CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread Roger D Ragain
Hello Everyone,

I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test
but, I proceeded making it. It never reached the shutoff point but, I
shut it off after 25 hours. I didn't have any cs available as a
starter,btw. 

Roger Ragain
Cahokia, Illinois
United States of America
E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com


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CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread sylvie hargraft


Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine does 
have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!

Sylvie


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Re: CS>CS color

2002-05-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
You are likly looking at clear CS and seeing the bluish tinge from the
Tyndall.  Look at it with the light coming from behind you and see if it is
still blue.  If is it true color it will still be blue.

Marshall

San D wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I made a batch of CS last night, filtered it before storing, the color
> is a little bluish.  Drink it or not??  I am still new to this
> processing.
>
> Help!
>
> Sandra
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Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools

2002-05-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
natural_essenti...@juno.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at some ionizers for swimming pools.  The majority of
> sites say that some chlorine is still needed weekly.  It would seem to me
> that the chlorine and silver would make some silver chloride.  Please
> correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that silver chloide was
> poisonous/toxic?
>

If you add chlorine to a pool that has a silver ionizer, then the ions
combine with the silver and plate out on the sides giving the pool argyria.
They call it staining, but it is the same thing.

There is one company that uses ozonation and copper that claims good results
and no staining. I had one person off list that lives in Vegas (or was it
Phoenix), that said they used that but it was insufficient to keep up with
the organics that blew into their pool.

Marshall


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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
It will usually have a metallic taste.  If you let it sit a day you will likely
find that the ionic part drops and the colloidal part increases with time.  This
should result in a lessening of the metalic taste.

Marshall

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> Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine does
> have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!
> Sylvie
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RE: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John Reeder
Hello Roger,

I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
scrub during the process.

John

-Original Message-
From: Roger D Ragain [mailto:rrag...@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:13 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>my 1st. batch


Hello Everyone,

I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test
but, I proceeded making it. It never reached the shutoff point but, I
shut it off after 25 hours. I didn't have any cs available as a
starter,btw. 

Roger Ragain
Cahokia, Illinois
United States of America
E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com


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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Most likely her water was acid, which caused immediate aggregation of the CS
particles, making them pink.

Marshall

John Reeder wrote:

> Hello Roger,
>
> I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
> out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
> tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
> just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
> 20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
> batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
> needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
> scrub during the process.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger D Ragain [mailto:rrag...@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:13 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>my 1st. batch
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
> was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
> cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
> it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
> distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test
> but, I proceeded making it. It never reached the shutoff point but, I
> shut it off after 25 hours. I didn't have any cs available as a
> starter,btw.
>
> Roger Ragain
> Cahokia, Illinois
> United States of America
> E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com
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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread CKing001
Yes, sometimes it has a metallic taste.
Dilute it if it bothers you. Or slip it in some juice.
Try cutting the brew time. I think you'll find it's a strength thing.

Chuck
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On Mon, 20 May 2002 12:19:46 +, "sylvie hargraft"
 wrote:

>Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine does 
>have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!
>Sylvie


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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Jan
I'm new at this, but my last batch tasted pretty weird and I wondered if it was
dishwashing soap maybe from the jar? Then I made another batch and on the
negative side the electrode had a rust colored  "smoke " come off it and a
white haze on the positive side. Is that normal?  It didn't taste as bad. The
rust color bothers me, should I be worried?

Jan

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> Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine does
> have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!
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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John A. Stanley
In article ,
"John Reeder"  wrote:
>Hello Roger,
>
>I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
>out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
>tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
>just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
>20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
>batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
>needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
>scrub during the process.

When I added an aquarium bubbler for stirring to my Colloid Master it
eliminated crud build-up on the electrodes and the CS is now completely
clear instead of pale yellow. After each batch I wipe the electrodes
with a paper towel, and all that comes off is a little gray stuff.
Before adding the bubbler there would be little piles of gray stuff on
the bottom of the jar below each electrode. My advice is that you add
some sort of stirring to your set-up (either a bubbler or mechanical
stirring with a small motor.)

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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Marshalee Hallett


> I'm new at this, but my last batch tasted pretty weird and I wondered if
it was
> dishwashing soap maybe from the jar? Then I made another batch and on the
> negative side the electrode had a rust colored  "smoke " come off it and a
> white haze on the positive side. Is that normal?  It didn't taste as bad.
The
> rust color bothers me, should I be worried?
>
> Jan

Dear Jan,
the rust "smoke" is the colloid. Are you using salt? It`s usually only
visible if you use salt, which is not necessary.
Marshalee


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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread Jack Dayton
Hello Everyone,

I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test

Hi Roger, I think you got a poor quality DW from WalMart.
If there ie a Walgreens in your area, try their DW, your meter won't
register.
Wallgreens also sell Drinking Water - be careful, the lables look alike.

