Comfrey,Symphytum Officinale

1998-07-22 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Brian ,Barbara and list,
   Seeing your request for info on Comfrey and not seeing any
   comprehensive reply, will give you this.
 
   COMFREY:
 
   Scientific name:Symphytum Officinale.
   Folk names: Assear,Black Wort, Boneset, Bruisewort, Consolida,
   Consound, Gum Plant, Healing Herb, Knit Back,
   Knit Bone, Miracle Herb, Slippery Root, Wallwort,
   Yalluc.
   Site:   Full sun to partial shade.
   Soil conditions:Rich, moist garden soil; pH 6.7 to 7.3
   Growing guidlines: Propagate by seed, division, or cuttings;
   space new plants 3 feet (90cm) apart. Establishes
   easily and requires little care; remove dead leaves
   during fall clean up. Divide every few years to
   prevent crowding.
   Growing habit:  Height 3-5 feet (90-150cm);new leaves sprout each
   spring from a perennial root; leaves lanceolate,
   large, deep green,and hairy.
   Flowering time: May to early frost (northern hemisphere);terminal
   cluster of purple flowers.
   Pests and disease: Occasionally visted be Japanese beetles,slugs,
   snails; rarely threatened buy other pests.
   Harvesting and storing: Pick the leaves and use fresh or dry. Leaves
   for drying are best picked in spring. Dig up the
   roots when the plant has died down in fall and dry;
   store leaves and roots in air-tight containers.
   Use roots and leaves to treat external bruises,
   wounds, and sores.
   Precaution: Suspected carcinogen; do not take internally.
   Notes:  Cool-climate herb, shade-tolerant,hard to kill (easy
   to grow),its a herbaceous perennial, sometimes called
   a weed, make a compress or poultice from the leaves
   and apply to bruises and sprains. Or make an
   ointment to treat burns and abrasions.
   For New Age natural folks:
   Gender: Feminine
   Planet: Saturn
   Element: Water
   Power: Safety during Travel,Money
   Use: Worn or carried,comfrey protects and ensures
safety during travel. Also tuck some into your
bags and suitcases to prevent loss or thieft.
The root is used in money spells.
 
 Bless you all   Bob Lee
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Re: Cobalt Blue bottles ???

1998-07-22 Thread bjs1779
likow...@earthlink.net wrote:

 none of us stand a chance and we may as well buy our grave plots right
 now because of all the things assaulting us at every moment these days!
 Just walking down a city street we breathe about 2000 new chemicals a
 year! 
 Dameon
 

Some place in the bible it says something like this, In your wastes,
you
shall die. I did not find where it says forget it. Other than that, I
can
understand how your feel.
bjs


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Comfrey ,Symphytum Officinale

1998-07-22 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Brian and Barbara, and listers,
 Seeing your request for info on Comfrey and not seeing any
comprehensive reply,will give you this.
 
  COMFREY:
   Scientific name: Symphytum Officinale  
   Folk names : Assear,Black Wort, Boneset,
Bruisewort,Consolida, Consound,Gum Plant, Healing Herb,
Knit Back, Knit Bone, Miracle Herb, Slippery Root,
Wallwort, Yalluc   
   Site:  Full sun to partial shade
   Soil conditions: Rich, moist garden soil; pH 6.7 to7.3
   Growing guidelines: Propagate by seed,division,or cuttings;
space new plants 3 feet (90cm) apart. Establishes easily
and requires little care; remove dead leaves during
fall clean up.Divide every few years to prevent
crowding.  
   Growing habit: Height 3-5 feet (90-150cm); new leaves sprout
each spring from a perennial root; leaves
lanceolate, large,deep green, and hairy.
   Flowering time: May to early frost (northern hemisphere);
terminal cluster of purple flowers.
   Pests and disease: Occasionally visted by Japanese
beetles,slugs snails; rarely threatened buy other
pests.   
   Harvesting and storing: Pick the leaves and use fresh or dry.
Leaves for drying are best picked in spring. Dig up the
roots  when the plant has died down in fall and
dry;store  leaves and roots in air-tight containers.
Use roots and
leaves to treat external bruises,wounds,and sores.
   Precaution: Suspected carcinogen; do not take internally.
   Notes: Cool-climate herb,shade-tolerant,hard to kill (easy to grow),
its a herbaceous perennial,sometimes called a
weed,make a compress or poultice from the leaves and
apply to bruises and sprains.Or make an ointment to
treat burns
and abrasions.
   For new age natural folks: 
Gender: Feminine
Planet: Saturn
Element: Water
Power: Safety during Travel,Money
Uses: Worn or carried, comfrey protects and
ensures safety during travel. Also tuck some into your
bags and suitcases to prevent loss or thieft. The root
is used in money spells.


