Re: [silk] Your most memorable concerts?

[Deepak Misra]

I have not been to too many, but the one i went to:

Paco de Lucia sextet in Munich in 1993 was more than enough to make up for
it. It was a wish to see him again which could not be fulfilled on account
of him passing away.
If you have not heard the maestro , just watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Nw0Hm_wTM

Another one was Jean Luc Ponty on one of his concerts to Bangalore. The
ushers let us in before the concert started since we had come so early and
we watched the practicing for half an hour before the start. There was no
audience besides us.

Deepak


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On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:47 AM Thejaswi Udupa 
wrote:

> I've spent way too many weekends at concerts, a lot of them in Bangalore,
> and many of them great memories. FWIW, I've probably watched Gaurav live
> over a dozen times as part of Phenom, RDP, and I think on one occasion as
> an emergency replacement in another PESIT band (Black Earth?)
>
> Anyway, here's a short list of my best concerts
>
> 1. Megadeth, at Bangalore. 2008.
>
> Many considered this a flop, for various reasons. A disinterested crowd, a
> band that hardly interacted with the crowd, etc. But as someone who was
> right at front, it was perfect. As for banter with crowd, three songs in
> Mustaine finally talked. "We're Megadeth, you know why we're here." And
> then tore into the fourth song. Perfect.
>
>
> 2. Black Sabbath, at Mountain View, 2013.
>
> It was supposed to be one of their last gigs ever (turned out to be a lie
> later on). Ozzy was off key most of the time, but the Shoreline
> Amphitheatre venue and the lovely, friendly crowd of mostly metal thathas
> made for a lovely experience.
>
> 3. Demilich, at Bangalore, 2015.
>
> A cult death metal band, an unlikely gig in Bangalore. A crowd of no more
> than 100 in a shady pub. But damn, did the band prove why they're so highly
> regarded. They didn't ease up because they were playing for such a small
> crowd. If anything, they doubled down.
>
> 4. Random LA bands playing at Whiskey A-go-go and Viper Room, 2014
>
> I lived in LA for a couple of months, thanks to work, and happily immersed
> myself in the Sunset Boulevard gig scene. Lots of random bands, the only
> one I remember is Azimuth because the mom of the lead singer thought I was
> really enjoying music and gave me a lot of band swag, t-shirt, CD, etc. The
> music of all the bands was strictly so-so, but it was all such a nice
> scene.
>
> 5. TM Krishna, Chennai in 2015
>
> This was at his nephew's wedding. A small kacheri with just some 30
> invitees. I had listened to TMK live before, but this was when I saw him at
> his playful best. A brilliant kacheri of mostly tukdas, where all the songs
> had the groom's name as part of the lyrics.
>
>
> 6. Roger Daltrey, San Jose, 2011
>
> With a backing band and orchestra, played Quadrophenia end to end. Was
> brilliant.
>
> 7. Iron Maiden, Bangalore, 2007
>
> I cut short a trip to Goa with then recent girlfriend much to her distress
> to come attend this. I don't regret it one bit (don't think she now minds
> either, but that's not the point) Superbly produced, and the Bangalore
> crowd genuinely won Maiden over, given they came back again
>
> 8. Satyricon, Bangalore, 2008
>
> I was thick as thieves with many in the Bangalore metal scene, and this one
> I attended backstage, because somehow I had a pass that said I was a drum
> technician for one of the opening acts. Me, Jack (of Kryptos and Bevar Sea
> fame), and Hari Shenoy who many on this list know, got tanked up in a
> standing bar and then were the only three people who attended the gig at
> the foot of the stage. Great fun.
>
> 9. Opeth, Madras, 2009
>
> Colleges in India after this kept getting big-name bands to play at their
> fests. But IITM did it first and best.
>
> 10. Deep Purple, Bangalore, 2001
>
> My first "big" gig. So I'll always remember it fondly.
>
> Honorable mentions
>
> Jethro Tull, 2006, Bangalore
> Unknown thatha, 2011, The Saloon, San Francisco
> Scorpions, 2002, Bangalore
> Mark Knopfler, 2005, Bangalore
> Roger Waters, 2002, Bangalore
>
> Also, Uriah Heep, Rolling Stones, Aerosmith in Bangalore. So glad my city
> had all these gigs.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 00:41 Gaurav Vaz  wrote:
>
> > My previous career iteration afforded me watching a ton of concerts, to
> the
> > point where I would hate going to live music shows, because they would
> feel
> > like work :p
> >
> > But here are my top 10 concerts —
> >
> > *1. Coldplay headlining Glastonbury* (2011) — my band had just played 2
> > shows earlier that day at the same festival, and it was my first
> > Glastonbury experience. Truly incredible festival and an insane show.
> > Easily the best live music expe

Re: [silk] Silkmeet in Bangalore 18 Feb 2019

[Deepak Misra]

Tentatively in. Will confirm in a day or two

Deepak

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:01 PM Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> Silklister Danese Cooper will be in town, possibly with Zaheda Bhorat and
> Alolita Sharma. Let's use this as an opportunity to meet up.
>
> Show of hands?
>
> Udhay
>
> --
>
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>

[silk] Bangalore litfest

[Deepak Misra]

Anyone there today ?

Deepak

Re: [silk] How many phone numbers do you remember?

[Deepak Misra]

Using a telephone directory to find a number
Using a rotary dial phone (My neighbour has one and it still works)
Polishing shoes
Changing the strap of Hawai slippers
Winding a watch
..
Okay, I will stop here

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:09 AM Thaths  wrote:
>
> Speaking of skills obsoleted by technology... what other skills do we no
> > longer use?
> >
>
> Gently twirling a tuning knob to capture a vestigial shortwave radio
> signal.
>
> Udhay
>

Re: [silk] How many phone numbers do you remember?

[Deepak Misra]

approx 10

The oldest is 45 years
Second is 25 years

Others average 10 years.

No new number from the last 6 years

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Shashikiran Rao 
wrote:

> At max 5 numbers :-P and most of them because they have remained unchanged
> for a long time.
>
> Cheers,
> Shashikiran
>
> > On 20-Aug-2018, at 10:30 AM, Alok Prasanna Kumar 
> wrote:
> >
> > About 6 numbers for me: parents' and a few close friends.
> >
> > And weirdly, the number I had ten years ago in college.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 10:26 AM Lakshmi Pratury 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Four numbers for me - my husband, my son, my driver and my sister
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Udhay Shankar N 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking about (potentially) obsolete skills. One of them is
> >>> remembering phone numbers. Is that even a thing anymore?
> >>>
> >>> I did insist that my daughter memorised mine and my wife's number,
> which
> >>> has come in useful on occasion.
> >>>
> >>> What about people here? How many numbers can you remember?
> >>>
> >>> Udhay
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Lakshmi Pratury*
> >> Host and Curator
> >> +91 99456 56864
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> >>  | facebook
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> >>
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> >> <
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> india-s-first-triathlete
> >>> *
> >>
>
>
>

Re: [silk] What's your primary computing device?

[Deepak Misra]

I observe that there is a statistically significant proportion of
silklisters  using Mac machines. Anything to read into ?
As in do  smarter people use Macs ? Is it a style statement? Or do
Macs provide additional features which justify the premium.
While this topic might have been trashed to death in other forums, it would
be interesting to get perspectives from this statistically significant
crowd.

Deepak

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> As in, what do you spend the most time doing serious work/play on? For any
> definition of 'work' or 'play' that appeals to you?
>
> For me, it is still an assembled desktop computer running Windows.
> Notwithstanding the existence in the house of 3 laptops, sundry tablets,
> and many, MANY phones.
>
> Udhay
>
> --
>
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>

Re: [silk] What's your primary computing device?

[Deepak Misra]

Office Laptop at work. It stays at office.

At home, 7 year old HP lpatop with Windows 7. If someone is using that
laptop  then there is an older Dell with Ubuntu. Laptop mostly used on
weekends

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 ( 4 yeards old ) Phone for daily facebook and mail.
feedly for RSS  reads. I find the mobile version better then desktop
versions

Samsung TAB for reading books.

Am the proud owner of an IPAD since a week but am still struggling with UX
after so many years of Android.

