CSAcne in Japan -- Not

2003-04-19 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Regarding the acne treatment discussion:  I would just note that in
nearly 14 years of residence in Japan, I have not seen any case of acne,
and I teach in a university, where you might expect to see young foks
with skin problems if there are any.   Unless Asian Americans are
similarly devoid of acne, I would surmise that the Standard American
Diet (SAD) is a major culprit, and start with dietary changes, as others
have recommended.


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Re: CSRe: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire

2003-04-19 Thread Sharon

Thank You Catherine!
Sharon



Versed has a black box warning:

WARNING
Adults and Pediatrics:   Intravenous VERSED has been associated with
respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for
sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not
recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic encephalopathy
has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or
ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that
provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie,
pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and
size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation,
and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should
be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a
dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the procedure,
should monitor the patient throughout the procedure.

VERSED must never be used without individualization of dosage particularly
when used with other medications capable of producing central nervous system
depression. Prior to the intravenous administration of VERSED in any dose,
the immediate availability of oxygen, resuscitative drugs, age- and
size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation,
and skilled personnel for the maintenance of a patent airway and support of
ventilation should be ensured. Patients should be continuously monitored
with some means of detection for early signs of hypoventilation, airway
obstruction, or apnea, ie, pulse oximetry. Hypoventilation, airway
obstruction, and apnea can lead to hypoxia and/or cardiac arrest unless
effective countermeasures are taken immediately. The immediate availability
of specific reversal agents (flumazenil) is highly recommended. Vital signs
should continue to be monitored during the recovery period. Because
intravenous VERSED depresses respiration (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY ) and
because opioid agonists and other sedatives can add to this depression,
VERSED should be administered as an induction agent only by a person trained
in general anesthesia and should be used for sedation/anxiolysis/amnesia
only in the presence of personnel skilled in early detection of
hypoventilation, maintaining a patent airway and supporting ventilation.
When used for sedation/anxiolysis/amnesia, VERSED should always be titrated
slowly in adult or pediatric patients. Adverse hemodynamic events have been
reported in pediatric patients with cardiovascular instability; rapid
intravenous administration should also be avoided in this population (see
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION for complete information).

Serious cardiorespiratory adverse events have occurred after administration
of VERSED. These have included respiratory depression, airway obstruction,
oxygen desaturation, apnea, respiratory arrest and/or cardiac arrest,
sometimes resulting in death or permanent neurologic injury. There have also
been rare reports of hypotensive episodes requiring treatment during or
after diagnostic or surgical manipulations particularly in adult or
pediatric patients with hemodynamic instability. Hypotension occurred more
frequently in the sedation studies in patients premedicated with a narcotic.

Reactions such as agitation, involuntary movements (including tonic/clonic
movements and muscle tremor), hyperactivity and combativeness have been
reported in both adult and pediatric patients. These reactions may be due to
inadequate or excessive dosing or improper administration of VERSED;
however, consideration should be given to the possibility of cerebral
hypoxia or true paradoxical reactions. Should such reactions occur, the
response to each dose of VERSED and all other drugs, including local
anesthetics, should be evaluated before proceeding. Reversal of such
responses with flumazenil has been reported in pediatric patients.

Concomitant use of barbiturates, alcohol or other central nervous system
depressants may increase the risk of hypoventilation, airway obstruction,
desaturation, or apnea and may contribute to profound and/or prolonged drug
effect. Narcotic premedication also depresses the ventilatory response to
carbon dioxide stimulation.

Higher risk adult and pediatric surgical patients, elderly patients and
debilitated adult and pediatric patients require lower dosages, whether or
not concomitant sedating medications have been administered. Adult or
pediatric patients with COPD are unusually sensitive to the respiratory
depressant effect of VERSED. Pediatric and adult patients undergoing
procedures involving the upper airway such as upper endoscopy or dental
care, are particularly vulnerable to episodes of desaturation and
hypoventilation due to partial airway obstruction. Adult and pediatric
patients with chronic renal failure and patients with congestive heart
failure eliminate midazolam more slowly (see CLINICAL 

