a mail off the list and I shall do the necessary hooking-the-two-up? C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463
Re: [silk] I have a laptop battery question...
> Great, articulate, detailed answer Perry, thank you! :) Now how do I > figure > out if I have nicad or lithium batteries (god they sound deadly, and > they probably are!)? Now, this really requires common sense. READ. Its printed on the battery. Lukhman
Re: [silk] I have a laptop battery question...
> & half hours, within a year, though I regularly discharge the battery > completely before charging it again, the on-the-battery time has come > down > to one hour and now fortyfive minutes...what is it that I am doing > wrong, > and is there any way I can increase the on-the-battery time? Batteries have this nasty habit of spontaneously communicating with wallets and credit cards on the lines of "you reduce my load and I reduce yours... and we can give this sucker a hard time... the raw pleasure of owning a new battery and all that.." What you are doing wrong? You are the resistance in their communication... like noise/static,etc. Once the wallet responds to the request from the battery+laptop gang, things will improve naturally. Lukhman.
Re: [silk] Conviction for attempted suicide
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> P.S. As another example of the wrong kind of blind justice, I never >> really grasped the need to convict someone for attempted suicide. > > I recently read an explanation that finally made sense. In a Interesting explanation, and I think Japan had something similar too. Though I have trouble seeing how this can operate in "Independent" "class-less" India where as you've doubtless heard every one is freer than the bird that sings its gay song perched on a flowering tree and safer than a baby sleeping in its cradle. Cheeni
Re: [silk] does somebody know people doing research on traditional music at Kerala?
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Dave Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... and 12 times 9 is 108... >> > > 1^1 * 2^2 * 3^3 = 108 > > But, of course, this is only the number of names a god has in classical > religions, where gods are perfect, eternal, immutable, etc. and hence need > only account for the three spatial dimensions. > > In a (morally?) relativistic religion, one must take into account the > fourth dimension of time (don't forget the i for an i!), and gods then > acquire myriads of extra names: > > 1^1 * 2^2 * 3^3 * 4i^4 = 27'648 > The gods in the Indian pantheon, according to (at least) the Tamizh count, is "muppathu mukkodi" or 33 crores..or 330 million... and I don't know how that number was arrived at! Deepa. > > -Dave > > >
Re: [silk] does somebody know people doing research on traditional music at Kerala?
... and 12 times 9 is 108... 1^1 * 2^2 * 3^3 = 108 But, of course, this is only the number of names a god has in classical religions, where gods are perfect, eternal, immutable, etc. and hence need only account for the three spatial dimensions. In a (morally?) relativistic religion, one must take into account the fourth dimension of time (don't forget the i for an i!), and gods then acquire myriads of extra names: 1^1 * 2^2 * 3^3 * 4i^4 = 27'648 -Dave
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
"Sriram Karra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> makes some rather bizarre claims, such as the suggestion that the >> attackers would have voluntarily dosed themselves with LSD before >> going into battle. > > There was a news clip of the Maharashtra CM's official visit to the Taj > after the incident where the Police office talking him through the events > mentioned dry fruit and amphetamines were found in the terrorists' > rucksacks. With ampphetamines, atleast we are in the 'performance enhancing' > zone... Amphetamine pills would be quite reasonable under the circumstances. They might lead to paranoid psychotic episodes if they're used to avoid sleep for too long, but that's probably not a problem if you're a terrorist. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
"Charles Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Charles Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Um, "a friend" informs me that despite popular misconceptions about >>> the effects of LSD, it's actually quite possible to perform complex >>> spatio-temporal operations while tripping. > >> Your "friend" is wrong, regardless of your "friend's" personal >> experience. > > "You didn't experience what you think you experienced?" Perhaps your "friend" hasn't had as much "experience" as other people's "friends", or perhaps your "friend" didn't get a significant dose. LSD is notable for the fact that, under the influence, third parties generally can't tell that much is afoot (though the careful observer will see mydriasis, or might notice that the tripping individual spends far too much time staring, and especially staring at phenomena invisible to other people like "trailers"), but from the inside, the experience is extraordinarily disabling. Most highly disabling drugs produce more visible external effects, but that should not deceive people into believing that the internal effects are not significant. > Could be, but I'm surprised at the intransigence people seem to be > exhibiting in the face of obviously contradictory evidence. I'm not > saying that driving while tripping is a good idea, My "friends" could not imagine attempting to drive under circumstances where the steering wheel feels like it is made of soft, yielding rubber, where you can't tell how much pressure you're putting on the pedals, where you can't tell how close or how far other vehicles are, and where randomly patterned surfaces such as asphalt or grass develop vivid and spontaneously