Deepak

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Venkatesh H R 
wrote:

> MacBook Air and my iPhone SE ('upgraded' from iPhone6 when it fell and
> broke). Otherwise, I'm really trying to use them only for work or
> communication with family and friends. That means no games, no Twitter, no
> Facebook, no Netflix, etc for at least 2 hours a day.
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM Jim Grisanzio  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Udhay Shankar N 
> wrote:
> >
> > > As in, what do you spend the most time doing serious work/play on? For
> > any
> > > definition of 'work' or 'play' that appeals to you?
> > >
> > > For me, it is still an assembled desktop computer running Windows.
> > > Notwithstanding the existence in the house of 3 laptops, sundry
> tablets,
> > > and many, MANY phones.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4 laptops in 2 locations (office/home) running Linux, Solaris, Windows,
> > Mac. Need the Mac for photo editing. But mostly for day to day work stuff
> > the phone is slowly taking over with recent models (iPhone 7). It won't
> be
> > long till the phone replaces 3 laptops. Haven't used a land-locked
> desktop
> > since Sun's Sun Ray (or maybe that doesn't quality as a desktop machine
> but
> > more of a thin network client with a nice big screen).  :)
> >
> > Jim
> >
>

Re: [silk] Headspace and similar meditation "services"

[Deepak Misra]

I used Yoga Nidra for many years and sometimes got into such a deep level
of relaxation and meditative state that my children used to get scared when
they saw my face.

The Bihar School of Yoga has these CDs for sale and they are start from
Yoga NIdra INtemediate (about 20 minutes) to advanced (30 minutes).

Yoga Nidra is just the first stage of meditation and I have not been able
to cross this even 10 years after sporadic practice. The next 2 steps are
Ajapa Japa and Antar Mouna which requires one to sit with spine straight
for 1/2 hour - something that is the most stressful part of meditation.

I would strongly recommend these CDs for starting.

Deepak

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Nandkumar Saravade 
wrote:

>
>
> > On 10-Sep-2016, at 3:38 AM, Prashant P Kothari 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Srijith Nair  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have been looking at doing guided meditation for several reasons.
> >> Apps/services like Headspace (headspace.com) seem to offer good
> options.
> >> I was wondering if any of the silklisters have any experience on using
> >> such apps or in general on (technology) guided meditation? I have just
> >> started on the free Level 1 series, but it is too early to tell.
> >>
> >> One thing I am realising about myself is that I seem to work better with
> >> technology-mediated services (FitStar is an example that comes to mind)
> >> than with personal/group trainer based sessions. Not sure why, but that
> >> is a different exercise in navel-gazing altogether :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Srijith
> >>
> >
> > I have tried a few classes/ CDs for meditation over the years but
> couldn't
> > find something that I could convert into a practice until I found
> Headspace
> > and 10% Happier.  Been using both apps (alternate every other month) and
> > love them... do one module from either most days.
> >
> > I'm a fan of the 10% Happier podcasts as well
> >
> > Best
> > Prashant
>
> I have been using the Yoganidra technique for last several years (
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_nidra) and find it very effective.
> Eventually, my entire family took to using it.
>
> My son Advait has created a free Android app for guided meditation. Called
> Deep Relax, it combines elements of Yoganidra and binaural tones. You may
> want to check it out at https://play.google.com/store/
> apps/details?id=com.advait.saravade.relax&hl=en
>
>
> Regards,
> Nandkumar
>

Re: [silk] Eating Millet

[Deepak Misra]

We are in the process of shifting away from carbs and are on the millet
journey.

Ragi rotis are a good substitute for rotis but require effort and worse
time for preperation.

The rice substitute is  very acceptable for someone born  and brought up on
rice.

https://millets.wordpress.com/  has quite  some information.



Deepak

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Simmi Sareen 
wrote:

> I read a fantastic article on the health benefits of eating millet
> yesterday. As a foodie, such articles usually lead me to think "Great! But
> how do I cook this thing"
>
> So I wanted to share with you an article I wrote last year on how to cook
> with millets. And if cooking's not your way, it also talks about all the
> restaurants in Mumbai that put millet dishes on their menus.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jex42m7w2r8viyt/Millet%20Tales.pdf?dl=0
>

Re: [silk] Bangalore Silkmeet?

[Deepak Misra]

--1 - Deepak

Wont be able to make it

Deepak

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Charanya Chidambaram <
charanya.chidamba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12-Feb-2015 7:08 am, "Udhay Shankar N"  wrote:
> >
> > So, a show of hands then:
> >
> > Danese Cooper
> > Zaheda Bhorat
> > Udhay Shankar
> > Vinit Bhansali
> > Surabhi Tomar (?)
> > Biju Chacko
> > Shoba Narayan
> > Venkat Mangudi
> > Divya Sampath
> > Vinayak Hegde
> > Thejaswi Udupa
> > Gabin Kattukaran
> > Arjun Guha
> > Julian Philips
> >
> > Who did I miss?
>
> +1 count me in.
>

Re: [silk] Bangalore Silkmeet?

[Deepak Misra]

On 12 Feb 2015 07:09, "Udhay Shankar N"  wrote:
>
> So, a show of hands then:
>

>
> Who did I miss?

Maybe for me. Will confirm on Sunday morning if it is okay.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Financial planning

[Deepak Misra]

Jumping into this  a bit late, but will try to avoid repititions


1) Open a PPF account in every member in the houses name. This is an
absolute must and try to put as much as possible there. The high tax
free return with compounding at zero risk  is something that is
difficult to match

2) The first house/real estate is not an investment. The subsequent
ones are. While the ROI in terms of rent maybe low, the caital
appreciation is what counts. As some earlier pointed out, the tax
breaks on loans makes effective interest low.

3) An approximate cash flow statement needs to be prepared to plan for
big ticket expenses. The savings/retirement strategy and allocation
depends a lot on this.

4) Assume that good fund managers know more than you and have much
better data. If you treat mutual funds as investing then this holds
true over investing directly in stocks. Many peeople do make money on
stocks but lots more do loose. In case you have the time, expertize
and drive, then it make sense to research stocks and buy directly.

5) Allocate an ideal percent of cash to debt, small cap, balanced and
large cap depending on risk profile and adjust investment accordingly.
Even if the amount per month is miniscule, it all adds up

6) Regular SIP is a must. That is the key 

7) For equity keep long term in view. If Mukesh Ambani sneezes, the
stock market crashes, but that does not mean that all  business are
going to sink. ONce he starts smiling the market may boom. Over a 10+
year horizon this hardly matters. Equity in INdia is too weighed by
sentiment over fundamentals and   along term perpsective hedges you
against that.



ON a slightly unrelated note, I had asked about this site called
perfios a couple of years back. I upgraded from free to premium and am
very happy with the site. YOu might want to check our the free version
and see if it helps.

Deepak




On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM, skn  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> All this talk about retirement and how closely coupled it is with
> financial freedom got me thinking (more) about financial planning.
>
> I was wondering how my fellow Silkers (is that how we are collectively
> called?) have been (or have already) preparing for financial
> independence in the later years?  What are the good financial principles
> to live by? Some of the things I have been trying to get my head around
> are about property as an investment, (long term) investing in company
> shares vs. index funds vs. mutual funds, % income to save vs. how much
> to invest vs. how much that can be spent (given I have very young kids)
> etc. etc.
>
> Any insights, life lessons?
>
> -skn-
>

Re: [silk] E.T go home :)

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Thejaswi Udupa 
wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Rajesh Mehar 
> wrote:
>
> > If you haven't yet been, there are two really nice Korean places in
> > Bangalore. One called Arirang in the Kammanahalli area (north Bangalore).
> > And one more called Soo Ra Sang in the Indiranagar area (southish-eastish
> > Bangalore). It would be great if I could get about a week's notice.
> >
>
> You missed a third. Hae Kum Gang on Castle Street. Definitely not as
> upmarket as Soo Ra Sang, but very tasty food.
>


https://www.zomato.com/bangalore/thran-kalyan-nagar is really decent

Deepak

Re: [silk] E.T go home :)

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Charanya Chidambaram <
charanya.chidamba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 27-Aug-2014 11:47 am, "Rajesh Mehar"  wrote:
> >
> > I'm very interested in your ideas on pop-up dinners! Welcome Charanya.
> And
> > let me know if y'all are meeting up to discuss food, while eating food.
>
> Hi Rajesh,
> I am keen on a night out with Korean food.  If there are more people
> interested,  we could plan something soon to eat and make merry :)
>


Did I hear Korean ? All game.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Bangalore silkmeet

[Deepak Misra]

If not too late to nominate myself, I am in.

