Water Structure - Must Read

1998-09-03 Thread mbgupta
The following url is an excellent summary of water structure. It attempts
to provide do it yourself procedures as well.

Highly recommed reading it.


http://www.tznet.com/busn/unusual/structure.htm

Chris Gupta


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RE: [Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs]

1998-09-03 Thread Dean Woodward
Hi John and Valerie:

Visited your neat town (that time forgot) last year on an RV travel through
the Northwest. Neat!

Almost as nice as Texas :)

Dean and Patsy Woodward

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Sent:   Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:29 AM
To: surg...@olympus.net
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Subject:[Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs]

Hi John and Valerie,
 That little bit of trivia was a quote by Garrison Keilor on his TV
show on PBS. It was Lake Wobegone, a fictional town in Minnesota , where
 all men were handsome, the children above average, etc. He married a
Norwegian and moved to Norway or Sweden, got bored with it , came back
and started a new show.
  Thats the best I could do. :-)

  Bless  you Bob  Lee
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Re: Sota Instruments

1998-09-03 Thread Clay Anthony
Bless you too!

Here is the SOTA link:

http://www.sota-inc.com/

Clay

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From: Paul Bembower bembo...@fastrans.net
To: Colloidal Silver mail-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 3:06 PM
Subject: Sota Instruments


Could someone please post the URL for Sota Instruments?

Thanks  Blessings!  bembower


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Fw: Interesting! OFF TOPIC

1998-09-03 Thread tj garland

-Original Message-
From: Jerry  Barbara Camp jbc...@meta3.net
To: T.J. Garland garl...@clnk.com
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:29 PM
Subject: Interesting!


This was forwarded to me by a friend in Alabama.  Don't know how
accurate info is, but is very interesting!



 Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 7:37 AM
 Subject: Clinton's friends

 Message-ID: 35edf6f9.7...@earthlink.net
 Subject:MISSION ACCOMPLISHED HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BILL  
CLINTON'S FRIEND ??

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill  Clinton:

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an 
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement.  He was a key
witness  in Ken Starr's investigation. 

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997  at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she
was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White
House.

Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm.  Died of a gunshot wound to the
head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.  Reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash.  A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the topof Brown's skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II -  - Montgomery Raiser  -Major players in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July
1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a  Dear friend and trusted advisor.

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head.  Ruled a suicide.  Ed
Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House.  Ed Willey was
involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock.  Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
Rock.  Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton.  He
allegedly threatened to reveal this information.  After he died the
files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
Black Book of people containing names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May
1994 was found dead in her living roon with a gunshot to her head.  It
was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as
if  she were going somewhere.  Danny Ferguson was a codefendant along
with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit.  Kathy Ferguson was a
possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. 
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of
his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping
out a window of a tall building January,1994.  His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the
Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case.  Died of three gunshot
wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General.  Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide.  Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until
her death December 9, 1992.  She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.  Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority.  He slit his wrists, apparent
suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 October Surprise was found dead on a toilet June
22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet
Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August 15, 1993.   Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer.  Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang.  Cause of death unknown.  Died November 29, 1996. 
Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department
of 

Sota Instruments

1998-09-03 Thread Paul Bembower
Could someone please post the URL for Sota Instruments?

Thanks  Blessings!  bembower


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Re: [Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs]

1998-09-03 Thread Tai-Pan
John and Valerie Surgeon wrote:
 
 At 11:29 AM 9/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
 Hi John and Valerie,
  That little bit of trivia was a quote by Garrison Keilor on his TV
 show on PBS. It was Lake Wobegone, a fictional town in Minnesota , where
  all men were handsome, the children above average, etc. He married a
 Norwegian and moved to Norway or Sweden, got bored with it , came back
 and started a new show.
   Thats the best I could do. :-)
 
   Bless  you Bob  Lee
 --
 oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
 Great answer, Bob.  Our judges have determined that your answer is correct,
 advancing you to the next round of competition.  After these messages,
 today's final trivia question...
 BTW, your information on Radio Shack magnets is very helpful.  This whole
 magnetism thing is fascinating, especially as it relates to water  health.
  Saul Pressman just made a posting to the oxylist regarding the bottled
 water he produces.  He filtered, ozonated, and magnetised it.  Says it
 comes out real smooth and energetic.
 John and Valerie Surgeon
 surg...@olympus.net

  Hi John  Valerie,
 It was fun,I liked that program.
 Lots of good magnetic stuff in the book * Biomagnetic Handbook* by
Philpott,M.D..
 Also interesting is the magnetic products in the Harriet Carter
catalog. 1-800-377-7878
 They have magnetic knee brace, magnetic bandages, magnetic mattress and
pillow pads, magnetic back brace, magnetic slippers (feet), magnetic
carpal tunnel wrist supports, magnetic patches you can stick on you
anywhere.
 Its in the market place at low prices, just have to know where to look.

