Re: CSupdate - my asthma
if you have not hit S.P. yet (saturation point) then up the dose! you have to find out what your bowel tolerance is. buy a kilo. i would recommend stockpiling some. my record for a one 8 hour shift at work is 227 grams... that is 8ounces... and i never hit S.P... although i could tell i was getting close. my fever was kept at a comfortable level, enough so that i could work without major discomfort and still perform well (only one to run a health food store that day) -Original Message- From: deat...@aol.com deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: CSupdate - my asthma Gang: just by chance I ran into Brian McInturf at a local health food store this weekend; told him about my plight (which is better BTW - I took 40,000 mg of Vit C Sat/30,000 on Sun - it is helping - still not to the diarrhea stage though - not even close) and Brian said that resistant lung infections can be round worms - again back to zapping hulda clark methods - h - just food for thought jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSever heard of Juniper Tar
tar? -Original Message- From: deat...@aol.com deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 4:20 PM Subject: CSever heard of Juniper Tar Gang: anyone ever heard of this? my grandmother gave it to me as a child? I did a search and found info on it, but it had MSD's attached to it - I ordered some thru a pharmacy last year - can I safely take it? anyone know anything? thanks, Jeannine p.s. would really kick my asthma in the head if safe to take -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
CSRe: Pets and CS
.Hi, Question concerning using CS with pets. I presently have a total of 20 cats in my home. 13 are my own plus I have 7 foster cats for Friends of Animals. With this many under one roof, when one comes down with something, it can spread quite quickly from one to the other. With new cats coming in all the time, you never really know what can show up even with vet checks and safety procautions. Is it safe to give them CS daily in their drinking water? I have bowls of water down so that it is available to them at any time - thus, there is no way to really gauge how much intake each one is getting. Though, with it diluted in their water, I kind of doubt that they'd really be taking in too much. I have tried it with them for two weeks now and believe it or not, I have not seen any hairballs being chucked up. Plus, my one cat seems to be more perky and less crabby. Maybe that's my imagination, but Ido know for sure that I've been hairball free for a few days. One other concern I had with them taking CS daily is the breakdown of good bacteria in their digestive system. Any ideas? I'm hoping I can continue as I have two cats that have eye infections that the vet says will be with them for life. I have an antibiotic salve I have to put in when it flairs up. CS gives me a lot of hope that it will clear up/help many things that aflict cats. Appreciate any feedback and experiences of others with pets and CS. Also - can Olive Leaf Extract be used with pets? Thanks much. Barb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
i would be much more concerned with getting magnesium into people. the USA has one of the highest per capita calcium intakes, and likewise, one of the highest osteoporosis rates. magnesium on the other hand has been systematically denied its rightful place. according to the experts on magnesium, and i am not speaking of health food nuts, but academicians, ... the usa suffers anywhere from 200,000 to 800,000 deaths from magnesium deficiency annually, just in the way of heart attacks alone (the experts range from 200k to 800k none i read below 200k).. it is estimated that the magnesium deficiency creates a $50 billion revenue source for the cardiac industry.calcium channel blocker sales are in the neighborhood of $5billion and magnesium is nature's best calcium channel blocker... magnesium is a necessity for 3/4's of all enzymes in our body.vital for ATP..., red blood cell formation, prevention of insulin resistance prevention of calcium precipitation in the soft tissue (kidney stones, bone spurs, hardening of the arteries,) the importance of magnesium can not be over emphasized... a true conspiracy.. (records of the AMA's involvement in suppressing Magnesium is available in court house records and the AMA's own archives) jd -Original Message- From: mardic...@aol.com mardic...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk In a message dated 12/13/99 8:38:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, sear...@prodigy.net writes: cows milk is good for cows not people. very interesting. i've been learning more and more about this. not wanting to ingest SOY, i've been ordering rice dream (a brown rice drink) to use as a substitute for milk...butif you have any info on what healthy ways (food, drinks) to get calcium into finicky toddlers, i'd surely appreciate it!! i tried the broccoli is a yummy little tree trick and it didn't get me anywhere, LOL. diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSnebulizer - no
i second that offer... i would love to have a nebulizer i wish someone would develop kits for the electrically illiterate... jd -Original Message- From: deat...@aol.com deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:28 PM Subject: CSnebulizer - no Chuck: no I didn't try the nebulizer - i know you techies find this hard to believe but even with instructions as detailed as you guys give . . .. i'm afraid I hate directions and I am electronically challenged!! Vit C I can handle; GSE in pure form I can handle . .. building a nebulizer - no way . . . BUT I would be willing to send someone on the list $$ to build me one. yes McInturf is a neat guy - will help anyone he possibly can. . .. thanks, jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSCures for Blepharaspasm and Distonia
