Re: CSTest equipment
Re: CSTest equipmentVery interesting. Thank you and others for your responses. Gordon - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: CSTest equipment From: Gordon Gazard pyra...@telkomsa.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:55:59 +0200 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTest equipment Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:00:31 -0700 Can anybody recommend a good tester for checking Parts per Million (silver) then a silver tester and an Ozone tester - to test ozone in the air. I am at present using Hanna TDS equipment - but not terribly impressed. Any recommendations? Hi Gordon, from what I have seen posted on this list, you are right to distrust Hanna's TDS meter for silver ppm. What has been recommended is the Hanna PWT meter with a small conversion factor,- - see a post below from May about this subject, Jack ** Date: Wednesday,May 29,2002 10:32 AM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for several reasons as pointed out on our website. Also, you do NOT divide by half when using the PWT. You ADD to the reading. In the case of our generators you add 20%. Hanna is right in telling you to cut the reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in the water. However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the content of CS to determine what silver content we have. In this case the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS. And that reading is always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter will NOT read the colloidal portion. Therefore one has to add to the reading to get the total PPM. The correction factor will be the difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic. We have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full scale. Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM. Since the PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + - 2 PPM. And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT. The PWT is the best choice hands down for measuring PPM. Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com
Re: CSToo much off-topic
Jack wrote: I didn't realize that things posted to OT, don't show up the same as CS items do. That explains the fact that the only respondent to a query I sent to OT was a stranger who was only interested in expounding his religious views. The way it works is... everybody who can post to the regular silver list can post to the OT list anytime they want to at: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The message will show up at the web archives at: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html ... and be sent to anybody who deliberately subscribed to receive it in e-mail, according to the instructions at: http://www.silverlist.org/OffTopic.html Hope that helps. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPPM
Andy quotes *ME*: My guess is that snip (something off topic no doubt) snip. Just dose for effect. guffaw Right. Let's *twang* the list-owner. Hehehe. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Listowner] Flashy banners, etc...
Hi Gang, This is a strange situation. I read the list in Pegasus Mail and routinely display all messages as plain text even when they're sent in HTML ( or web page style) format. So I don't even see all the fancy formatting stuff the rest of you have to put up with. So I had to look REALLY HARD to find the post of Hank's that offended James! In the rules for Commercial Activity, which I've included below, it states that: 'Reasonable use of signature files and taglines is permitted. I will judge what is reasonable. ' My judgment is that Hank's banner *is* over the edge. If you could trim it out of posts to this list, sir, I'd appreciate it. I have to ask the rest of you if there are others who routinely send banners or other stuff on their mail that is at least as flashy and commercial, but promoting somebody else's busines rather than the member's own? My impression is some of the free e-mail services append stuff to users' mail that is at least as annoying. Just curious. My other judgment is that I'd prefer comments on the misbehavior of list members be sent to me privately, so I can referee. James sent me a private note, but I think it was after his on-list reply. And this will *all* become a moot point if I ever implement the stripping of MIME formatted content, leaving just the text. This is, of course, one of those things I'm going to do Real Soon Now (tm), so don't hold your breath, anyone. sigh Please be gentle with each other, folks. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner begin included text from list rules No Commercial Activity This is a non-commercial forum. No vendor may participate except as a private individual. No promotion of any kind is permitted without my prior, explicit approval of each occurrence. No vendor or representative may promote a particular product or malign any other. No vendor sales or solicitation is permitted except in private e-mail. It is each member's responsibility to make sure all business is conducted privately and not on the list, but it is especially the vendors' responsibility to know how to reply off list to avoid violating this rule. Exception: Reasonable use of signature files and taglines is permitted. I will judge what is reasonable. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS for Eye Infections
Since the DMSO is so rapidly distributed throughout the tissues of the entire body, it seems that it would pass out of the membranes as easily as it passes in, and balance the osmotic pressure rapidly, rather than build up in any one area. I am also curious about the solvent effect on the vitreous and aqueous humors. In the animal studies with large long-term doses, the negative effects were in the eye. I think it was the lens that was affected. I am going to write the Jacobsons (? is that their name) and see what they have to say. Perhaps BB will drop by with something. Another subject: I am also trying to track down someone who does particle sizing with one of those new machines. They sell for about 50K. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections Without research I would be concerned about osmotic pressures. The eye is very sensitive to excessive pressure, which could cause blindness. If DMSO were to be absorbed into the eye, I would expect a rather sudden, and possibly excessive pressure increase. I could be wrong, but without any information to the contrary I would be concerned. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPower question
