Re: CSFasting Beck protocol update..
Nancy inquires: Mike- Are you using the Super thumpy plans to build your mag pulser? Yep. I think Super Thumpy describes the particular hack that uses party strobes from Radio Shack as their basis. Previous designs were apparently based on canibalizing photoflash adaptors. Of course there are also units, like the one from Sota, that are built from the ground up as magnetic pulsers. Quite nice. All my parts are here. Now I need to start building my coil assembly. I never seem to have the money to buy these things and am afraid when I do they won't be available anymore. All the more reason to link up with (or become) somebody with a little electronic experience. Then you can build 'em whether they're available commercially or not. You can learn a lot building some kits from Ramsey Electronics and similar outfits. I also have unresolved questions about which of the available options really works into the best treatment between Beck, Rife, Dr. West's lymphology which has been discussed recently on the Beck N Stuff board, etc. All these seem to have overlapping effects but I don't know which is most effective for the money. For that we need other people's input. Anybody??? Has anyone tried everything and had an opinion on which protocol gets best results for the money? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGlandular Fever
Hi there jack, Never too late - thanks so much for such ain informative reply. I have passed this all along to the lady in question and hopefully we'll have some good feedback soon. Yvonne :o) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
It is being shown that memory itself is holographic and nonlocal. If true, it would stand to reason that it would stay wherever it was placed by whatever means was used to place it there...but since it's nonlocal, could be accessed from anywhere... placing memory only tells you where you left your doorway to it, not where it is. The doorway could be descibed as 'intent'...as in, This is where I'm going to look for what is all around me So, it's not just the water that holds intent and memory no matter where you think you put it, it's the entire omniverse. But in the onmiverse, there is no discrimination as to access. If you truely believe it's lost...it is...to you, because your true intent is to 'not' find it. A person who is fully aware of their true intent would be known as a Avatar or the equivalent. A great deal of misery in this world results from people thinking that what they believe isn't valid unless everyone else believes it and trying to force others into to confirming their reality to themselves. In a sense, science serves the role of an authority in charge of uniformity of belief, yet, the further it looks into reality, the more strange and non uniform it looks...if that's the true intent of the science being done. Otherwise, it just places walls of impossibility around perception. Perception is both projective and receptive. [and loaded with bootstraps and catch 22s] That's OK as long as nobody tries to burn anyone at the stake for looking past the walls. Most people believe they can burn. Natural laws are what we agree upon as being true, thus tend to confirm to each other and define that as sanity and the 'rules of our very existance'. Natural laws define a context for a definition of what shared reality is but don't define what it really is. [Brains aren't equipped to go beyond the context of thier existance..ie: You can't think in those terms and stay around if you succeed as long as you believe that brains think and that's where you and your memories exist.] Those who dare to look find that even rocks are not set in stone. But discovering 'that' places the very definition of 'self' into question. How would you like to be the scientist that proves he doesn't exist, simply because the definition of existance he used as a benchmark is too limited to hold the reality of it. What if he proved to YOU that you don't exist as well? Scary, huh? Don't look there! Challenging authority always changes your reality and threatens the shared one with change. Prepare to die..if you believe you can. Here's the rub. If you're looking for confirmation from others, everything appears to work the way they and you think it does. If not looking for confirmation...nothing does. Who dares to doubt their own self validating reality? Proof is defined as the point at which inquiry stops. Gods only power is the ability to fool oneself and believe it. Who here does not use it? C'mon now..tell the truth, you lie to yourself all the time, right? No? So, you actually BELIEVE you? [Why yes! Undeniably!, She denied. ] ..and if you are to believe you, your mind cannot change? [But does anyway...usually unnoticed, *another neat trick*] Don't you think you are wrong? [Of course