CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Bill, Good to hear from you, and I value your observations. Can you tell me what reason you may have to believe Microdyn is not 3200ppm? And I do know that Biopur states on the label that it is 1500ppm. If Microdyn is not 3200 I would imagine that at the very least it's well over the 500ppm we've been talking. I do know that Microdyn is being used quite successfully in silver saturating pottery water filtration elements around Central America and the Carribean, removing 100% of fecal coliforms. Some of these filters are still effective after seven years of continuous use, and are yet another CS boon to the poor. On the other hand the manufacturers of the filters also advertise these as being saturated with 3200ppm CS. Can someone else on the list kindly help in putting to rest the very misquided notion that concentrated CS is *not* a reality? Namaste, Reid Bill Missett said: I don't believe that the commercial CS being sold in Mexico (there are now about five brands available to me, all basically the same) has been rated at 3200ppm, even though I was guilty of making that statement early on, until corrected. Apparently Microdyn and the others have not been officially tested by anyone known on the list. The 3200ppm claim comes from the fact that most of the commercial CS brands (but not all) are rated as being 0.32 percent CS. That would be 3200 parts of a million, but not the 3200ppm we're talking about, as I understand it. But Mexican CS is very potent, works quickly and is cheap. A 1.3 ounce bottle costs less than a dollar and lasts at least a month with daily usage. The entire city of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, population 1 million, has successfully used CS to purify the city's water supply for the past 40 years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGenerator Plans
I am new to this list and would like to know if anyone has instructions for building a good CS generator? RJ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: Smallpox
That anthrax strain was traced to Fort Detrick..not necessarily the quantity of anthrax itself. It only takes one organism to breed as much as you want. Now, is that a strain that's not found in nature? Anthrax is not uncommon. Granted that the quality of the anthrax indicates that some one who know what they're doing made it, but that doesn't draw an entirely straight line to a US gov't lab. The Ruskies seem to lose nuclear material fairly well. I recall a case where a Columbian drug lord bought a Russian submarine at a bargain..complete with crew. [not nuclear, but complete with torpedoes] They almost got it out of the dock before being stopped. I was bought 'as stolen'..not from those who owned it. I once knew a guy in the US Army that said he gets paid by the month and by the truckload. He had all sort of toys in his trunk including sections of garden hose full of pure sodium. Stolen from the cooling system of a nuclear reactor??? Need a white phosphorous grenade? Sure, no prob! Ken At 12:24 PM 9/26/02 -0400, you wrote: Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it was in the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post. It was tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped the investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation. The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US. If small pox is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of a much bigger plan. Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting to wipe out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own. It cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them. Most of the population is no longer vaccinated against it. So basically if it were used it would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO directives) on biological population reduction. With the miserable failure of AIDs to accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card. And as I said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries. After all CS should protect those of us here fine. Marshall Nysee wrote: How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army? Just Curious. Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so? I would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another country if I trusted any of them at all. Nysee - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSFW: Smallpox I don't know what all the hype is about small pox. First of all there are only two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC in -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
I guess I forgot to mention that even mud works? Ken > >And Ken, I am really surprised at you, firstly because at times you >display a very sound understanding of chemistry, and here you are not. >Imagine that all the world should focus on small particle CS, simply for >its 10% additional benefit with respect to larger particle CS. This is >a bad case of straining off a knat and gulping down a camel. Can you >folks who are so blind in this respect kindly take a closer look? The >witness you are bearing would deny the benefits of CS to countless poor >the world over. >Reid > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: San Luis Potasi