Not much. The voltage is way to low for 60 htz. You need about 10,000 volts, not 100. Marshall jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: There should be two wires in the power supply one - one + put one to each of your silver wires just like you do with the battery setup. Have often wondered what happens if one were to split a 110-volt line directly from the outlet (without an adaptor), to make CS? Probably not a good idea, but why? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTest equipment
Where do I find info on the PWT tester? Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 08:58:27 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSTest equipment Very interesting. Thank you and others for your responses. Gordon - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: CSTest equipment From: Gordon Gazard pyra...@telkomsa.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:55:59 +0200 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTest equipment Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:00:31 -0700 Can anybody recommend a good tester for checking Parts per Million (silver) then a silver tester and an Ozone tester - to test ozone in the air. I am at present using Hanna TDS equipment - but not terribly impressed. Any recommendations? Hi Gordon, from what I have seen posted on this list, you are right to distrust Hanna's TDS meter for silver ppm. What has been recommended is the Hanna PWT meter with a small conversion factor,- - see a post below from May about this subject, Jack ** Date: Wednesday,May 29,2002 10:32 AM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for several reasons as pointed out on our website. Also, you do NOT divide by half when using the PWT. You ADD to the reading. In the case of our generators you add 20%. Hanna is right in telling you to cut the reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in the water. However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the content of CS to determine what silver content we have. In this case the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS. And that reading is always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter will NOT read the colloidal portion. Therefore one has to add to the reading to get the total PPM. The correction factor will be the difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic. We have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full scale. Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM. Since the PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + - 2 PPM. And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT. The PWT is the best choice hands down for measuring PPM. Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com image/gif
Re: CSHealth and Safety Warning!!! (was: CHEAP HOMEMADE HIGH-VOLUME COLLOIDAL SILVER MAKER)
Purely an academic comment. The oxide is inside the tube, while the magnets and heat sinks are outside the tube, cradling it. They aren't even attached. When you grind off or unscrew the screws holding the heat sinks, the tube itself remains intact and the magnets readily slip off the outside. Have a look for yourself. Point taken though. Duncan I'm not an electrician at all but I found using the high-voltage wire and bypassing or removing the magnetron easy to do. The magnetron can be broken apart to give you 2 useful-sized ceramic magnets for magnetizing water You are also obviously not aware that magnetrons may contain beryllium oxide. Usually seen as a fine white powder which WILL irreparably damage your lungs and lead to an early death if inhaled. Because of the possibility of BeO or other toxic materials, you should not physically open high power tubes of any kind unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing (In which case you wouldn't open them...). Whatever parts you might scavenge from these items are not worth the risks. Regards, George Martin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTest equipment
http://www.hannainst.com/products/testers/pwt.htm http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item12.htm - Original Message - Where do I find info on the PWT tester? Tom -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEU Rx update
The attack comes from four different pieces of legislation... So much for Hippocrates, who said, Let food be your medicine. The new EU laws will say that a product must be either one or the other... http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,790733,00.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
Evening Jack, It helped, so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. Can you tell us where you read this, or give us a link. So I have become somewhat cautious about what I use CS for and I guess that caution manifested itself when I responded to that post. Of course wise people use caution in every thing we do. I use more caution in most every act of life than I do relative to CS use. Honestly, I don't think CS ever killed anyone, unless they fell into a large tank and drowned. Maybe you have some information we have missed. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Ralph] CSTest equipment