sounz like a real case for GHB magnesium... magnesium is a smooth muscle relaxer... ghb is also a powerful relaxant... one of the best products if prudently used. jd -Original Message- From: fernwo...@aol.com fernwo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:32 PM Subject: CSCures for Blepharaspasm and Distonia I met a wonderful woman who has Blepharaspasm which leads to blindness because the eyelids won't stay open. She is being treated with monthly botulism injections around her eyes which temporarily keep the eyelids from closing. She also has Distonia. And on top of this, her husband has Fibromyalgia . Does anyone know if CS, the zapper, olive leaf extract or anything else is effective for these problems. Thanks for any help you can provide! Karen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSnebulizer - no
There you go! Someone might could make a few dollars making us nebulizers! Count me in for one :o) -Original Message- From: Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America jdkl...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 12:40 AM Subject: Re: CSnebulizer - no i second that offer... i would love to have a nebulizer i wish someone would develop kits for the electrically illiterate... jd -Original Message- From: deat...@aol.com deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:28 PM Subject: CSnebulizer - no Chuck: no I didn't try the nebulizer - i know you techies find this hard to believe but even with instructions as detailed as you guys give . . .. i'm afraid I hate directions and I am electronically challenged!! Vit C I can handle; GSE in pure form I can handle . .. building a nebulizer - no way . . . BUT I would be willing to send someone on the list $$ to build me one. yes McInturf is a neat guy - will help anyone he possibly can. . .. thanks, jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSRe: LED's
Andy, I'm sure no expert on particle size. Brooks said he had several CS batches (all made using different methods) tested and they all had about the same size silver particles. Others say that you must use cold water and very low current (1mA) for small particles. I think that we need Brooks to elaborate on his findings. Did the size possibly increase days later? Bil - Original Message - From: ascottx...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; x2...@qnet.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 6:47 PM Subject: CSRe: LED's Hi Bil, I picked up some 15K resistors at Radio Shack today. I thought I would just solder 2 of them in series. I'll have to dig through some old data books and look for an active current limit circuit to use in the future. Any thoughts on optimal current limit for small particle size? I don't think the current limiter on my power supply will go down to micro amps and that's where I'll probably end up. Andy Hi Andy, To limit the current to 1mA when using 30VDC use a 27k resistor. Of course this will not give you 1mA from the start. For that you will need a current regulator circuit. With this resistor the current will gradually build up to 1mA just as it normally builds up to 5mA, then 10 etc. The LED is really only needed for people that are not using an ammeter. Bil - Original Message - From: ascottx...@aol.com To: x2...@qnet.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: Re: LED's Hi Bil, I was thinking I would want to limit the current to 1 ma max. I don't know what good an LED would be for that? I was thinking of something more along the lines of a 300K ohm resistor in series with 30 volts. It would most certainly take a lot longer but might guarantee minimal particle size. What do you think? Andy In a message dated 12/12/1999 8:10:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, x2...@qnet.com writes: If you look in a good parts catalog you will find that almost every LED avail. does not contain a resistor, etc. And there are many dozens to choose from. If you have a current limit resistor in series with an LED you can see at a glance roughly how much current is flowing. You may want to choose one of the ultrabright LED's. Radio Shack only stocks a tiny fraction of what you will find in a good mail order catalog such as Mouser Electronics. They are by far the best source that I have ever seen for variety, low cost and great service. - Original Message - From: ascottx...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:13 PM Subject: Re: CSIntro and questions A lot of the LEDs on the market now have built in current limit, flashers, etc. It seems to make more sense to me to use a current limiting resistor in series rather than a light bulb or an LED though. Any thoughts on this? Andy In a message dated 12/11/1999 8:02:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, x2...@qnet.com writes: All single LED's have a voltage rating of approx. 2 volts DC (not 5 or 14V!). The max. current rating for most LED's is around 20mA. They will light up (not too brightly) at 1mA or less and gradually increase reaching full brightness as you approach 10mA. O.K. to use in series with ANY low voltage DC circuit (up to 20mA). Best to use a current limiting resistor. Otherwise the LED will burn out right quick when the silver wires touch (or get shorted by the silver growth on the cathode). Won't happen if you limit current. Bil - Original Message - From: GB Rogers bi...@qed.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:41 AM Subject: CSIntro and questions Hello listers from a newbie, I bought a CS generator and after seeing how simple it is, have tried my hand at making some, hopefully to give to family for holiday gifts. The version I am using is the one that comes from the Beck papers. My only difficulty is getting a 24 grain of wheat bulb. I substituted a 14 v. green LED bulb on the first one I made, (as a similar LED bulb was used on the generator I purchased - although it uses only a 9 v. battery) but it was quite difficult to see if the bulb was even lighting up. The flow through the silver wire electrode was somewhat slow, I thought it would work faster with the 27 voltage of batteries soldered in series than the 9v powered purchased machine, but it didn't. My second version used a red 5v LED with integrated resistor, but when I tested it, within seconds the water became cloudy.