motile geometric patterns. > or that acid enhances your ability to drive, but saying something > like "it's impossible to drive while tripping" is demonstrably > false. Oh, it is certainly false, in that people can drive blind drunk as well. I wouldn't recommend trying it though. The question is not whether it is possible for heroic individuals to drive under such circumstances, and not whether some people have done so. People do all sorts of astonishingly stupid things. >> By the way, there have been actual studies done on using LSD to >> disorient troops -- it is claimed works pretty well. > > I can certainly believe that. Especially on people who are not > experienced with psychedelics. My "friends" "inform me" that long experience with LSD will reduce the propensity to experience vivid visual hallucinations (at least spontaneously -- one can still summon them by looking at objects properly), but will not reduce feelings of confusion substantially. >>> Now the claim is ridiculous for other reasons (LSD would hardly be the >>> best performance enhancer for this situation) but it's not a priori >>> impossible. > >> I don't think it is "impossible", but it seems like a substantial >> performance eliminator under the circumstances. > > Agreed, and the claim is implausible for other reasons as well. What > seems more likely to me is that this is an attempt to discredit and > deflate the terrorists in the minds of people who might otherwise want > to emulate them. "These aren't admirable muhahiddin, these are > degenerate thrill seeking druggies." In any case, I find the news reports on the subject bizarre. It is not credible in the least. If one wants to give people pep pills so that they can fight longer, provigil or even simple amphetamines are quite effective. Giving people LSD -- and indeed injecting it (who would bother injecting it?) is about the most ridiculous possible alternative imaginable. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Also the hyperfocus that sometimes results can sometimes actually be >> helpful in performing certain actions requiring fine motor control and >> hand-eye coordination (he says the "pinball wizard" effect can be real >> and verified by an uninvolved objective observer.) > > Your dealer is shit. Try real acid. Ignoring the hyperbole for the moment, I will point out that, during the famous "Bicycle Day" incident, Hofmann required substantial assistance to make it home, since he found he could no longer ride the eponymous pedal driven transport. I think this experience is not uncommon. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > makes some rather bizarre claims, such as the suggestion that the > attackers would have voluntarily dosed themselves with LSD before > going into battle. There was a news clip of the Maharashtra CM's official visit to the Taj after the incident where the Police office talking him through the events mentioned dry fruit and amphetamines were found in the terrorists' rucksacks. With ampphetamines, atleast we are in the 'performance enhancing' zone...
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Charles Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Um, "a friend" informs me that despite popular misconceptions about >> the effects of LSD, it's actually quite possible to perform complex >> spatio-temporal operations while tripping. > Your "friend" is wrong, regardless of your "friend's" personal > experience. "You didn't experience what you think you experienced?" Could be, but I'm surprised at the intransigence people seem to be exhibiting in the face of obviously contradictory evidence. I'm not saying that driving while tripping is a good idea, or that acid enhances your ability to drive, but saying something like "it's impossible to drive while tripping" is demonstrably false. Hyperbole on either side helps no one. > By the way, there have been actual studies done on using LSD to > disorient troops -- it is claimed works pretty well. I can certainly believe that. Especially on people who are not experienced with psychedelics. >> Now the claim is ridiculous for other reasons (LSD would hardly be the >> best performance enhancer for this situation) but it's not a priori >> impossible. > I don't think it is "impossible", but it seems like a substantial > performance eliminator under the circumstances. Agreed, and the claim is implausible for other reasons as well. What seems more likely to me is that this is an attempt to discredit and deflate the terrorists in the minds of people who might otherwise want to emulate them. "These aren't admirable muhahiddin, these are degenerate thrill seeking druggies." -- Charles
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
"Charles Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Um, "a friend" informs me that despite popular misconceptions about > the effects of LSD, it's actually quite possible to perform complex > spatio-temporal operations while tripping. Your "friend" is wrong, regardless of your "friend's" personal experience. Well, it is *possible*, but the spatial distortions are pretty horrid. If you try to cut a bagel, can easily screw up and cut your own hand. If you try to figure out how far away an object is, especially while peaking, you're screwed -- it will not be possible to produce an accurate judgment. Is that person 20 feet or 100 feet away? Are they standing still or moving towards you? Both could be quite difficult to figure out, as well as the person's sex or race. I suspect that with a telescopic sight you could still determine that you were aiming at a person at least -- with iron sights, it would be rather unpleasant trying to aim. Indeed, while peaking, it is often very difficult and confusing for someone tripping to deal with crowds -- judging the numbers of