Re: CStesting ph levels

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
how do i test ph levels. do i have to buy a pool kit from the pool store.j

twll t...@alltel.net wrote:look at www.curezone.com for info on liver 
cleansing- Original Message - From: Jason Eaton To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:18 AMSubject: Re: 
CSwhats wrong with my colloidal silver linda
Jay: Be wary of the advice you hear from those who do not speak with the voice 
of experience.  Acne is primarily a condition caused by liver congestion.  
There is often a relationship between acne and acidic body conditions.  David's 
earlier advice was about the best I've seen. Taking colloidal silver will not 
cure severe acne.  It can help to control it. The first thing that needs to be 
done is a complete bowel cleanse.  You need to test the PH levels of the body, 
and if the ph level of your saliva is 6.5 or below, you need to correct this.  
You may find that your PH level is between 4.5 - 5.1.  When the PH level of the 
fluids in the soft tissues is more acidic than the normal range of your skin, 
no treatment will be successful. Your elimination system needs to be 
stimulated.  Your colon must be restored.  This alone can take a substantial 
amount of time.  Then, the liver must be restored to health.  Many of the 
supplements on the market today are not easy on the liver.  So taking mass 
supplements without a targeted purpose for each one can result in the exact 
opposite:  An increase in the exteriorization of the condition. Any established 
and chronic infection can be tough to wipe out, even when the conditions that 
cause the problem are reversed.  Colloidal silver may start to become more 
effective as the conditions in your body are corrected.  Keep in mind that 
chronic acne is cyclic.  Colloidal silver used topically can do two things:  
stop the spreading of bacteria on the surface of your skin, or increase the 
spread... Depending on how dry your skin is.  Better to make a very light gel 
with CS and aloe vera.  MSM added is beneficial. Taking extremely large 
quantities of colloidal silver ( orally ) may effectively treat the condition.  
However, this is not adviseable, as if you don't identify and correct the 
cause, you'll be setting yourself up for some severe problems.  Some very tough 
conditions, such, as nuero-syphilis, can take as much as 32 ounces of colloidal 
silver daily to cure. There are many avenu

bacteria problem (acne) 2 years.  i am hungry but i just take a look at food 
and nothing is appetizeing. foods i once liked don't even taste good. it's all 
just food. i have no food  i like any more.  its a battery operated colloidal 
silver generator. very basic. $40.00 i guess i will get a ppm tester. does 
price have anything to do with quality when buying a ppm tester.j  

e82...@aol.com wrote:Honey, it sounds like you are definitely overdoing it a 
tad on everything.  Just how long have you had this bacteria problem?  If you 
are using JUST CS and nothing else...like the peroxide in the CS...you should 
NOT have any acne problem.  The youghurt is not for the acne...it is to try and 
calm down your digestive system which at this point sounds like it's in deep 
trouble if you are not hungry.
If I were you (this is just if I were you and NOT to be considered medical 
advice) I would just back it down with the vitamins, grapefruit pills, etc. and 
just clean out my system and give it a rest.  You sound like you are bombarding 
your system right now and it's doing  what it should - violently react to 
everything.  I have this virus and I tried to knock it out of my system by 
taking ! about 10 oz of CS every day.  The only thing it did was make the virus 
mad and made me feel worse!!!  I stopped the CS for a few days and then 
gradually (and I do mean gradually) started taking one oz a day and now I feel 
better.  You need to remember the CS is just like a drug...but it is nature's 
drug...and you don't have to overdo it to get the benefits.  I, too, thought 
that more was betterNO it it no
How are you making your CS?  What kind of generator are you using?  Is it 
electric or battery?  The battery ones tend to get a bit weak and your mixture 
would therefore be weak also.  I use the Silver Generator from Silver Puppy.  
That is the best.  I also spent about $20 some dollars and bought a PPM tester 
(Hanna) off Ebay.  Now I don't have to guess my strengthI test it.  
I definitely would recommend stopping the peroxide immediately.  Make up a 
brand new batch of CS right now and throw the o! ld batches away.  They are not 
doing you any good and maybe they are harming you.  You are not supposed to 
ingest stuff like peroxide and that could possibly be causing your problems.  
Hey, it's worth a try, yes?  This way you can eliminate everything and then 
very gradually start adding things back to your body gradually...
What originally started this bacteria thing anyway?  Was it a cut or 
something like that on your face...or are you just being 