Deepak
On 18 Aug 2014 16:38, "Udhay Shankar N"  wrote:

> >> Current headcount:
> >>
> >> Sumanth Cidambi
> >> Nandita Iyer
> >> Gabin Kattukaran
> >> Thejaswi Udupa
> >> Naren Shenoy
> >> Sharat Satyanarayana
> >> Naresh Narasimhan
> >> Shrabonti Bagchi
> >> Shoba Narayan
> >> Vinay Rao
> >> Vinit Bhansali (+ Surabhi Tomar?)
> >> Julian Philips
> >> Rashmi Vallabhajosyula
> >> Meera K
> >
> > Biju Chacko
> > Sandhya Prasad
>
> Kingsley Joseph
> Divya Ramasami (?)
>
>
> >
> >
> >> Maybe:
> >> Aditya Kapil
> >> Lahar Appaiah
> >>
> >> Others, speak up!
> >
>
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>

Re: [silk] Meet up.

[Deepak Misra]

Looks like I have to be a drop out. I was confusing Friday with Saturday

Deepak

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Vinayak Hegde  wrote:
> I am a maybe.
>
> -- Vinayak
>

Re: [silk] On self-improvement

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Thaths  wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Deepak Misra

>> you asking about the efficacy of say  GTD or a mailing list
>> dealing with GTD?
>
>
> I was asking if GTD can be considered self help.
>
> Thaths

GTD would be found in the self help section in a book store I am sure.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Meet up.

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

>
> Current confirmed attendees:
>
> Rashmi
> Naresh
> Andy Deemer (+1?)
> Udhay
>
> Others?
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>

I would love to, so maybe

Deepak

Re: [silk] On self-improvement

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thaths  wrote:
> I cannot remember seeing this thread in Silk when it first happened.
>
> I stumbled upon this corpse when I was searching for something else.
>
> That said, I had a followup question.
>
>

>
> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
>
> S.

Are you asking about the efficacy of say  GTD or a mailing list
dealing with GTD?  GTD is an interesting concept but what I found is
that most mailing lists get bogged down in implementation and tweaks
and not about the philosophy.  When i first read the book, I was quite
gung ho but the only notable success story that I have from my
experiment with GTD was to repair a vacuum cleaner that has been out
of action for a couple of years. Anyway there are some good concepts*
to be learnt and it is best not to get bogged  down into reading about
it.
Life hacker is mildly interesting and once in a blue moon gives you
something you can actually use. The useful section is the one on
downloads, browser addons etc.

Deepak

* - Differentiate between a project and next action. (This is the most
useful learning in my opinion)
  - Take an immediate decision on what has to be done on something
which is in your in-box (Act, schedule, delete , file)
  -  Ensure that every project has a next action

Re: [silk] Introductions

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> Inspired by John Sundman's mail after a period of quiet time on the list:
>
> There are a couple of new members. Welcome, and feel free to jump out
> of lurkspace and introduce yourselves.
>
> Any other members who want to (re)introduce themselves are welcome to, too.
>
> Udhay
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>

*

*This is a good time to introduce myself though I have been a lurker on
this list for many many years.  http://in.linkedin.com/in/*deepakmisra*
What is very strange is I dont have any recollection of how I  found this
list or how the list found me. I guess some google search must have led me
here. The volume of mails can  be a bit overwhelming and I do quickly scan
through most mails and do give up after the 25th mail on a subject.

I have met very few people from this list face to face but have this long
plan of attending one of the meets.

My interests are P G Wodehouse , arm chair reading and TV viewing  on
traveling, reading about (different than experiencing) wildlife.

>From personal observation, the whole thread of a mail on this list changes
after about 10 mails so let me start it even before that on the subject of
kindle versus tab.

Which makes more sense ? kindle or tab. If tab largely for browsing from
the armchair and reading books is there a lot of difference between the sub
Rs. 10K  ones (Karbon, iball) and the grand daddies ? Any opinions>?



Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] autoresponse weirdness

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

>
>
> When did you delete the rule? I got another autoresponse just now.
>
> Udhay
> --
>
>
I deleted it but it did not sem to be saved. Done it again now and
hopefully this will disappear. As I said before this filter has ben for
atleast5 years and this is the 1st time this is happening.

My apoligies to thr group.

Deepak

Re: [silk] autoresponse weirdness

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
wrote:

> not tge brightest of ideas.  see how well you can complain based on spam
> headers
>
> quite probably leadgen spammers selling insirance, loans etc
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> Mine was the easier option particualrly when spam filters did not seem to
effective and it was impossile to stop the m,essages. This is the first
misbehaviour after 5+ years

Re: [silk] autoresponse weirdness

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Ashwin Kumar  wrote:
> > +1 and UnLike.
>
> One explanation is that somebody on this list has autoforwarded their
> email to the icicilombard customer support address - presumably by
> mistake.
>
> Unfortunately, we don't have any control over this. Anybody here work
> for ICICI Lombard?
>
> Udhay
>
> --
> (
>
I might be the guilty one.  I got sick of icici lombard sending me spam and
and had an autoforward that forwarded any mail from them back  to their
customer support. But something went wierd today which I cant figure out. I
sent a citibank mail from my office address to my personal address and this
seemed to send a mail from icici. I was quite baffled but did not have the
time to figure it out.  I doint know how Silk entered the picture.
Is it possible that I am not the guilty one ?? IN any case  I have deleted
the filter and rule.


Deepak

Re: [silk] Books of 2012 (

[Deepak Misra]

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Shoba Narayan 
> wrote:
> >
> >> A related question - is Flipkart still the best place to buy books
> >> online in India?
> >
> > India Plaza, Infibeam, Shopping Wish, are others.
>
> And some more:
>
> homeshop18.com
> bookadda.com
>
> >
>

If you know the ISBN of the book http://isbn.net.in/ checks the prices
across many sites and gives you the options. There are a couple of links in
this site   which menion indiviudual sites which aggregrate results where
you can mention the name of  the book, author etc.

I have saved quite a lot  of money using these sites

 MySmartPrice  or
MyDiscountBayor
IndiaBookStore  or
ThisYaThat


Deepak

Re: [silk] perfios.com

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Deepak Shenoy wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Deepak Misra 
> wrote:
> > I
>
> This probably is just my paranoia and may not be justified.
>
>

I share your paranoia hence my query. Legal liabilities etc. are very
blurred in India. But the site looks very useful and tailored beautifully
for India.

Re: [silk] perfios.com

[Deepak Misra]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Deepak Misra wrote:

> I was having at a look at this site and it looks quite interesting for
> Indian users. The only scary issue here is the sharing of passwords for
> bank accounts etc. HOwever without the automatic refresh of accounts the
> tools is not that all powerful.
>
> Has anyone had an experience with this site ? The security policies say
> all the rigth things but there is hardly any information throuigh google on
> actual users that too with security bacgrounds.
>
> Anyone knows about this site or any competitors ?
>
>
> Deepak
>


I dont see a response to my mail but some kindhearted soul on this list has
forwarded my query to one of the co-founders of perfios who has responded
to me. The response does not really answer my query but that is a different
issue altogether.

So SIlk has come to the rescue :-)

Deepak

[silk] perfios.com

[Deepak Misra]

I was having at a look at this site and it looks quite interesting for
Indian users. The only scary issue here is the sharing of passwords for
bank accounts etc. HOwever without the automatic refresh of accounts the
tools is not that all powerful.

Has anyone had an experience with this site ? The security policies say all
the rigth things but there is hardly any information throuigh google on
actual users that too with security bacgrounds.

Anyone knows about this site or any competitors ?