   Bless you   Bob  Lee
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[Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs]

1998-09-03 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi John and Valerie,
 That little bit of trivia was a quote by Garrison Keilor on his TV 
show on PBS. It was Lake Wobegone, a fictional town in Minnesota , where
 all men were handsome, the children above average, etc. He married a
Norwegian and moved to Norway or Sweden, got bored with it , came back
and started a new show. 
  Thats the best I could do. :-)

  Bless  you Bob  Lee
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---BeginMessage---
Subject: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs
  Hi John  Valerie,
 I think a lot of us would appreciate some posting on the water
information you have. The how and wherefore of water and *structured*
water is of interest to me. Water info always interests CS makers.
Thanks

  Bless you   Bob  Lee 

Hi Bob and all you cs enthusiasts [you know who you are]

I am trying to get all my h20 and h202 information together.  Some of it
comes from the oxylist, some from the postings of yourself, chc, Chris
Gupta, Brooks Bradley, Jade, Jim, Dameon, and a whole slew of others
[again, you know who you are].  Some comes from such odd places as lists
for goat owners and homesteaders/survivalists/y2k preparers.Of course
oxygenation, ozonation, surface tension reduction, magnetization are all
areas of keen interest.

My difukulty come in organizing and managing the fascinating references,
tidbits of infomation, leading questions, and urls that pour into my
wheezing old 486sx25 through the primitive communications networks of the
far Specific Northwest.  One method I am exploring is using
www.findmail.com.  This seems to be a megacomputer site at Stanford where
the students use the superfacilities to link mondo mailing lists and their
archives so that a subject can be searched on many different lists.  An
example:  I typed in hydrogen peroxide as a search subject.  This took me
to postings from a competitive pistol shooter's list[ they were discussing
cleaning lead deposits out of pistol barrels with peroxide and vinegar], a
dog hiking and packing list [they wanted to get skunk odor off their dog
with peroxide], and a list dealing with the various investigations of
abuse[a police chemist had testified that a flashlight used in a beating
was cleaned with peroxide, and was criticized for not knowing how to test
for peroxide].  So this could take one far afield, but there was
considerable information on health-related issues and peroxide, too.

As I learn more about this site, I hope to subscribe to all my lists
through findmail.com, then be able to get references on one list which
interconnect a similar discussion on another list.  All the archives will
be immediately available, and website references are grouped.  This
requires the list owner's permission, and there may be some drawbacks.  But
it sure sounds good to me.  Also, if there are large off-topic postings,
they could be referenced to at the site, to conserve list bandwidth.

BTW, I received many requests for the alzheimer's/chlamydia connection
article.  If I had set that up right with findmail.com, I could have told
everyone to go there to see the full article.

Your brother-in-law must be a neighbor of mine.  I live in Sequim, on the
Olympic Peninsula, the little town that time forgot and the years cannot
improve,  where all the men are handsome, the women are strong, and the
children are above average.  Ten trivia points if you know where that
drivel came from.
John and Valerie Surgeon
surg...@olympus.net

---End Message---


Re: CS for candida?

1998-09-03 Thread Reid Smith
At 09:41 PM 9/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
Could anyone tell me please, if there is a list, like this wonderful
colloidal silver list, that is about blood electrification (Dr. Beck et
al)?  Or perhaps, how could I go about searching for such a list???:
Thanks.
Percy  --  p...@i-55.com

  There isn't a list but you can find out more about the Beck device if you 
go to http://www.u36.com/fred and follow the link to Becks work from there.
Also Sota has a lot of info on Beck.




Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Winter, off topic

1998-09-03 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Lynne,
  The thing to do is go for a walk in the woods and fields. Be very
observant of everything. Talk to farmers and woodsmen,bird watchers,
animal husband folks, etc.. Get their insight and their observations.
Nature is all around, take time to learn to read it. Watch the animals
and birds,what they are doing,how they look (fur and feathers). Examine
the tree leaves and bark, is fruiting normal, is it early,hows its
color.
  Lots and lots of clues from nature all around us. We need to be more
observant in order to understand its meaning.
  So go out and have a nice walk in the woods and fields and enjoy some
fresh air and stretch your legs.
  Over all I`d say the north will be very cold and wet this year and the
south will be colder and dryer. In any case prepare and don`t worry
about it. If you are in snow country, expect to be snowed in,expect
power to be out,etc..

  Bless youBob  Lee
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Re: subcutaneous boils

1998-09-03 Thread Tai-Pan
M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Bob Lee wrote:
 
  ... taking CS by mouth is also required. Start with two teaspoons a
  day.After a few days increase to three spoons a day, them four
  spoons a day.Keep it up for two weeks.
 
 Hi Bob and Sandy,
 
 Two comments about this advice:
 
 1) You don't say anything about the concentration of the CS you are
 assuming. Folks make/buy/use CS anywhere from a few ppm to several
 tens of ppm. I understand it isn't terribly critical, but a ballpark
 idea would avoid a few major mistakes, at least.
 
 2) Remember Anita (Shiegirl), who had what her doctor described as an
 allergic reaction to her first dose of home-made CS? This was after
 having taking a commercial preparation that others here had used
 successfully.
 
 The shock-like symptoms she described seemed too sudden to have been
 a herx (maybe!). Since that time, I've told folks I know to start
 with a *VERY* small dose (1/2 teaspoon or so) just to guard against
 any *major* reaction should they be actually allergic to the metal.
 If they don't have an immediate bad reaction, then go ahead with a
 starting dose.
 
 This is the first time I've mentioned it here, I think, and I don't
 mean it as anything more than being very careful in the presence of
 an unknown. I don't know how many folks are allergic to silver, if
 any, nor what their reaction would be to a big slug of silver. So
 just to be safe, I've gotten in the habit of recommending a small
 preliminary dose just to screen for any extreme sensitivity.
 
 Besides these quibbles, Bob, I'm grateful for the quality of your
 input. Good words.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 (Oh yeah! I'm the list owner, in case any of you haven't heard from
 me since you signed on. Been busy here, just barely keeping up. I'm
 glad we've had such good contributions from everybody. Thank you,
 everyone. If you need any help with your subscription, let me know!)
 
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
 [Speaking only for myself...  ]
 

 Hi Mike,
  Those are good things to keep in mind. Keep us on our toes. Ha-Ha
 It would be interesting if anyone *knows* of anyone who is allergic to
silver. Since I don`t have any personal knowledge,of anyone being
allergic to silver, it doesn`t stick in my mind, so didn`t mention it.
 So if anyone has first hand knowledge of it I really would like to
know. No third party or forth hand stuff.

  Bless you   Bob   Lee

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Ed McCabe

1998-09-03 Thread Robert L. Wells
Bill Galkowski wrote asking for help with Mr. McCabe's phone bills.
I don't know who Ed McCabe is.  Is he in jail?  However, I have a couple
of suggestions for you.
First, avoid collect calls!  You can usually refuse them and then call
him back.  That should save a lot of money.
Second, you can get a personal 1-800 number from MCI that will charge
you only about 10 cents per minute on domestic calls to your home
number.  The number can be unlisted so only those people you want to
give it to will have it.
Third, make sure that your long distance service is giving you good
international rates.  For example, Voicenet (1-800-500-9028), a calling
card service, charges only 27 cents per minute to the UK.  They charge
an additional flat 35 cents (not per minute)  if the call originates
from a payphone (it's a charge mandated by the FCC to compensate the
payphone company).  You may be able to do better than than that on
international charges with MCI or Sprint.
Fourth, if you trust Mr. McCabe not to run up the bill, you can get him
a calling card.  Voicenet charges 17.5 cents per minute on domestic
calls (again with the 35 cent flat fee for originating from a pay
phone).  If you let him make his calls direct, you save by not paying
for  two calls at the same time.
Fifth, consider getting conference calling capabilities on your phone
that allow you to connect two incoming calls so that Mr. McCabe's
friends can call you at the same time as Mr. McCabe does, thereby
shifting the burden of the international calls to them.
I obviously don't know or understand the situation.  However, as
difficult as it may be, if Mr. McCabe cannot pay for his own calls, he
should be very considerate of your plight and cut his calling way back.
Calling his fiance in the UK and a friend in New Zealand at your
expense, particularly several times per week  is really stretching a
friendship.

