Re: CS>Trem; was RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Mike Monett]

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Re: CS>Trem; was RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms
From: S & J Young
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:11:52

  > Vince,

  > One of  the features of the PWT is that it senses  the temperature
  > of the  solution being measured and does an  automatic temperature
  > compensation. You  shouldn't   need   to   be  concerned  with the
  > temperature of the calibration fluid for normal room temperatures.

  > Steve Y.

  Hi Steve,

  Boy am  I  glad  to  see you again! I  found  your  post  on  a 160V
  regulator at

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m29691.html

  Congratulations on such a great idea. I'm very impressed.

  I tried to find if anyone else ever built your regulator, but that's
  hard to  do with over 64k posts. I found a few people asked  for the
  schematic, like Robert, but it's hard to see what happened later.

  Your idea  was  excellent. I sure wish more  people  had  built your
  system and  used it. It would have made Bob Lee's  calculations much
  easier, and would have greatly improved the repeatability  of making
  cs.

  The schematic was discarded when your post was archived. Just out of
  curiosity, which transistor did you use?

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment

[Mike Monett]

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Re: CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment
From: Mike Monett
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:22:49

  Hi Peter,

  Sorry, I really goofed this time.

  I said:

"The weight  loss can be used in a program called Mercury  to show
the amount of silver liberated."

  This is  silly. The calculation I'm thinking of  actually  gives the
  average current  needed  to  produce the  measured  weight  loss. It
  doesn't apply  here  - the average current is  already  known  to be
  zero. But if you ever need to do the calculation, Mercury is the way
  to go!

  Peter, how  about  doing a quick salt test to see  if  the  Hanna is
  responding to silver ions or to something else?

  Again, you can find the needed information at

http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Measuring mho's

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Consider that parts of the system are the ratio of electrode surface area 
to sample volume (and to mean distance between electrodes as well as 
electrode material) and that the solutions are buffered for a reason, so 
that interactions between sols and electrode materials are 
controlled.  Granted the ultimate result will be a voltage expressed on a 
scale (LCD); but if a simple resistor would do it all, wouldn't they do it 
that way?

For purposes of comparison, check out

http://www.extech.com/newsite/instrument/categories/water/subcategory/waterMeters.html 



They have a wide array of instruments beyond the water stuff; their catalog 
makes me drool!!

Take care, Malcolm

 07:58 PM 10/10/03 -0400, you wrote:


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CS>Measuring very high ppms
From: Trem
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:27:45

  > Mike,

  > The meter  can  easily be calibrated if  you  use  the calibration
  > solution from Hanna. I got one box of 16 bottles of  solution that
  > was defective  and  Ken got one of the bottles.  It  was  the only
  > batch I have gotten that was defective in many years. I  think you
  > can generally  trust  the solution to do what it  was  intended to
  > doallow calibration of the PWT.

  > It will  be  very difficult to use a standard  resistor  since the
  > sensing electrodes  are not easily accessible and the  meter would
  > have to  be disassembled to get at the electronics.  Not something
  > the average  person would want to do. And it's really  not  a good
  > idea when all one has to do is use the factory solution.

  > Trem

  Hi Trem,

  Thanks for  the update. A calibration solution may be  accurate, but
  there's no way to know that for sure. A mistake can occur during the
  dilution, it  can  be contaminated somehow, or perhaps  some  of the
  water may evaporate over time and change the reading.

  Steve Young  posted  a  table of  salt  concentrations  and resistor
  values some time ago. Ivan did also.

  The salt  dilutions  look  scary.   Any  mistake  would  destroy the
  accuracy. I'm not good enough to tackle that.

  The resistor  method  is probably the most  accurate,  but  it would
  require knowing  the cell calibration factor. I don't  have  a Hanna
  yet, but  I understand it uses a special multiple  probe arrangement
  (the details escape me at the moment.)