Deepak

Re: [silk] Old Readers Digest

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM, ss  wrote:

>
>
> My favorite in the Il-Lust(rat)ed weekly was the Phantom comic where a
> masked
> white man who wore his black underpants outside his purple costume would
> rule
> justly over savage natives who looked like Africans in grass skirts in
> places
> that had strangely Indian sounding names. Taught me who was who in the
> world.
>
> shiv
>


Phantom was the commander of the Jungle Patrol and the top honcho was a
white man - Colonel Weeks.  They decided to get politically correct they
replaced him with "a native" colonel Worubu.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Old Readers Digest

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:16 PM, ss  wrote:

> On Monday 16 Jul 2012 10:51:01 am Deepak Misra wrote:
> > ou disapprove in principle of Readers Digest or Udhay giving them ??
> No that was a joke. I used to enjoy Reader's Digest very much in the 60s
> and
> in the 70s the Indian edition paid for the education of a classmate of
> mine -
> also a very close friend, because his father was the publisher. But after
> the
> 80s it seemed to lose its magic. After that it seemed to me that RD was
> just a
> load of "raddi paper"
>
> shiv
>
>
I personally found RD a very sophisticated version of a soviet magazine.  I
think it was called Sputnick but maybe Sputnick was a clone of SPAN which
was published by USIS.
In any case, RD was a subtle propaganda for the American way of life. Yes
you are right that deterioration started soon.

What is interesting with the old issues is the advertisements from those
days.


Deepak

Re: [silk] Old Readers Digest

[Deepak Misra]

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, ss  wrote:

> On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 5:14:37 pm Deepak Misra wrote:
> > Udhay had been kind enough to give me his big collection  of old readers
> > digests from many years back.
>
> My sincere condolences to you
>
> shiv
>
>
You disapprove in principle of Readers Digest or Udhay giving them ??

Deepak

[silk] Old Readers Digest

[Deepak Misra]

Udhay had been kind enough to give me his big collection  of old readers
digests from many years back.

I am now running out of storage space and with his concurrence am offering
them on this group in case anyone would like them.

Please mail me offlist in case you are interested.


Deepak

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

[Deepak Misra]

Let me be brutally honest. My take on this situation here is that we need
to revector our effort away from all this non value adding activity of this
email thread.  Let us idenitfy one prime and one co-prime to lead this task
force.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Alternate DNS servers

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On 06-Nov-08 7:22 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
>
> > Just to sum up the free DNS alternatives so far:
> >
> > * Opendns [1]
> > * level3 [2]
> > * DNSadvantage [3]
> >
> > All of the above use anycast [4] so you get automatically routed to
> > the nearest server. It appears that DNSadvantage has a node in India,
> > too.
> >
> >
>
>
Does the DNS server make so much difference for non heavy users ?? I have
experimented with various and really not been able to make out the
difference in speed unless I am missing out something


Deepak

[silk] sendmail book

[Deepak Misra]

I have a very old  copy of sendmail  by  *Robbins, Arnold; Dougherty, Dale
ISBN 1-56592-222-0 (2nd edition)

In case any of the geeks in this list could have any use for this book and
are willing to pick it up from me from Old Airport Road or Cuninmgham road
let me know offlist

Deepak
*

Re: [silk] Washing pen drives

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, ss  wrote:

> I left a usb drive in a shirt pocket and it went thorugh a machine wash
> sometime last week. I found it today on top of a neatly ironed shirt. It
> still
> works and all the data is intact.
>
> Thought y'all might want to know how to "clean" a pen drive.
>
> shiv
>
>
>
Same thing happened to a mp3 player with my daughter It still works after 5
years.  DId you iron it too :-).


Deepak

Re: [silk] (no subject)

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On 28-Jan-11 6:46 AM, ss wrote:
>
> >> Sorry all my mail is going berserk!
> >>
> > Just switch to Windows.
>
> The beauty of the "cloud" is that it doesn't matter which OS you're
> running, you're still at the mercy of what somebody threw together in
> javascript over a weekend (both on the server, as well as the attack
> vector).
>
> Udhay
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>

If you have the time and inclination, could you elaborate further ??

Deepak

[silk] Neat Debate Flowchart

[Deepak Misra]

http://atheismresource.com/wp-content/uploads/Debate-Flow-Chart.jpg


Deepak

Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybeuseful for last-minute travel

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Balaji Dutt  wrote:

>
>>
>
> I hold a Indian passport with a valid Business Visa to the US, however I
> still need to obtain a visa to enter Taiwan & South Korea. Plus, Taiwan &
> South Korea will only issue single-entry visas to Indian passport holders.
>
>
You dont need a visa for South Korea if you have travelled more than 10
times or more than 4 times in the last 2 years.  The statement is a bit
puzzling since traveled > 10 times implies travel 11 times but the sentence
seems to be understood as you dont need a visa after the 10th trip (even
though semantically wrong).  I assume visa free transit in Singapore is well
known to those having USA and Schengen Visas

The main grouse I have with getting as visa is the number of documents one
has to submit. South Korea largely gives single entry visas and with each
application one needs to submit company offer letter, original invitation
letter, 3 years bank statement, 3 years IT form 16 and 3 months payslips.

Deepak

Re: [silk] What's the strangest thing you've eaten?

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> I think we had a similar thread lo, these many years ago, but still.
>
> Inspired by a friend's status message about lutefisk, I ask silklisters
> to let us know what is the strangest thing they've eaten.
>
> Maybe Charles can post multiple times to this thread? :)
>
> Udhay
> --
>

Getting in a bit late

-  Tuna (or some fish - didnt get the name)  eyeballs in  Shoju (Korean
equivalent of Sake)
-  Raw Beef
-  Rabbit (assume not so strange since i ate it in a Bangalore restaurant)
-  I went to a dog meat restaurant but could not get myself to eat it so
settled for duck
-  I guess snails are not so strange ?
- Breadfruit. This is not so strange but the only place i had seen it a
couple of decades back was it growing in my apartment garden. I have not
seen it too often though it is apparently well known in Kerala


Deepak

Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT)

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sriram Karra  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>
>
>> find.  Then the actual application is something like five pages long,
>> designed like an application to be a nuclear engineer and requiring
>> simply useless information that's time and labor intensive to figure
>> out.
>
>
> This guy appears spoiled from not having to fill out too many visa
> applications. Good for him, though.
>
> UK visa application form was 21 pages not too long back; More recently it
> is down at about 10 pages for many categories. Ofcourse he can argue about
> the 'nuclear engineer skills' required to fill them out :-)
>


Many embassies in India have multiple copies of mylast 3 years IT returns, 3
months of bank statements and I have lost track of how many copies of my
appointment letter. How long do they retain them and why cant they simply
check their own records for redundancy is something I have never bothered to
understand.  I dont know if visitors to India need to get finger prints
taken but that is some thing we need to reciprocate. And we should use the
dirty ink stamp pads for finger printing which they use in post offices

Deepak

Re: [silk] Music question

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> I'm curious. How many of you listen to music as a single-tasking
> activity? Or at least, the primary foreground activity? And what
> differentiates that from other modes of listening to music?
>
> Udhay
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>

Would sipping a drink while listening to the music be considered as multi-
tasking ??

Deepak

Re: [silk] Library Management

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Biju Chacko  wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I find that my collection of books is growing beyond what I can
> conveniently keep in my head. Can anyone suggest a tool or service to
> track this info?
>
> Features I'd like to have:
>
> - the ability to populate all fields based on an ISBN lookup.
> - barcode reader support
> - ability to track borrowed/lent books
> - ability to assign a location to a book
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -- b
>
>

http://www.librarything.com

Re: [silk] silkmeet @ jaaga Sat Feb 13 7 - 9pm

[Deepak Misra]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> Final call. We're meeting this evening, at babajob, followed by jaaga or
> wherever the mood takes us. Books will be promiscuously exchanged, and
> much memetic infection is on the cards. See you there.
>
> Udhay (no, this is not a top-post)
>
> f
>

Yup I'll be there. Should be able to find the directions from the website

Deepak

Re: [silk] Any Mozilla Addons

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> Deepak Misra wrote, [on 2/1/2010 3:18 PM]:
>
> > There is no brick wall nearby to bang my head against, but I was
> > wondering if anyone is aware of some Mozilla addon  that will pop up
> > whenever a mail is sent to yahoogroups and asking if this was really
> > intended. This has happened to me frequently enough to necessitate such
> > a tool.
>
> Since silk is not hosted on yahoogroups, that may not be of help in this
> particular case.
>
> Udhay
> --
>


The idea would be to define some addresses where you would always get a
popup when you send a mail

Deepak

[silk] Any Mozilla Addons

[Deepak Misra]

As might have been obvious to all except me, I see now that the mails
intended for Deepa have gone to silklist.