Re: CShow do i properly clean my colloidal silver jar

2003-04-19 Thread Sammark4
I use over-the-counter hydrogen peroxide to clean my silver wires and my 
brewing glass between batches.  The silver that's plated-out on the glass 
dissolves in a fizz of bubbles.  Then I rinse the glass and the silver 
wires three times each in distilled water before starting over.  This works 
very well for me.  The peroxide is the best thing I've found to get the 
plating off.

Laura

In a message dated 4/18/03 9:44:43 AM Central Daylight Time, 
t...@silvergen.com writes:

 Hi Steve,
  
  I agree with you.  However, if one gets any silver plating on the vessel, 
it
  forms a conductive path and can allow current to flow around the periphery
  or the bottom of the jar at the same time it's flowing through the water.


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Re: CSAcne in Japan -- Not

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
i have always noticed that all asians and japanese and chinese, etc. aren't 
overweight ( except sumo wrestlers) are healthy and don't have nearly as many 
problems as us stupid americans and there much smarter. maybe i should move to 
japan.j 

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:Regarding the acne 
treatment discussion: I would just note that in
nearly 14 years of residence in Japan, I have not seen any case of acne,
and I teach in a university, where you might expect to see young foks
with skin problems if there are any. Unless Asian Americans are
similarly devoid of acne, I would surmise that the Standard American
Diet (SAD) is a major culprit, and start with dietary changes, as others
have recommended.


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... ohhh no...

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
this is what i got from that link.  We're sorry, the page you're trying to 
reach is temporarily unavailable or the page may no longer exist. 
can you redirect me.j

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:Hi Christine, 
I'm getting good results fro the Godzilla thing too. 
I've discovered something similar and which seems to double the effect, 
This electrical device is used by Chinese accupuncturists to attach an
elect. charge to the needles inserted.
It emits a pulsating charge. when turned all the way up, it will make
you jump across the room, but it is very tolerable when low. 
I'm using this on the ankle arteries, while the godzilla is on the
wrist, and I have not looked, or felt this well in many moons.
there is a person in that group who will make these godzillas. Here is
the address; I'm not affiliated, blah, blah.
Also doing the CS and fast walking with the Godzilla to stir the blood. 
http://photo...@bizland.com/godzilla 


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CSthanks

2003-04-19 Thread tomy thomson
Hi, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your help and advice on 
building my own generator, have just made my first batch, it was very cool 
watching the bubbles forming and the wisp coming from the other wire just like 
you all said it would,thanks again,tomy


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Re: CSCatherine..Re: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire

2003-04-19 Thread John Osowiecki
Catherine,

Absolutely agreed, Versed can be a very dangerous sedation.  However, I was
referring to oral (not IV) versed, given in a clinical hospital setting, in
a room equipped with a respirator and an anesthesiologist. Depending on the
child, catheterization can be VERY scary and traumatizing, and in those
cases, I have seen versed to be very helpful. I have worked hard to gain my
daughters trust through all these invasive procedures she has had in her
short life, and she knows I will always be honest with her about what's
going to hurt, taste bad, pinch, etc.and have always supported her
in screaming or squeezing tight if she needs to get through the pain.  I'm
blessed that I have been able to teach her these other coping skills, and we
have been able to stay away from pre-sedation with versed, but I believe
that has come from  structure and lots of experience..which most people
don't have .  It's very scary for a 6 year old, who has never been
hospitalized, to lay on a cold table with a big machine over their head, and
have a catheter put in their urethra..even if mom and dad are right
there holding thier hands and supporting them. in such cases, versed
removing the memory can be beneficial.

Are you familiar with any supplements that can safely be used to calm before
a procedure like this, without causing drug interactions with the dyes they
use for a VCUG?  My biggest concern about using something like that is that
the doctors and anesthesiologists aren't familiar with it, and wouldn't know
how to treat should something interact or cause a problem.  Versed (when
used with competent physicians in the proper setting) can be safe, however,
I'm pleased that you sent that information.the biggest part of
safety, is informed parents.  As we all know..doctors aren't perfect.