  I understand  the probes have a small area, so  the  actual resistor
  value would  be  larger  than the  standard  table  shows.  Also the
  calibration constant might be different for each probe due to slight
  mechanical tolerances.

  I found a manual for the hi98308 at

https://www705.vwh1.net/hanna4/downloads/instr/hi98308.pdf

  It shows how to replace the electrode assembly, HI73308

  I don't  know  what is inside the electrode assembly,  but  from the
  pictures there  seems to be a temperature sensor  and  two terminals
  marked (1) in the diagram.

  These terminals  look  quite large and sturdy. I'd  have  to  get my
  Hanna to take a look, but there might be a simple way to gain access
  to them.

  If so, I can diddle with external resistors to find  the calibration
  constant for the unit for various readings. Once I know  the values,
  I can refer to them later if I think there might be a problem.

  Since little  old  ladies   are   allowed  to  change  the electrode
  assembly, I don't think I would have any problems taking it apart as
  instructed.

  The instructions  are given in the manual so people  can  change the
  electrode assembly when it becomes degraded.

  As a  matter of curiosity, how do you tell the difference  between a
  degraded cell and a bad calibration solution?

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Trem; was RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[S & J Young]

Vince,

One of the features of the PWT is that it senses the temperature of the
solution being measured and does an automatic temperature compensation.  You
shouldn't need to be concerned with the temperature of the calibration fluid
for normal room temperatures.
--Steve Y.
- Original Message -
From: "Vince Richter" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: CS>Trem; was RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms


> Trem, since the subject came up, how much difference does the
> calibration temperature make?  I know the cal needs to be done at a
> certain temp.  Would there be a ballpark correlation between calibration
> error and temp. deviation from the standard during calibration?  Is
> there a uS per degree F deviation ballpark error (in the 10-20 uS
> range)?  The reason I ask is that I have both the PWT and the cal
> solution.  I haven't used the solution yet because I have no reason to
> believe it's out of cal.  The uS I read in my CS was within 1 ppm of the
> ppm CS Ole Bob measured.  When the time comes and I calibrate my meter,
> I wondered how meticulous I need to be, and how much difference a few
> degrees would make.
>
> Thanks, Vince
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:21 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Measuring very high ppms
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:41 PM
> Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms
>
>
> >
> >   The Hanna PWT would be an excellent method if I could find  some way
> >   to guarantee  the calibration. Steve Young's idea to  make resistive
> >   standards might be an excellent solution.
>
> > Mike Monett
>
> Mike,
>
> The meter can easily be calibrated if you use the calibration solution
> from
> Hanna.  I got one box of 16 bottles of solution that was defective and
> Ken
> got one of the bottles.  It was the only batch I have gotten that was
> defective in many years.  I think you can generally trust the solution
> to do
> what it was intended to doallow calibration of the PWT.
>
> It will be very difficult to use a standard resistor since the sensing
> electrodes are not easily accessible and the meter would have to be
> disassembled to get at the electronics.  Not something the average
> person
> would want to do.  And it's really not a good idea when all one has to
> do is
> use the factory solution.
>
> Trem
>
>
>
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Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[JohnW]

Yep, or else make sure your both looking at the size of the product right:^)
John.
  - Original Message - 
  From: kittykat 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:57 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg


  humI guess I should buy different pills.  :)

  Debbie
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg


Take 1/1000 of a tablet. 
Marshall 

kittykat wrote: 

  Ok you scientific minds out here.  To you this would be very simple.  I 
am not good in math.  I have 10 mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 
mcg daily. How would I take my tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can I? 
Thank you in advance! debbie 
- Original Message -
From: mamapug
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure
   

   Marshalee - could you tell what amounts of Potassium and Vanadium 
you take? Thank youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium and 80 mg of 
Potassium.Marshalee

Re: CS>Herpes Advice

[Jannette Abel]

Phil,
This site has many testimonials of CS and herpes.