There is no brick wall nearby to bang my head against, but I was wondering
if anyone is aware of some Mozilla addon  that will pop up whenever a mail
is sent to yahoogroups and asking if this was really intended. This has
happened to me frequently enough to necessitate such a tool.



Deepak

Re: [silk] Books to be given away

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

>
>
> I am still planning to get rid of more stuff when I return, and that's not
> just books...let's see how it goes. my husband is a Grade A pack rat and
> rarely gives permission! (He only agreed to the NatGeo because you were
> taking it home with you.)
>
> Cheers, and I have NO regrets about giving you the magazines!
>
> Deepa.
>
>
I also have the hoarder mentality and tried to keep everything. I have all
electricity, telephone, credit card bills from the last 10-15 years. I
finally scanned everything (even though I really did not need them) and
threw them out. We have now started with things in the loft (like the
thermos flask we got 10 years back, 2 geysers, ...)  The books were
overflowing all over the place and I took the decision to get rid of
everything I had not read and was not planning to read in the next 6 months.
It was real tough at the begining It gives you a very good feeling once you
remove everything you dont need.

Some amount of inspiration from http://mnmlist.com/minimalist-books/ and
http://zenhabits.net/


Deepak

Re: [silk] Books to be given away

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Deepak Misra wrote:
>
>> With a heavy heart I have started compressing my library with a ruthless
>> purging of books.
>>
>
>
> Well, I hope the NatGeo collection stays, Deepak! :) The ruthlessness of my
> purging...did not last very long!
>
> Deepa.
>
>
Hi Deepa

Nice to hear from you.

Nat Geos are going to stay for this and many  future generations of Misras.
No way they are going to leave my house :-)  There is a guarantee provided
by me, that you can ask for them whenever you want them back if you miss
them so much. People still dont believe my luck to get such a collection so
easily. I have not got around yet to making a dedicated bookshelf
exclusively for this collection, but I will get around to it one of these
days.

btw: I have a Cannon SLR  EOS 1000F with a 35-50mm lens purchased in 1992 .
This was in the days when digital was not invented as yet and this took real
excellent photos. There is some small problem in the shutter assembly which
needs looking at and possibly fungus in the lens. If you are interested in
the old fashioned photography with old fashioned film, I would like to offer
it to you. Let me know if you think you could and would use it.

Are you in Bangalore right now ? I remember that you were on a long visit to
USA.


btw: i assume that you are aware of this group freecycleblr? This is a real
nice way to dispose of things you dont need though I suspect that it is not
fully used in India in the spirit for which ti was intended. You can check
out this group at yahoogroups if you have not heard of it.

Deepak

Re: [silk] book exchange meet? WAS Books to be given away

[Deepak Misra]

>
> So we're on for the 13th?
>
> I count so far
>
> Udhay
> Lahar (?)
>
> Raise your hands, people.
>
>
> Deepak - tentative

[silk] Books to be given away

[Deepak Misra]

With a heavy heart I have started compressing my library with a ruthless
purging of books.

The first list of books up for grabs is here:

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/deepak_bookstobegive


In case  Bangalore  silk-listers  would like any of the books send me a mail
offlist.


Note that most of the books are in  good condition while others are in bad
shape.


please mention in the mail that you are from silk-list.

Thanks

Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] For Googlers

[Deepak Misra]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:

> Aditya Kapil wrote:
> > How does one get a Google Wave account / invite?
> > Adit.
> >
>  I have a dozen invites. Message me offlist if you need an invite please.
>
> V
>
>
If you have still to spare, could you give me one.

dee...@deepakmisra.com  or misra.dee...@gmail.com


Thanks

Deepak

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram  wrote:

> > work. Quite likely that i installed them in the wrong order.
>
> The correct order is here:
>
>
> http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?&docid=1A0C0937D62A8739E0401E0A55174744
>
> Ram
>
>

Reading the manual and following instructions is somewhat different from
reading the manual and not following instructions.  Following instructions
helped and things work now

Thanks to all

Deepak

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan <
kiran.karthike...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/10/8 Deepak Misra :
> > Would anyone  nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having
> the
> > Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but
> am
> > not able to proceed after Windows installation. it does not recognize the
> > network card and some other peripherals
> >
> > I have tried downloading the drivers but it is quite clumsy and I have
> not
> > had any success.
>
> Most OEMs have an application which downloads all the necessary
> drivers and updates them frequently. You just need to go online and
> download it.
>
> If that doesn't work, just go to the dell website, give your model
> number and it should give you a list of all drivers you need and you
> should be ready to go. If that too doesn't work, just call Dell and
> tell them the serial no printed on a sticker which should be at its
> base and they should be able to help you.
>
> Kiran
>
>

Thanks. I was just hoping that some one would have the CD. I did try
downloading the drivers from the site and installing but it does not seem to
work. Quite likely that i installed them in the wrong order.

Getting the CS seems to be the simplest option which i want to exhaust
before starting the more aggravating steps of calling the support center


Deepak

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:

> Deepak Misra wrote:
>
>
> Try Ubuntu! You'll not miss anything. :-) As a bonus, your devices
> should work right away.
>
> If you insist on sticking with Windows, let me find out if anybody I
> know can help.
>
>
Ubuntu is the  fall back plan. This is for my children who are die hard
windows supporters due to familiarity. I do have Ubuntu installed on my
desktop

Deepak

[silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

[Deepak Misra]

Would anyone  nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having the
Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but am
not able to proceed after Windows installation. it does not recognize the
network card and some other peripherals

I have tried downloading the drivers but it is quite clumsy and I have not
had any success.

Deepak

[silk] Manchurian

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Madhu Menon  wrote:

>
> Er, yes, something like that. Mentioning "gobi manchurian" near me is
> asking to get stabbed with one of my knives. ;)
>
> (Actually, I thought my sig would give it away.)
>
>
> Madhu
>
>
>

Then you would love
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/jugglebandhi/entry/chinese-chakkars

Deepak

Re: [silk] "Function" [was Chennai Silk Meet on the 29th?]

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Madhu Menon  wrote:

> Deepak Misra wrote:
>
>  You mean there are restaurants in Bangalore that dont serve this ? I have
>> yet to see any.
>>
>
> Seriously, WTF?
>
> M
>
>

???

Dont get it

Deepak

Re: [silk] "Function" [was Chennai Silk Meet on the 29th?]

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Deepak Misra
> wrote:
>
> > You mean there are restaurants in Bangalore that dont serve this ? I have
> > yet to see any.
> >
>
>
> Here's one, Deepak:
>
> http://www.shiokfood.com/
>
> don't ask for "bagala bath" (curd rice) there, eitherI know, because I
> once I had taken guests there, one of whom wanted me to ask for it
>
> I wish I knew how to do those footnotes, which go, quite importantly, (1)
> and (2) and (3) at the bottom would be these incredibly scholarly
> references
>
> Deepa.
>


Lurking on this list for quite some time, I was expecting that :-)

Re: [silk] "Function" [was Chennai Silk Meet on the 29th?]

[Deepak Misra]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Deepak Misra
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > You missed out the Gobi Manchurian. Or is it just a Bangalore phenomenon?
> >
> > Deepak
>
>
> Deepak, that should be (and is often) written as "Gobi Manjari"and
> somehow it does seem more popular in Bangalore than in Chennai.  Having
> said
> that... the silk-lurker Derek, a WASP, just LOVES it, and fifteen minutes
> after he has set down his luggage in Bangalore, can be found at the nearest
> joint which serves it!
>
> Deepa.
>


You mean there are restaurants in Bangalore that dont serve this ? I have
yet to see any.