Now this is absolutely fascinating. Since this city is using CS in the water supply, wouldn't it stand to reason that those million people who live there and drink this water would be a much healthier bunch than the rest of us??? Wouldn't this be a great place to do some kind of study/research on CS?? This looks like fertile ground for some serious work. Jean List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:12:30 -0500 From: Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS Message-id: 000d01c265ba$9440eac0$5033e...@computer Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit But Mexican CS is very potent, works quickly and is cheap. A 1.3 ounce bottle costs less than a dollar and lasts at least a month with daily usage. The entire city of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, population 1 million, has successfully used CS to purify the city's water supply for the past 40 years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNew Here.Hello ,
Hello to everyone, My name is Cher and I am very interested in learning all I can about CS I have a son with very bad allergieshe is only seven but I did strat himm on Dr.Clarks zapper last night not to much about 3 1/2 min to 20 min pause .Doe's anyone think that CS will work on his allergies.I am sorry for being ignorent on this subject I am searching to help my son.He almost died two years ago because he had a bad reaction to what I think was influenza , Of course the Doctors won't admit.If anyone can help me with this CS I would be very greatful. Sincerely , Cher
Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Reid: I don't know this for a fact, just anecdotally. When I joined the list several years ago, I made that claim and was immediately corrected by one of the older hands on the list who informed me that to his knowledge, Microdyn had never been tested for particle strength on a spectrograph. He seemed to know the facts, and since my 3200ppm claim was just my extrapolation of the label claim, I adopted his explanation as truth. I even inquired within the past year about getting Microdyn formally tested, to put the question to rest, but since I'm living on SS down here, I didn't have the $35 fee to contribute to the cause. I'd love to know for sure myself. - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:13 AM Subject: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS Bill, Good to hear from you, and I value your observations. Can you tell me what reason you may have to believe Microdyn is not 3200ppm? And I do know that Biopur states on the label that it is 1500ppm. If Microdyn is not 3200 I would imagine that at the very least it's well over the 500ppm we've been talking. I do know that Microdyn is being used quite successfully in silver saturating pottery water filtration elements around Central America and the Carribean, removing 100% of fecal coliforms. Some of these filters are still effective after seven years of continuous use, and are yet another CS boon to the poor. On the other hand the manufacturers of the filters also advertise these as being saturated with 3200ppm CS. Can someone else on the list kindly help in putting to rest the very misquided notion that concentrated CS is *not* a reality? Namaste, Reid Bill Missett said: I don't believe that the commercial CS being sold in Mexico (there are now about five brands available to me, all basically the same) has been rated at 3200ppm, even though I was guilty of making that statement early on, until corrected. Apparently Microdyn and the others have not been officially tested by anyone known on the list. The 3200ppm claim comes from the fact that most of the commercial CS brands (but not all) are rated as being 0.32 percent CS. That would be 3200 parts of a million, but not the 3200ppm we're talking about, as I understand it. But Mexican CS is very potent, works quickly and is cheap. A 1.3 ounce bottle costs less than a dollar and lasts at least a month with daily usage. The entire city of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, population 1 million, has successfully used CS to purify the city's water supply for the past 40 years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
I have serious allergy problems, and drink CS every day. Never helped one iota. - Original Message - From: cherspun...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: CSNew Here.Hello , Hello to everyone, My name is Cher and I am very interested in learning all I can about CS I have a son with very bad allergieshe is only seven but I did strat himm on Dr.Clarks zapper last night not to much about 3 1/2 min to 20 min pause .Doe's anyone think that CS will work on his allergies.I am sorry for being ignorent on this subject I am searching to help my son.He almost died two years ago because he had a bad reaction to what I think was influenza , Of course the Doctors won't admit.If anyone can help me with this CS I would be very greatful. Sincerely , Cher
RE: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also