Re: CSRe: LED's
Hi Gene, Mouser Electronics is at: www.mouser.com Bil - Original Message - From: gd...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 5:43 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: LED's In a message dated 12/12/99 10:11:02 PM Central Standard Time, x2...@qnet.com writes: Radio Shack only stocks a tiny fraction of what you will find in a good mail order catalog such as Mouser Electronics. They are by far the best source that I have ever seen for variety, low cost and great service. Is there a site for this company or what is the address of same? Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
Has anyone used CS or heard of anything else to cure Macular Degeneration and also restore the damaged retina? I have a condition similar to MD. A few years ago I developed an occlusion of the central retinal vein (in other words a blood clot in the main vein leaving the eye) in my left eye. This seems to have occured days after bumping my head very hard on a sliding glass door. UCLA opthomologists said that there is no treatment and that the condition would probably clear up and that my vision would be restored. Well it just got worse, maybe because I live at 8,000 ft. I can still see about the same as a few years ago (very poorly - cannot see the letters on the eyechart). Any advice on how to fix the retina (macular section badly damaged) would be very much appreciated. Bil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSnebulizer - no
Hello all, You can buy nebulisers from medical supply outlets, but I believe in the US you need to say they are for experimental use. I use an air brush as per Brooks' protocol, usually with bottled oxygen (which I have on hand). But occasionally I have needed to use it where the bottle is impracticable, and have been using the aquarium air pump that I use to generate ozone. The pump I have is barely adequate at 4 litres per minute (50 gallons per hour?) and 3 psi. I would like to double that. I found that the 6 mm silicon hose from the pump outlet is a push fit over the air brush inlet and no further modification was required. This is a very cost effective 'nebuliser' that anyone should be able to assemble... Ivan. - Original Message - From: Cindy Powell suns...@networld.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 20:45 Subject: Re: CSnebulizer - no There you go! Someone might could make a few dollars making us nebulizers! Count me in for one :o) -Original Message- From: Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America jdkl...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 12:40 AM Subject: Re: CSnebulizer - no i second that offer... i would love to have a nebulizer i wish someone would develop kits for the electrically illiterate... jd -Original Message- From: deat...@aol.com deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:28 PM Subject: CSnebulizer - no Chuck: no I didn't try the nebulizer - i know you techies find this hard to believe but even with instructions as detailed as you guys give . . .. i'm afraid I hate directions and I am electronically challenged!! Vit C I can handle; GSE in pure form I can handle . .. building a nebulizer - no way . . . BUT I would be willing to send someone on the list $$ to build me one. yes McInturf is a neat guy - will help anyone he possibly can. . .. thanks, jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
Hi Bil, I have not heard of CS having any results in this area. I suggest enzyme therapy would be useful in your case in clearing the blood clot. http://www.mucos.de/uk/wiss/gefaesserkrankungen.htm Vinpocetine may also be of use. (see earlier post 10th Dec.) http://lef.org/prod_hp/abstracts/vinpocetine.html#7 Also see Brooks Bradley's post : CSOT: Serendipitous Macular Degeneration Adjunctive Protocol - 9th Dec. regarding good results with the administration human growth hormone (HGH) precursors. Further macular degeneration links: http://www.royalrife.com/macular.html http://www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt/reg/maladies/cataract.txt Good luck Ivan. - Original Message - From: 2001 TV VCR x2...@qnet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 22:25 Subject: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina) Has anyone used CS or heard of anything else to cure Macular Degeneration and also restore the damaged retina? I have a condition similar to MD. A few years ago I developed an occlusion of the central retinal vein (in other words a blood clot in the main vein leaving the eye) in my left eye. This seems to have occured days after bumping my head very hard on a sliding glass door. UCLA opthomologists said that there is no treatment and that the condition would probably clear up and that my vision would be restored. Well it just got worse, maybe because I live at 8,000 ft. I can still see about the same as a few years ago (very poorly - cannot see the letters on the eyechart). Any advice on how to fix the retina (macular section badly damaged) would be very much appreciated. Bil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk
In a message dated 12/13/99 8:04:00 PM Central Standard Time, mardic...@aol.com writes: very interesting. i've been learning more and more about this. not wanting to ingest SOY, i've been ordering rice dream (a brown rice drink) to use as a substitute for milk...butif you have any info on what healthy ways (food, drinks) to get calcium into finicky toddlers, i'd surely appreciate it!! i tried the broccoli is a yummy little tree trick and it didn't get me anywhere, LOL. diane Diane, There is a product put out ny Sonnes called calphonite. It is a blanced calcium-phosphorus liquid supplement with magnesium and manganese. Is reportedly one of the most assimilable types. Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
