Comfrey,Symphytum Officinale
Hi Brian ,Barbara and list, Seeing your request for info on Comfrey and not seeing any comprehensive reply, will give you this. COMFREY: Scientific name:Symphytum Officinale. Folk names: Assear,Black Wort, Boneset, Bruisewort, Consolida, Consound, Gum Plant, Healing Herb, Knit Back, Knit Bone, Miracle Herb, Slippery Root, Wallwort, Yalluc. Site: Full sun to partial shade. Soil conditions:Rich, moist garden soil; pH 6.7 to 7.3 Growing guidlines: Propagate by seed, division, or cuttings; space new plants 3 feet (90cm) apart. Establishes easily and requires little care; remove dead leaves during fall clean up. Divide every few years to prevent crowding. Growing habit: Height 3-5 feet (90-150cm);new leaves sprout each spring from a perennial root; leaves lanceolate, large, deep green,and hairy. Flowering time: May to early frost (northern hemisphere);terminal cluster of purple flowers. Pests and disease: Occasionally visted be Japanese beetles,slugs, snails; rarely threatened buy other pests. Harvesting and storing: Pick the leaves and use fresh or dry. Leaves for drying are best picked in spring. Dig up the roots when the plant has died down in fall and dry; store leaves and roots in air-tight containers. Use roots and leaves to treat external bruises, wounds, and sores. Precaution: Suspected carcinogen; do not take internally. Notes: Cool-climate herb, shade-tolerant,hard to kill (easy to grow),its a herbaceous perennial, sometimes called a weed, make a compress or poultice from the leaves and apply to bruises and sprains. Or make an ointment to treat burns and abrasions. For New Age natural folks: Gender: Feminine Planet: Saturn Element: Water Power: Safety during Travel,Money Use: Worn or carried,comfrey protects and ensures safety during travel. Also tuck some into your bags and suitcases to prevent loss or thieft. The root is used in money spells. Bless you all Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Cobalt Blue bottles ???
likow...@earthlink.net wrote: none of us stand a chance and we may as well buy our grave plots right now because of all the things assaulting us at every moment these days! Just walking down a city street we breathe about 2000 new chemicals a year! Dameon Some place in the bible it says something like this, In your wastes, you shall die. I did not find where it says forget it. Other than that, I can understand how your feel. bjs -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Comfrey ,Symphytum Officinale
Hi Brian and Barbara, and listers, Seeing your request for info on Comfrey and not seeing any comprehensive reply,will give you this. COMFREY: Scientific name: Symphytum Officinale Folk names : Assear,Black Wort, Boneset, Bruisewort,Consolida, Consound,Gum Plant, Healing Herb, Knit Back, Knit Bone, Miracle Herb, Slippery Root, Wallwort, Yalluc Site: Full sun to partial shade Soil conditions: Rich, moist garden soil; pH 6.7 to7.3 Growing guidelines: Propagate by seed,division,or cuttings; space new plants 3 feet (90cm) apart. Establishes easily and requires little care; remove dead leaves during fall clean up.Divide every few years to prevent crowding. Growing habit: Height 3-5 feet (90-150cm); new leaves sprout each spring from a perennial root; leaves lanceolate, large,deep green, and hairy. Flowering time: May to early frost (northern hemisphere); terminal cluster of purple flowers. Pests and disease: Occasionally visted by Japanese beetles,slugs snails; rarely threatened buy other pests. Harvesting and storing: Pick the leaves and use fresh or dry. Leaves for drying are best picked in spring. Dig up the roots when the plant has died down in fall and dry;store leaves and roots in air-tight containers. Use roots and leaves to treat external bruises,wounds,and sores. Precaution: Suspected carcinogen; do not take internally. Notes: Cool-climate herb,shade-tolerant,hard to kill (easy to grow), its a herbaceous perennial,sometimes called a weed,make a compress or poultice from the leaves and apply to bruises and sprains.Or make an ointment to treat burns and abrasions. For new age natural folks: Gender: Feminine Planet: Saturn Element: Water Power: Safety during Travel,Money Uses: Worn or carried, comfrey protects and ensures safety during travel. Also tuck some into your bags and suitcases to prevent loss or thieft. The root is used in money spells. Bless you allBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Cobalt Blue GLASS Bottles ???