Hi Marshall, This is from vague memory, and I cannot recall where I read it, perhaps in some of Betty Martini's writing, but there is something going on with the labeling requirements for Aspartame, that does not require it to be listed below certain levels or something like that. I will try to find my reference. I suppose one could write the makers. On the other hand, they may have gotten smart and removed it. I hope so, because Pediolyte is so very useful. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and carefully, to a real time blood sampler in a toe vein. They carefully inserted a tube into the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of various solutions into the dog's stomach. CS, CS with MSM, etc. Brooks wrote an informal report that is in the archives. When the following balance of Lactated Ringer's solution CS, and MSM was used, the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that within the same time range as when only CS was used . Voila; near IV results without the poke. Lactated Ringer's solution is a standard water and electrolyte replacement solution used commonly in modern medical practice. It is most often administered IV. Pedialyte (spelling?) is very similar, but unfortunately contains aspartame, a deadly neurotoxin. It is used to orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and other conditions that cause them to loose lots water and electrolytes. I used it to keep my kids out of the hospital on an IV on several occasions, but will wait till someone makes a version w/o aspartame before using it ever again. I recall seeing aspertame on the ingredients of Pediolyte also. But I just checked several bottles of it tonight, both the unflavored and several flavors, and it no longer lists aspertame in the ingredients. It now has sucaryl or something like that. I compared Pediolyte to Gaterade, and although similar they are quite different. The second ingredient (first is water), is glucose (aka dextrose) for Pediolyte and sucrose (cane sugar) for Gaterade. Also Gaterade contains citric acid which Pdeiolyte does not. Marshall
RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Are the very high concentrations made electolytically? If they are made by precipitation, the Zeta potential may be very different. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Reid Harvey [mailto:pott...@wlink.com.np] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:14 AM To: silver list Subject: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS Bill, Good to hear from you, and I value your observations. Can you tell me what reason you may have to believe Microdyn is not 3200ppm? And I do know that Biopur states on the label that it is 1500ppm. If Microdyn is not 3200 I would imagine that at the very least it's well over the 500ppm we've been talking. I do know that Microdyn is being used quite successfully in silver saturating pottery water filtration elements around Central America and the Carribean, removing 100% of fecal coliforms. Some of these filters are still effective after seven years of continuous use, and are yet another CS boon to the poor. On the other hand the manufacturers of the filters also advertise these as being saturated with 3200ppm CS. Can someone else on the list kindly help in putting to rest the very misquided notion that concentrated CS is *not* a reality? Namaste, Reid Bill Missett said: I don't believe that the commercial CS being sold in Mexico (there are now about five brands available to me, all basically the same) has been rated at 3200ppm, even though I was guilty of making that statement early on, until corrected. Apparently Microdyn and the others have not been officially tested by anyone known on the list. The 3200ppm claim comes from the fact that most of the commercial CS brands (but not all) are rated as being 0.32 percent CS. That would be 3200 parts of a million, but not the 3200ppm we're talking about, as I understand it. But Mexican CS is very potent, works quickly and is cheap. A 1.3 ounce bottle costs less than a dollar and lasts at least a month with daily usage. The entire city of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, population 1 million, has successfully used CS to purify the city's water supply for the past 40 years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerator Plans
I am new to this list and would like to know if anyone has instructions for building a good CS generator? RJ Dear RJ, Here`s how to make a simple generator, I hope this is helpful! Marshalee You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, the square ones. (the Lithiums last 4 times longer than the alkalines, if you can afford them; they are about 21 bucks at Radio Shack) 2 five inch pieces of pure silver wire, 14 gauge, .999 fine, (not sterling as it has other metals in it.) 2 alligator clips, (the kind with 2 clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, also available at the Shack) 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup, (I always use glass to make CS in. I have a cup used solely for making my CS.) A new green scrubber, just for this purpose. An empty water bottle to store your finished CS in. A pop top plastic bottle is just fine. Rinse the cup and storage bottle with distilled water to remove any dust or soap residue. Take the batteries and snap them together, one upside down on top of the other two. This will leave two empty posts on the batteries. Connect the silver wires to the posts with the two alligator clips. Drop the wires into the water, with about 4 inches submerged, and about 1 inch apart. As they tend to float around, you can put a candycane bend in the top of the wires and hang that over the lip of the cup, with the connectors hooked to the bend. Don`t let the connectors get into the water. It is now working. You can`t get shocked by it. Now leave it and time for 30 minutes. You