In a message dated 12/14/99 1:21:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, jdkl...@netzero.net writes: the importance of magnesium can not be over emphasized... Yup..this is great info also. (I love this list!!) This prompts me to remember a cassette tape a neighbor of ours let us borrow. It was called Dead Doctors Don't Lie. It was all about the magnesium deficiency of most people. There was more info, too. He also promotes sodium intake, but for ME, I know that does not work. The tape has a lot of information and I'm straining to recall the man's name who made it. Argh!! Joel??? I am pretty sure there is info on the web about this...perhaps someone else on this list already knows. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk
In a message dated 12/14/99 6:48:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, ejohns9...@aol.com writes: Diane, There is a product put out ny Sonnes called calphonite. It is a blanced calcium-phosphorus liquid supplement with magnesium and manganese. Is reportedly one of the most assimilable types. Edith Ah, that was my next point. Another helpful poster mentioned the orange juice w/calcium. However, I just question the bio-availability of various types of calcium. Having had kidney stones, calcium and related minerals are of high interest! Don't want to make those a habit! OUCH. =-) Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSWas Milk/Nellie...Sonnes
99% Our Company Philosophies and Selling Points - Sonne's Organic Foods, Inc. Pronounced So-nay' .. meaning sun The Original and Still The Best The First In Colon Cleansing Products Company Philosophies and Selling Points For over 50 years we have owned and operated our own production facilities and have quality.. http://www.sonnes.com/philosophy.htm Wow Thanks again, Edith.that was so easy!! How many times can we do a websearch and get only ONE accurate response Is that a sign? LOL Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Colloidal Silver : response to questions
Jim W [Rife-List, 08 December 1999] asked: What kind of risk is in overdosing on colloidal silver??? fhlew wrote: The only medical condition I am aware of is argyria, a bluish-grey discolouration of the skin on ingestion of silver compounds by a small percentage of the idiosyncratic population . Ionic silver or metallic silver in distilled water is not known to date to precipitate this condition. Listers from the Silver-List will tell you anecdotally that they have been gulping down Colloidal Silver for umpteen years without adverse complaints. I do not add any salt or substance to the home distilled water which I use for the generation of Colloidal Silver. I am more liberal with simple cases of respiratory tract infections . But I will be very careful with chronic patients presenting with complications of Liver,Heart, Kidneys. The patient may need more than just Colloidal Silver for his or her management. The patient may require institutional treatment. Simple laboratory tests for blood,urine and excretions with radiological and ultrasound backup often help in screening patients from iatrogenic risks. With regards Lew jwtra...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/30/1999 8:10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, fh...@tm.net.my writes: In my practice,I have been using Colloidal Silver very freely. I have good results with the old and the young for infections particularly related to the respiratory tract. The simple Colloidal Silver Generators, I purchased from the US, What kind of risk is in overdosing on Collodial silver ??? Thanks for any info. Jim W. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #854
Can anyone give me some help on low blood sugar. In the AM levels are 63 to 73 an hour after breakfast. Thanks, Teal -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:53 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V99 #854 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
what's briam macinturfs website? does he have a list? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSA few more thoughts/questions
Hello again CS listers, I read the www.elixa.com/silver/ site info with great interest, and have been also benefiting from the experience and knowledge that you all have shared. Both Bob Beck's papers (www.rarebooks.com is the site I downloaded the info from) and my purchased CS generator instructions talk about putting the electrodes directly into liquid food substances, such as beverages and soups to kill the bacteria and viruses, as well as using purified water for external applications. Lindemann's article at the elixa site also mentions how a pool that was dumped with sewage was cleared of ecoli when silver electrodes were placed in it. 1) From your experience, how effective is this direct placement method? From what I've read from the elixa site, however, it seems to indicate that a non-distilled water/liquid is more likely to produce too large particles which can be both toxic and/or non-effective. 2) Also, Beck's site recommends using CS for laundry and household disinfection. For such applications, (such as laundry) making CS to fill a washing machine is totally impractical. Would making a concentrated, high ppm CS then diluting it in the wash water be effective? 3) In general situations, which would be the preferred method - direct placement of the electrodes into liquids other than distilled H20 or adding a concentrated high ppm CS to non-distilled H20/liquids? 4) Any ideas for practical useage both for travelling (where water source is questionable) or for household disinfection would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Beth -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSVIT C - the tolerance is?