http://www.utopiasilver.com/stories.htm

Jannette


 From: "Phil D" 
 Subject: CS>Herpes Advice


> Hi everyone...
> 
> Forgive me if this is received twice.  I sent this
> earlier today and it stil hasn't shown up so I'm
> assuming it got lost somehow.
> 
> I'm new to the list and have a few questions. I tried
> searching the archive for information before posting
> and although I did find some of what I needed, there
> is just way too much out there and frankly I just dont
> have the time (nor the patience) to try and sift
> through it all.
> 
> For quite a few years I've suffered from outbreaks of
> 'genital' herpes on my left butt cheek that have
> varied in frequency, severity and duration. Although
> an inconvenience (and a literal pain in the butt), it
> was something I was able to cope with. Unfortunately,
> I recently had a new outbreak around my anal area and
> possibly inside the rectum as well judging from the
> discomfort. Needless to say this has been difficult
> to deal with, both physically and emotionally and I'm
> doing my best to keep my spirits up and tackle this
> problem myself and for now I've started taking 2oz of
> CS orally per day.
> 
> If there are any others here that have been able to
> manage/eliminate their herpes outbreaks I'd like to
> hear from you about your experiences.  ...
...> 'Ted'
 


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CS>Trem; was RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Vince Richter]

Trem, since the subject came up, how much difference does the
calibration temperature make?  I know the cal needs to be done at a
certain temp.  Would there be a ballpark correlation between calibration
error and temp. deviation from the standard during calibration?  Is
there a uS per degree F deviation ballpark error (in the 10-20 uS
range)?  The reason I ask is that I have both the PWT and the cal
solution.  I haven't used the solution yet because I have no reason to
believe it's out of cal.  The uS I read in my CS was within 1 ppm of the
ppm CS Ole Bob measured.  When the time comes and I calibrate my meter,
I wondered how meticulous I need to be, and how much difference a few
degrees would make.

Thanks, Vince

-Original Message-
From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Measuring very high ppms


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms


>
>   The Hanna PWT would be an excellent method if I could find  some way
>   to guarantee  the calibration. Steve Young's idea to  make resistive
>   standards might be an excellent solution.

> Mike Monett

Mike,

The meter can easily be calibrated if you use the calibration solution
from
Hanna.  I got one box of 16 bottles of solution that was defective and
Ken
got one of the bottles.  It was the only batch I have gotten that was
defective in many years.  I think you can generally trust the solution
to do
what it was intended to doallow calibration of the PWT.

It will be very difficult to use a standard resistor since the sensing
electrodes are not easily accessible and the meter would have to be
disassembled to get at the electronics.  Not something the average
person
would want to do.  And it's really not a good idea when all one has to
do is
use the factory solution.

Trem



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RE: CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment

[Cliff]

It shouldn't work. Tell me what you get for answers.

Cliff.  ch...@shaw.ca 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Rebaudo [mailto:reba...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment

Hi:
Get a hold of this tale !

The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, 
the other is outside the glass  container.
DW measures  1.0 u Siemens
Voltage= 34V
Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA.
After 2 days, 2.4uS
After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen.
The final product have zero taste.
The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever.
There was no sediments.
The container was glass 2" in diameter by 7.5" high
Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5" summerged.
The voltage stay constant at 34V,  there was no measurable current.

I am looking forward to comments.

Regards

Peter R



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Re: CS>kidney stones

[Jannette Abel]

Hi Helen,
Here is some information on removing/dissolving kidney stones:
 
http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/kidney/default.asp

HTH,
Jannette

   From: helenw8...@aol.com 
   


  Hi, Is there is any way for my husband to get rid of his kidney stone?  It is 
5 cm and is to have it crushed in two weeks, the only problem is that it is so 
large that they will have to put a small plastic tube with a string attached to 
it in from his bladder to his kidney so as to help pass some of the larger 
fragments  Is he ever upset and says he doesn't want it done but his choices 
are nil unless there is some way that one of you can think of.
  Thanks,

  Mary H.