may notice some bubbles coming off one wire, and fine wisps of gold coming off the other, that is the Colloid forming! The bubbles are hydrogen, from the water. There will be a buildup of fuzz on one wire, that is silver oxide. It is harmless, but you can wipe it off with a paper towel. Replace the wires, and time for another 30 minutes. This one hour activation gives a CS of about 18 PPM. The longer it works, the higher the PPM. When finished, wipe off the wires with a paper towel, then with the green scrubber until the wires are shiny again, and detach the batteries. Store it all in a ziploc bag to keep it handy. The finished CS doesn`t need to be refrigerated. If you keep the bottle out where you see it, you`ll remember to take it! I take 3 big swallows a day for an active infection, sometimes even more. (My swallow is about 1/3 of a cup.) The silver particles are fine enough to be easily excreted, so taking more won`t hurt. If you hold the CS in your mouth for a few minutes, it will clean your mouth nicely. I take one swallow a day for a preventive. I use it topically too, and even in the eyes. It is mild and doesn`t sting. Splash some in the pits for a natural deodorant. It is bacteria that causes BO, and since CS kills the bacteria, no BO! CS doesn`t taste too bad either. Some folks notice a metallic tang, others don`t. I`ll slap some on my skin for a sunburn, and will be tan the next day. I use it for bug bites and stings too. Canker sores respond quickly. I have used CS for my pet birds, and always put some in the water bowl for my Pug dog. CS is even good for cut flowers, they will last for weeks. It is bacteria that actually kills fresh-cut flowers. It can be sprayed on houseplants with fungus or rust. A dollop in the milk jug keeps the milk fresh for a long time. There are lots more uses for CS in the body and around the house. Any place bacteria live can benefit from CS. --- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
Dear Cher, Hi, and welcome!!I think CS does help allergies! I used to be so bad with my allergies that I`d go into asthma. Now I`ll get itchy eyes and maybe sneeze a bit, but no asthma. Love, Marshalee Hello to everyone, My name is Cher and I am very interested in learning all I can about CS I have a son with very bad allergieshe is only seven but I did strat himm on Dr.Clarks zapper last night not to much about 3 1/2 min to 20 min pause .Doe's anyone think that CS will work on his allergies.I am sorry for being ignorent on this subject I am searching to help my son.He almost died two years ago because he had a bad reaction to what I think was influenza , Of course the Doctors won't admit.If anyone can help me with this CS I would be very greatful. Sincerely , Cher
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population.
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
Thanks for the reply ( lol) Sincerely, Cher
CSFW: Question about making CS?
My first opinion, she is bubbling too strongly. Secondly, she is using the Robey generator, with samples tested by Ole Bob (as well as samples from another person using the Robey) The results were very bad quality CS, and not near the ppm's the manufacturere claimed they would get. (the sample results are in our archives) Answers to her questions about what she is producing are appreciated. (I have tried to convince her she needs to get another generator) TIA, Connie Subject: Question about making CS? I finally got myself a bubbler and started a one quart batch of CS last night with it. I did all I normally do, used the best Distilled water and the generator with the added bubbler this time. I timed it so I would have an idea of length of batch time. One hour went by, no black fuzzies on the silver wire. A Second hour went by with STILL no fuzzies and my CS timer was still lit! Three hours went by and STILL no fuzzies and STILL the light is lit! I finally took the bubbler out, and about 15 minutes later I saw some fuzzies forming and approximately 15 minutes after that the light went out! QUESTION? DiD I MAKE CS WHY three hours with the bubbler and still no formation of those black fuzzies I am so used to seeing when CS is brewing? The CS? today is still crystal clear, ( which it is normally ). I can't tell by taste as I hate water anyway. Over 3 hours was a long time to be watching this stuff sit there doing nothing but make bubbles. Can you tell me what is going on and why didn't my silver get black and make fuzzies as usual? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
I've tried the local honey until I had hives - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've had extrordinary results from using local honey and licking my pollinated windshield in the morning. Ken At 06:53 AM 9/27/02 -0700, you wrote: 2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
ill it. I don't see why it would unless accociated with some sort of living pathogen. If it ain't alive, ya can't kill it.CS does seem to help with 'infections' that result from allergic attacks. Ken At 07:30 AM 9/27/02 -0500, you wrote: I have serious allergy problems, and drink CS every day. Never helped one iota. - Original Message - From: mailto:cherspun...@aol.com>cherspun...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: CS>New Here.Hello , Hello to everyone, My name is Cher and I am very interested in learning all I can about CS I have a son with very bad allergieshe is only seven but I did strat himm on Dr.Clarks zapper last night not to much about 3 1/2 min to 20 min pause .Doe's anyone think that CS will work on his allergies.I am sorry for being ignorent on this subject I am searching to help my son.He almost died two years ago because he had a bad reaction to what I think was influenza , Of course the Doctors won't admit.If anyone can help me with this CS I would be very greatful. Sincerely , Cher -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