Gang, Wow - I had to get to 40,000 mg per day to get to the diarrhea stage - I would have never imagined that I was that deficient .. .others might want to try taking some . . . I take alot of supplements and for me to be this deficient is astounding. Furthermore it seems to be giving me a helluva detox . . . I'm starting to feel great - per the Robert Cathcart site that Mr. Mitchell sent me to. Later, (back to the bathroom) jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGrapeFRUIT seed extract
Don't know about GSE, but we were putting up water for y2k yesterday and adding 1 oz of 5 ppm CS per gallon. One can also use hydrogen peroxide or bleach (uggg.). Marshall Vilik Rapheles wrote: Speaking of GSE, how many drops would it take to sterilize a gallon of water? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSstomach flu
Does CS help with stomach flu, I have had some killer stomach flu the past several days that is really going around here. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
The tape has a lot of information and I'm straining to recall the man's name who made it. Argh!! Joel??? Joel Wallach Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Pets and CS
bli...@aol.com wrote: .Hi, Question concerning using CS with pets. I presently have a total of 20 cats in my home. 13 are my own plus I have 7 foster cats for Friends of Animals. With this many under one roof, when one comes down with something, it can spread quite quickly from one to the other. With new cats coming in all the time, you never really know what can show up even with vet checks and safety procautions. Is it safe to give them CS daily in their drinking water? We do. About an ounce per quart or so of 5 ppm doesn't cause our cat any problems. I have bowls of water down so that it is available to them at any time - thus, there is no way to really gauge how much intake each one is getting. That is good. Basically since the silver simple follows the water, they always have a specific ppb in their blood stream. For instance if you use one oz per quart of 5 ppm silver then the water will have about 5/33 ppm or 150 ppb of silver, and after a period of time the blood will have approximately 150 ppb of silver as well. This is much easier than weighing the cat then figuring out how much to give depending on the weight several times a day. Plus those that drink more water, need more CS since they flush it out of their body quicker. By adding it to the water, it all comes our automatically without having to concern yourself with their weight, and drinking habits. Also it keeps the water bowl free of bacteria and algae. Though, with it diluted in their water, I kind of doubt that they'd really be taking in too much. I have tried it with them for two weeks now and believe it or not, I have not seen any hairballs being chucked up. Plus, my one cat seems to be more perky and less crabby. Maybe that's my imagination, but Ido know for sure that I've been hairball free for a few days. That is interesting, I wonder what the connection would be with that. Maybe bacteria are forming a glue that is making the hair clump together. One other concern I had with them taking CS daily is the breakdown of good bacteria in their digestive system. Any ideas? This is a matter of quantity. Since silver does not have significant mobility in the intestines it's effectivess is greatly reduced. Also most of the silver will already be absorbed into the blood stream before reaching the intestines. If there seems to be a problem, cut back. My family has been taking 1 oz. per 100 pounds per day for over a year with no intestinal problems. I'm hoping I can continue as I have two cats that have eye infections that the vet says will be with them for life. I have an antibiotic salve I have to put in when it flairs up. CS gives me a lot of hope that it will clear up/help many things that aflict cats. CS normally works great on eye infections. Irrigate directly with 5 to 20 ppm CS. Appreciate any feedback and experiences of others with pets and CS. Also - can Olive Leaf Extract be used with pets? Sorry, know nothing of that. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSBlood sugar
Can anyone give me some help on low blood sugar. In the AM levels are 63 to 73 an hour after breakfast. Thanks, Teal Dear Teal, That IS low!!! I read that it helps to eat something high protein just before you go to bed, such as cheese, and that helps keep the sugar level up until morning. Hope this helps! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Pets and CS
would IV cs pass the blood\brain barrier? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSstomach flu
It is fantastic. Our family has had 100% success in getting rid of the flu in 2 hours or less with CS. Marshall Mary wrote: Does CS help with stomach flu, I have had some killer stomach flu the past several days that is really going around here. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Pets and CS
There is disagreement on whether or not CS will pass the BBB. I don't see how giving by IV would make a difference. But be sure if IV is given the proper salinity is used. Marshall D G wrote: would IV cs pass the blood\brain barrier? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSWas Milk/Nellie...Sonnes
In a message dated 12/14/99 6:53:37 AM Central Standard Time, mardic...@aol.com writes: 99% Our Company Philosophies and Selling Points - Sonne's Organic Foods, Inc. Pronounced So-nay' .. meaning sun The Original and Still The Best The First In Colon Cleansing Products Company Philosophies and Selling Points For over 50 years we have owned and operated our own production facilities and have quality.. http://www.sonnes.com/philosophy.htm Wow Thanks again, Edith.that was so easy!! How many times can we do a websearch and get only ONE accurate response Is that a sign? LOL Diane I use their calcium and bentonite. Right now am doing a cleanse with the liquid bentonite and psyllium husk powder. It is so much better than the dry kind that looks and takes like dirt and is not constipating as the other tends to be for me. Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:45:37 EST, mardic...@aol.com wrote: This prompts me to remember a cassette tape a neighbor of ours let us borrow. It was called Dead Doctors Don't Lie. It was all about the magnesium deficiency of most people. There was more info, too. He also promotes sodium intake, but for ME, I know that does not work. The tape has a lot of information and I'm straining to recall the man's name who made it. Argh!! Joel??? Ha! Joel Wallach! Got a copy right here, didn't even have to get up. Chuck The most dangerous thing in a combat zone is an officer with a map -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:25:28 -0800, 2001 TV VCR x2...@qnet.com wrote: Has anyone used CS or heard of anything else to cure Macular Degeneration and also restore the damaged retina? I have no idea if this would help or not (your decision). I've been using MSM drops in my eyes to increase garbage removal. Floaters have decreased significantly. My opthamologist was happy at my last examination. Now I've started using a concoction of distilled water, MSM, eyebright tincture, and CS, all mixed together as a eyewash. Seems to be improving (only been 4 days). Chuck Is the glass half empty, half full, or twice as large as it needs to be? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:04:33 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: what's briam macinturfs website? does he have a list? Dennis Dennis, Go to http://turf.home.mindspring.com/ Chuck High Voltage Electronics--life's a glitch, and then you fry -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