chc wrote: Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal, EXCEPT: The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to date! So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next? Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer, (by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into another sterile container! Nada! This brings up some SERIOUS QUESTIONS, since cobalt blue GLASS bottles have been recommended (as well as brown GLASS or used peroxide bottles) for the storage of CS since they have no charge that would cause the silver to plate out ...nor would it deactivate from exposure to light! Was the cobalt blue bottle GLASS or was it PLASTIC? The other big question I have is Will the COBALT leach out of the glass and contaminate the contents? The reason I ask is that Hulda Clark recommends that all BLUE products whether for ingesting or for topical use be AVOIDED, since the source of the blue color is COBALT! COBALT is a HEAVY METAL which accumulates in the body! I know that LEAD CRYSTAL should not be used to store wine, etc. because the lead will leach out and contaminate the product. Does the COBALT do the same? Are there any chemists out there who can answer this question? (I am presently re-using the cobalt blue glass bottle that my first CS came in (Future Biotics brand). Thanks in advance! Ginny Ginny; Some very good questions, I had the same ones about cobalt blue glass! The container we tested was blue glass, and it had a plastic sprayer in it. However we did not test the solutions using the sprayer! If that could possibly matter. Please any chemists out there, HELP!!! Thanks, chc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Repost of: TDS-1 Tester is great
Douglas McMurtrie wrote: Tai-Pan wrote: For those who weren`t around back when we all started using TDS-1 testers. :-) Tai-Pan wrote: Greetings all you CS makers and users. Was reading the postings of Ringdance on Wed 1 Apr, and Fred on 2 Apr about their TDS-1 testers. Douglas wrote: Question regarding the TDS-1. I've just placed an order for the Hanna DIST-1 which is a bit more expensive than the TDS-1. The reason that I did so was because the specs on the TDS-1 claimed a margin of error of + - 10 ppm. Not good if we're trying to measure in the 1 - 50 ppm range. Big diff between 5 ppm and 15 ppm. The DIST-1, however, has a margin of error of 2% flat across the scale. That means that at the top end of 2000 ppm it will be + - 40 ppm and down in our range of interest it will have a margin of error of + - 1 ppm at a 50 ppm concentration. I confirmed all this with the tech specialist at Hanna. Did I miss something here? I don't see how one could have confidence in the TDS-1 readings at very low ppm concentrations. Hi Douglas and list, Lets look at some numbers here. TDS-1 , Max range 999ppm ,Accuracy + - 10ppm, Resolution 1ppm DIST-1 , Max range 2000ppm ,Accuracy + - 40ppm, Resolution 4ppm Now for the TDS-1 we have 10/1000(999)= 1% of full scale accuracy. For the DIST-1 we have 40/2000 = 2% of full scale accuracy. We see that both instruments have the accuracy as stated in their spec sheets. The TDS-1 is twice as accurate as the DIST-1. Its resolution is four times better. ADJUSTMENT: If you wish to read at the low end, you calibrate it at the low end. If you wish to read at the high end, you calibrate at the high end. For the TDS-1 this means that at 1% of full scale if you cal it at 1ppm it will be within 1% at the high end or + - 10ppm of 999ppm. Or it means that if you cal it at the high end (say 999) it will be within 1% at the low end or + - 10ppm of the low reading . That is why it has a cal adjustment. Mine is calibrated for the low end since most of my reading are there. Accuracy is misunderstood by many people. A gun is accurate if it puts the bullet in the same place all the time, not in the bulls eye. If it shoots a good group its accurate. Now you can adjust your gun to put the group where you want it(in the bulls eye), that doen`t change its accuracy. Thats what calibration does(moving the group). If we calibrate at 001ppm and the resolution is 1ppm thats really on the money. As we read further up the scale the ppm will slowly get more and more off until we get all the way to the top(high end) where it could be as much as + -10ppm off (but still within 1% of full scale). Hope this helps a bit. Bless youBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
ac generator
Hello Listers, Would the person(s) who posted that they were using the expensive AC GENERATOR (I think around $600) during that AC/DC debate some months back please stand up? Also, anyone else who has knowledge in this area or knows of similar generators. I would like to ask some questions. Thank you - Dameon Dameon, This is Warren. I answered a couple of questions some weeks back for you about my CSpro unit. Some may find interesting the fact that I hooked up 25 volts DC using a lead acid battery and some wet-cell nicads in series to my set-up and made CS a couple of times. The first time the CS turned out very golden yellow, but the second time it was pretty clear. I had forgotten the unit and it ran for about 7 hours (it makes 1/2 gallon batches). I have only used this batch for topical applications. I have had a bad eye infection for several weeks and neither the AC CS or the DC CS I made seemed to help. I find my eyes draining from the infection and nothing I have tried has helped. I'd be happy to answer any questions I can about my CSpro unit. Warren _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Ozonated water