I've had extrordinary results from using local honey and licking my pollinated windshield in the morning. Ken At 06:53 AM 9/27/02 -0700, you wrote: 2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew Here.Hello ,
Kinky. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've had extrordinary results from using local honey and licking my pollinated windshield in the morning. Ken At 06:53 AM 9/27/02 -0700, you wrote: 2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
I was going to try the local honey, but my wife found out and had a fit! Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've tried the local honey until I had hives - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've had extrordinary results from using local honey and licking my pollinated windshield in the morning. Ken At 06:53 AM 9/27/02 -0700, you wrote: 2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
I have been trying to get them for 2 days, but all I get is an answering machine. Their number is 423-439-6242. Anyway, I believe that this doctor has confirmed what many of here have been saying about high ppm CS. That is is less effective then normal 5 to 20 ppm CS. The normal method of testing CS is to continue diluting it and testing until the effectiveness drops off. If you start with 5 to 20 ppm CS, out tests indicate that this does not occur until about a 10:1 dilution. IE. it is effective down to about .5 or so ppm. Now if, as we believe, high ppm CS is not very effective becaue of the large particle size, then if you dilute it 2:1 and that is where the effectiveness drops off, that says that basically 500 ppm CS is about 1/5 as effective as 5 ppm CS. It seems to me he has shot his own product down with that statement. Marshall Marshall Dudley wrote: I will contact them tomorrow. We had CS tested by UT and they found effectiveness in the less than 1 ppm range. Marshall Rich Adams wrote: This is a reply from a company selling 500ppm CS. I need all your valuable input please. This is the reply from one Dr. Lynn who owns the website (www.graywhalebotanicals.com) where she is selling it. I tend to follow clinical stuff and this is what I use: clinical laboratory tests at Eastern Tennessee State University, Dept. of Microbiology, show that the level for effectiveness is at least 250 parts per million. The 500 ppm is a clinical dosage and is only sold to licensed practitioners. The 500 ppm is approved by the FDA and there is no known toxicity reported by the U.S. Poison Control Center. The FDA approved this? Is this Dr talking nonsense? It sounds like it. If you have input and can specify links, that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Respectfully, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSshingles
I got shingles about 15 years ago and didn't know about cs. I didn't have the money for a doctor either so I got out the natural health book and it suggested using vitamin E. Which I did and used a lot of it. Internally and externally on the area of the blisters. I had shingles only 10 days and never had any residual pain scarring or whatever. I took about 1000 mg atleast 4 times a day if not more and kept the area smeared with E and covered with gause to keep it on. Hope this helps. Mary ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:28:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSshingles Neurotin is primarily prescribed for seizures although it is also being prescribed for pain (definitely not classified as an analgesic medication) as it works neurologically. And it does work in many cases for certain types pain. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: RE: CSshingles Did you try CS? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: waddle...@aol.com [mailto:waddle...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSshingles Some time ago there was a discussion on post herpetic neuralgia pain. After trying many alternatives such as Reiki, Theraputic touch, Universal Healing, Pranic Energy, Gentle Touch, Chants, Affirmations and some others w/o significant improvement.back to the Doc. The drug Neurotin is used to treat depression. However, it was also found to work for shingles. It is still considered experimental treatment for phn. They don't know why it works, when and if it does. I was prescribed 300mg/day which I took for 30 days and 600mg/day for 30 days with no improvement. I just started 900mg/day and on the 2nd day there was a 70% reduction in pain. The maximum dosage is 2,400mg/day. I can drive rather comfortably now and walk straight up but slowly. Hopefully may even give up my handicap plague soon. Let's see. Waddle -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/jpegimage/gifImage/jpeg
CSThanks to all old cayote for recomending silvergen