At 21:54 14-12-1999 , you wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:25:28 -0800, 2001 TV VCR x2...@qnet.com wrote: Has anyone used CS or heard of anything else to cure Macular Degeneration and also restore the damaged retina? I have no idea if this would help or not (your decision). I've been using MSM drops in my eyes to increase garbage removal. Floaters have decreased significantly. My opthamologist was happy at my last examination. Now I've started using a concoction of distilled water, MSM, eyebright i bought MSM as crystals and they don't seem to dissolve in water am I doing something wrong? or is it the wrong type? thx mt tincture, and CS, all mixed together as a eyewash. Seems to be improving (only been 4 days). Chuck Is the glass half empty, half full, or twice as large as it needs to be? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
i,disagree chuck... its a brand new 2nd leiutenant Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk magnesium
In a message dated 12/14/99 3:51:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: Ha! Joel Wallach! Got a copy right here, didn't even have to get up. Chuck Hahahaathat's great!! This list is just the best!! What bunch! Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #854
In a message dated 12/14/1999 6:40:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, t...@whitevillenc.net writes: Can anyone give me some help on low blood sugar. In the AM levels are 63 to 73 an hour after breakfast. I was told to eat a protein snack at bedtime to help prevent morning low blood sugar. It does seem to help me. Nellie Christ, my all -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe:Sharon/candida
Hey Sharon -- that was a typo -- it's a stool test!! and yes, I've tested twice now with no candida - but many blastocystis always. If I were you I would definitely get checked for parasites -- many people with Candida also have Blastocystis. Katarina Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:35:38 -0500 From: Sharon L. House sho...@up.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Sharon/candida Message-Id: l03130304b4743262b...@[208.16.244.238] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Katarina, I'm not familiar with the stoll test. Could you please explain what this is? If you've had parasites confirmed with a test then who can argue with that, but if it was just the symptoms you mentioned, they can all be accounted for by the presence of candida. Did you also have a test that confirmed you no longer have candida? Please excuse the questions, but I'm not certain in my case whether my load of symptoms is mainly caused by candida or parasites. I had a fish tapeworm 25 years ago and thought I killed it off but I hear if you fail to get the head, it can reappear. I often wonder if that's not my problem today. Thanks, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #854
Nellie, If you're hypoglycemic, you should be on a low- to no-carb, high-protein, high-fat diet, such as the Atkins diet. Otherwise, you are well on your way to serious health trouble. Hypoglycemia is just another form of diabetes, a polar opposite. Read his books, and save your health. Sam Can anyone give me some help on low blood sugar. In the AM levels are 63 to 73 an hour after breakfast. I was told to eat a protein snack at bedtime to help prevent morning low blood sugar. It does seem to help me. Nellie Christ, my all -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: High PPm question/ silver proteins
Hi Fred and others -- this is getting me concerned about the Cs which I use for my sinuses. It's made by Innovative Natural Products and says it's pure electrocolloidal and says it is 500ppm -- I'm sure it's less than that - but it's much more effective than my homemade for my sinuses -- probably because it is much easier to get more of it up there with a stronger solution -- if I wanted to get the same amount of my homemade up into my sinuses I'd have to find a way to soak them rather than spray. So is it impossible to make pure CS at high PPm's, like 50 or 60 which is probably what this really is? If so -- I maybe better stop using it -- but I hate to because it works so well. Help!!! Katarina (on the way out but still asking questions! If anyone answers this -- could you email to me directly as well. Thanks.) Terence, I would say you are not taking colloidal silver but possibly silver protein, which is the only way to get over 30-40 PPM. DC produced Cs is difficult to make at over 20PPM due to crystallization and users inform me HVAC can not produce over 40PPM. Now, if you want to get technical, PPM is by weight so it could be a few lumps of silver in a bottle but then it would still be mis-labeled as that is not a colloid! It could be a solution of silver salts (not colloid) as then you could get many 100's of PPM. It could also be just mislabelled and why the FDA keeps bothering us! The problem I see with very strong (concentrated) medicines is the chance of mis-use or overdose! Do you take 1/30 the dose others use? More is not often better and a homeopath will say less is better! Treating your gut with an antibiotic should be for a short term, as you also kill off you natural flora. I would not trust 150PPM and suggest you try a more normal silver colloid and just take more of it. We test free, as do others, if you want to check the TDS but only a lab test can tell you what is in it! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Carmen/good luck
Hey Carmen, I'll be thinking of yo on the 16th. Hope it goes well. Katarina Hi, folks, I have been trying a few remedies, but I am sheduled to go into Hospital, next Thursday the l6th for the operation. I have been taking the remedy from Hulda Clarkes recipy, drink Epsom Salts, throughout the day and then Olive Oil and Lemon Juice at night proceeding with Apple Juice, but it is nearly impossible to get a bed in Hospital here in Australia, so I think I have to go with it. Thanks for all your wishes, and suggestions. Carmen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: cade oil