Bob Wells


Oklahoman (http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/shart?ID=213891TP=getarticle)

1998-09-03 Thread tj garland



Watch Clinton Shut Down Government
09/01/1998
Paul M. Weyrich


Bill Clinton isn't worried, even though he knows that right now most
Americans are all tied up about his lack of contrition and the disaster of a
speech he gave only a few short weeks ago. The president knows that the
Democrats on Capitol Hill have distanced themselves from him, but he doesn't
care. He also knows the public memory is short, and that the elections are
coming up. He is even unfazed that right now conservatives are much more
motivated to vote than liberals. If things continued down this road, he
could really be a lame duck during his last two years in office.
But Clinton has a plan that will re-energize his base. It will take
their minds off of Monica and Ken Starr, no matter what his report to
Congress says. No, it isn't to keep bombing terrorist sites around the
world. That worked temporarily, but it is a ploy that can't be overused.
Instead, his plan is to shut down the government.

One Capitol Hill veteran calls it the most cynical manipulation I
have ever seen. That same veteran, however, believes Clinton's plan will
work.

You watch, says this chief of staff for a member of the Senate
leadership, in the few weeks before the election, the whole country won't
be talking about the special prospector, they will be worrying about whether
or not their mother's Social Security check will arrive on time.

At issue is the budget agreement that has spending caps, which are
now producing a record surplus when Social Security spending is included,
but which are close to producing a surplus even if Social Security is taken
off budget.

Clinton wants the caps broken and wants to greatly increase spending
to pay off his base, while the Republicans, for the most part, think the
spending caps are working and would like to keep them in place. A few key
Republicans are willing to throw Clinton a bone in the form of an extra $10
billion in presidential spending. Some of these leaders think a similar
inducement saved the GOP- controlled House in 1996.

Regardless, Clinton is in no mood to accept any bribes right now. He
needs a genuine crisis to divert America's attention from his problems. A
government shut down will do it. A shutdown affects all parts of the
country, and affects lots of jobs -- not to mention that the media will lap
it up. Republicans, who now feel strangely emboldened by Clinton's troubles,
all of a sudden will be on the defensive again.

Clinton has already signaled what he intends to do. He intends to
veto any bill that will continue government funding at current levels while
Congress and the White House work out their differences on the
appropriations bills.

If Congress gives in to this threat, the spending caps are gone.
Washington would then again be awash in red ink and Clinton could blame the
Republicans for it. If Congress doesn't back down, then Clinton will shut
down the government and blame the Republicans.

It worked before, and if there is one thing that is predictable
about Clinton, it is that if something works for him, he tries it again.
Even Monica knows that.

Last time, thanks to Newt Gingrich's temporary political blindness,
the Republicans didn't see what Clinton was up to. That is why they got so
badly burned in the fall of 1995. This time, they do see this train wreck
coming, but they aren't sure what to do about it.

Let's make a suggestion, and shout the news of this oncoming
shutdown from the rooftops. Say it every time one turns around. Republicans
must frame the issue and seize the moral high ground.

The same advice was given to the Reagan camp in 1980, when they were
told to predict an October Surprise on the part of Jimmy Carter. There was
ample evidence he was going to try to engineer one to put Reagan on the
defensive and win re-election. The Reagan people said it over and over
again. Whatever Carter's plans, they couldn't be carried out. The rest is
history.

In the case of Clinton, he has no choice but to go forward. He has
no other plan that will work. The question is whether the Congress is going
to again operate in Clinton's framework, or if they will force Clinton to
operate in their framework. If they let the country know that this plan is
in the works, and they say it again and again for the next month, by the
time Clinton acts on it -- and act on it he will -- the country will be on
to this blackmail and it won't work.

Republican National Chairman Jim Nicholson has it right. As if I
had to remind you, Bill Clinton did this to us once before. We can't let him
do it again. This time, if Bill Clinton goes through with his selfish,
reckless scheme to shut down the government, our singular priority ... is to
make sure that the American people know whose fingerprints are really on the
gun -- and they aren't ours.

It is not a moment too soon to