people, their sexes, the direction they are moving in, etc., becomes nearly impossible. Confusion and disorientation are hardly what you want under such circumstances. By the way, there have been actual studies done on using LSD to disorient troops -- it is claimed works pretty well. Yes, I'm aware that Dock Ellis threw a no-hitter while peaking. However, I think that was more a tribute to luck, certainty that the spatial relationship between the batter and the pitcher's mound could not possibly be shifting, etc. -- in any case, I recall that he managed to screw up in all sorts of ways (like repeatedly hitting batters with the ball, and walking a ridiculous number of batters) -- this is, if anything, evidence for my position. > Now the claim is ridiculous for other reasons (LSD would hardly be the > best performance enhancer for this situation) but it's not a priori > impossible. I don't think it is "impossible", but it seems like a substantial performance eliminator under the circumstances. -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 08:00:07AM +1100, Charles Haynes wrote: > Um, "a friend" informs me that despite popular misconceptions about > the effects of LSD, it's actually quite possible to perform complex > spatio-temporal operations while tripping. Driving a car for example. That's bunk. Or for very low values of tripping. You're much too focused on keeping pieces of you in the same time and space to be able to borderline function in public (assuming you would want to share the highways with cars full of dead people), nevermind the visuals which are distracting at least. > Also the hyperfocus that sometimes results can sometimes actually be > helpful in performing certain actions requiring fine motor control and > hand-eye coordination (he says the "pinball wizard" effect can be real > and verified by an uninvolved objective observer.) Your dealer is shit. Try real acid. > Now the claim is ridiculous for other reasons (LSD would hardly be the > best performance enhancer for this situation) but it's not a priori > impossible. You can tell from reports that 99% of people are clueless about drugs, especially psychedelics.
Re: [silk] bizarre news claims
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > makes some rather bizarre claims, such as the suggestion that the > attackers would have voluntarily dosed themselves with LSD before > going into battle. Anyone with familiarity with the drug would know > that it would destroy all spatial sense and cause other horrible > visual distortions, and thus eliminate the ability to wield a weapon > effectively. One might as well wear frosted glasses when going out to > kill people. That claim alone makes the rest of the article subject to > doubt. Um, "a friend" informs me that despite popular misconceptions about the effects of LSD, it's actually quite possible to perform complex spatio-temporal operations while tripping. Driving a car for example. Also the hyperfocus that sometimes results can sometimes actually be helpful in performing certain actions requiring fine motor control and hand-eye coordination (he says the "pinball wizard" effect can be real and verified by an uninvolved objective observer.) Now the claim is ridiculous for other reasons (LSD would hardly be the best performance enhancer for this situation) but it's not a priori impossible. -- Charles
[silk] bizarre news claims
This article in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3540964/Mumbai-attacks-Terrorists-took-cocaine-to-stay-awake-during-assault.html makes some rather bizarre claims, such as the suggestion that the attackers would have voluntarily dosed themselves with LSD before going into battle. Anyone with familiarity with the drug would know that it would destroy all spatial sense and cause other horrible visual distortions, and thus eliminate the ability to wield a weapon effectively. One might as well wear frosted glasses when going out to kill people. That claim alone makes the rest of the article subject to doubt. Are completely insane and clearly on-their-face false claims like this circulating elsewhere? Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] I have a laptop battery question...
"Deepa Mohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Great, articulate, detailed answer Perry, thank you! :) Now how do I figure > out if I have nicad or lithium batteries (god they sound deadly, and they > probably are!)? Almost all modern laptops use lithium ion batteries. NiCad batteries are an older technology that has been largely abandoned. However, you can usually determine which it is by looking at the label on the battery itself. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[silk] Conviction for attempted suicide
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. As another example of the wrong kind of blind justice, I never > really grasped the need to convict someone for attempted suicide. I recently read an explanation that finally made sense. In a historical context in feudal Europe, the king commanded homage from his nobles, and the nobles were owed homage from their vassals. As such unless you were sovereign you owed service to someone, and by trying to kill yourself you deprived your liege of your service. (If you weren't free you didn't owe knights service, but if you weren't free, then you weren't free to kill yourself either.) -- Charles
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