Marshall: yep those are some of the sites I found too - the question is - would it be safe to ingest? The reason why - as a child (way to young to remember what the bottle looked like my grandmother is dead) my grandmother would give us juniper tar aka Cade Oil for colds - chest colds especially - would kick it in the head - WOW - overnight - tasted like S$%T - but boy did it work. So from those sites you listed - do you think a teaspoon on sugar (the way she used to give it to me) would kill me? Sure would like to try - apparently I am allergic to something in my condo and I obviously can't move . . . thanks in advance, jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: cade oil
Gee, I don't know. I would personally be a little afraid of ingesting anything which is basically a tar product. Lots of nasty stuff in it usually, which may be great for killing pathogens topically, but internally is another matter. I would want to find a reference that indicates usage internally first, and I have not seen that. Marshall deat...@aol.com wrote: Marshall: yep those are some of the sites I found too - the question is - would it be safe to ingest? The reason why - as a child (way to young to remember what the bottle looked like my grandmother is dead) my grandmother would give us juniper tar aka Cade Oil for colds - chest colds especially - would kick it in the head - WOW - overnight - tasted like S$%T - but boy did it work. So from those sites you listed - do you think a teaspoon on sugar (the way she used to give it to me) would kill me? Sure would like to try - apparently I am allergic to something in my condo and I obviously can't move . . . thanks in advance, jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLONG: Some Notes and a Few Questions on CS
December 14, 1999 Hello Ivan, Thank you for responding to my post, and for the very nice compliments. I don't think I was very clear in some areas, and would like to explore these issues in more detail. I will focus on the key areas I am having trouble with. Please don't feel I am being argumentative or disrespectful - that is not my intent. I recognize you have been doing this for many years, and I am just a beginner with a lot of questions. I very much appreciate your counsel. But if my observations and conclusions are correct, they may be of interest to others who are taking colloidal silver. I will start in the middle of the original post: Peter recommends against using salt to speed up the process. He states this produces silver chloride, which is undesirable. In fact, I test for silver ions by pouring an inch of liquid into a small glass and adding a few grains of salt. In a few minutes, a beautiful pale blue/white dispersion forms. When I put the glass in direct sunlight, the color changes from pale blue to a pale gray. When I repeat the same tests using plain distilled water, there is no change. Here are the relevant equations: From the dissociation of salt in water: NaCl(s) + H2O --- Na(+)(aq) + Cl(-)(aq) A silver ion reacts with a chlorine ion to form silver chloride: Ag(+)(aq) + Cl(-)(aq) --- AgCl(s) The silver chloride is insoluble in water and precipitates out as a white solid. AgCl is soluble to a small concentration. Silver chloride turns black when exposed to light: 2Ag(+)Cl(-) + light --- 2Ag + Cl[2](g) So, I conclude the salt test shows the presence of silver ions. I think adding ammonia would dissolve the silver chloride, but I haven't tried that experiment yet. But everyone seems to agree using salt to make colloidal silver is a bad idea - it makes silver chloride. But nobody takes the next step to balance the chemical equation. What happens to the sodium ion? The equation for adding metallic sodium to water is: 2 Na(s) + 2 H2O --- 2 NaOH(aq) + H2(g) As far as I can determine, the displaced sodium ion reacts with water to form sodium hydroxide. The sodium is already oxidised, and further oxidation requires more energy. It may combine with the extremely small number hydroxile ions in water. Apart from that it remains a spectator ion. This disturbs me, since sodium is such a reactive ion. Since water is continually in the process of dissociation, it would seem a sodium ion would have no problem picking up a hydroxyl ion to form sodium hydroxide. I searched the web for a way to test for sodium hydroxide in a solution. The test had to be simple, inexpensive, reproducible, foolproof, and unambiguous. There is such a test. If aluminum is placed in a solution containing sodium hydroxide, the sodium hydroxide dissolves the aluminum oxide that protects the bare aluminum. Water then acts as an acid that eats the unprotected aluminum. There is a very nice description with dramatic photos at http://pciii-2.chemie.uni-siegen.de/pci/versuche/english/v44-10.html It was not clear if this reaction would still occur with the weak solution of sodium hydroxide I expected, but I decided to give it a try. I poured about an inch of colloidal silver into a glass and added salt. The familiar pale blue/white silver chloride precipitate appeared. I then added a small piece of aluminum foil, about 1/4 square. I made a control by adding the same amount of salt to another glass containing an inch of plain distilled water, and added another piece of aluminum foil 1/4 square. The next day, I removed the pieces of aluminum foil and placed them side-by-side on the table. The difference was dramatic. The aluminum foil from the colloidal silver solution was quite dull. The piece from the distilled water glass kept it's original brilliance. I checked again later in the day, and the foil from the silver colloid solution looked worse. It continued to degrade. I concluded there was sodium hydroxide in the glass containing the silver colloid. Now, I realize this doesn't create the kind of smoke and flames that make a powerful demonstration, but to me the result is clear. If silver ions enter our bloodstream, they immediately come in contact with the salt in our blood, and convert to silver chloride. The sodium ion that is released produces sodium hydroxide, a very dangerous chemical. From the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health Safety (CCOHS), in the Health Effects of Sodium Hydroxide, at http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/chem_profiles/sodium_hydroxide/health_sod.html What happens when sodium hydroxide solutions comes into contact with my skin? Sodium hydroxide is extremely corrosive and is capable of causing severe burns with deep ulceration and permanent scarring. It can penetrate
Re: CSContainers for storing CS?