   Bless you allBob Lee  
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Cobalt Blue GLASS Bottles ???

1998-07-22 Thread chc
chc wrote:
Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer

sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal,
EXCEPT:
The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I

could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This

is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to
date!
So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass
container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next?

Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer,
(by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed
out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It
totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I
again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into
another sterile container! Nada!

This brings up some SERIOUS QUESTIONS, since cobalt blue GLASS bottles
have been recommended (as well as brown GLASS or used peroxide bottles)
for the storage of CS since they have no charge that would cause the
silver to plate out ...nor would it deactivate from exposure to light!
Was the cobalt blue bottle GLASS or was it PLASTIC?

The other big question I have is Will the COBALT leach out of the glass

and contaminate the contents?  The reason I ask is that Hulda Clark
recommends that all BLUE products whether for ingesting or for topical
use be AVOIDED, since the source of the blue color is COBALT!  COBALT is

a HEAVY METAL which accumulates in the body!  I know that LEAD CRYSTAL
should not be used to store wine, etc. because the lead will leach out
and contaminate the product.  Does the COBALT do the same?

Are there any chemists out there who can answer this question?  (I am
presently re-using the cobalt blue glass bottle that my first CS came in

(Future Biotics brand).

Thanks in advance!
Ginny


Ginny; Some very good questions, I had the same ones about cobalt blue
glass!
The container we tested was blue glass, and it had a plastic sprayer in
it. However we did not test the solutions using the sprayer! If that
could possibly matter.

Please any chemists out there, HELP!!!

Thanks,

chc




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Re: Repost of: TDS-1 Tester is great

1998-07-22 Thread Tai-Pan
Douglas McMurtrie wrote:
 
 Tai-Pan wrote:
 
  For those who weren`t around back when we all started using TDS-1
  testers. :-)
  Tai-Pan wrote:
  
   Greetings all you CS makers and users.
Was reading the postings of Ringdance on Wed 1 Apr, and Fred on 2 Apr
   about their TDS-1 testers.
Douglas wrote:
 Question regarding the TDS-1. I've just placed an order for the Hanna
 DIST-1 which is a bit more expensive than the TDS-1. The reason that I
 did so was because the specs on the TDS-1 claimed a margin of error of +
 - 10 ppm. Not good if we're trying to measure in the 1 - 50 ppm range.
 Big diff between 5 ppm and 15 ppm. The DIST-1, however, has a margin of
 error of 2% flat across the scale. That means that at the top end of
 2000 ppm it will be + - 40 ppm and down in our range of interest it will
 have a margin of error of + - 1 ppm at a 50 ppm concentration. I
 confirmed all this with the tech specialist at Hanna. Did I miss
 something here? I don't see how one could have confidence in the TDS-1
 readings at very low ppm concentrations.
 
Hi Douglas and list,
 Lets look at some numbers here.
  TDS-1  , Max range  999ppm ,Accuracy  + - 10ppm, Resolution 1ppm  
 DIST-1  , Max range 2000ppm ,Accuracy  + - 40ppm, Resolution 4ppm 

   Now for the TDS-1 we have  10/1000(999)= 1% of full scale accuracy.
   For the DIST-1 we have  40/2000 = 2% of full scale accuracy.