Deepa: Ah. I actually have this theory that making food is as creative an endeavour as any other art; therefore, really good food cannot be standardized...if it is, it will lose by that process. Udhay: I am not sure I agree. It is perfectly possible, in my experience, to have chefs turn out food that tastes just the same (*and* is excellent to boot) day after day. Deepa: Well...I think this because even when I measure the ingredients and follow a recipe (not always possible with south Indian cooking though), the food does not taste zigackly the same each time. Charles: I agree with both of you! Even a great restaurant with a world class chef needs consistency. If two people order the same dish, either at the same table on the same night, or at different times from the same restaurant, they expect it to be recognizably the same. In that sense it's "standardized. I expect the salmon and creme fraiche cornets at French Laundry to be the same as last time I visited, and I expect them to be the same at Per Se. This in spite of the fact that they will be prepared by different people, and the salmon will vary by location and by season. However, because ingredients do differ, achieving that "standardization" is very different from writing down a recipe to be slavishly followed by someone of minimal culinary skill. You can't say "sautee for five minutes" you have to teach them how to judge the amount of sauteeing required to reproduce the effect you want. "Sautee until the skin is correctly crisped." Even so, you need someone to maintain the standard. The chef will still need to make periodic corrections and adjustments, and that doesn't scale to a large chain. A good chef may be able to train some executive chefs, but will still need to visit occasionally to make sure the standards are being maintained. I think Joel Robouchon is pretty amazing in being able to maintain standards across his chain... I mean "empire." So I think creating amazing food is a creative endeavor but it can also be reduced to practice - but only by a gifted chef and only for someone trained in the art who has adequate skills. -- Charles
Re: [silk] Selling one’s child
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:33 +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: >> http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mag/2008/11/30/stories/2008113050060300.htm > > i will not blame harsh mander but does the hindu no longer have a copy > desk?? I'm not sure I understand what that means. >> Shyamlal and Lalita Tandi hit the headlines when it was 'exposed' that they > [...] >> sold their daughter. Latika tried to explain, but they did not seem to > > regarding the content, while it the sold child might have indeed had a > greater chance of living under the care of the buyer, i imagine that > it'd be pretty common for the buyer _not_ to be one who "loved the > three-year-old like his own daughter". Yes, but the "system" should have a soul and the ability to discern. Applying the rule book with eyes closed isn't helping anyone, least of all in domestic affairs such as this. Cheeni P.S. As another example of the wrong kind of blind justice, I never really grasped the need to convict someone for attempted suicide.
Re: [silk] Here's a very interesting viewpoint
On 12/3/08, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 Dec 2008 9:31:13 pm Deepa Mohan wrote: > > The point is, so what if she's guilty of less than civil writing? So > > what if she's got a few facts wrong? If we the public were as effective in > > scrutinizing and passing judgment on the administration as we are on Ms > > Roy's > > writing, India would be a different country. > > My response to this? > > If my aunt had a dick, she would have been my uncle Shiv, I dicklare... you are so funny! :-) A correction (or rather a caste-ration with an allusion(!) to a prev thread) is in orduh here, though - actually Ma'am Deepa did not 'write' this way about Ms Roy, so you don't have to right her,.though I respect your right. But,.I am Left with no option (like N Ram) to write the wrong here hear. Ha. So what if Kanishka is mistaken? So what if he practiced Hinayaana? So what if his Buddha is moustachioed? So what if he was bombed out, unfortunately? So what if he got only his english rite in the hole tritetup? If we listers, listlessers and polemists were oaf as effective in screwtinizing and passing out because of such exertions, this lust would find everlusting glory, thusly making India into an indifferent country. I tell you - these muddleclass ineffectuals are suffering wayy too much from having too much time in their hands, with too much of workplace provided bandwidth, too many online petitions to signup for, too many social nutworks to invite from, too many list threads from way too many lists to respond to, need to do too many websearches to get instant wisdom... So where is the time to develop ANY critical viewpoint on any dam thing including that on Naramada? So we go by pontifications of the likes (actually dislikes) of Ms Roy who seem to suffer from incredible quantities of ersatz expertise on agriculture to hydel projects to unclear power to combating terrorism to communal amity to what-is-next? Sorry, I currently plan to do a volteface here and it will be shocking... As a foolly qualified member of the aforesaid muddleclause, I would support Ms Roy in toto (ass, I dont have the persistence or the ability to sieve out and see thru things, to develop a reasonably consistent world view, to not see things in black&white, to reweigh ideas and opinions in the context of newly gained info) - and of course ALL her viewpoints too. In fact I am going to love Ms Roy, the great champion of underdogs (and NOT uppergods), much more, for her soon-coming-to-a-blaze-near-you kinda excellently researched and deep *and* insightfully soulful and unputdownable diatribes on: * Why chandraayan, when from my neighbourhood of apartments I cant even see sun, leave alone moon. * How Obama committed a blunder by supporting south ossetian struggle. * India should not deal with Dealy Llama any more. (in line with N Ram) * Why Russian aircraft carriers have a factor of safety of 300% and why this is wrong as a mere 200% will do. * Why the HAWT a better idea than the vertical axis wind turbines. * The international conspiracy hatched in outer mongolia by bavarian illuminati is responsible for Obama's triumph who in turn, is responsible for subject creeps on SILK list. * Why the under-dogs occasionally are shadowed, especially when they are walking, when sun is overhead. * Why India is going to dogs, whereas the dogs are going to kennels. * Fermat's last theorem can be proved wrong using Godel's incompleteness theorem and how urban elite are against this approach, because they are not secular. ... Ah, the pleasures of fully armed chair activism. 