Hello, I have ordered the SG6 from silvergen.com. Seems very good and I thank you for the recommedation to make my own CS. That's kind and very unselfish of you. Hope to get it next week and over time see a life again. Once again, thanks to EVERYONE who shared their experiences with Lyme CS - they offer me some hope and light. I am concentaring (christ I'm dislecsik) on health for now so won't be on the list for a while. If anybody wants to email me off list I'd like to keep in touch as I improve My email address is lymegladia...@btinternet.com ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU AGAIN. Kevinimage/gifimage/gif
RE: CSThanks to all old cayote for recomending silvergen
Good fortune to you. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Kevin Raggett [mailto:lymegladia...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThanks to all old cayote for recomending silvergen Hello, I have ordered the SG6 from silvergen.com. Seems very good and I thank you for the recommedation to make my own CS. That's kind and very unselfish of you. Hope to get it next week and over time see a life again. Once again, thanks to EVERYONE who shared their experiences with Lyme CS - they offer me some hope and light. I am concentaring (christ I'm dislecsik) on health for now so won't be on the list for a while. If anybody wants to email me off list I'd like to keep in touch as I improve. My email address is lymegladia...@btinternet.com ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU AGAIN. Kevin ATT3.gifATT6.gif
Re: CSNew Here.Hello ,
James Allison wrote: I was going to try the local honey, but my wife found out and had a fit! Yours in health, James Allison Local honey seems to have worked for me. I used to get awful hay fever, but now I only sneeze occasionally. Couldn't be the CS because I got better a long time before I started using it. I heard about local honey, and I started getting some from a neighbor, which I used for years. Jeannie -- A friend walks in when everyone else walks out. Jeannie McReynolds Oregon Coast
RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Ken, Thanks for this acknowledgement that 'mud works.' But actually it's only mud before you dilute it. After diluting to ~10ppm it's clear yellow, large particle to be sure, but in the face of illness who are we to be perfectionists? R Ken said: I guess I forgot to mention that even mud works? Ken And Ken, I am really surprised at you, firstly because at times you display a very sound understanding of chemistry, and here you are not. Imagine that all the world should focus on small particle CS, simply for its 10% additional benefit with respect to larger particle CS. This is a bad case of straining off a knat and gulping down a camel. Can you folks who are so blind in this respect kindly take a closer look? The witness you are bearing would deny the benefits of CS to countless poor the world over. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Marshall, Another common assertion on this list is that large particle CS is 10% less effective than the small particle variety. Wouldn't this be at odd with what you are saying? Also, for what it's worth I can asure you of the effectiveness of the large particle stuff, time and again it has treated my family's various aches and pains. Reid Marshall said: I have been trying to get them for 2 days, but all I get is an answering machine. Their number is 423-439-6242. Anyway, I believe that this doctor has confirmed what many of here have been saying about high ppm CS. That is is less effective then normal 5 to 20 ppm CS. The normal method of testing CS is to continue diluting it and testing until the effectiveness drops off. If you start with 5 to 20 ppm CS, out tests indicate that this does not occur until about a 10:1 dilution. IE. it is effective down to about .5 or so ppm. Now if, as we believe, high ppm CS is not very effective becaue of the large particle size, then if you dilute it 2:1 and that is where the effectiveness drops off, that says that basically 500 ppm CS is about 1/5 as effective as 5 ppm CS. It seems to me he has shot his own product down with that statement. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Dear James-Osbourne: Holmes, I am not familiar with the means by which Microdyn and others in Mexico are making their concentrated CS, but am under the impression that they could be making by the same means that I do. Here are the basic components of my generator (courtesy of educate-yourself.org): 1. a two liter erlenmeyer flask with rubber stopper, through which is set a thermometer and the two electrodes 2. a double boiler into which the flask is set 3. an electrical converter which outputs 27volts DC During the process the temperature is kept just under boiling. Polarity is switched every minute, in order to prevent current runaway. This also minimizes the amount of silver oxide that collects on the electrodes. I generally run the generator for three or four hours which yields ~200ppm, but if one were to run it for a couple of days they'd get upto ppm in the thousands. At 200ppm it looks like glorious *mud* to reflected light, but put a strong light behind it and you'll see that it's still clear. I am unfamiliar with zeta potential so would welcome your observations on that. Reid James-Osbourne: Holmes, Are the very high concentrations made electolytically? If they are made by precipitation, the Zeta potential may be very different. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHoney jokes...
