CSAcne in Japan -- Not
Regarding the acne treatment discussion: I would just note that in nearly 14 years of residence in Japan, I have not seen any case of acne, and I teach in a university, where you might expect to see young foks with skin problems if there are any. Unless Asian Americans are similarly devoid of acne, I would surmise that the Standard American Diet (SAD) is a major culprit, and start with dietary changes, as others have recommended. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire
Thank You Catherine! Sharon Versed has a black box warning: WARNING Adults and Pediatrics: Intravenous VERSED has been associated with respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic encephalopathy has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie, pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation, and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the procedure, should monitor the patient throughout the procedure. VERSED must never be used without individualization of dosage particularly when used with other medications capable of producing central nervous system depression. Prior to the intravenous administration of VERSED in any dose, the immediate availability of oxygen, resuscitative drugs, age- and size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation, and skilled personnel for the maintenance of a patent airway and support of ventilation should be ensured. Patients should be continuously monitored with some means of detection for early signs of hypoventilation, airway obstruction, or apnea, ie, pulse oximetry. Hypoventilation, airway obstruction, and apnea can lead to hypoxia and/or cardiac arrest unless effective countermeasures are taken immediately. The immediate availability of specific reversal agents (flumazenil) is highly recommended. Vital signs should continue to be monitored during the recovery period. Because intravenous VERSED depresses respiration (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY ) and because opioid agonists and other sedatives can add to this depression, VERSED should be administered as an induction agent only by a person trained in general anesthesia and should be used for sedation/anxiolysis/amnesia only in the presence of personnel skilled in early detection of hypoventilation, maintaining a patent airway and supporting ventilation. When used for sedation/anxiolysis/amnesia, VERSED should always be titrated slowly in adult or pediatric patients. Adverse hemodynamic events have been reported in pediatric patients with cardiovascular instability; rapid intravenous administration should also be avoided in this population (see DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION for complete information). Serious cardiorespiratory adverse events have occurred after administration of VERSED. These have included respiratory depression, airway obstruction, oxygen desaturation, apnea, respiratory arrest and/or cardiac arrest, sometimes resulting in death or permanent neurologic injury. There have also been rare reports of hypotensive episodes requiring treatment during or after diagnostic or surgical manipulations particularly in adult or pediatric patients with hemodynamic instability. Hypotension occurred more frequently in the sedation studies in patients premedicated with a narcotic. Reactions such as agitation, involuntary movements (including tonic/clonic movements and muscle tremor), hyperactivity and combativeness have been reported in both adult and pediatric patients. These reactions may be due to inadequate or excessive dosing or improper administration of VERSED; however, consideration should be given to the possibility of cerebral hypoxia or true paradoxical reactions. Should such reactions occur, the response to each dose of VERSED and all other drugs, including local anesthetics, should be evaluated before proceeding. Reversal of such responses with flumazenil has been reported in pediatric patients. Concomitant use of barbiturates, alcohol or other central nervous system depressants may increase the risk of hypoventilation, airway obstruction, desaturation, or apnea and may contribute to profound and/or prolonged drug effect. Narcotic premedication also depresses the ventilatory response to carbon dioxide stimulation. Higher risk adult and pediatric surgical patients, elderly patients and debilitated adult and pediatric patients require lower dosages, whether or not concomitant sedating medications have been administered. Adult or pediatric patients with COPD are unusually sensitive to the respiratory depressant effect of VERSED. Pediatric and adult patients undergoing procedures involving the upper airway such as upper endoscopy or dental care, are particularly vulnerable to episodes of desaturation and hypoventilation due to partial airway obstruction. Adult and pediatric patients with chronic renal failure and patients with congestive heart failure eliminate midazolam more slowly (see CLINICAL
Re: CStesting ph levels