not!] Just who do you think you ARE!? [The one who isn't wrong] You must believe something exists before its existance can be denied. [Ode Coyote] Consider this. Water structuring is not real, but then, neither is the reality it doesn't exist in. Public opinion makes the world go round...it was flat once upon a time , you know. [I wonder how many people actually fell off before it changed?] LOL I sometimes wonder if the near universal symbology of reflection and it's relationship to silver has something to do with its effectiveness. Ode At 08:06 AM 8/10/2003 -0700, you wrote: Greetings to all members, The Universe watches and waits. Those who conform to Natural Laws, seeking holistic truths, are the Universe's proteges. Why Water Clumping Does Not Support Homeopathic Theory Stephen Barrett, M.D. On November 7, 2001, with the teaser, homeopathy isn't all hokum, New Scientist magazine's Web site published an article that began: It is a chance discovery so unexpected it defies belief and threatens to reignite debate about whether there is a scientific basis for thinking homeopathic medicines really work... http://lewfh.tripod.com/bioresonanthomeostasisandwellbeing/ The article to which this referred was published in Chemical Communications, the journal of the Royal Society of Chemistry [2]. Since the article does not mention homeopathy, I asked one of its authors (Kurt E. Geckeler, M.D., Ph.D.) whether the study implied anything about it. He replied: As you stated correctly, the word homeopathy is not mentioned in the original paper and the study itself has nothing to do with it. It only states that on dilution (up to mM conc.) of a number of substances in water, an
CSDMSO - MSM
Shortly after cts became popular -- that was somewhere in the mid '70s, i think, vitamin C was suggested as a way to alleviate the pain, and still is. Not as an analgesic, but as a way to repair the damage. Hi Jack ~ I will keep this info in the back of my mind for future reference. Prior to the zapper, I couldn't do an hour's worth of physical wrist labor without going numb. Since the zapper, I've hand removed 3-4' tall weeds for 3-4 hours at a time, around 1000' of electric fencing on a hillside, 3-4 feet wide on each side of the electric fence...didn't want the weeds coming back and the weedeater and I would've died trying to stand up and do this kind of weeding - plus it would've regrown and created more work again... If the exercise is helping, and it is not too inconvenient, go swimming -- it's a great way to strengthen the back muscles; been there, did that in the '50s ( in P'gh in Feb. at the YMCA ( I tried the YW, no luck. ): -) I know this well, that's what has kept my back in shape for so many years, but the 'lack' of regularly swimming is why it's declining (gymnastics and ATC'ing is what 'killed' my back)... Am a swimmer from birth, an ex-olympic hopeful, ex-beach lifeguard. Still have my kick boards, paddles, goggles, etc. You are very correct, swimming is the best exercise for the back. I either need to put in a lap pool or drive a minimum hour round trip to a fitness facility that has a pool (neither do I want to do - maintenance a pool or drive). I'll see if there are any YM or YWCA's around, but I don't think so. The so-called health clubs, i.e., Holiday Spa, LA Fitness, Jack LaLanes that have pools have been a problem in the past...more like going to a 'bar'...guys come and stand in the middle of my lane, while I'm obviously swimming, who want to 'chat'!! :-( Local high schools have pools, but no open swim time for people in the neighborhood... One of those cases where 'I' know what I should be doing...kicking with the kick board is excellent for the low back and I love it. Need to kick myself in the rump, tho sometimes easier said than done. I'll call around this week tho, especially with the 112 degree heat today, swimming would be refreshing...Thanks for the kind kick in the pants Jack. :-) Julie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
Dear Ode Coyote (Ken) I have read a lot of dribble in my long life, but this post is a crowning achievement in nothing. Where do you find such foolishness? Ole Bob Ode Coyote wrote: It is being shown that memory itself is holographic and nonlocal. If true, it would stand to reason that it would stay wherever it was placed by whatever means was used to place it there...but since it's nonlocal, could be accessed from anywhere... placing memory only tells you where you left your doorway to it, not where it is. The doorway could be descibed as 'intent'...as in, This is where I'm going to look for what is all around me So, it's not just the water that holds intent and memory no matter where you think you put it, it's the entire omniverse. But in the onmiverse, there is no discrimination as to access. If you truely believe it's lost...it is...to you, because your true intent is to 'not' find it. A person who is fully aware of their true intent would be known as a Avatar or the equivalent. The rest removed to conserve bandwidth. Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
