Re: CSPaxil
Paxil, depression and fish oil? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM
It would be interesting to see who set up that data collection site and who will have access to the information gathered, and for what purposes. Will the information be used to objectively evaluate, to promote or to debunk? Will the reports generated draw selectively on the data? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: C Creel [mailto:ccr...@eagle1st.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM Dear List Members, Columbia University is requesting information from patients and health care providers about promising CAM therapies for serious illness based upon your experiences. There are people who see this as a threat to the status quo and their own personal interests. They are well-organized and committed to not allowing CAM to become more widely accepted and available. You can help by going to Columbia University's website and submitting your experiences with CAM in treating serious illnesses. Serious illness is defined as illness that is long-term, usually does not resolve itself, and is seldom curable. If you have a story to share and the time to share it, please go to http://www.camreports.hs.columbia.edu/index.html Thanks! Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUnusually effective Pain Reliever
Although off-topic, I feel the following information may be of value to some list members who may not be subscribed to the Off-topic list. Recently, we completed some evaluation studies involving a multiplicity of pain relievers/controllers and systemic abatements. A significant number were quite effective, but many were marginal in their effectivenessespecially when addressing high-order pain presentations. From among the candidates, one emerged as superior (in our studies) as an address to both generalized systemic pain.and major pain associated with trauma-induced presentations. This substance, marginally-available through allopathic commerce channels, is identified as ABT-594. Although not of recent discovery, it has not (in our opinion) been sufficiently researched.for its excellent supportive characters when addressing continuous, high-order pain confrontations. This substance is a synthesized version of epibatidine (derived from a species of poison dart frog), a venom-type toxin exhibiting VERY powerful toxicity which is powerfully reflected in the nervous system of many mammals. Some list members may recall I made a post about two years ago, referring to another venom-derived pain killer..one extracted from a species of cone snail. An FDA approval is in Phase 3, at present. The commercial substance is identified as Ziconotide, and is considered several hundred times as effective as morphine and other opiate-derived drugs (or so evidence indicates)..when used as a pain abatement. Interested list members may, quite easily, conduct a general literature search on the Internet. However, for the lay person with limited technical expertise, I offer an easily-digested url for preliminary acquaintance. Http://www.abdn,ac.uk/chemistry/abt/ I hope this information is of some value to some of you. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCorrection
The url included in may last post should read http://www.abdn.ac.uk/chemistry/abt/ My apologies.geriatric gremlins, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM
What is CAM? ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:01:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM Dear List Members, Columbia University is requesting information from patients and health care providers about promising CAM therapies for serious illness based upon your experiences. There are people who see this as a threat to the status quo and their own personal interests. They are well-organized and committed to not allowing CAM to become more widely accepted and available. You can help by going to Columbia University's website and submitting your experiences with CAM in treating serious illnesses. Serious illness is defined as illness that is long-term, usually does not resolve itself, and is seldom curable. If you have a story to share and the time to share it, please go to http://www.camreports.hs.columbia.edu/index.html Thanks! Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
Re: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM
Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Marshall Tom Mary McFadden wrote: What is CAM? ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:01:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Columbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM Dear List Members, Columbia University is requesting information from patients and health care providers about promising CAM therapies for serious illness based upon your experiences. There are people who see this as a threat to the status quo and their own personal interests. They are well-organized and committed to not allowing CAM to become more widely accepted and available. You can help by going to Columbia University's website and submitting your experiences with CAM in treating serious illnesses. Serious illness is defined as illness that is long-term, usually does not resolve itself, and is seldom curable. If you have a story to share and the time to share it, please go to http://www.camreports.hs.columbia.edu/index.html Thanks! Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM
http://www.camreports.hs.columbia.edu/index.html its all in here!! - Original Message - From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: Re: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM What is CAM? ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:01:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM Dear List Members, Columbia University is requesting information from patients and health care providers about promising CAM therapies for serious illness based upon your experiences. There are people who see this as a threat to the status quo and their own personal interests. They are well-organized and committed to not allowing CAM to become more widely accepted and available. You can help by going to Columbia University's website and submitting your experiences with CAM in treating serious illnesses. Serious illness is defined as illness that is long-term, usually does not resolve itself, and is seldom curable. If you have a story to share and the time to share it, please go to http://www.camreports.hs.columbia.edu/index.html Thanks! Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here image/gif