'nuff ranted. ramjee, who gives it more of those ones*.. PS: Udhay, this is to humbly demonstrate my incredible capacity to scribe content-free but not discontent-free post. * sorry, 'In which Annie gives it those ones' is the name of a film made more than 20-25 years back - the story was that of Ms. Roy and its script was good, I should regretfully admit. -- http://www.qsl.net/vu2sro/ The lyfe so short, the Craft so long to lerne. -- Geoffrey Chaucer (The Assembly of Fowles)
Re: [silk] Here's a very interesting viewpoint
On Tuesday 02 Dec 2008 9:31:13 pm Deepa Mohan wrote: > The point is, so what if she's guilty of less than civil writing? So > what if she's got a few facts wrong? If we the public were as effective in > scrutinizing and passing judgment on the administration as we are on Ms > Roy's > writing, India would be a different country. My response to this? If my aunt had a dick, she would have been my uncle >It seems pretty clear that the > anti-Roy rhetoric has got more to do with the fact that she raises > uncomfortable > topics which makes for extremely unpopular drawing room conversation in > middle-class English speaking households. Now surely a response such as mine should be quite OK for drawing room conversation? shiv
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ethiopian, judging from the number of desis I see in restaurants > serving this cusine in the US, would be well received, though the > dosa-bred southies will wonder what was so great about Ethiopian food. > > In my experience, desis either love Ethiopian food, or hate it. I haven't come across desis who are so-so about it. I remember an occasion when my parents, two uncles, brother and sister-in-law went out for Ethiopian food in DC -- the occasion we refer to in my family as the Ethiopian food debacle. My parents and one uncle hated it, so much so that we had to stop at the Indian restaurant a couple of doors down afterwards; the other uncle, my brother and sister-in-law and I loved it. I happen to live within blocks of several very good Ethipian restaurants in DC -- in an area that some have tried to rename "Little Ethiopia" -- but have not been able to convince my parents to go back and try it again. My theory is that Ethiopian food is similar enough to Indian food -- the spices are very similar, with them having imported many of their spices from us back in the day, according to a former colleague who is Eritrean -- that desis either appreciate the similarities or are turned off by the food that tastes like Indian food but isn't, sort of a "this would be much better if it were made more like the dish I'm familiar with and love" reaction
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deepa Mohan wrote, [on 12/3/2008 12:56 PM]: > > > Ah. I actually have this theory that making food is as creative an > endeavour > > as any other art; therefore, really good food cannot be standardized...if > it > > is, it will lose by that process. > > I am not sure I agree. > > It is perfectly possible, in my experience, to have chefs turn out food > that tastes just the same (*and* is excellent to boot) day after day. > > Similarly, a jazz guitarist (to take perhaps the most improvisational of > the performing arts, just to make my point) still needs to play > *similarly* night after night, to connect with his crowd of regulars and > those they persuade to show up. > > Udhay Well...I think this because even when I measure the ingredients and follow a recipe (not always possible with south Indian cooking though), the food does not taste zigackly the same each time. And while my *style* of singing may be similar, the improvisations of a raaga alapana or swara prasthara WILL be different each time. The crowd of regulars are looking for similar stuff each day, be it music or food; but I dont think they are looking for identical stuff. That would be...so boring. Coughers please note, bottom post :) Deepa.
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
Deepa Mohan wrote, [on 12/3/2008 12:56 PM]: > Ah. I actually have this theory that making food is as creative an endeavour > as any other art; therefore, really good food cannot be standardized...if it > is, it will lose by that process. I am not sure I agree. It is perfectly possible, in my experience, to have chefs turn out food that tastes just the same (*and* is excellent to boot) day after day. Similarly, a jazz guitarist (to take perhaps the most improvisational of the performing arts, just to make my point) still needs to play *similarly* night after night, to connect with his crowd of regulars and those they persuade to show up. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
At 2008-12-03 12:56:15 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The wholesale tomato market was in full swing How much were they selling tomatoes for? -- ams
Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > dosa-bred southies will wonder what was so great about Ethiopian food. Ah ha, dosa "bread" is incontrovertible proof of the negroid origins of the subservient dravidian races. < / sarcasm >