Re: CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment

[Mike Monett]

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63365.html
CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment
From: Peter Rebaudo
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:59:26

  > Hi:
  > Get a hold of this tale !

  > The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 
300cc,
  > the other is outside the glass  container.
  > DW measures  1.0 u Siemens
  > Voltage= 34V
  > Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA.
  > After 2 days, 2.4uS
  > After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever 
seen.
  > The final product have zero taste.
  > The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever.
  > There was no sediments.
  > The container was glass 2" in diameter by 7.5" high
  > Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5" summerged.
  > The voltage stay constant at 34V,  there was no measurable current.

  > I am looking forward to comments.

  > Regards

  > Peter R

  Hi Peter,

  Interesting. You  can  use  the Faraday equations  to  see  how much
  silver was lost at the anode. Since the current is zero,  the amount
  of silver liberated should also be zero.

  But you  indicate the Hanna reading changes and you see a  heavy TE.
  So something seems to be happening.

  Is ther any chance the anode was contaminated with something?

  You can  estimate the ppm using the salt test and compare it  to the
  PWT reading. Some information and a brief table of typical values is
  available at

http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm

  You can  also repeat the experiment, weighing the  anode  before and
  after. The  weight loss can be used in a program  called  Mercury to
  show the  amount  of silver liberated. A link  is  available  at the
  above url.

  The uS  reading from the Hanna converts directly  to  milligrams per
  litre. You can determine the amount of silver in 300 cc  and compare
  it to the measured weight loss.

  Some of  these  tests  might give  further  information  on  what is
  happening.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CS>Re: About a extraordinary experiment

[Peter Rebaudo]

Hi:
Get a hold of this tale !

The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, 
the other is outside the glass  container.

DW measures  1.0 u Siemens
Voltage= 34V
Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA.
After 2 days, 2.4uS
After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen.
The final product have zero taste.
The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever.
There was no sediments.
The container was glass 2" in diameter by 7.5" high
Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5" summerged.
The voltage stay constant at 34V,  there was no measurable current.

I am looking forward to comments.

Regards

Peter R



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CS>Has anybody heard of the FOODZAPPICATOR ?

[twll]

You take a small speaker with a north pole magnet & 
hook it up to your zapper to kill parasites & other stuff in your food.Its in 
Hulda Clarks latest book on aids.
Heres a website that has the plans
www.foodzappicator.com

CS>Re: Parasites & kidney stones

[HelenW8262]

Hi, Is there is any way for my husband to get rid of his kidney stone?  It is 
5 cm and is to have it crushed in two weeks, the only problem is that it is 
so large that they will have to put a small plastic tube with a string attached 
to it in from his bladder to his kidney so as to help pass some of the larger 
fragments  Is he ever upset and says he doesn't want it done but his choices 
are nil unless there is some way that one of you can think of.
Thanks,

Mary H.

> Do you
> >>think there is any link between kidney stones and parasites? And does
> >>anyone have any formula for getting rid of the creatures 

CS>130VDC Generator Update

[Mike Monett]

To All,

I have updated the information for a 130VDC cs generator to include 
additional links to silver list archives, and corrected and updated the 
information on the salt test. 

The url is

  http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm

Brew Safely:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CS>Herpes Advice

[Phil D]

Hi everyone...

Forgive me if this is received twice.  I sent this
earlier today and it stil hasn't shown up so I'm
assuming it got lost somehow.

I'm new to the list and have a few questions.  I tried
searching the archive for information before posting
and although I did find some of what I needed, there
is just way too much out there and frankly I just dont
have the time (nor the patience) to try and sift
through it all.

