CS>Re: Gold electrode/DC induction arc trial
Perhaps relevant, somewhat technical paper on a different approach to arriving at CG: "...two components in the mass transport controlled limiting current are identified as: (i)the deposition of gold onto the boron-doped diamond, (ii)the formation of colloidal gold... Fig.6---Schematic drawing of the experimental set-up employed for the generation of colloidal gold at a 1 mm diameter boron- doped diamond electrode (WE1)and the collection of gold particles at a 5 mm diameter graphite rod electrode (WE2)placed vis-a-vis in 2 mm distance..." File format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C378132C5 View as HTML (no illustrations): http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z568322C5 jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gold electrodes
Surprised at you, Bob. Beat it thin, roll it up, drag it through a draw plate. Then do whatever you wish with it. Chuck Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!" On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:31:11 -0500, Robert Berger wrote: >Hi Ode, > >Tell me how to insulate a coin for an arc that is 1/2" to 2" below the water >surface and still be able to adjust the arc. > >"Ole Bob" > >Ode Coyote wrote: > >> Why not use gold bullion coins? >> >> Ode -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Gold electrode/DC induction arc trial
--- Robert Berger wrote: > Hi Ode, > > Tell me how to insulate a coin for an arc that is > 1/2" to 2" below the water > surface and still be able to adjust the arc. > > "Ole Bob" > > Ode Coyote wrote: > > > Why not use gold bullion coins? > > > > Ode I am now working on some possibilities of making underwater (high voltage) DC INDUCTION Underwater arcing. A DC induction arc,might be probably similar to welder DC arc that may show some similarities. But it would seem the best example for a dc induction arc is to use a huge air core inductance in DC. When we break the DC circuit, an arc will always form at the breaking points. For a 1000 ohm 60 henry coil @ 400 volts, it is easy to procur a 1/2 inch long arc, and I think these arcs are harder to estiguish then their AC counterparts. A lot is unknown in this category. A man named Joseph Newman built a copper magnetic motor, where he claimed that these DC induction arcs occuring at the DC commutator, were in fact acting as back rf emf spikes on the battery supply, so that the battery was getting charged back up while powering the motor. I myself built an entirely different version of a copper magnetic motor using 4 of these 80 lb 60 henry coils, and was able to rotate a 50 lb magnetic rotor some 300 rpm with the air core coil system. It was here where the impossibility of extinguishing the DC induction arc became apparent as a real problem. The amount of voltage that appears between the separating electrodes of the commutator are also dependent on the speed of separation, and a longer arc is always procurred at a faster separation rate. The normal practice is to provide an alternative pathway for the induction arc, such as a florescent bulb, which is what Newman did, by putting bulbs in parallel to the arc. These then function as voltage dependent parallel pathways that only open as a parallel circuit across the arc, when the extra voltage created by the induction arc begins to act. The key here is the word "extra" voltage. When the magnetic field of the inductor having a DC magnetic field is interupted, the magnetic field lines collapse back through the windings, which is what generates this extra voltage. I am unfamiliar with aspects of DC welding, and ferromagnetic counterparts of the DC induction arc. But what sems evident is that it is the SPEED of the magnetic collapse that creates this extra voltage. But this is not at all a one time event, or a delicate balancing act between magnetic collapse and arc formation. The process is very self sustaining, and the air core DC induction arc is very hard to extinguish, and will easily go on in duration until the electrodes may start some heating problems. Thus we can create a DC induction arc that can function for long durations of time. The differences between a ferromagnetic DC induction arc effect,and the air core may be due to the following; the air core induction coil has a magnetic field that distributes itself widely into space around the coil, so when collapse of the field lines occurs, they must generally travel a larger distance of space when that collapse occurs: BUT, the ferromagnetic inductance has its magnetic field confined to the volume of the ferromagnetic core, so the speed of its magnetic field collapse may be lesser in that lesser volume of space. Now that I have gone somewhat off topic: lets get to the rest of the story... I found out that a copper magnetic motor could be made in miniature using NIB magnets and radio shack coils. There was a problem of construction. Here a similar topic is evident, how can you make a holding assembly for coins in a V position. My simple first try solution: Go to wallmart and buy a Tinkertoy set! Its expensive, but sometimes you have to throw money at a problem. Perhaps the old erector sets with metal parts could also come in handy for constructing an electrode assembly. My particular solution for the DC water arcing scenario is to first build a tinkertoy holding assembly to position the coins in a V gap formation. I will try something different since immersing the coins into a water may be problematic for making underwater arcing, where in past effects surface arcs instead take place. Instead I will position the V coin gap over a funnel. I have a 5 gallon Wall mart Cooler that can establish a gravity flow through plastic tubing of continous water past the V coin assembly. This is going to take a while to construct. This limits runs to the time of draining. My first trial run will use silver electrodes. This probably will be an unfit substance, a throw away batch for the garden. I am worried about high silver oxide formations at these higher voltages. Maybe then I can graduate to using one gold coin electrode. Any consensus of which polarity to use for the gold? I would suppose the one that would be considered more Negative? For those wishing to experiment with air core DC induction arcs, let me recommend a least expensive alternative. Years a
Re: CS>Has anybody used CS for Bells Palsy?