how do i test ph levels. do i have to buy a pool kit from the pool store.j twll t...@alltel.net wrote:look at www.curezone.com for info on liver cleansing- Original Message - From: Jason Eaton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:18 AMSubject: Re: CSwhats wrong with my colloidal silver linda Jay: Be wary of the advice you hear from those who do not speak with the voice of experience. Acne is primarily a condition caused by liver congestion. There is often a relationship between acne and acidic body conditions. David's earlier advice was about the best I've seen. Taking colloidal silver will not cure severe acne. It can help to control it. The first thing that needs to be done is a complete bowel cleanse. You need to test the PH levels of the body, and if the ph level of your saliva is 6.5 or below, you need to correct this. You may find that your PH level is between 4.5 - 5.1. When the PH level of the fluids in the soft tissues is more acidic than the normal range of your skin, no treatment will be successful. Your elimination system needs to be stimulated. Your colon must be restored. This alone can take a substantial amount of time. Then, the liver must be restored to health. Many of the supplements on the market today are not easy on the liver. So taking mass supplements without a targeted purpose for each one can result in the exact opposite: An increase in the exteriorization of the condition. Any established and chronic infection can be tough to wipe out, even when the conditions that cause the problem are reversed. Colloidal silver may start to become more effective as the conditions in your body are corrected. Keep in mind that chronic acne is cyclic. Colloidal silver used topically can do two things: stop the spreading of bacteria on the surface of your skin, or increase the spread... Depending on how dry your skin is. Better to make a very light gel with CS and aloe vera. MSM added is beneficial. Taking extremely large quantities of colloidal silver ( orally ) may effectively treat the condition. However, this is not adviseable, as if you don't identify and correct the cause, you'll be setting yourself up for some severe problems. Some very tough conditions, such, as nuero-syphilis, can take as much as 32 ounces of colloidal silver daily to cure. There are many avenu bacteria problem (acne) 2 years. i am hungry but i just take a look at food and nothing is appetizeing. foods i once liked don't even taste good. it's all just food. i have no food i like any more. its a battery operated colloidal silver generator. very basic. $40.00 i guess i will get a ppm tester. does price have anything to do with quality when buying a ppm tester.j e82...@aol.com wrote:Honey, it sounds like you are definitely overdoing it a tad on everything. Just how long have you had this bacteria problem? If you are using JUST CS and nothing else...like the peroxide in the CS...you should NOT have any acne problem. The youghurt is not for the acne...it is to try and calm down your digestive system which at this point sounds like it's in deep trouble if you are not hungry. If I were you (this is just if I were you and NOT to be considered medical advice) I would just back it down with the vitamins, grapefruit pills, etc. and just clean out my system and give it a rest. You sound like you are bombarding your system right now and it's doing what it should - violently react to everything. I have this virus and I tried to knock it out of my system by taking ! about 10 oz of CS every day. The only thing it did was make the virus mad and made me feel worse!!! I stopped the CS for a few days and then gradually (and I do mean gradually) started taking one oz a day and now I feel better. You need to remember the CS is just like a drug...but it is nature's drug...and you don't have to overdo it to get the benefits. I, too, thought that more was betterNO it it no How are you making your CS? What kind of generator are you using? Is it electric or battery? The battery ones tend to get a bit weak and your mixture would therefore be weak also. I use the Silver Generator from Silver Puppy. That is the best. I also spent about $20 some dollars and bought a PPM tester (Hanna) off Ebay. Now I don't have to guess my strengthI test it. I definitely would recommend stopping the peroxide immediately. Make up a brand new batch of CS right now and throw the o! ld batches away. They are not doing you any good and maybe they are harming you. You are not supposed to ingest stuff like peroxide and that could possibly be causing your problems. Hey, it's worth a try, yes? This way you can eliminate everything and then very gradually start adding things back to your body gradually... What originally started this bacteria thing anyway? Was it a cut or something like that on your face...or are you just being
Re: CShow do i properly clean my colloidal silver jar
I use over-the-counter hydrogen peroxide to clean my silver wires and my brewing glass between batches. The silver that's plated-out on the glass dissolves in a fizz of bubbles. Then I rinse the glass and the silver wires three times each in distilled water before starting over. This works very well for me. The peroxide is the best thing I've found to get the plating off. Laura In a message dated 4/18/03 9:44:43 AM Central Daylight Time, t...@silvergen.com writes: Hi Steve, I agree with you. However, if one gets any silver plating on the vessel, it forms a conductive path and can allow current to flow around the periphery or the bottom of the jar at the same time it's flowing through the water. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAcne in Japan -- Not
i have always noticed that all asians and japanese and chinese, etc. aren't overweight ( except sumo wrestlers) are healthy and don't have nearly as many problems as us stupid americans and there much smarter. maybe i should move to japan.j Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:Regarding the acne treatment discussion: I would just note that in nearly 14 years of residence in Japan, I have not seen any case of acne, and I teach in a university, where you might expect to see young foks with skin problems if there are any. Unless Asian Americans are similarly devoid of acne, I would surmise that the Standard American Diet (SAD) is a major culprit, and start with dietary changes, as others have recommended. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... ohhh no...