ITS A JOKE!! My favorite honey joke is How would you like it if someone stole your honey and nectar? Get it?? Marshalee James Allison wrote: I was going to try the local honey, but my wife found out and had a fit! Yours in health, James Allison Local honey seems to have worked for me. Jeannie -- A friend walks in when everyone else walks out. Jeannie McReynolds Oregon Coast
Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
Reid: My greatest concern with the high PPM solutions is misuse. You'll note that in a previous message, the original company that manufactured what was likely MSP only sold the product to doctors... That this doctor then decided to retail it to others is besides the point! There are reasons for this. I consider companies that only sell these high PPM products to doctors ethical companies. I consider companies that do not, unethical, in that all the companies ( all that I have been able to find with similiar products ) do not claim that there is no risk to use. The fact of the matter is, there is no risk to use, provided that the instructions on the label are followed. Judging from the emails I've received over the last two years, there are many people out there using high PPM MSP as if it were electro-colloidal silver; undiluted, and taking amounts that certainly do produce a considerable risk, even if only a cosmetic one. I'm very certain that silver citrate is a bit different than many of the products out there, including the one in a recent post... But the statement that the colloidal silver was effective at 250 PPM + is frightening. I'm almost willing to bet that either someone didn't do the testing correctly, or that someone crossed their information somewhere. I certainly understand your point. If I were in a third world country without access to distilled water, I wouldn't hesitate to use what was at my disposal, including tap water if necessary. Have you considered having a comparison done on your product, to see how effective it really is ( once diluted to useable )? That might be revealing, and might either put your mind at ease, or give you something more to shoot for... Kind Regards, Jason PS: Yes, I certainly agree and know that high concentrations of CS can be made, but it is good to keep in mind that the nature of the products with high PPM are different! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMost effective CS generator....
Hi, I was hoping to get some advice on what you believe is the best CS generator availible? The SilverPuppy and SilverGen stir models seem to be up there, however, these various models from PrideComm which make CS and CG look excellent as well? Thanks for the advice, Patrick
RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS
I know little of zeta potential. I think it has to with the sum of the attractive and repulsive forces influencing colloids. In silver sols, it means the likleyhood of them combining into larger particles. Most commentators believe that the smaller particles are responsible for the anti-pathogenic qualities. The strength of that charge may also relate to the potency of a particle. Some commercial makers also believe that cooler water makes smaller particles. I use a HVAC generator, and when I run it for extended periods, the sol is golden-tan. Since it has been demonstrated that very low dilutions of fine-particle CS are effective against most pathogens, I prefer a lower concentration of small particles and large dosage volumes. Thank you for the description of your generator, I have added it to my collection. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Reid Harvey [mailto:pott...@wlink.com.np] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:55 PM To: silver list Subject: RE: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS Dear James-Osbourne: Holmes, I am not familiar with the means by which Microdyn and others in Mexico are making their concentrated CS, but am under the impression that they could be making by the same means that I do. Here are the basic components of my generator (courtesy of educate-yourself.org): 1. a two liter erlenmeyer flask with rubber stopper, through which is set a thermometer and the two electrodes 2. a double boiler into which the flask is set 3. an electrical converter which outputs 27volts DC During the process the temperature is kept just under boiling. Polarity is switched every minute, in order to prevent current runaway. This also minimizes the amount of silver oxide that collects on the electrodes. I generally run the generator for three or four hours which yields ~200ppm, but if one were to run it for a couple of days they'd get upto ppm in the thousands. At 200ppm it looks like glorious *mud* to reflected light, but put a strong light behind it and you'll see that it's still clear. I am unfamiliar with zeta potential so would welcome your observations on that. Reid James-Osbourne: Holmes, Are the very high concentrations made electolytically? If they are made by precipitation, the Zeta potential may be very different. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew Here.Hello ,
Did you try CS for it? ... I hope she is ok ;-) Ivan. -Original Message- From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2002 5:35 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I was going to try the local honey, but my wife found out and had a fit! Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've tried the local honey until I had hives - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Here.Hello , I've had extrordinary results from using local honey and licking my pollinated windshield in the morning. Ken At 06:53 AM 9/27/02 -0700, you wrote: 2 grams of MSM a day will alleviate pollen allergies in the majority of the population. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