I wrote a very interesting reply to this post. Just as I was about to send it, the program refused to send it and then shut down so my post was lost. It appears that the universe does not want you to know what I was going to say. Sorry... Dan Ole Bob wrote: Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:59:45 Dear Ode Coyote (Ken) I have read a lot of dribble in my long life, but this post is a crowning achievement in nothing. Where do you find such foolishness? Ole Bob Ode Coyote wrote: It is being shown that memory itself is holographic and nonlocal. If true, it would stand to reason that it would stay wherever it was placed by whatever means was used to place it there...but since it's nonlocal, could be accessed from anywhere... placing memory only tells you where you left your doorway to it, not where it is. The doorway could be descibed as 'intent'... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
Easy,Bob... Drop the attitude and nobody gets hurt... Chuck Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:57:11 -0500, Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Dear Ode Coyote (Ken) I have read a lot of dribble in my long life, but this post is a crowning achievement in nothing. Where do you find such foolishness? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
Hi Dan, Don't worry! Craig just tried to tell me that Ode has some wisdom that I should know. The problem is I know the author of that wisdom and avoid it like the plague,. Visit my web site, www.yeshuaiscoming.info. It cannot be found if you use Microsoft MSN browser. Any other will find it. Ole Bob Dan Nave wrote: I wrote a very interesting reply to this post. Just as I was about to send it, the program refused to send it and then shut down so my post was lost. It appears that the universe does not want you to know what I was going to say. Sorry... Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
cking...@nycap.rr.com 8/11/03 12:55 PM Wrote: Easy,Bob... Drop the attitude and nobody gets hurt... Chuck Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:57:11 -0500, Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Dear Ode Coyote (Ken) I have read a lot of dribble in my long life, but this post is a crowning achievement in nothing. Where do you find such foolishness? *** Well now Bob I wuz a wunderin the same thing when I red that stuff, and kinda figgered that Ode Coyote ran offa bad batch oh that Kickapoo Joy Juice, but he decided to try ah little anyhow an thats what happened -- man I'll tell you that stuff has a real kick, but he should be OK in a week er 2. And you folks thought he was just making DW? :-) The preceeding gave my spell checker fits. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCat Tumour advice please
Bruce Stenulson makes a cat zapper at stenul...@amigo.net I think his web page is http://home.amigo.net/stenulson/althealth.htm TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Philippa Steve pip.st...@xtra.co.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCat Tumour advice please Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 13:06:05 +1200 Thank you everyone who replied to my query about the cat tumour. I have made notes of your recommendations and will try Tuppence on the garlic. His only inside drink is undiluted cs - which he seems to love. Someone offline suggested buying the DMSO book, which I have just ordered. I did zap him once with the Dr Hulda Clark homemade zapper. I wasn't sure if he was receiving any benefit because his fur is quite thick and it was awkward having to hold him for the duration of the treatment. I had thought of trying to get a couple of copper sheets and hooking them up to the machine and placing under him. Until the DMSO and black salve arrive I will keep on with the cs treatments. You have all given me hope that this is a beatable problem. Pip -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: CSCS photos before and after H2O2 added
Well, I expect that yeshua may be a bit more like ODE than you'd be comfortable with... Dan Just my opinion - (Bob Wallace) From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:13:12 Hi Dan, Don't worry! Craig just tried to tell me that Ode has some wisdom that I should know. The problem is I know the author of that wisdom and avoid it like the plague,. Visit my web site, www.yeshuaiscoming.info. It cannot be found if you use Microsoft MSN browser. Any other will find it. Ole Bob Dan Nave wrote: I wrote a very interesting reply to this post. Just as I was about to send it, the program refused to send it and then shut down so my post was lost. It appears that the universe does not want you to know what I was going to say. Sorry... Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: PWT its Limits