Need info on home-made ozonators. I've seen plans for one and am confident that I can build one. But need a source for a corona wire ozonator (not UV light). Have called around to various salt water aquarium stores and they can get one for me. However they want to know the specs I want. I don't know what to say. They also want to know which brand(s). Any answers out there? Have you built one or are aware of someone building one? Also in the results of web searching spa ozonators have turned up. Ant opinions on these??? Thanks, Carl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Ozonated water
Need info on home-made ozonators. I've seen plans for one and am confident that I can build one. But need a source for a corona wire ozonator (not UV light). Have called around to various salt water aquarium stores and they can get one for me. However they want to know the specs I want. I don't know what to say. They also want to know which brand(s). Any answers out there? Have you built one or are aware of someone building one? Also in the results of web searching spa ozonators have turned up. Ant opinions on these??? Thanks, Carl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Cobalt Blue bottles
Hi, All! chc wrote: Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal, EXCEPT: The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to date! So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next? Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer, (by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into another sterile container! Nada! This brings up some SERIOUS QUESTIONS, since cobalt blue GLASS bottles have been recommended (as well as brown GLASS or used peroxide bottles) for the storage of CS since they have no charge that would cause the silver to plate out ...nor would it deactivate from exposure to light! Was the cobalt blue bottle GLASS or was it PLASTIC? The other big question I have is Will the COBALT leach out of the glass and contaminate the contents? The reason I ask is that Hulda Clark recommends that all BLUE products whether for ingesting or for topical use be AVOIDED, since the source of the blue color is COBALT! COBALT is a HEAVY METAL which accumulates in the body! I know that LEAD CRYSTAL should not be used to store wine, etc. because the lead will leach out and contaminate the product. Does the COBALT do the same? Are there any chemists out there who can answer this question? (I am presently re-using the cobalt blue glass bottle that my first CS came in (Future Biotics brand). Thanks in advance! Ginny -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Just thoughts
Hi Mike and listers, the doers and workers of wonders, Wow! Gone two weeks and came back to over five hundred postings. Will take two weeks to go through them. But thats good ,cause that means things are happening. Always love people that are *doing*. They are the ones that make the world worth living in. My last post before leaving two weeks ago was about proportions (the size of things).Someone has suggested I was cutting someone down. Don`t have time to do such stuff. Went back and hunted for the original post where I had picked up the number(blood cell size)used in the discussion. Found it was Susan. Now I want everyone to know I don`t pick on people ,especially Susan.She has done more for this list than any ten of us put together.I have the VERY highest appreciation and respect for her. Have just seen that Candice has left us. Thats our loss. she is another person thats done a lot for this list. Notice a lot of doctor bashing. Know there is room for change but ,go to Bageldash and try it there. Ever notice that the rest of the world comes here for the best medical care. All the big mucky mucks come here for care,wonder why? See a thread on stirring. Haven`t read it yet but I stir things while making CS. Counter-clockwise(northern hemiphere) about twenty times every five minutes. Need to get on to other things now. Bless you allBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Repost of: TDS-1 Tester is great
For those who weren`t around back when we all started using TDS-1 testers. :-) Tai-Pan wrote: Greetings all you CS makers and users. Was reading the postings of Ringdance on Wed 1 Apr, and Fred on 2 Apr about their TDS-1 testers. Someone has passed on the idea that the TDS-1 is a conductivity measuring tool. Its *NOT* a conductivity tester. I also thought it was, until I ran some tests on it. Then I called Hanna Inst. Tech service to get the straight scoop on it. It measures IONIC CURRENT,only. If the fluid has a lot of particles in it and some are charged (ionic) and some are not, it will only read the charged ions. The TDS-1 probes are BOTH stainless steel and there fore will NOT produce an electric potential . The TDS-1 does NOT apply any electric potential to the probes. I have read the probes with a volt meter on the 4 micro volt scale and its reading zero. When the TDS-1 is placed into an ionic solution the emf (electromotive force) of the ions will cause a current to flow between the two probes which is measured and displayed as PPM of IONS. Reagents and other calibration fluids are really used to precipitate unwanted things out of the fluid. When I first recieved my TDS-1 I tested it in pure distilled water as reading 001ppm and then put the test fluid into storage for future testing of its (TDS-1) calibration. Since I go to great lengths to make sure nothing is in my CS , only pure H2O and single atoms of ionic silver, the TDS-1 will measure only the SINGLE ATOMS OF IONIC SILVER in my CS. I am going to make a posting on how I do this. This TDS-1 is probably more accuate than the lab tests you get with all their reagents etc. The TDS-1 *IS* a lab test instunment. An airplane pilot I know said if you can`t trust your instruments your in trouble. Remember it reads IONIC CURRENT not conductivity. Now lets have some fun with it. Run some cold water from your