   We see that both instruments have the accuracy as stated in their
spec sheets. The TDS-1 is twice as accurate as the DIST-1. Its
resolution is four times better.
  ADJUSTMENT: If you wish to read at the low end, you calibrate it at
the low end. If you wish to read at the high end, you calibrate at the
high end. For the TDS-1 this means that at 1% of full scale if you cal
it at 1ppm it will be within 1% at the high end or + - 10ppm of 999ppm.
Or it means that if you cal it at the high end (say 999) it will be
within 1% at the low end or + - 10ppm of the low reading . That is why
it has a cal adjustment. Mine is calibrated for the low end since most
of my reading are there.
  Accuracy is misunderstood by many people. A gun is accurate if it puts
the bullet in the same place all the time, not in the bulls eye. If it
shoots a good group its accurate. Now you can adjust your gun to put the
group where you want it(in the bulls eye), that doen`t change its
accuracy. Thats what calibration does(moving the group). 
  If we calibrate at 001ppm and the resolution is 1ppm thats really on
the money. As we read further up the scale the ppm will slowly get more
and more off until we get all the way to the top(high end) where it
could be as much as + -10ppm off (but still within 1% of full scale).
  Hope this helps a bit.

  Bless youBob Lee
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ac generator

1998-07-22 Thread maneagle summer


Hello Listers,

Would the person(s) who posted that they were using the expensive AC
GENERATOR (I think around $600) during that AC/DC debate some months
back please stand up? Also, anyone else who has knowledge in this area
or knows of similar generators.

I would like to ask some questions.

Thank you -

Dameon

 Dameon, This is Warren. I answered a couple of questions some weeks
back for you about my CSpro unit. Some may find interesting the fact
that I hooked up 25 volts DC using a lead acid battery and some
wet-cell nicads in series to my set-up and made CS a couple of times.
The first time the CS turned out very golden yellow, but the second
time it was pretty clear. I had forgotten the unit and it ran for
about 7 hours (it makes 1/2 gallon batches). I have only used this
batch for topical applications.

I have had a bad eye infection for several weeks and neither the AC CS
or the DC CS I made seemed to help. I find my eyes draining from the
infection and nothing I have tried has helped.

I'd be happy to answer any questions I can about my CSpro unit.

Warren




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Ozonated water

1998-07-22 Thread Carl J.
Need info on home-made ozonators.  I've seen plans for one and am confident
that I can build one.  But need a source for a corona wire ozonator (not UV
light).  Have called around to various salt water aquarium stores and they
can get one for me.  However they want to know the specs I want.  I don't
know what to say.  They also want to know which brand(s).  Any answers out
there?  Have you built one or are aware of someone building one?
Also in the results of web searching spa ozonators have turned up.  Ant
opinions on these???

Thanks,
Carl


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Ozonated water

1998-07-22 Thread Carl J.
Need info on home-made ozonators.  I've seen plans for one and am confident
that I can build one.  But need a source for a corona wire ozonator (not UV
light).  Have called around to various salt water aquarium stores and they
can get one for me.  However they want to know the specs I want.  I don't
know what to say.  They also want to know which brand(s).  Any answers out
there?  Have you built one or are aware of someone building one?
Also in the results of web searching spa ozonators have turned up.  Ant
opinions on these???

Thanks,
Carl


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Cobalt Blue bottles

1998-07-22 Thread Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969
Hi, All!

chc wrote:
Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer
sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal,
EXCEPT:
The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I
could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This
is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to
date!
So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass
container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next?
Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer,
(by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed
out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It
totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I
again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into
another sterile container! Nada!

This brings up some SERIOUS QUESTIONS, since cobalt blue GLASS bottles
have been recommended (as well as brown GLASS or used peroxide bottles)
for the storage of CS since they have no charge that would cause the
silver to plate out ...nor would it deactivate from exposure to light!
Was the cobalt blue bottle GLASS or was it PLASTIC?

The other big question I have is Will the COBALT leach out of the glass
and contaminate the contents?  The reason I ask is that Hulda Clark
recommends that all BLUE products whether for ingesting or for topical
use be AVOIDED, since the source of the blue color is COBALT!  COBALT is
a HEAVY METAL which accumulates in the body!  I know that LEAD CRYSTAL
should not be used to store wine, etc. because the lead will leach out
and contaminate the product.  Does the COBALT do the same?

Are there any chemists out there who can answer this question?  (I am
presently re-using the cobalt blue glass bottle that my first CS came in
(Future Biotics brand).