Hi Trem, Sounds like you have a good unit on the market. Whether you like it or not, it is measuring current. Voltage and current are inversely proportional through a load (the resistance of your CS solution). With a constant current source it is measuring the voltage drop across the solution to trip the comparator. Semiconductors, like comparators trip at a voltage offset. Usually there is a resistor voltage divider to convert the current to voltage. A zener diode or some other voltage reference sets up the trip point. Current goes up, voltage goes down and vise versa. It's just a matter of perspective. Since a 14 pin DIP package contains 4 comparators you could probably make one that compensates for the DW variations without much modifications. Just a brain fart... Andy (^_^) From: Trem Hi Andy, Since you asked.we use a voltage comparator to shut our units off. We calibrate the SG6 so the production light does not come on if the water is under about 2 uS which gives the user a general idea of water quality. If the light doesn't come on then the length of time it does take to come on will indicate water conductivity in a roundabout way. Longer time means better water. We do NOT measure current. It is limited and is a constant once the unit is up to speed. That function is indicated by the production light being fully lit. From then on the voltage across the electrodes is continually reducing in order to maintain the constant current. So, it makes little difference what the water volume is..the unit runs until the voltage comparator senses the preset voltage on the front dial is the same as the voltage across the electrode. The unit then shuts down. At that point one can use a PWT meter and get a rough idea of the amount of silver in the water by subtracting the initial water reading and adding a correction factor. If one does not have a meter it makes little difference since the unit checked the water at startup and would have been less than 2 uS. I'd say it's plenty good enough. If someone waits a while and turns the unit off and back on again it will add more silver to the water. We calibrate them to work properly from startup to shutdown. I hope this helps you. Regards, Trem Williams http://www.silvergen.com - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSPWT its Limits Hi Bob and Dan, When I try to measure CS with a DC ohm meter it acts like either a capacitor or a battery which makes sense. I've got two electrodes in an electrolyte so it is either charging or discharging through the meter (which is supplying current to make the measurement). Just the process of making CS is charging up the battery so current restart Bob mentioned makes sense. Measuring the AC impedance rather than the DC resistance (as Ole Bob suggests) would also seem to make more sense. I would assume that the commercial units with automatic shutoff are measuring current by using a voltage divider and a comparator. When a set value is reached they turn off. I doubt that they measure the initial starting current and adjust for variations of DW conductivity. Of course, if the generator runs on a timer, it's probably garbage. Good questions to ask the manufacturer if they provide an auto shutoff feature. Ole Bob - Just out of curiosity, what kind of variations are you seeing between batches when you try to keep everything exactly the same? Best Regards, Andy From: Robert Berger Hi Dan, With our posteriors exposed we find that when using a DC ohm meter it is necessary to swish the electrodes in short rapid strokes to keep the reading from climbing. Generally when measuring a resistance of a liquid or soil it is done with an AC ohmmeter and preferably one running at 180 Hertz or faster. The commercial units do measure conductivity to determine when the proces is finished. The generators will not start if the conductivity of the DW is above a certain limit. Are you enough of a computer geek so that if I sent you off line a program Wplot32.exe that you would install it on the desk top, and then create a file folder My wplots under My documents to store some files that I would send to you? If you could I would like to send you some data plots of runs that I have made so that you can see some of the strange things that go on with this process. First offf the conductance changes with time i.e. at the end of a run it might be 75 uS/cm and24 hours later if might be 40 uS/cm. If you stop a process for several minutes to wipe the electodes then the current on restart will be 20 to 30% lower. In fact just stopping for a minute and restarting without doing anything and the current readings will drop. Ole Bob