On a little side note, I had a funny dream last night.  I was running into
the bank, and saw an old van with a logo and phone number on it for
Catherine Creel, and Malcolm Stebbinstreat from the street.  I was
stunned and searched for you...ultimately finding you sitting
together over a cup of coffee and donuts at Dunkin Donuts.  So very odd how
the brain works..and yes..very broken sleep last night with my
ill daughter...amazing the dreams that come out of sleep deprivation.

Any suggestions for feeling well rested on little sleep  ~:-}

Have a wonderful day,
God Bless,
Christiane
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From: C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:20 PM
Subject: CSRe: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire


 Versed has a black box warning:

 WARNING
 Adults and Pediatrics:   Intravenous VERSED has been associated with
 respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for
 sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not
 recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic
encephalopathy
 has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or
 ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that
 provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie,
 pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and
 size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation,
 and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should
 be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a
 dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the
procedure,
 should monitor the patient throughout the procedure.

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Re: CScolloidal silver mixture

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
i am gonna start with 10 ounces of colloidal silver. then i will put 5 ounces 
of aloe vera. then i will put 1 ounce of dmso. and then i will put 1 ounce of 
msm. is this a good mix. any ideas.jay


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CSMolo-Cure

2003-04-19 Thread Robb Allen
Hi...does anyone have any first hand knowledge of Molo-cure 
AMP??..This seems to be a very interesting product 
http://www.molocure.com
Robb


Re: CS the Godzilla machine... ohhh no...

2003-04-19 Thread alltogethernow
The best I can offer is to go to http://yahoo.com and put the
microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask
V to provide the link. (he sells them)


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Re: CSacne, zinc, diet...

2003-04-19 Thread Jack Dayton
wow. i have a lot of white spots on my nails. i've been taking zinc for 1
week now. maybe i will get some results and hanneke is working with me and
my diet. thanks for all the help.
j


Jay, for a male who has reached maturity, a daily
dose of zinc, about 30mg, is very important for
prostate health (just to mention one thing),
there are many other reasons to be taking
this important mineral supplement.

Jack



Re: CSRe acne treatments/Wallach

2003-04-19 Thread TJ Garland
Direct quote- His book has many abbreviations and sentence fragments after 
the first couple chapters(after you learn the abbrev. and his lingo). 
Iassumed that fast food means ALL McD, Hardees, Wendys, etc.


TJ Garland, CMO supplier
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From: Roman r_...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe acne treatments/Wallach
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 23:34:44 -0500

While acne can be related to EFA imbalance (and I've seen reports about 
benefits
from supplementing with EFA's from people on Dr. Stoll's discussion board 
--
http://askwaltstollmd.com), I am certain that saturated fat is NOT the (or 
even

a) cause.

 He recommends- Eliminate fast foods, sugar, and other sat. fats.

Are you quoting him? The sentence doesn't make much sense.

Roman


TJ Garland wrote:

 DR. Wallach says that acne is a deficiency of EFA's along with too much
 intake of sat. fat. He recommends- Eliminate fast foods, sugar, and 
other

 sat. fats. Look for wheat milk or soy allergies. (Do pulse test). Use
 betaine Hcl(which I recommend for everyone over 40)-take flaxseed oil 1 
tbsp

 b.i.d.- lots vit A, B6, Zinc. UV light may also help.  From LET'S PLAY
 DOCTOR


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Re: CSCatherine..Re: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire

2003-04-19 Thread C Creel
Dear Christiane,


  You said:

Absolutely agreed, Versed can be a very dangerous sedation.  However, I
was
referring to oral (not IV) versed, given in a clinical hospital setting, in
a room equipped with a respirator and an anesthesiologist. Depending on the
child, catheterization can be VERY scary and traumatizing, and in those
cases, I have seen versed to be very helpful.