this is what i got from that link. We're sorry, the page you're trying to reach is temporarily unavailable or the page may no longer exist. can you redirect me.j alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:Hi Christine, I'm getting good results fro the Godzilla thing too. I've discovered something similar and which seems to double the effect, This electrical device is used by Chinese accupuncturists to attach an elect. charge to the needles inserted. It emits a pulsating charge. when turned all the way up, it will make you jump across the room, but it is very tolerable when low. I'm using this on the ankle arteries, while the godzilla is on the wrist, and I have not looked, or felt this well in many moons. there is a person in that group who will make these godzillas. Here is the address; I'm not affiliated, blah, blah. Also doing the CS and fast walking with the Godzilla to stir the blood. http://photo...@bizland.com/godzilla -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
CSthanks
Hi, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your help and advice on building my own generator, have just made my first batch, it was very cool watching the bubbles forming and the wisp coming from the other wire just like you all said it would,thanks again,tomy - Yahoo! Mobile - Check compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.
Re: CSCatherine..Re: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire
Catherine, Absolutely agreed, Versed can be a very dangerous sedation. However, I was referring to oral (not IV) versed, given in a clinical hospital setting, in a room equipped with a respirator and an anesthesiologist. Depending on the child, catheterization can be VERY scary and traumatizing, and in those cases, I have seen versed to be very helpful. I have worked hard to gain my daughters trust through all these invasive procedures she has had in her short life, and she knows I will always be honest with her about what's going to hurt, taste bad, pinch, etc.and have always supported her in screaming or squeezing tight if she needs to get through the pain. I'm blessed that I have been able to teach her these other coping skills, and we have been able to stay away from pre-sedation with versed, but I believe that has come from structure and lots of experience..which most people don't have . It's very scary for a 6 year old, who has never been hospitalized, to lay on a cold table with a big machine over their head, and have a catheter put in their urethra..even if mom and dad are right there holding thier hands and supporting them. in such cases, versed removing the memory can be beneficial. Are you familiar with any supplements that can safely be used to calm before a procedure like this, without causing drug interactions with the dyes they use for a VCUG? My biggest concern about using something like that is that the doctors and anesthesiologists aren't familiar with it, and wouldn't know how to treat should something interact or cause a problem. Versed (when used with competent physicians in the proper setting) can be safe, however, I'm pleased that you sent that information.the biggest part of safety, is informed parents. As we all know..doctors aren't perfect. On a little side note, I had a funny dream last night. I was running into the bank, and saw an old van with a logo and phone number on it for Catherine Creel, and Malcolm Stebbinstreat from the street. I was stunned and searched for you...ultimately finding you sitting together over a cup of coffee and donuts at Dunkin Donuts. So very odd how the brain works..and yes..very broken sleep last night with my ill daughter...amazing the dreams that come out of sleep deprivation. Any suggestions for feeling well rested on little sleep ~:-} Have a wonderful day, God Bless, Christiane - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: CSRe: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire Versed has a black box warning: WARNING Adults and Pediatrics: Intravenous VERSED has been associated with respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic encephalopathy has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie, pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation, and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the procedure, should monitor the patient throughout the procedure. .. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal silver mixture
i am gonna start with 10 ounces of colloidal silver. then i will put 5 ounces of aloe vera. then i will put 1 ounce of dmso. and then i will put 1 ounce of msm. is this a good mix. any ideas.jay - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
CSMolo-Cure
Hi...does anyone have any first hand knowledge of Molo-cure AMP??..This seems to be a very interesting product http://www.molocure.com Robb
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... ohhh no...
The best I can offer is to go to http://yahoo.com and put the microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask V to provide the link. (he sells them) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, zinc, diet...