tom, The main website is: www.hannainst.com bu the PWT is located at http://www.hannainst.com/products/testers/pwt.htm I have one and am not impressed. It doesn't seem to work. Right after I ordered it, the CS List said that it was not a good one for testing PPM for CS. If you find a way for me to learn how to use it, I would be grateful Ralph = At 02:44 PM 9/14/02 -0500, you wrote: Where do I find info on the PWT tester? Tom ---Original Message--- From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 08:58:27 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSTest equipment Very interesting. Thank you and others for your responses. Gordon - Original Message - From: mailto:jack...@harbornet.comJack Dayton To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: CSTest equipment From: Gordon Gazard mailto:pyra...@telkomsa.netpyra...@telkomsa.net Reply-To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:55:59 +0200 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTest equipment Resent-From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:00:31 -0700 Can anybody recommend a good tester for checking Parts per Million (silver) then a silver tester and an Ozone tester - to test ozone in the air. I am at present using Hanna TDS equipment - but not terribly impressed. Any recommendations? Hi Gordon, from what I have seen posted on this list, you are right to distrust Hanna's TDS meter for silver ppm. What has been recommended is the Hanna PWT meter with a small conversion factor,- - see a post below from May about this subject, Jack ** Date: Wednesday,May 29,2002 10:32 AM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for several reasons as pointed out on our website. Also, you do NOT divide by half when using the PWT. You ADD to the reading. In the case of our generators you add 20%. Hanna is right in telling you to cut the reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in the water. However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the content of CS to determine what silver content we have. In this case the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS. And that reading is always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter will NOT read the colloidal portion. Therefore one has to add to the reading to get the total PPM. The correction factor will be the difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic. We have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full scale. Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM. Since the PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + - 2 PPM. And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT. The PWT is the best choice hands down for measuring PPM. Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=96390c9.gif IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=9Click Here inline: 6390c9.gif
CSPower question
There should be two wires in the power supply one - one + put one to each of your silver wires just like you do with the battery setup. Have often wondered what happens if one were to split a 110-volt line directly from the outlet (without an adaptor), to make CS? Probably not a good idea, but why? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [CSPower question]
I can't answer you on this. I think it might work but I sure am not going to try it. Maybe someone will have an answer for us. Hank. PS hope my banner is gone. jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: There should be two wires in the power supply one - one + put one to each of your silver wires just like you do with the battery setup. Have often wondered what happens if one were to split a 110-volt line directly from the outlet (without an adaptor), to make CS? Probably not a good idea, but why? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: New generater
Thank you for helping with my CS production. The Colloid Master 777 distributer spent a lot of time with me on the phone and the list helped by suggesting a CS starter and cleaning the electrodes. I followed the advise and yesterday made 16 oz 12ppm CS in a reasonable amount of time. Mary Lee
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:16:39 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:18:46 -0700 You wrote: ..., so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. Where did you read that? Sorry Jim, if I could have remembered I would have included the source. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
From: Keith Pittman pittcollo...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:44:10 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Seeking info Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:48:14 -0700 Keith wrote: Hi Jack, I recently got a pre-calibrated TDS meter. My water starts at 1 PPM Hi Keith, When you said you were using a TDS meter to determine ppm I immediately thought of a post from back in May. You should find it interesting. Jack * Date: Wednesday,May 29,2002 10:32 AM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for several reasons as pointed out on our website. Also, you do NOT divide by half when using the PWT. You ADD to the reading. In the case of our generators you add 20%. Hanna is right in telling you to cut the reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in the water. However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the content of CS to determine what silver content we have. In this case the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS. And that reading is always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter will NOT read the colloidal portion. Therefore one has to add to the reading to get the total PPM. The correction factor will be the difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic. We have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full scale. Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM. Since the PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + - 2 PPM. And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT. The PWT is the best choice hands down for measuring PPM. Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPower question