Deepak

Re: [silk] "Function" [was Chennai Silk Meet on the 29th?]

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:03 PM, ss  wrote:

> On Wednesday 26 Aug 2009 1:34:59 pm Deepak Misra wrote:
> > Gobi Manchurian
>
> Oh? Surely you mean Gobi Manjuri?
>
> shiv
>


Gobi Manchurian (along with Paneer, Potato, ) is  something masquerading
as a Chineese dish. Manjuri is pure ethnic Bangalorean - no pretenses.
There is a subtle difference.


Last year I was in Vietnam and ducked into an awning when it started
raining. The awning turned out to be an Indian restaurant with the menu
displayed.  I found Gobi Manchurian on the menu - one more data point that
Machurian is really an Indian dish



Deepak

Re: [silk] "Function" [was Chennai Silk Meet on the 29th?]

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:
>
> >
> > given that it is a wedding reception, elai sapadu is
> > certainly not out of the question.
> >
>
>
>
> Excuse me, Udhay, in today's world, a wedding reception in Chennai almost
> always means PPC (Puri Pulao Chhole)...heavily overspiced, greasy ANIF
> (Alleged North Indian Food.)
>
> Tell me if I was wrong.
>


You missed out the Gobi Manchurian. Or is it just a Bangalore phenomenon?

Deepak

Re: [silk] Indian foodies

[Deepak Misra]

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:

> Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Indrajit Gupta
> wrote:
> >> Jhoota - touched by another, typically by mouth, making it impure for
> consumption by another.
> >
> > The Tamil equivalent is "yechal" i.e saliva - in very traditional
> > households it is common to never let the lips touch the vessel or
>
> I, to this day, do not cease being amazed that your plate is "yechal"
> while the table it rests on is not. Just the surface though is. My mom
> and I have huge arguements about this subject even today and it usually
> culminates in me shaking my head and walking away while she triumphantly
> goes about business as usual.
>
> Venkat



It is basically understanding what is a good conductor of "yechal" or
"Ointha" as we call it in Oriya.
Whatever is fixed is not while what is not fixed is.  So plates clearly are
while kitchen counters are not.  The fridge used to pose a challenge for my
othodox grandmother  since Non veg food used to contaminate her food in the
fridge. The problem was solved by desiganting one shelf in the fridge as
pure  ensuring that no meat, eggs or Ointha food ever touched that shelf.

A Table falls somewhere  in no mans land since it is fixed but also movable.
. I had this near miss incident in a small village in  Orissa when I are
some snacks and sweets and unconsciously almost  put the "dirty" plate on
the cabinet where all the sweets  were stored. The waiter shouted and I
stopped myself just in time.

Deepak

Re: [silk] Indian foodies

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Charles Haynes wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
>  wrote:
> > 2009/6/2 Charles Haynes 
> >
>
>
> Bangalore has over six million people. It's almost as big as the
> entire San Francisco Bay Area, and you think it's an accomplishment to
> have "ALMOST all MAJOR cuisines?" I never found a French restaurant
> for goodness sake. French cuisine is the basis for *all* Western fine
>


The statistic might be a bit misleading.  Out of the 6 million people a very
small percentage would be the restaurant crowd.

Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?

[Deepak Misra]

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Thaths  wrote:

> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>  wrote:
> > What do you expect, accuracy?
>
> Maybe not from the likes of ToI. But definitely from the established
> market research places like MARG.
>
> > Hell, even the parties couldn’t predict it .. Prakash Carrot was
> confidently prophesying a 3rd front well into today morning, for example.
>
> I think optimism at the 11th hour is standard politics. c.f. John
> McCain statements about winning on the morning of Nov 4 2008.
>
> Thaths
> --
>   "You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel." -- Homer J. Simpson
>
>
As well as Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, Iraqi information minister

Deepak

Re: [silk] online photo album printing...

[Deepak Misra]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:20 AM, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Has anyone used these online photo album printing services like qoop
> >> (http://qoop.com/) or blurb (http://www.blurb.com )... ?
> >> Any recommendations / alternatives ... I don't live in the US so
> >> reliable international shipping is a must for me...
> >
> > Are you looking for snap-shot-like quality? Or higher end color
> > fidelity? What size prints are you looking at?
> >
>
> Standard snap-shot quality...nothing fancy... 4 x 6 prints...printed
> in a photo album.
>
> I saw somebody with photos printed in it like a book, something like this :
>
> <
> http://www.blurb.com/create/book/view_book_sample_spread_popup?book_type=photo
> >
>
>

snapfish has started in India  http://www.snapfish.in.

I printed some simple photos  and it seemed to work without any followup
though the time taken for delivery was a bit high.

They have some options though i dont know if they meet your requirements

Deepak

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Venkatesh Hariharan wrote:
>
>
>> My mom flew Chennai-Mumbai on Kingfisher yesterday and she was not asked
>> for
>> the credit card copy. Same for her Mumbai-Chennai flight a month ago.
>>
>
> I've never been asked for my CC copy when I've flown. I just walk in like I
> own the place and smile at the lady at the check-in counter. If you don't
> look "suspicious", they usually won't bother you.
>
>
The problem comes up when the credit card is not in the passengers name

Deepak

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> >
> > If the airport is busy and they are working to clear a ton of people for
> a
> > flight .. sure. But I travel rather more extensively and so far have more
> > often than not been asked for id.
> >
>
> ID, yes. Credit card, no. That's been my experience so far.
>
> --
> Sumant Srivathsan
> http://sumants.blogspot.com
>


Seems to happen more for international cards (which most  cards nowdays
are).

Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:19 PM, . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Its too damn late by then. The time to do any of that is during the
> >> transaction time. Or you get hit with chargebacks and penalties
> >> Long before the pax actually flies.
> >>
> >>
> > I dont get it.  How does asking the passenger for a copy of the credit
> card
> > help ?
>
> a chargeback is a penalty which a bank slaps on the merchant when the
> card holder cancels the charge to his/her card. What if the CC holder
> files a "card was lost, dont honor this transaction" with their bank?
> Well someone has to pay transaction costs, right!! Here they are
> assuming that anyone who does not have a copy of the C.Card has
> fraudulently obtained the numbers (with CCV) and used it for online
> ticket purchase.
>


Once the person files that the card is lost, the card should get blocked.
the Passenger accepts liability for charges till then.

To  clarify:  I understand the intent of the airlines, but I am questioning
the harassment to genuine passengers who have asked someone to book their
tickets as happens with me.

My point is that passengers do have proof of identity of the person
traveling and it should be possible  to track anyone who has made a
fraudulent purchase.  Another point is that I have paid for the ticket and
the charge has got debited to my credit card so i have become a paying
customer.

And finally; Whats so different about airlines compared to any other online
service.   If at all, there is an actual proof of identity of the passenger
unlike other online transactions



Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Deepak Misra [29/09/08 14:04 +0530]:
>
>> Given that one needs to provide a proof of identity for travel, it should
>> be
>> possible to track down misuse quite easily.
>>
>
> Its too damn late by then. The time to do any of that is during the
> transaction time. Or you get hit with chargebacks and penalties
> Long before the pax actually flies.
>
>
I dont get it.  How does asking the passenger for a copy of the credit card
help ?

Deepak  Misra

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Sumant Srivathsan [29/09/08 13:27 +0530]:
>
>> What? If the online service doesn't work, Kingfisher is cool with the
>> customer going to another airline, but not with engaging in offline
>> customer
>> service? Bizarre.
>>
>
> These are being misquoted and/or misread. They are perfectly fine with you
> booking tickets over the phone from their call center, through a travel
> agent etc.
>


That is the problem of having ambitious language. While the intent is clear
, the  wording is quite funny.  The wording seems to suggest quite clearly
that  one cannot approach a travel agent if their website is down.



>
> As for cc identification - thats not unique to india, most places that are
> plagued with cc fraud use some such means.. asking the pax to carry their
> card, or a photocopy (with cvv2 blanked out) of the booking card, signed by
> the booking guy. Especially in India, several airlines have lost huge
> amounts of money to card fraud.
>


Given that one needs to provide a proof of identity for travel, it should be
possible to track down misuse quite easily.