For quite a few years I've suffered from outbreaks of
'genital' herpes on my left butt cheek that have
varied in frequency, severity and duration.  Although
an inconvenience (and a literal pain in the butt), it
was something I was able to cope with.  Unfortunately,
I recently had a new outbreak around my anal area and
possibly inside the rectum as well judging from the
discomfort.  Needless to say this has been difficult
to deal with, both physically and emotionally and I'm
doing my best to keep my spirits up and tackle this
problem myself and for now I've started taking 2oz of
CS orally per day.

If there are any others here that have been able to
manage/eliminate their herpes outbreaks I'd like to
hear from you about your experiences.  One question I
have is how much CS should I be taking?  Another is
about applying CS topically, not only to lesions, but
to the areas that burn and itch during prodrome.  I
would assume I would need to use DMSO or MSM to aid in
transport... assuming both serve that function.  I
read conflicting info on whether MSM did or not. 
Which would be better to use and what ratio of
DMSO/MSM and CS do I use?  Would it be safe to use
this in the anal area with the mucous membranes?  And
for an enema, should I use CS only or is there
something I could/should mix with it?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance for
your help!

'Ted'



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Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[Grant]

Well
              A milligram is one thousands of a gram.  (   mg  )
               A microgram is one millionth of a gram.  (  mcg  )

              So  1 mg  =  1000 mcg
               So then     10 mg  = 1mcg.
        
                So if  she is taking  10 mcg and you have only 10 mg tablets
then you would have to take  .010 of one of 
                your tablets  .. Yes that is  a decimal before the first
zero.. Really  not a practical thing to do..

                                                      Grant... :-) 

                                                *
kittykat wrote:
  
  
 
  
 
  humI guess I should buy different
pills.   :)
 
   
 
  Debbie
 
   
  
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From:
   Marshall
   Dudley 
   
To:
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Sent:
Friday, October 10, 2003 2:48PM
   
Subject:
Re: CS>CS>OT -  mg/mcg
   


Take 1/1000 of a tablet.
Marshall
kittykat wrote:
 
   Ok you scientific
minds out here.  To  you this would be very simple.  I am not good in
math.  I have 10  mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 mcg  
   daily. How would I take
my  tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can  I? Thank you in  advance! debbie  
   
  
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From:
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To:
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Sent:
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15PM
   
Subject:
Re: CS>CS>Bloodpressure
  
 

   
 Marshalee - could you tell what amounts
of Potassium and  Vanadium you take? Thank youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium
 and 80 mg of Potassium.Marshalee
  

  







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CS>Re: Infra-red light

[HelenW8262]

Hi, I have bad allergies to mold and mildew and am interested in the 
statement below. My house is air conditioned but how do I go about getting an 
infra-red light installed? Have a friend that just paid around $2,000 for 
having 
something installed in his air conditioning that is supposed to take out all 
allergens..
Thanks,

Mary H.

> If your home is air conditioned, you  can  have an
> >  >infra-red light  installed that will even kill anthax  as  well as
> >  >most other air-borne problems including mold.
> 

Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Mike Monett]

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CS>Measuring very high ppms
From: Trem
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:27:45

  > Mike,

  > The meter  can  easily be calibrated if  you  use  the calibration
  > solution from Hanna. I got one box of 16 bottles of  solution that
  > was defective  and  Ken got one of the bottles.  It  was  the only
  > batch I have gotten that was defective in many years. I  think you
  > can generally  trust  the solution to do what it  was  intended to
  > doallow calibration of the PWT.

  > It will  be  very difficult to use a standard  resistor  since the
  > sensing electrodes  are not easily accessible and the  meter would
  > have to  be disassembled to get at the electronics.  Not something
  > the average  person would want to do. And it's really  not  a good
  > idea when all one has to do is use the factory solution.

  > Trem

  Hi Trem,

  Thanks for  the update. A calibration solution may be  accurate, but
  there's no way to know that for sure. A mistake can occur during the
  dilution, it  can  be contaminated somehow, or perhaps  some  of the
  water may evaporate over time and change the reading.