wow. i have a lot of white spots on my nails. i've been taking zinc for 1 week now. maybe i will get some results and hanneke is working with me and my diet. thanks for all the help. j Jay, for a male who has reached maturity, a daily dose of zinc, about 30mg, is very important for prostate health (just to mention one thing), there are many other reasons to be taking this important mineral supplement. Jack
Re: CSRe acne treatments/Wallach
Direct quote- His book has many abbreviations and sentence fragments after the first couple chapters(after you learn the abbrev. and his lingo). Iassumed that fast food means ALL McD, Hardees, Wendys, etc. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Roman r_...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe acne treatments/Wallach Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 23:34:44 -0500 While acne can be related to EFA imbalance (and I've seen reports about benefits from supplementing with EFA's from people on Dr. Stoll's discussion board -- http://askwaltstollmd.com), I am certain that saturated fat is NOT the (or even a) cause. He recommends- Eliminate fast foods, sugar, and other sat. fats. Are you quoting him? The sentence doesn't make much sense. Roman TJ Garland wrote: DR. Wallach says that acne is a deficiency of EFA's along with too much intake of sat. fat. He recommends- Eliminate fast foods, sugar, and other sat. fats. Look for wheat milk or soy allergies. (Do pulse test). Use betaine Hcl(which I recommend for everyone over 40)-take flaxseed oil 1 tbsp b.i.d.- lots vit A, B6, Zinc. UV light may also help. From LET'S PLAY DOCTOR -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: CSCatherine..Re: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire
Dear Christiane, You said: Absolutely agreed, Versed can be a very dangerous sedation. However, I was referring to oral (not IV) versed, given in a clinical hospital setting, in a room equipped with a respirator and an anesthesiologist. Depending on the child, catheterization can be VERY scary and traumatizing, and in those cases, I have seen versed to be very helpful. ** The monograph on oral Versed (liquid) reads exactly the same as the IV one I provided. I understand your concerns but I have to be really honest here. I'd much rather risk my child being frightened than take the chances on a drug like Versed that had enough severe adverse reactions, including death, to warrant an FDA Black Box Warning. But please understand, this is my opinion. You or others may disagree. I would think it would be scarier yet to experience something and yet have no memory of it when you KNOW you were going to experience something. I also am concerned about the effects of a substance like this on the immature, developing brain of a child. You said: I have worked hard to gain my daughters trust through all these invasive procedures she has had in her short life, and she knows I will always be honest with her about what's going to hurt, taste bad, pinch, etc.and have always supported her in screaming or squeezing tight if she needs to get through the pain. I'm blessed that I have been able to teach her these other coping skills, and we have been able to stay away from pre-sedation with versed, but I believe that has come from structure and lots of experience..which most people don't have . It's very scary for a 6 year old, who has never been hospitalized, to lay on a cold table with a big machine over their head, and have a catheter put in their urethra..even if mom and dad are right there holding thier hands and supporting them. in such cases, versed removing the memory can be beneficial. ** Honestly, I think it is okay for a child or person to be frightened. We have a habit, in the American culture, of trying to remove all unpleasantness. We're so committed to doing this that we will give a dangerous drug like Versed to accomplish it. ** You won't find a supplement that will go to the extremes of Versed but magnesium works well to relax. It also relaxes muscles. If I wanted to use a pharmaceutical I'd go with a much milder one. You said: On a little side note, I had a funny dream last night. I was running into the bank, and saw an old van with a logo and phone number on it for Catherine Creel, and Malcolm Stebbinstreat from the street. I was stunned and searched for you...ultimately finding you sitting together over a cup of coffee and donuts at Dunkin Donuts. So very odd how the brain works..and yes..very broken sleep last night with my ill daughter...amazing the dreams that come out of sleep deprivation. ** That's a pretty amusing dream. Malcolm, did you take notes? I forgot what we talked about. Darn! We probably solved all the previously unsolved medical mysteries ;-) Regards, Catherine Any suggestions for feeling well rested on little sleep ~:-} -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
i did that and the search engine of course said we had no luck yatta yatta, blah, blah, and so on. but this is a GROUP NAME? if so i will go and search through every last and single group that yahoo sponsors until the i search through every last website ever made. well maybe not all that but you get the idea. thanks for helping me so far... alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:The best I can offer is to go to http://yahoo.com and put the microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask V to provide the link. (he sells them) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour PJAY - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
Yes, that is the group name. Don't know why it doesn't show up. try http://yahoogroups.com and then search from there. HIV and HCV are mentioned in the group introduction as well. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour PJAY - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... HOORAY!!!!
THANKS. I WAS JUST SEARCHING WHAT YOU GAVE ME. whoa caps still on. i was searching everything even putting dashes and spaces in between each word with no luck. so thanks. i'm just computer Elliterate. if it weren't for acne i would have never learned how to work the internet. guess something good came out of it.jay alltogether...@webtv.net wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/microelectricitygermkiller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour PJAY - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CS the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
www.yahoogroups.com Then enter microelecttricitygermkiller in the box provided to look for a group. If you haven't signed up for a Yahoo Groups account you'll have to do that first. Regards, Catherine i did that and the search engine of course said we had no luck yatta yatta, blah, blah, and so on. but this is a GROUP NAME? if so i will go and search through every last and single group that yahoo sponsors until the i search through every last website ever made. well maybe not all that but you get the idea. thanks for helping me so far... alltogether...@webtv.net wrote: The best I can offer is to go to http://yahoo.com and put the microelecttricitygermkiller in the search engine. After you join, ask V to provide the link. (he sells them)
CSRe: the Godzilla machine... garsh darnit...
If you haven't signed up for a Yahoo Groups account you'll have to do that first... You only need to sign up if you want to access Yahoo groups' resources. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com