Deepak

Re: [silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Airlines are asking for copies of the credit card used for booking at the
> time of checkin.
>
>  I book tickets for relatives and find it a pain to send them copies of my
> card everytime I book a ticket for them.
>
> In case the passenger does not have a copy of the credit card (s)he can be
> denied passage and airlines seem to be taking this seriously.
>
> I saw the fine print on Kingfishers website and saw presentation of credit
> card copy as one of the terms and condition (along with a lot of other
> interesting terms and conditions on what all the airlines is not liable for
> and the powers they have).
>
> This is to be to prevent fraud but any thoughts on the legality ?
>
> Deepak Misra
>


Gets more interesting

>From the terms and conditions:

The Passenger must not:


   - use other means to transact or obtain information if you are unable to
   use the Kingfisher Airlines online booking facility.

No Representation - Kingfisher Airlines does not warrant or represent that
the Passenger's access to the Kingfisher Airlines online booking facility
will be uninterrupted or error-free or that any information, data, content,
software or other material accessible through the Kingfisher Airlines online
booking facility will be free of bugs, viruses, worms, Trojan horses or
other harmful components

[silk] Copy of Credit Card required at airlines checkin

[Deepak Misra]

Airlines are asking for copies of the credit card used for booking at the
time of checkin.

 I book tickets for relatives and find it a pain to send them copies of my
card everytime I book a ticket for them.

In case the passenger does not have a copy of the credit card (s)he can be
denied passage and airlines seem to be taking this seriously.

I saw the fine print on Kingfishers website and saw presentation of credit
card copy as one of the terms and condition (along with a lot of other
interesting terms and conditions on what all the airlines is not liable for
and the powers they have).

This is to be to prevent fraud but any thoughts on the legality ?

Deepak Misra

[silk] Journalism

[Deepak Misra]

Those  on the wodehouse yahoogroup would have seen this

http://www.thehindu.com/2008/07/01/stories/2008070152221100.htm

I did read the original "news item" on the Times of India and had found it
to be an obvious fake. What had baffled me then was that whoever had written
the article did not seem to have done even elementary credibility checks -
but then nothing from TOI surprises  you.

What is however surprising that other newspapers seem to have been fooled
too.

Not sure if this is hilarious or sad.


Deepak

Re: [silk] Life After the Oil Crash

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Bharat Shetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> For the perusal of silk-listers,
>
> I don't know if this article has been posted earlier on this lists. But, if
> the statistics, references in this article are true and accurate, then this
> article makes sense, I think.
>
> http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
>
> -- Bharat
>

Very scary. I did get goose pimples reading it.

I would normally assume that technology in the form of alternative sources
would come to the rescue - however it is true that not enough investment has
been made to have a sufficient impact in the time frame it is needed


Deepak

[silk] Deccan Herald Site running malware ?

[Deepak Misra]

Wanting to read an old page on DH

www.*deccanherald*.com/content/Oct252007/panorama2007102432140.asp

I searched for it on Google and get  a message that DH is listed as a
suspicious site and accessing pages cause malware to be installed on your
computer :-(

Details:
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/Oct252007/panorama2007102432140.asp

I consider myself lucky that I navigated to the page from Google and hence
caught this in time

However  makes we wonder if we are really ready for online content.

I was curious as to the statement

<<<<

*How did this happen?*

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites,
which would cause us to show the warning message.

>>>>

So how is this done ? By hacking passwords ?

Deepak Misra

Re: [silk] romance and reading

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What a lovely medley of authors this thread has unleashed.
>
> I am surprised that Wodehouse seems such a favourite; I thought he was
> passeand I thought I was part of a minority (and of course Vod ka
> Raja who often uses Wodhousian phrases)  who would like him.
>
> Yes, Vikram Seth has a W with W, as Bertie Wooster would say... a Way
> with Words.
>


In case wodehouse fans are not aware of the yahoogroup WodehouseIndia,

check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WodehouseIndia/



Non serious "Wodehousians" may get overwhelmed though

Deepak

Re: [silk] query on abe books (http://www.abebooks.com/)

[Deepak Misra]

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, K. Arun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  > is it safe to transact here for second hand books ?? If not which are
> the
> >  >  reliable places to buy second hand books?
> >  I haven't had any problems having bought a few hundred dollars' worth
> >  of books from there.  Do keep an eye on the booksellers' ratings
> >  though.
>
> I've bought books from abebooks since 2000. Have never had a problem
> buying through them some good ones including a copy of Aubrey Menon's
> _Rama Retold_ (a book that is banned in India) a yellowing edition of
> Henri Mouhout's journals.
>
> +1 on Arun's advise.
>
> Thaths
> --
>

Thanks

I have had a bad experience with smaller online book shops in India. Well
not a bad experience but almost a  bad experience. These shops don't seem to
have an updated list of stock and one needs to actually call them and find
out if they have the required book in stock.
Luckily I have always called and checked  before hitting the pay button

Deepak Misra

[silk] query on abe books (http://www.abebooks.com/)

[Deepak Misra]

is it safe to transact here for second hand books ?? If not which are the
reliable places to buy second hand books?


Deepak

Re: [silk] Confirming silk meet on 17th

[Deepak Misra]

On Dec 11, 2007 6:30 PM, Bharath Chari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All,
>
> Just confirming that the 17th is on at my place. Say around 7.30pm?
> Headcount please?
>
> So far I count:
>
>
My status has changed to tentative since something has comeup in the
meantime


Deepak

Re: [silk] Memory, from NatGeo

[Deepak Misra]

>
>
> Can't speak for Shoba, but my RDs are gone. Deepak picked them up
> just a day after I made the offer here.
>
> Udhay, already filling up the shelf space thus freed.
>
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>
> How long do I have to wait for the shelf to start overflowing again ?

Deepak

Re: [silk] 10th Anniversary silkmeet

[Deepak Misra]

count me in

Deepak

On Dec 9, 2007 8:34 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next
> Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in
> "internet time", or even in dog years.
>
> Anybody wants to do a meetup where lots of beer is comsumed, and
> stories are traded?
>
> Discuss.
>
> Udhay
>
> [1] http://www.netropolis.org/silklist/msg3.html
>
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>
>

Re: [silk] home book cataloging software ?

[Deepak Misra]

On Dec 2, 2007 2:45 PM, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking for such a software preferably free, not an online
> service, and which runs on either linux or mac os x...
>
> any suggestions ?
>
> ashok


While http://www.librarything.com does not meet your requirement since it is
an online system, it is free and has a reasonably decent interface. You can
export your list to a plain text file and maintain offline in excel.

My catalogue is at http://www.librarything.com/catalog/deepak_misra though
still incomplete


Deepak

Re: [silk] List admin?

[Deepak Misra]

On 11/6/07, Madhu M Kurup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm:
>
> Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> >
> > But I'd have figured someone with a gnu.org address would be able to
> figure
> > out how to unsub from a mailman list .. oh well.
> >
>
> Time to confess up, I recently went through an email address change and
> for the life of me could not find the original mail/monthly mail from
> mailman either.  I caved in and emailed the admin(s). It didn't occur to
> me that the headers would have any info ... FWIW.
>
> Cheerio,
> M
> --



I do have the same problem. I have a  catchall address for my domain and use
different names to subscribe to different lists hoping to cut off spam. The
assumption is that I can simply delete the address when I detect it is
getting spam. I often find out who is spamming from the address.  For
example if I have an account with bank Blah-blah I would use the address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now when I get spam mail addressed to blah-blah I
know the guilty culprit. My hit rate has been extremely low till date and I
have started depending more on gmail to detect spam

 A side effect is that  sometimes I forget what email I used and get lost if
this is needed for any reason (such as authentication or password forgotten)

Deepak

Re: [silk] Techie released by police

[Deepak Misra]

On 10/25/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Madhu Menon wrote [at 02:29 PM 10/25/2007] :
>
> >
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>
>
and newspapers always call it IP number instead of IP address.

Deepak

Re: [silk] on a slight tangent

[Deepak Misra]

Works great !