At 02:24 PM 9/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: There should be two wires in the power supply one - one + put one to each of your silver wires just like you do with the battery setup. Everyone still overlooks the 52 V. DC that exists at every phone outlet. Originally I used the 3 X 9 = 27 Volts. Then. one day I realized that 2 X 27 = 54. The phone line generator is not exactly 2 times as fast, but it is so close it appears to be twice as fast. Have often wondered what happens if one were to split a 110-volt line directly from the outlet (without an adaptor), to make CS? Probably not a good idea, but why? I would use a diode or two and it will work very well. One should be qualified and think Safety before he considers doing this. I would also use a 1 to 1 isolation transformer. If you are going to this much trouble, you might as well get a transformer better suited and made a decent unit. Never look for different ways to do thing just to be different and have an original method. Nowhere did I see any mention or instructions on the phone line generator. I have built about 20 units for friends and family and everyone is happy. I make 52 oz per batch and run the process for 45 minutes to one hour. The bonus is that the LED makes a decent water tester. If I LED glows more than a slight amount with distilled water only, I reject the water and look for one with lower EC. I think everyone that has any type unit with an LED should always perform this test of each gallon of distilled water. This will soon tell you where to buy water, and what labels are best. Due to different phone wiring, if you use an LED, a full wave rectifier is used to handle any polarity of phone line voltage that will be encountered. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpossible conflict between CS and antibiotics
Thank everyone for the information. Developed high temp., mussel ach, large running sores on swelled legs. Seen dr. and was hospitalized, Transferred to rest home for IVs. Test came out strep, infection.cellulites ( spelling). Am out on a short pass at moment. Will load on CS. Have wanted to sign my self out because of incompliant care. In way am being held hostage to the system because of insurance, to refuse treatment opened large can of worms. Feel will have it controlled shortly. Thanks again for information. Ron - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: CSpossible conflict between CS and antibiotics Dear Mr. Wilson, We determined, several years ago, during a research program aimed at establishing thresholds-of-effectivity for some of the more pernicious pathogens...that some (including staph types) required rather high-volume CS ingestionespecially until the systemic titer was raised to efficacy level. Typically, among our experimental population, a median dosage of 5 to 10 ppm strength proved to be 16 to 24 ounces daily (at least for the first 5 days). Once pathogenic reproduction was controlled, remission and recovery, usually, followed in rapid order. In some cases involving high-mucus environments, a DMSO component was required for transport. We have been unable to isolate ANY pathogen from among the current catalogue of agents...that properly made colloidal silver will not control-provided the insulting agent is brought into direct contact with the CS. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. ronwilson wrote: have been losing fight with infection, antibiotics did not help. Tried CS. seemed to help but infection is running wild, possible staff, acts like one had year ago. Would their be conflict if took both? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[Ralph] CSTest equipment
The PWT is very useful. It's the TDS you don't want. You need fudge factors to approximate your ppm though. Chuck If I melt dry ice can I swim without getting wet? On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:23:32 -0500, Ralph D.Gerhardt ral...@stic.net wrote: tom, The main website is: www.hannainst.com bu the PWT is located at http://www.hannainst.com/products/testers/pwt.htm I have one and am not impressed. It doesn't seem to work. Right after I ordered it, the CS List said that it was not a good one for testing PPM for CS. If you find a way for me to learn how to use it, I would be grateful Ralph = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
THIS comment was very intersting to me, as I have noticed on several occasions after using CS orally (for dental reasons) and after ingesting CS, I sometimes see black, gnat-like specks in my field of vision when moving my eyes. I am not positive whether this is in one eye only or both. A similar effect sometimes occurs of seeing bubbles before my eyes. Very odd, and clearly related to CS ingestion. I have no idea what causes this but will investigate. The effect rarely lasts longer than 10-15 minutes and does not return unless I ingest CS again. It would seem that SOMEHOW CS is directly influencing the transmission of optical information directly, rather than getting into the vitreous humor and causing an optical illusion of the kind produced by vitreous floaters, given the transcience of the effect. Any ideas from any opthamologists online? JBB James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Since the DMSO is so rapidly distributed throughout the tissues of the entire body, it seems that it would pass out of the membranes as easily as it passes in, and balance the osmotic pressure rapidly, rather than build up in any one area. I am also curious about the solvent effect on the vitreous and aqueous humors. In the animal studies with large long-term doses, the negative effects were in the eye. I think it was the lens that was affected. I am going to write the Jacobsons (? is that their name) and see what they have to say. Perhaps BB will drop by with something. Another subject: I am also trying to track down someone who does particle sizing with one of those new machines. They sell for about 50K. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections Without research I would be concerned about osmotic pressures. The eye is very sensitive to excessive pressure, which could cause blindness. If DMSO were to be absorbed into the eye, I would expect a rather sudden, and possibly excessive pressure increase. I could be wrong, but without any information to the contrary I would be concerned. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