**  The monograph on oral Versed (liquid) reads exactly the same as the IV
one I provided.   I understand your concerns but I have to be really honest
here.  I'd much rather risk my child being frightened than take the chances
on a drug like Versed that had enough severe adverse reactions, including
death, to warrant an FDA Black Box Warning.  But please understand, this is
my opinion.  You or others may disagree.


   I would think it would be scarier yet to experience something and yet
have no memory of it when you KNOW you were going to experience something.
I also am concerned about the effects of a substance like this on the
immature, developing brain of a child.


  You said:


 I have worked hard to gain my
daughters trust through all these invasive procedures she has had in her
short life, and she knows I will always be honest with her about what's
going to hurt, taste bad, pinch, etc.and have always supported her
in screaming or squeezing tight if she needs to get through the pain.  I'm
blessed that I have been able to teach her these other coping skills, and we
have been able to stay away from pre-sedation with versed, but I believe
that has come from  structure and lots of experience..which most people
don't have .  It's very scary for a 6 year old, who has never been
hospitalized, to lay on a cold table with a big machine over their head, and
have a catheter put in their urethra..even if mom and dad are right
there holding thier hands and supporting them. in such cases, versed
removing the memory can be beneficial.



   ** Honestly, I think it is okay for a child or person to be frightened.
We have a habit, in the American culture, of trying to remove all
unpleasantness.  We're so committed to doing this that we will give a
dangerous drug like Versed to accomplish it.


   **  You won't find a supplement that will go to the extremes of Versed
but
magnesium works well to relax.  It also relaxes muscles.  If I wanted to use
a pharmaceutical I'd go with a much milder one.


 You said:


On a little side note, I had a funny dream last night.  I was running into
the bank, and saw an old van with a logo and phone number on it for
Catherine Creel, and Malcolm Stebbinstreat from the street.  I was
stunned and searched for you...ultimately finding you sitting
together over a cup of coffee and donuts at Dunkin Donuts.  So very odd how
the brain works..and yes..very broken sleep last night with my
ill daughter...amazing the dreams that come out of sleep deprivation.


  **  That's a pretty amusing dream.  Malcolm, did you take notes?  I forgot
what we talked about.  Darn!  We probably solved all the previously unsolved
medical
mysteries ;-)

Regards,
Catherine

Any suggestions for feeling well rested on little sleep  ~:-}





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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
i did that and the search engine of course said we had no luck yatta yatta, 
blah, blah, and so on. but this is a GROUP NAME?  if so i will go and search 
through every last and single group that yahoo sponsors until the i search 
through every last website ever made. well maybe not all that but you get the 
idea. thanks for helping me so far...

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:The best I can offer is to go to 
http://yahoo.com and put the
microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask
V to provide the link. (he sells them)


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread alltogethernow
Yes, that is the group name. Don't know why it doesn't show up. try
http://yahoogroups.com and then search from there. HIV and HCV are
mentioned in the group introduction as well. 


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread alltogethernow
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice


alltogether...@webtv.net 
wrote:http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... HOORAY!!!!

2003-04-19 Thread jay ice
THANKS. I WAS JUST SEARCHING WHAT YOU GAVE ME. whoa caps still on. i was 
searching everything even putting dashes and spaces in between each word with 
no luck. so thanks. i'm just computer Elliterate. if it weren't for acne i 
would have never learned how to work the internet. guess something good came 
out of it.jay

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller


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Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread C Creel
www.yahoogroups.com


  Then enter microelecttricitygermkiller in the box provided to look for a 
group.  If you haven't signed up for a Yahoo Groups account you'll have to do 
that first.

Regards,
Catherine


i did that and the search engine of course said we had no luck yatta yatta, 
blah, blah, and so on. but this is a GROUP NAME?  if so i will go and search 
through every last and single group that yahoo sponsors until the i search 
through every last website ever made. well maybe not all that but you get the 
idea. thanks for helping me so far...


alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:
  The best I can offer is to go to http://yahoo.com and put the
  microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask
  V to provide the link. (he sells them)


CSRe: the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...

2003-04-19 Thread jrowland
 If you haven't signed up for a Yahoo Groups account 
 you'll have to do that first...

You only need to sign up if you want to access Yahoo groups' resources.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
jr


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