Thanks in advance!
Ginny


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Just thoughts

1998-07-22 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Mike and listers, the doers and workers of wonders,
 Wow! Gone two weeks and came back to over five hundred postings. Will
take two weeks to go through them. But thats good ,cause that means
things are happening. Always love people that are *doing*. They are the
ones that make the world worth living in.
 My last post before leaving two weeks ago was about proportions (the
size of things).Someone has suggested I was cutting someone down. Don`t
have time to do such stuff. Went back and hunted for the original post
where I had picked up the number(blood cell size)used in the
discussion.  Found it was Susan. Now I want everyone to know I don`t
pick on people ,especially Susan.She has done more for this list than
any ten of us put together.I have the VERY highest appreciation and
respect for her.
 Have just seen that Candice has left us. Thats our loss. she is another
person thats done a lot for this list.
 Notice a lot of doctor bashing. Know there is room for change but ,go
to Bageldash and try it there. Ever notice that the rest of the world
comes here for the best medical care. All the big mucky mucks come here
for care,wonder why?
 See a thread on stirring. Haven`t read it yet but I stir things while 
making CS. Counter-clockwise(northern hemiphere) about twenty times
every five minutes.
  Need to get on to other things now.
   Bless you allBob Lee
 
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Repost of: TDS-1 Tester is great

1998-07-22 Thread Tai-Pan
For those who weren`t around back when we all started using TDS-1
testers. :-)
Tai-Pan wrote:
 
 Greetings all you CS makers and users.
  Was reading the postings of Ringdance on Wed 1 Apr, and Fred on 2 Apr
 about their TDS-1 testers.
   Someone has passed on the idea that the TDS-1 is a conductivity
 measuring tool. Its *NOT* a conductivity tester. I also thought it was,
 until I ran some tests on it. Then I called Hanna Inst. Tech service to
 get the straight scoop on it.
   It measures IONIC CURRENT,only. If the fluid has a lot of particles in
 it and some are charged (ionic) and some are not, it will only read the
 charged ions.
   The TDS-1 probes are BOTH stainless steel and there fore will NOT
 produce an electric potential . The TDS-1 does NOT apply any electric
 potential to the probes. I have read the probes with a volt meter on the
 4 micro volt scale and its reading zero.
  When the TDS-1 is placed into an ionic solution the emf (electromotive
 force) of the ions will cause a current to flow between the two probes
 which is measured and displayed as PPM of IONS.
   Reagents and other calibration fluids are really used to precipitate
 unwanted things out of the fluid.
   When I first recieved my TDS-1 I tested it in pure distilled water as
 reading 001ppm and then put the test fluid into storage for future
 testing of its (TDS-1) calibration.
   Since I go to great lengths to make sure nothing is in my CS , only
 pure H2O and single atoms of ionic silver, the TDS-1 will measure only
 the SINGLE ATOMS OF IONIC SILVER in my CS. I am going to make a posting
 on how I do this.
   This TDS-1 is probably more accuate than the lab tests you get with
 all their reagents etc. The TDS-1 *IS* a lab test instunment. An
 airplane pilot I know said if you can`t trust your instruments your in
 trouble.
  Remember it reads IONIC CURRENT not conductivity.
   Now lets have some fun with it.
   Run some cold water from your kitchen faucet into a ceramic coffee
 mug. Read it--mine reads 233ppm. About normal for city water. Now dump
 it out and put in some warm water. read it--mine jumps up to 350ppm and
 the reading slowly drops as the fluid cools and the mug warms up .It
 will stabilize about 320ppm as the temperature equalizes between the
 water and the mug and everything is warm.
   Now dump it out and put in some real hot water from the faucet.
 read it--mine reads 460ppm and slowly drops as the temperature of the
 water and mug equalize, down about 327ppm , let it stand and cool awhile
 and it will keep dropping to the cold water reading or close to it,
 about 270ppm or so . Your reading will be not the same as mine since
 your city water is not the same as mine.
  Took some water from my Brita water filter. Reads 341ppm after going
 thru the ACTIVATED charcoal filter. It removes lead and copper by
 chemical action. They are poison to us. Also created a lot of ions by
 catalytic action. Not silver ions however.
   Went to a friends well out in the country and got a reading 006ppm
 from his water (It tasted good).
   Ions are CREATED by heating,by flow in METAL pipes ,by contaninates,
 by pollution of the water, by water heaters, BY electric current, by
 flames of burning, by radiation,by catalytic action etc..
   All we want to do is measure the ionic current CAUSED by passing
 electricity thru pure water with silver electrodes and read it as PPM of
 IONS (silver ions) . That is what the TDS-1 does.
  The other day I opened up a new jug of distilled water and found it
 read 003ppm ,wondering if it was the water or the tester, got out my jar
 of calibration water (remember me putting that away at the beginning of
 this posting) I stuck the tester in it and it read 001ppm. Great ,now I
 know the tester is OK and the distilled water is not quite pure. I`ll
 just subtract the BASELINE 3 from my CS reading after makeing my CS, its
 real simple. Just be SURE you don`t get any thing in your CS except pure
 H2O and SINGLE ATOMS of IONIC SILVER. More on that soon.When my TDS-1
 reads 20ppm in my CS I know its 20ppm of SINGLE SILVER ATOMS in the
 IONIC state.
   Thanks for taking the time to read this and keep on doing whats good
 for your selfs. Bless you all.
 