- Original Message - From: "C Creel" To: Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: Re: CS>Has anybody used CS for Bells Palsy? > < week.I'm going to bring him a couple of gallons.>> > > > ** I would suggest looking into homeopathic treatment for this. I've seen > very quick resolution of this with this type of treatment in all cases. > > Regards, > Catherine Just so you know, Bell's Palsy can also be a manifestation of Lyme disease. Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author (under the name "Nina Silver") of *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Has anybody used CS for Bells Palsy?
<> ** I would suggest looking into homeopathic treatment for this. I've seen very quick resolution of this with this type of treatment in all cases. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gold electrodes
Hi Ode, Tell me how to insulate a coin for an arc that is 1/2" to 2" below the water surface and still be able to adjust the arc. "Ole Bob" Ode Coyote wrote: > Why not use gold bullion coins? > > Ode -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Has anybody used CS for Bells Palsy?
My father just developed Bells Palsy.I'll be visiting him next week.I'm going to bring him a couple of gallons.
CS>re: Lupus questions
Hi; I almost didn't catch this thread, but Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, among other immune system disorders, responds to Ambrotose, from Mannatech. I was at first uninterested but the local results are undeniable; nurses and one doctor is using it. Now that I've seen the results and followed some Medline links, I'm impressed. Glyconutrients work by facilitating cell communication, so the body can ascertain whether an underactive or overactive immune response is happening, or autoimmune disorder has kicked in. With feedback and messaging restored, the body can regulate it. The sugars that are used for that feedback are sometimes in short supply. The sugars also fill receptor sites used for adhesion in bacteria, so they can't stick to cells and are quickly expelled. Check out a couple of articles I wrote on it for my newspaper column at: http://zeek.ca/4u/topics.php?op=viewtopic&topic=9 I've seen COPD disappear in a few days with a pretty simple antioxidant program. Contact me for details. I would have recommended this for the inflammation of arthritis or the progress of MS too, but once the autoimmune process is handled, she might not need it for the autoimmunes, just the COPD. Liver flushes to get rid of toxins would be a good idea. http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Print&sid=38 Duncan Crow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Lupus questions
I buy my MSM in powdered form from the Horse Feed store, about 10.00 per lb.. I started off with two heaping teaspoons, one am and one pm. Now only take one per day. No pain.Had bad arthritis in both knees and neck.If no feed store near go to: http://www.msm-msm.com Have been taking 16 to 32 oz of CS/day but the MSM seems to be the only help - Original Message - From: "mamapug" To: Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Lupus questions > Hi, Listers, > I`m back home after a ten-day trip to Napa, CA to help my sister. The one > with MS, diabetes, COPD and possibly cancer. > She`s really miserable and so the house was a major mess...there were even > maggots in the dirty dishes! Yuck! > What a job. Too bad I have to move there in December. Sigh... > Anyway, when I asked about Lupus a while ago, I was asking if anyone knew > anything about it, not how to fix it. I`d like to know what the usual > symptoms are. I`m wondering if that might be my problem...I have aches in > most of my joints now, and the Xrays showed arthritis in both feet and > ankles, and the one knee they Xrayed, and an older one showed it in my > spine. > The CS has gotten rid of the Lyme, but now what do I do for all the aches?? > Suggestions? > Marshalee > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>Cancer Update
Dear Jonathan, My sister has a case of ovarian cancer where the tumor is 15 cm across her stomach area. She started on the Kelley enzyme program recently and immediately began to detox the tumor. It is now alot smaller. The detox is extreme (feeling sick and goopy) but there are methods of helping the body get rid of it through the eliminative pathways: coffee enemas to help the liver, liver cleanses, different supplements (not too many) such as beta glucans and chlorella. The tumor begins to detach from its blood source and begins to encapsulate. At that point, surgery might be a good option for her to simply lift it out. At this rate, she may be through with the tumor in about 3 months. There is a website called Doctors Second Opinion which deals with this therapy. There is a Doctors Second Opinion Telephone Call In every Thursday evening (phone number probably can be found on website, otherwise I have it in my file). A Dr. Tate hosts it and you will probably hear my sister and others asking questions and providing support too. Dr. Kelley's book, One Answer to Cancer may be found online. He is still living in Texas and while he does not supervise therapy, he answers all phone calls. There are naturopaths who do supervise the enzyme therapy. Best wishes, Hillary
Re: CS>Gold electrodes
Why not use gold bullion coins? Ode At 12:01 AM 8/31/2003 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:45:00 -0500, Robert Berger wrote: > >>Hi Trem, >> >>I bought my #14 ga from the David H. Fell & Co., Inc. >> >>Web site is wwwdhfco.com. And it "ain't cheap." >> I bought 16" of #14 ga, wt was .503 Troy od 24 Kt fine gold. At today's >>prices that will be about $200.00. >>"Ole Bob" > >Geez, you'd think it was gold or sumpin'... > > Chuck > >Every day I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've >stayed alive. > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