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Tsk, tsk, Jack. It's real to him. - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! jeff wrote: hello my name is jeff im new to this list but i feel i have some interesting information to share does this group talk about all types of colloids like the production of gold and platinum as well?...from my research on the vibrations of these metals i have found that : silver is a female element gold is a male element platinum is neutral ** Well I found that combining all three yields transvestite. Get Real ! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
jeff wrote: hello my name is jeff im new to this list but i feel i have some interesting information to share does this group talk about all types of colloids like the production of gold and platinum as well?...from my research on the vibrations of these metals i have found that : silver is a female element gold is a male element platinum is neutral ** Well I found that combining all three yields transvestite. Get Real ! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnusually effective Pain Reliever
Thank you, Brooks; a most timely post. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Hi, I just noticed your post, and by the looks of it, I have finely found somebody who knows what real is! Thank goodness! I've been on a lost path now for almost 40 years. Please do tell, what exactly is real? I await your response with utmost anticipation and awe, as I wish to finely learn the truth of it all. Please email me in private if you do not think that others on the list are capable of handling this majestic revelation. Thank you in advance! Sincerely, James Allison - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Get Real ! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
You can buy it wholesale on the web. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Hi, I just noticed your post, and by the looks of it, I have finely found somebody who knows what real is! Thank goodness! I've been on a lost path now for almost 40 years. Please do tell, what exactly is real? I await your response with utmost anticipation and awe, as I wish to finely learn the truth of it all. Please email me in private if you do not think that others on the list are capable of handling this majestic revelation. Thank you in advance! Sincerely, James Allison - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Get Real ! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Is M-state Gold gay? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! jeff wrote: hello my name is jeff im new to this list but i feel i have some interesting information to share does this group talk about all types of colloids like the production of gold and platinum as well?...from my research on the vibrations of these metals i have found that : silver is a female element gold is a male element platinum is neutral ** Well I found that combining all three yields transvestite. Get Real ! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMS info and Silver...
Nancy: In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces twice daily. I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember what brand? When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe the process or machine you used? I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002... When did the writing first begin? Or at least, about when did the silver start? About August 2000? Can you confirm, just for the record, that the product used via IV was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics? Were they doing 5 ml infusions? I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a copy of a before and after MRI? And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS? Sorry about all the questions! An amazing journey indeed. Warm Regards, Jason Eaton
Re: CSMS info and Silver...
Nancy, I'm a little confused here. In one of your posts you wrote: I have had IV therapy recently. I HAD MS, it is gone. Originaly I just drank CS, It did wonders. It killed the MS mycoplaysma. I then began to drink the CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, and the myelin began to repair. I finally tried IV infusions and after five weekly IV drips, I no longer have any symptoms from the MS. Nancy When I talked to you on the phone I thought you said that the MRI showed no new lesions. I don't remember you saying anything about the old lesions healing. This is a very critical issue so I would appreciate you clearing this up. Thanks, Paul SilverMedicine.org silvermedic...@silvermedicine.org wrote:Nancy: In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces twice daily. I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember what brand? When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe the process or machine you used? I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002... When did the writing first begin? Or at least, about when did the silver start? About August 2000? Can you confirm, just for the record, that the product used via IV was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics? Were they doing 5 ml infusions? I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a copy of a before and after MRI? And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS? Sorry about all the questions! An amazing journey indeed. Warm Regards, Jason Eaton - Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
Re: CSMS info and Silver...