Jack 


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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Jack Dayton
Hi Sylvie, yep tastes just like mine :-) .

Jack


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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Jack Dayton
Hi Jan

A good rule to try and follow, would be to have the batch jar scrupulously
clean.
If you have a bottle brush or sponge on a handle or something like it, very
carefully  work on the interior of the jar - it needs to be free of every
thing inside.

Then rinse with distilled water  --  put some in the jar, put the lid on and
shake it baby shake it.  This should protect the batch from contamination.

Jack

> From: Jan 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:40:20 -0700
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>taste of CS
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:42:32 -0700
> 
> I'm new at this, but my last batch tasted pretty weird and I wondered if it
> was
> dishwashing soap maybe from the jar?


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Re: CS>Re: CS>cs color/ pierced-ear infections

2002-05-20 Thread Joseph Fritz

At 03:57 PM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cs color

>On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how
soon do you think it would take to clear?


Try drinking 16oz 2 times a day it always works for me when I don't have a 
glass occasionally my ear gets very sore have a 14k yellow gold earring

Sincerely
Joseph Fritz



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RE: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John Reeder
Hello John,

How does one go about adding a bubbler to a one quart jar?

John

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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: CS>my 1st. batch


In article ,
"John Reeder"  wrote:
>Hello Roger,
>
>I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
>out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
>tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
>just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
>20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
>batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
>needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
>scrub during the process.

When I added an aquarium bubbler for stirring to my Colloid Master it
eliminated crud build-up on the electrodes and the CS is now completely
clear instead of pale yellow. After each batch I wipe the electrodes
with a paper towel, and all that comes off is a little gray stuff.
Before adding the bubbler there would be little piles of gray stuff on
the bottom of the jar below each electrode. My advice is that you add
some sort of stirring to your set-up (either a bubbler or mechanical
stirring with a small motor.)

-- 
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RE: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John Reeder
Thanks, will do.

John

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Subject: Re: CS>my 1st. batch


In article ,
"John Reeder"  wrote:
>Hello Roger,
>
>I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
>out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
>tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
>just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
>20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
>batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
>needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
>scrub during the process.

When I added an aquarium bubbler for stirring to my Colloid Master it
eliminated crud build-up on the electrodes and the CS is now completely
clear instead of pale yellow. After each batch I wipe the electrodes
with a paper towel, and all that comes off is a little gray stuff.
Before adding the bubbler there would be little piles of gray stuff on
the bottom of the jar below each electrode. My advice is that you add
some sort of stirring to your set-up (either a bubbler or mechanical
stirring with a small motor.)

-- 
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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John A. Stanley
In article ,
"John Reeder"  wrote:
>Hello John,
>
>How does one go about adding a bubbler to a one quart jar?

Get an aquarium bubbler (I used a cheapie from Walmart) and a length
of the kind of plastic tubing used with water filter systems (don't use
the squishy clear tubing). Hook the tubing up to the bubbler and stick
the other end into the bottom of the jar, using something to keep the
tube from popping out of the jar. If the bubbling action is too vigorous
for a quart jar, then use a clamp to restrict air flow or maybe drill
holes into the tubing to bleed off air.

Here is a picture of my set-up when I was using a 1/2 gallon Rubbermaid
jar:

http://207.177.74.117/cs-gen.jpg

I'm now making it by the gallon in one of those glass sun-tea jars with
the spigot, but I'm using the same plastic lid as in the photo (it fits
over the glass jar; the lid is a little too large, but it's snug enough
to not come off while the batch is running.) The electrodes are jammed
into slits I made with a pocket knife; there's just enough silver
protruding from the top to attach the clips. The spacing is the same
as with the quart jar.

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Re: CS>psoriasis

2002-05-20 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Hi all,
Perhaps you missed my response the other day.  My friend had psoriasis VERY
BAD CASE.  She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots.  I gave her
CS.  She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis.  She wrapped this gauze
with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night.  She did this for three
days, and it was almost ALL GONE.  The CS does work.She also drank about
an oz. twice a day.
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis


> Should she then use it locally only or internally as well??
> Sylvie
>
>
> =Sylvie,  "an immune system disorder" meerly suggests that the body is
> =under
> =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS
> =refered to as a "second immune system"
>
> =Jack
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Re: CS>psoriasis

2002-05-20 Thread sylvie hargraft
Hello, I did read your response, thanks. Is it o.k. if I give her your 
message to read?