  Steve Young  posted  a  table of  salt  concentrations  and resistor
  values some time ago. Ivan did also.

  The salt  dilutions  look  scary.   Any  mistake  would  destroy the
  accuracy. I'm not good enough to tackle that.

  The resistor  method  is probably the most  accurate,  but  it would
  require knowing  the cell calibration factor. I don't  have  a Hanna
  yet, but  I understand it uses a special multiple  probe arrangement
  (the details escape me at the moment.)

  I understand  the probes have a small area, so  the  actual resistor
  value would  be  larger  than the  standard  table  shows.  Also the
  calibration constant might be different for each probe due to slight
  mechanical tolerances.

  I found a manual for the hi98308 at

https://www705.vwh1.net/hanna4/downloads/instr/hi98308.pdf

  It shows how to replace the electrode assembly, HI73308

  I don't  know  what is inside the electrode assembly,  but  from the
  pictures there  seems to be a temperature sensor  and  two terminals
  marked (1) in the diagram.

  These terminals  look  quite large and sturdy. I'd  have  to  get my
  Hanna to take a look, but there might be a simple way to gain access
  to them.

  If so, I can diddle with external resistors to find  the calibration
  constant for the unit for various readings. Once I know  the values,
  I can refer to them later if I think there might be a problem.

  Since little  old  ladies   are   allowed  to  change  the electrode
  assembly, I don't think I would have any problems taking it apart as
  instructed.

  The instructions  are given in the manual so people  can  change the
  electrode assembly when it becomes degraded.

  As a  matter of curiosity, how do you tell the difference  between a
  degraded cell and a bad calibration solution?
 
Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CS>Re: Infra-red light

[HelenW8262]

Hi, I have bad allergies to mold and mildew and am interested in the 
statement below. My house is air conditioned but how do I go about getting an 
infra-red light installed? Have a friend that just paid around $2,000 for 
having 
something installed in his air conditioning that is supposed to take out all 
allergens..
Thanks,

Mary H.

> If your home is air conditioned, you  can  have an
> >  >infra-red light  installed that will even kill anthax  as  well as
> >  >most other air-borne problems including mold.
> 

Re: CS>new school of thought

[HRBE]

Its certainly not new, check Royal Raymond Rifes various web sites, his work 
from the early 1920's and on is well documented regarding his discovery of 
various bugs, which caused cancer, diabetes etc, etc.
His work was discredited by the AMA and others to a point where it broke him 
physically and mentally.
I believe fairly recent research has "discovered" (read re-discovered)  that 
diabetes is caused by a virus.
John in Australia
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  From: Sandy . Green 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:26 PM
  Subject: CS>new school of thought


  There is a new school of thought in in cetain medical/scientific 
  researchcircles that ALL illness' can be traced to bacteria and virus's ie.
  infection of some kind.
  Mike

  I've read about a theory that mycoplasmas are causing a variety of 
auto-immune diseases, as well as chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and many 
others.  I personally have tested positive for several of the mycoplasmas.  CS 
and homeopathics are  very helpful.

  Sandy









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CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Trem]

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From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms


>
>   The Hanna PWT would be an excellent method if I could find  some way
>   to guarantee  the calibration. Steve Young's idea to  make resistive
>   standards might be an excellent solution.

> Mike Monett

Mike,

The meter can easily be calibrated if you use the calibration solution from
Hanna.  I got one box of 16 bottles of solution that was defective and Ken
got one of the bottles.  It was the only batch I have gotten that was
defective in many years.  I think you can generally trust the solution to do
what it was intended to doallow calibration of the PWT.

It will be very difficult to use a standard resistor since the sensing
electrodes are not easily accessible and the meter would have to be
disassembled to get at the electronics.  Not something the average person
would want to do.  And it's really not a good idea when all one has to do is
use the factory solution.