Because of polyefinsulfate. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSContainers for storing CS?
Ok, believe Fred. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe:blastocystis hominis =
Katarina!! I didn't know this parasite and candida were related!! dang it - I had this stuff 2 years ago - I was deathly ill for about 3 months but supposedly flagyl got rid of them !! I bet they are still there!! Gonna get a stool test - that would at least partly explain why my candida won't go away . . . . hmmm thanks jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nellie/Milk
very interesting. i've been learning more and more about this. not wanting to ingest SOY, i've been ordering rice dream (a brown rice drink) to use as a substitute for milk...butif you have any info on what healthy ways (food, drinks) to get calcium into finicky toddlers, i'd surely appreciate it!! i tried the broccoli is a yummy little tree trick and it didn't get me anywhere, LOL. Hi Diane, Have you tried the flavored Rice Dreams - vanilla, choc? Smoothies with the rice dream and calcium added orange juice are also nice, I throw in a banana as well and a bit of honey for sweetness. While this is a dairy product, my kids love the Stonyfield yogurts, which can still be found in some flavors with juice sweetners. They eat it for dessert, and we mix it into cereal for breakfast. I know I read somewhere a long time ago that cow's milk cells are too large for human intestines to break down properly which is why there are so many lactose intolerant people. But yogurt seems to go down easy, even when other milk products might bother people. I make smoothies with yogurt as well. The broccoli tree never worked for my kids either G. And if you have to load it with stuff just to make them eat (like cream or cheese sauce) than it doesn't seem worth it. There are a couple neat cookbooks I purchased a few years ago, don't know if they are still available, but they are titled Smart Cookies (ISBN 0-937858-62-5) and Smart Muffins by Jane Kinderlehrer, who is/was the food editor of Prevention Magazine, NewMarket Press, 18 East 49th Street, NY, NY 10017. Both contain recipes using whole grains, natural sweetners and each recipe tells you what nutrients you're getting.For example, nuts also provide calcium (almonds, cashews, pecans) as does coconut, raisins, sunflower and sesame seeds, oatmeal and cornmeal. A favorite snack in the house is GORP - Good Old Raisins and Peanuts, throw in some coconut and even Cheerios or pretzels, and you've got a great high protein portable snack. Maybe I missed something, but why is soy not so great? Beth -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:39:51 +0100, MT i...@xs4all.nl wrote: i bought MSM as crystals and they don't seem to dissolve in water am I doing something wrong? or is it the wrong type? Somethings not right. They dissolve fine in water. At least up until it's a saturated solution. See if using warm water helps. Chuck Black holes are where God is dividing by zero -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSstomach flu
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:40:29 -0800, Mary mo...@inow.com wrote: Does CS help with stomach flu, I have had some killer stomach flu the past several days that is really going around here. Couldn't hoit! I'd also try drugstore 3% (that's THREE percent) hydrogen peroxide in the ears. And maybe lots of ascorbic acid orally. Also, go to bed and stay there except for bathroom breaks and meals. I mean it, STAY THERE!!! Book, doze, sleep, whatever. Chuck Cogito Ergo Spud--I think, therefore I yam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina)
Susan, Thank you for replying. I have talked to many holistic doctors, homeopathic, as well as holistic ophthalmologists (only a few in the whole country). And no one was able to offer a fix for a retina damaged by a blood clot. I did find an MD that prescribes the use of magnets. He said that it would take a very powerful (heavy) magnet against the eye for a few hours a day to cause the tissue to regenerate. I would have to wear it while sleeping and not sure if I could stay asleep with all that weight. Bil - Original Message - From: sjlan...@aol.com To: x2...@qnet.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 7:08 PM Subject: Re: CSNeed Help with Eye (retina) Have you tried a homeopathic doctor--they may or may not be able to help. I know Arnica is good for bruises--but you would need to talk to a dr when it comes to eyes. Susan In a message dated 12/14/1999 4:27:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, x2...@qnet.com writes: Has anyone used CS or heard of anything else to cure Macular Degeneration and also restore the damaged retina? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