   Bob Lee
 
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MCT Update - Like the Energizer Bunny

1998-07-22 Thread Douglas McMurtrie
...this group keeps giving and giving. Look at that bottom line folks!!!




For now the fund stands as follows:

 Bruce K. Stenulson stenul...@amigo.net - $20.00
 Paul Bembower  bembo...@fastrans.net   - $20.00
 M. G. Devour   mdev...@mail.id.net - $20.00
 Nick Ferraro   trans...@aol.com- $50.00
 Sandi  swoinow...@plix.com - $50.00
 Michael Mahoneymmaho...@eoni.com   - $20.00
 Bill VSbill...@cheerful.com- $20.00
 Jerry WineBrenner  win...@aol.com  - $20.00
 Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com - $20.00
 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net   - $10.00
 Fidget fid...@warwick.net  - $10.00
 Robert Wells   robert.we...@ny.ubs.com - $50.00
 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00
 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net   - $10.00
 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net  - $10.00
 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00
 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net  - $20.00
 Dean Woodward  woodw...@educelec.com   - $20.00 
 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00
 George Martin  gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00
 Douglas McMurtrie  dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net   - $50.00
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  Total to Date $ 530.00


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CS Testing - Long Post Bear with

1998-07-22 Thread chc
   Here's a suggestion. Try several different brands or makes and see
if they kill anything before looking at particle size, PPM, etc.

Take Care

Reid
___

Dear Group;

Then please snd them to me to muscle test. I just can't help
wondering if doing Applied Kinesiology would be alot less expensive and
just as accurate!

I've been doing AK and teaching it to DC's, NPs, Dentists for 15 years
now.
I'll do it for free. It certainly would provide a good double blind.

I can't believe I am volunteering this! Let me explain.

There are points on the body that activate when a person has infection.
A good kinesiologist can tell when a person has a virus active, yeast,
bacteria, even Lyme, by my testing. Anyway, if a product is
bactericidal, it will eliminate the reflex if the person just holds a
small amount of the solution in their field.

Let me give you an example. For my Lyme research, I am testing people
with and without documented Lyme to prove that there a definite reflexes
that appear on the body when a person contracts Lyme. So far 100% of the
people I have tested, before knowing their diagnosis have + Lyme Reflex
that also had proven diagnosed Lyme. Step I

So now I have been testing CS products home made and many of the
commercial products for some time now, to see what ones strengthen the
+Lyme and other infectious reflexes, and by how much. I actually can
quantify how much it works.

Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer
sent me a 42 ppm CS in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal,
EXCEPT:
The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I
could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This
is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to
date!

So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass
container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next?

Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer,
(by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed
out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It
totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I
again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into
another sterile container! Nada!

So folks, did the cobalt blue bottle somehow, neutralize the activity of
the CS?? Sure looks like it.

So while I am testing, different glass bottles (All of the brown glass
test fine) different plastics that some manufacturers use, even for
homeopathics, I sure would be interested in also testing and scoring any
brews just as a back up test.

Inquiring minds want to know!

If you do not want to do this, I'm OK with it also. Please let me know.
I do not manufacture or sell or represent any CS companies. If you want,
you can number samples. I am just interested in the science and resaerch
of this.

I am biased however.

I too want to see methods, by which home CS makers become self
sufficient and take charge of their health and can make in their homes,
good quality, efficacious CS!

Thanks for listening.

chc


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