kitchen faucet into a ceramic coffee mug. Read it--mine reads 233ppm. About normal for city water. Now dump it out and put in some warm water. read it--mine jumps up to 350ppm and the reading slowly drops as the fluid cools and the mug warms up .It will stabilize about 320ppm as the temperature equalizes between the water and the mug and everything is warm. Now dump it out and put in some real hot water from the faucet. read it--mine reads 460ppm and slowly drops as the temperature of the water and mug equalize, down about 327ppm , let it stand and cool awhile and it will keep dropping to the cold water reading or close to it, about 270ppm or so . Your reading will be not the same as mine since your city water is not the same as mine. Took some water from my Brita water filter. Reads 341ppm after going thru the ACTIVATED charcoal filter. It removes lead and copper by chemical action. They are poison to us. Also created a lot of ions by catalytic action. Not silver ions however. Went to a friends well out in the country and got a reading 006ppm from his water (It tasted good). Ions are CREATED by heating,by flow in METAL pipes ,by contaninates, by pollution of the water, by water heaters, BY electric current, by flames of burning, by radiation,by catalytic action etc.. All we want to do is measure the ionic current CAUSED by passing electricity thru pure water with silver electrodes and read it as PPM of IONS (silver ions) . That is what the TDS-1 does. The other day I opened up a new jug of distilled water and found it read 003ppm ,wondering if it was the water or the tester, got out my jar of calibration water (remember me putting that away at the beginning of this posting) I stuck the tester in it and it read 001ppm. Great ,now I know the tester is OK and the distilled water is not quite pure. I`ll just subtract the BASELINE 3 from my CS reading after makeing my CS, its real simple. Just be SURE you don`t get any thing in your CS except pure H2O and SINGLE ATOMS of IONIC SILVER. More on that soon.When my TDS-1 reads 20ppm in my CS I know its 20ppm of SINGLE SILVER ATOMS in the IONIC state. Thanks for taking the time to read this and keep on doing whats good for your selfs. Bless you all. Bob Lee dont cuss the farmer with your mouth full -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
MCT Update - Like the Energizer Bunny
...this group keeps giving and giving. Look at that bottom line folks!!! For now the fund stands as follows: Bruce K. Stenulson stenul...@amigo.net - $20.00 Paul Bembower bembo...@fastrans.net - $20.00 M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net - $20.00 Nick Ferraro trans...@aol.com- $50.00 Sandi swoinow...@plix.com - $50.00 Michael Mahoneymmaho...@eoni.com - $20.00 Bill VSbill...@cheerful.com- $20.00 Jerry WineBrenner win...@aol.com - $20.00 Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com - $20.00 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net - $10.00 Fidget fid...@warwick.net - $10.00 Robert Wells robert.we...@ny.ubs.com - $50.00 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 530.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS Testing - Long Post Bear with
Here's a suggestion. Try several different brands or makes and see if they kill anything before looking at particle size, PPM, etc. Take Care Reid ___ Dear Group; Then please snd them to me to muscle test. I just can't help wondering if doing Applied Kinesiology would be alot less expensive and just as accurate! I've been doing AK and teaching it to DC's, NPs, Dentists for 15 years now. I'll do it for free. It certainly would provide a good double blind. I can't believe I am volunteering this! Let me explain. There are points on the body that activate when a person has infection. A good kinesiologist can tell when a person has a virus active, yeast, bacteria, even Lyme, by my testing. Anyway, if a product is bactericidal, it will eliminate the reflex if the person just holds a small amount of the solution in their field. Let me give you an example. For my Lyme research, I am testing people with and without documented Lyme to prove that there a definite reflexes that appear on the body when a person contracts Lyme. So far 100% of the people I have tested, before knowing their diagnosis have + Lyme Reflex that also had proven diagnosed Lyme. Step I So now I have been testing CS products home made and many of the commercial products for some time now, to see what ones strengthen the +Lyme and other infectious reflexes, and by how much. I actually can quantify how much it works. Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal, EXCEPT: The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to date! So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next? Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer, (by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into another sterile container! Nada! So folks, did the cobalt blue bottle somehow, neutralize the activity of the CS?? Sure looks like it. So while I am testing, different glass bottles (All of the brown glass test fine) different plastics that some manufacturers use, even for homeopathics, I sure would be interested in also testing and scoring any brews just as a back up test. Inquiring minds want to know! If you do not want to do this, I'm OK with it also. Please let me know. I do not manufacture or sell or represent any CS companies. If you want, you can number samples. I am just interested in the science and resaerch of this. I am biased however. I too want to see methods, by which home CS makers become self sufficient and take charge of their health and can make in their homes, good quality, efficacious CS! Thanks for listening. chc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net