Thanks

Deepak

On 9/7/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/7/07, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My requirement is open FF if link clicked from thunderbird and open IE
> if
> > clicked from outlook
>
> Oh sorry. My bad. Why don't you set FF as your default browser and
> install this (IE View):
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/35
>
> and mark your office sites as requiring to be loaded by IE (in the IE
> View filter). This add on will load an actual instance of IE in that
> tab. Should work.
>
>

Re: [silk] on a slight tangent

[Deepak Misra]

Didtn get it.

How will this open up IE when i click on alink from outlook ?

My requirement is open FF if link clicked from thunderbird and open IE if
clicked from outlook


On 9/7/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/7/07, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anyone have any hacks to achieve this (changing jobs is not an option
> :-) )
>
> In Firefox 2:
>
> "Tools -> Options -> Main / System Defaults -> (checkmark) Always
> check to see if Firefox is the default browser on startup -> Check
> Now"
>
>

[silk] on a slight tangent

[Deepak Misra]

I need to use Internet Explorer for accessing my office intranet since the
whole system is based on MS technologies. However I use Firefox for all non
work related browsing.

The problem is that Internet Explorer is set as my default browser and when
I click on a link in thunderbird , it opens up IE. I would like links
clicked from my email (outlook) to open IE and links clicked from
Thunderbird to open up Firefox.

Anyone have any hacks to achieve this (changing jobs is not an option :-) )

Thanks

Deepak

On 9/7/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gautam John wrote:
> > And they're pimping Firefox
>
> Nothing wrong with that... Any means to get IE wiped out is fine by me...
>
>

[silk] Do not call registery

[Deepak Misra]

Shoddy scripts. I would expect them to validate inputs at a minimum

Here is what I get when I forget to add the state

This is from Bajaj Alliance

Link is http://www.ndncregistry.com/  which links you to different companies

The XXXs are added by me and not the script :-)

Deepak


***

*Do Not Disturb* Registration Completed Successfully:

 Name: Deepak Misra
State:
City: Bangalore
Mobile number: XX
Landline number: XXX
E-Mail Address:
Existing: No

We will take all efforts not to disturb you on the numbers and email
addresses provided by you.

Please allow 30 working days for the removal of the specified numbers or
email address from our databases.

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Field 'dndusers.State' cannot be a
zero-length string.

/lifeinsurance/mailit.asp, line 147

Re: [silk] I want the earth + 5%

[Deepak Misra]

On 8/8/07, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html
>
> Very nicely put together.
>
> Cheeni
>
>
A very delayed response.

Got around to reading this and recommend it to all non-finance/economic
folks who want understand the monetary system. Wish there were many more
such articles to demystify what seem to be very complex  topics.

Deepak

[silk] Someone on this list with CRY ?

[Deepak Misra]

Sorry for this blast-o-gram

Isnt someone on this group with CRY ?

I needed to communicate in this regard

Ping me off-list to reduce noise


Thanks

Deepak Misra

[silk] Looking for some material on Linux

[Deepak Misra]

I am looking for some material on "The importance of Linux in India".

Content is basically market size potential etc and why it is important for
IT and software vendors to focus on this segment - something on those lines

I am in parallel doing google searches but have not got  exactly what I am
looking for. Strangely the searches throw up 3-4 year old docs in the top
and I am not sure of the integrity of the data. Obviously fine tuning the
search would yield results but I am hoping that someone would have some
material already

If any one has a canned presentation/paper and willing to share it - please
send me by email

Thanks

Deepak

Re: [silk] Freebase

[Deepak Misra]

I have some too. let me know by email  if anyone wants some

Deepak

On 6/28/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Some more freebase invites available. You know the drill - ask in
private mail, please.

Udhay

>>This is a VERY interesting (note that it is still in alpha) attempt
>>to leverage "folksonomies" on a grander scale than has yet been
attempted.
>>
>>For those of you who want to explore -- I have 5 invites to give
>>away. The first 5 silklisters who ask (in private mail, please) get
them.
>>
>>Udhay
>>
>>http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/03/freebase_will_p_1.html


--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Fwd: Did you happen to catch the UFO?

[Deepak Misra]

On 6/1/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I seem to recall some small item in the newspaper saying this was a
hoax, but can't find it now. Does anybody here know more?

Udhay

>Reported in Bangalore.
>
>http://www.ibnlive.com/news/spotted-ufo-in-bangalore-sky/41661-11.html




On Tuesday night at around 09:00 PM I was driving on  Hosur road and turning
left towards St. Johns hospital road when I saw something bright moving on
the sky. This would have been in a southerly direction on the map. This
looked too small to be an aircraft and too big to be fireworks.  Erased in
from my mind till this mail.
However the reports cited  say Monday while  this was Tuesday.

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

[Deepak Misra]

I have not been there in a while, but don't recall seing them.

Deepak

On 3/9/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:


Deepak Misra wrote:
> On 3/9/07, Ingrid < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> hurree jamset ram singh lives, ok!
>>
>>
> Unusual to find someone who has read Billy Bunter.
> Anyone have an idea where one can buy old ones ?

The british library?

Re: [silk] Article in today's ET.

[Deepak Misra]

On 3/9/07, Ingrid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


hurree jamset ram singh lives, ok!



Unusual to find someone who has read Billy Bunter.
Anyone have an idea where one can buy old ones ?

Deepak

Re: [silk] odd big brother shilpa spam....

[Deepak Misra]

Your mail went into my spam folder :-)

Deepak

On 2/12/07, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


One of my email addresses, received this spam mail for buying shares
(and another one for viagra pils...)

Probably an indication of popularity of the said news item.

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:32:28 +, "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Shilpa is beautiful, talented and successful. They are nothing like her,
> so they want to hurt her. There is an element of racism in some of the
> remarks, but I think it's I was so surprised to discover that it was
> discussed in British Parliament.  " she told the BBC at the time.  " she
> told the BBC at the time. I have British friends and  She took legal
> action as she thought it was damaging. When it was revealed she would be
> taking part in Celebrity Big Brother, All the newspapers reported the
> story on their front pages. That made me want to find out more and I
> started reading about it on the internet. If the famous people of
Britain
> act this way knowing the outside world watches everything they do, I
> can't imagine how ordinary Asian people get treated by white Brits.
Also,
> the fact that she was called a 'Paki',
>
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get
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> was so surprised to discover that it was discussed in British
Parliament.
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>

Re: [silk] What is all this ??

[Deepak Misra]

On 1/6/07, Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


in infinite wisdom Eugen Leitl spoke thus  On 01/04/2007 05:27 PM:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 05:12:35PM +0530, Deepak Misra wrote:
>> I keep getting such mails. Are these some probes to test spam filters
or are
>> they to confuse them ??
>
> Bayesian spam filter poison. The payload is in the image.

Spamassassin has been able to tag most of these messages as spam
successfully for me(I am using debain's default setup).  For example,
here is X-Spam-Status from one such message
"
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=24.406 tagged_above=-1000 required=3.5
tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=1.447, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=
1.091,
HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP=3.066, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=4.2,
HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=3.6, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,
RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046,
RCVD_IN_XBL=3.897]
"

A large number of small scores add up to give such messages a high score.
--
raj shekhar
facts: http://rajshekhar.net | opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog
I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none.





I am  curious: Is it possible to use this technology in reverse and use
these filters to try and guess the author of  a mail given a collection  of
previous works by many people ??


Deepak

Re: [silk] What is all this ??

[Deepak Misra]

On 1/4/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 2007-01-04 12:57:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Bayesian spam filter poison. The payload is in the image.

Interestingly, I get a fair amount of this sort of spam where there is
*no* attached image, no embedded URLs, etc. I wonder about that.

-- ams

That was my question too - I should have been more clear. When I see an

attachment, I know the poison is there but cant figure out the cases where
there is no attachment.

Deepak

[silk] What is all this ??

[Deepak Misra]

I keep getting such mails. Are these some probes to test spam filters or are
they to confuse them ??

Anyone have any clues ??

Deepak

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Re: [silk] Random Wodehouse quote generator

[Deepak Misra]

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Re: [silk] Indian Police Restructuring

[Deepak Misra]

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I think Badri's question was 'what is the alternative'?Adit.O Vote for better people or accept the status-quo