Sylvie


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Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:21:45 -0500

Hi all,
Perhaps you missed my response the other day.  My friend had psoriasis VERY
BAD CASE.  She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots.  I gave her
CS.  She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis.  She wrapped this gauze
with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night.  She did this for three
days, and it was almost ALL GONE.  The CS does work.She also drank about
an oz. twice a day.
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis


> Should she then use it locally only or internally as well??
> Sylvie
>
>
> =Sylvie,  "an immune system disorder" meerly suggests that the body is
> =under
> =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS
> =refered to as a "second immune system"
>
> =Jack
>
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Re: CS>Re: CS>cs color/ pierced-ear infections

2002-05-20 Thread Catherine Creel
I've been watching this discussion on infected ears
from piercings.  There's always been a simple
solution used in my family - take the earrings out for
several days, and use a cotton ball soaked inn hydrogen 
peroxide to bathe the area 3x a day.  It's never failed to
work, in my experience.

Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CS>Re: CS>cs color/ pierced-ear infections

2002-05-20 Thread Joseph Fritz

At 03:57 PM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cs color

>On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how
soon do you think it would take to clear?


Try drinking 16oz 2 times a day it always works for me when I don't have a 
glass occasionally my ear gets very sore have a 14k yellow gold earring

Sincerely
Joseph Fritz


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Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

2002-05-20 Thread MARIANO DELISE
add about 5 drops H202 to the CS, let it stand about  15 minutes, add 6 oz.
Gatorade and drink a little all day long.
- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


> In article <02292125$ad8b8020$8dee8...@mmwawsprynet.com>,
> "Maxine Wilton"  wrote:
> > I been on it about 2months now and drinking abt 14 oz aday now.
> > I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I if I am, doing
> > wrong?
>
> I can't answer your question, but I can suggest that you take that 14oz
> of CS in small amounts throughout the day, swishing each sip around in
> the mouth for several minutes before swallowing.
>
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Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools

2002-05-20 Thread MARIANO DELISE
It needs a very SMALL amount of chlorine to burn off all the dead critters
killed by the silver.  Not enough to make much silver chloride
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools


> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at some ionizers for swimming pools.  The majority of
> sites say that some chlorine is still needed weekly.  It would seem to me
> that the chlorine and silver would make some silver chloride.  Please
> correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that silver chloide was
> poisonous/toxic?
>
> Does anyone currently use an ionizer in your pool/spa, and how satisfied
> with it are you?  I seem to recall the original thread was posed by
> Marshall.
>
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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread MARIANO DELISE
mix it with Gatorade.  This will help the taste plus the electolites will
get the CS into your blood quicker.
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:19 AM
Subject: CS>taste of cs


>
> Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine
does
> have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!
> Sylvie
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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Don't throw it away.l  Use it topically and on your plants.  Use it to keep
cut flowers longer, also the water doesn't smell when the cut flowers die.
- Original Message -
From: "John Reeder" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: CS>my 1st. batch


> Hello Roger,
>
> I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
> out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
> tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
> just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
> 20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
> batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
> needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
> scrub during the process.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger D Ragain [mailto:rrag...@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:13 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>my 1st. batch
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
> was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
> cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
> it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
> distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test
> but, I proceeded making it. It never reached the shutoff point but, I
> shut it off after 25 hours. I didn't have any cs available as a
> starter,btw.
>
> Roger Ragain
> Cahokia, Illinois
> United States of America
> E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com
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Re: CS>taste of cs

2002-05-20 Thread Jan
No I didn't use salt. In another batch I did, until I read that it's not
necessary and could make cloride. So is it OK to use?
The water is some store bought distilled. Maybe its the water or some old
residue on the silver. I only used a couple of drops from a 4 oz. water to 1/2
tsp salt solution, on the previous batch, or was it 2 batches ago?.  Thanks,
Jan

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

> > I'm new at this, but my last batch tasted pretty weird and I wondered if
> it was
> > dishwashing soap maybe from the jar? Then I made another batch and on the
> > negative side the electrode had a rust colored  "smoke " come off it and a
> > white haze on the positive side. Is that normal?  It didn't taste as bad.
> The
> > rust color bothers me, should I be worried?
> >
> > Jan
>
> Dear Jan,
> the rust "smoke" is the colloid. Are you using salt? It`s usually only
> visible if you use salt, which is not necessary.
> Marshalee
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Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools

2002-05-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Normally the amount of chlorine is on the order of 1 ppm.  One ppm of chlorine
will react with about 3 ppm of silver (by weight).  A pool containing 20,000
gallons of water with 1 ppm of chlorine would have sufficient chlorine to react
with half a pound of silver making about 2/3 pound of silver chloride.  I would
hardly call that insignificant.