Sorry, folks... that was supposed to be going directly to Nancy... Thanks, Jason - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: CSMS info and Silver... Nancy, I'm a little confused here. In one of your posts you wrote: I have had IV therapy recently. I HAD MS, it is gone. Originaly I just drank CS, It did wonders. It killed the MS mycoplaysma. I then began to drink the CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, and the myelin began to repair. I finally tried IV infusions and after five weekly IV drips, I no longer have any symptoms from the MS. Nancy When I talked to you on the phone I thought you said that the MRI showed no new lesions. I don't remember you saying anything about the old lesions healing. This is a very critical issue so I would appreciate you clearing this up. Thanks, Paul SilverMedicine.org silvermedic...@silvermedicine.org wrote: Nancy: In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces twice daily. I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember what brand? When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe the process or machine you used? I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002... When did the writing first begin? Or at least, about when did the silver start? About August 2000? Can you confirm, just for the record, that the product used via IV was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics? Were they doing 5 ml infusions? I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a copy of a before and after MRI? And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS? Sorry about all the questions! An amazing journey indeed. Warm Regards, Jason Eaton -- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
Re: CSMS info and Silver...
- Original Message - From: SilverMedicine.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: CSMS info and Silver... Nancy: In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces twice daily. I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember what brand? I got it from Smith silver. I read a book entitled How to beat ms and what your doctor didn't tell you by Nadine Wooley. The author sells CS under the name Smith silver. It is made by equipment purchased from C S Prosystems 10 PPM When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe the process or machine you used? I purchased the Max pro system from C S Prosystems. I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002... When did the writing first begin? Or at least, about when did the silver start? About August 2000? That is correct Can you confirm, just for the record, that the product used via IV was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics? Were they doing 5 ml infusions? It is Argentum 23 that was used in the IV and they used the suggestions sent with the CS. I'm not sure about ml, I know the first infusion was 40cc by volume, the second was 50cc and the third was 60 cc I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a copy of a before and after MRI? `I have an MRI from 1990, my original diagnosis, I had another in 2/02. They said the could not compare to well because of all the equipment changes in 12 years. There were more lesions (I knew that since I was progressing rapidly), but there were no recent lesions. I had a third MRI 9/02. There again were no new lesions. And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS? I had symptoms since 1962 but I was not officially diagnosed until the MRI in 1990. Sorry about all the questions! Very Happy to help. I hope it can someday help others. An amazing journey indeed. That is an understatement. It has changed my life. Nancy Warm Regards, Jason Eaton
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
...Please do tell, what exactly is real? It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real. Does it hurt? asked the Rabbit. Sometimes, said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. When you are Real you don't mind being hurt. Does it happen all at once, like being wound up, he asked, or bit by bit? It doesn't happen all at once, said the Skin Horse. You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in your joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand. I suppose you are real? said the Rabbit. And then he wished he had not said it, for he thought the Skin Horse might be sensitive. But the Skin Horse only smiled. The Boy's Uncle made me Real, he said. That was a great many years ago; but once you are Real you can't become unreal again. It lasts for always. http://www.writepage.com/velvet.htm The Velveteen Rabbit by Margery Williams jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMS info and Silver...
Hi Paul, You are right, I have No new lesions. I have not been able to get anyone to compare the old MRI to the new one to prove the lesions are actually gone. I have all of the copies and I am still trying to get this verified. There hav;e definately been no new lesions for about 2 years. Nancy - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: CSMS info and Silver... Nancy, I'm a little confused here. In one of your posts you wrote: I have had IV therapy recently. I HAD MS, it is gone. Originaly I just drank CS, It did wonders. It killed the MS mycoplaysma. I then began to drink the CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, and the myelin began to repair. I finally tried IV infusions and after five weekly IV drips, I no longer have any symptoms from the MS. Nancy When I talked to you on the phone I thought you said that the MRI showed no new lesions. I don't remember you saying anything about the old lesions healing. This is a very critical issue so I would appreciate you clearing this up. Thanks, Paul SilverMedicine.org silvermedic...@silvermedicine.org wrote: Nancy: In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces twice daily. I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember what brand? When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe the process or machine you used? I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002... When did the writing first begin? Or at least, about when did the silver start? About August 2000? Can you confirm, just for the record, that the product used via IV was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics? Were they doing 5 ml infusions? I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a copy of a before and after MRI? And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS? Sorry about all the questions! An amazing journey indeed. Warm Regards, Jason Eaton -- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