Marshall

MARIANO DELISE wrote:

> It needs a very SMALL amount of chlorine to burn off all the dead critters
> killed by the silver.  Not enough to make much silver chloride
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:18 AM
> Subject: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been looking at some ionizers for swimming pools.  The majority of
> > sites say that some chlorine is still needed weekly.  It would seem to me
> > that the chlorine and silver would make some silver chloride.  Please
> > correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that silver chloide was
> > poisonous/toxic?
> >
> > Does anyone currently use an ionizer in your pool/spa, and how satisfied
> > with it are you?  I seem to recall the original thread was posed by
> > Marshall.
> >
> > Leacy
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> >
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RE: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread John Reeder
Once again, thank you John. The picture helps a lot.

John

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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:19 PM
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Subject: Re: CS>my 1st. batch


In article ,
"John Reeder"  wrote:
>Hello John,
>
>How does one go about adding a bubbler to a one quart jar?

Get an aquarium bubbler (I used a cheapie from Walmart) and a length
of the kind of plastic tubing used with water filter systems (don't use
the squishy clear tubing). Hook the tubing up to the bubbler and stick
the other end into the bottom of the jar, using something to keep the
tube from popping out of the jar. If the bubbling action is too vigorous
for a quart jar, then use a clamp to restrict air flow or maybe drill
holes into the tubing to bleed off air.

Here is a picture of my set-up when I was using a 1/2 gallon Rubbermaid
jar:

http://207.177.74.117/cs-gen.jpg

I'm now making it by the gallon in one of those glass sun-tea jars with
the spigot, but I'm using the same plastic lid as in the photo (it fits
over the glass jar; the lid is a little too large, but it's snug enough
to not come off while the batch is running.) The electrodes are jammed
into slits I made with a pocket knife; there's just enough silver
protruding from the top to attach the clips. The spacing is the same
as with the quart jar.

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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

2002-05-20 Thread galloon
On 20 May 2002 at 16:46, John A. Stanley wrote:
> When I added an aquarium bubbler for stirring to my Colloid Master it
> eliminated crud build-up on the electrodes and the CS is now
> completely clear instead of pale yellow. After each batch I wipe the
> electrodes with a paper towel, and all that comes off is a little gray
> stuff. Before adding the bubbler there would be little piles of gray
> stuff on the bottom of the jar below each electrode. My advice is that
> you add some sort of stirring to your set-up (either a bubbler or
> mechanical stirring with a small motor.)

Hi John 
I had the same improvement but for a completely different reason. I 
haven't used salt since for months, but I do heat the DW first. My 
crud problem went away when I switched from a metal cooking pan 
to a pyrex one.  =Al Renton
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CS>The Law

2002-05-20 Thread Robb Allen
I am seeing a pattern on this list ...everyone for some strange reason
seems to believe that the God of the old testament isn't the same as the God
of the new testament.  I can assure you that Jesus in no way wanted to do
away with the law.  That is why he made appearances throughout the old
testament to different people.  That is why Genesis 1:1 is speaking of him.
That is the beauty of the bible.  I do understand that many words in the
bible are very confusing to the unsaved person.but don't be fooled into
thinking that the old testament law has been done away with.  The only one
who believes that is Man.not God.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

I hope that no one here is under the impression that Jesus made his first
appearance when he was born as a man 2000 years ago

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,
which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain
of the water of life freely.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the
last.

Jesus made many many appearances in the old testamentthe law still
applies.don't count on your childhood baptism to save you.don't
count on how wonderful your mother is...don't believe that you will
come back again as someone else...{reincarnation}..that is simply
not going to happen.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the
judgment:

and don't believe that because you have given to charities..or that you
are a nice person.because that won't save you either

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to
his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the
Holy Ghost;
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good
works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them

I hope this helps someone..Robb


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Re: CS>The Law

2002-05-20 Thread Rich Adams
> I hope this helps someone..Robb

Probably somewhere but here on a CS list?



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Re: CS>The Law

2002-05-20 Thread Robb Allen
sorry...this was an accident..Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Adams 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>The Law


> > I hope this helps someone..Robb
> 
> Probably somewhere but here on a CS list?
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