Trem


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Re: CS>Info on Vanadium

[mamapug]

To anyone interested, here`s some info on Vanadium that Silverlister Graham
sent a while ago.
Marshalee

VANADIUM
Rough file:
"When Dr. John McNeill, dean of pharmaceutical sciences at UBC, and his
colleagues Clayton Heilinger and Arun Tahiliani were testing vanadium - a
common trace element found in seaweed - on diabetes induced female rats to
see if it would prevent the development of cardiac problems, they made a
startling discovery. Vanadium not only improved the rats' cardiovascular
performance, it also regulated the levels of glucose in their blood and
prevented the formation of cataracts. In fact, the rats that were fed
vanadium in their drinking water appeared normal in all respects. ... Adds
McNeill: 'The fact that vanadium appears to fix the whole system is a very
nice discovery. It was not something we originally intended to look for.'
On average, an adult consumes one to four milligrams of vanadium every day
from such foods as meat, milk, vegetables and bread: fish and marine plants
are particularly good sources. The biological importance of vanadium,
however, is largely unknown. A natural part of the regulatory system, it is
believed to prevent cholesterol formation both in blood vessels and in the
central nervous system. ... However, says McNeill, 'we never thought
vanadium would do it [mimic insulin] so well. From everything we looked at,
the rats were completely normal."
A two-factor, two-by-three factorially arranged experiment was performed to
ascertain whether iodine affects the response of rats to vanadium
deprivation. Male weanling Wistar-Kyoto rats were fed a 16% casein 68%
acid-washed ground corn diet for 8 weeks. The variables were supplemental
vanadium at 0 or 1 microgram/g and supplemental iodine at 0, 0.33 or 25
micrograms/g. Vanadium deprivation increased thyroid weight and thyroid
weight/body weight ratio and decreased the concentration of vanadium in
liver. Vanadium and iodine interacted such that, as dietary iodine was
increased, plasma glucose increased in the vanadium-deficient rats but
decreased in the vanadium-supplemented rats. Also, as dietary iodine was
increased, thyroid peroxidase activity decreased; the decrease was more
marked in the vanadium-supplemented than the vanadium-deprived rats. The
findings suggest that vanadium may have a physiological role affecting
iodine metabolism and thyroid function.vanadium and iodine interaction
effects on thyroid.doc
The following study shows that vanadium supplementation can increase bone
mineral levels and that there is an interaction between vanadium and vitamin
C in cholesterol metabolism.
Magnes Trace Elem 1991-92;10(5-6):327-38

Vanadium and ascorbate effects on 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A
reductase, cholesterol and tissue minerals in guinea pigs fed low-chromium
diets.

Seaborn CD, Mitchell ED, Stoecker BJ

Department of Nutritional Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater.

Vanadium has been reported to affect numerous physiological processes;
however, a demonstration that vanadium deficiency consistently impairs
biological function is lacking. The purpose of this study was to determine
if the activity of hepatic 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG CoA)
reductase, the rate-limiting enzyme in cholesterol synthesis, is affected by
dietary supplementation of vanadate and/or chronic ascorbic acid deficiency.
To determine if vanadium and/or ascorbic acid affected mineral metabolism,
tissue minerals also were analyzed. Weanling male guinea pigs were assigned
randomly to groups of 10 in a 2 x 2 factorial design. The dietary variables
were ascorbate, 0.5 or 10 mg/day, and vanadium < 0.01 microgram or 0.5
microgram/g diet as NH4VO3 in a low Cr diet containing < 0.07 microgram Cr/g
diet. After 21 weeks on this diet, guinea pigs receiving more ascorbate had
lower liver weight/body weight ratios and increased bone copper. Testes
weight/body weight ratios, hepatic glycogen and bone copper decreased while
hepatic lipids, fecal bile acids, plasma cortisol and bone calcium and
magnesium were increased by vanadium supplementation. An interaction between
vanadium and ascorbate affected cholesterol excretion in feces, hepatic
iron, plasma cholesterol concentration and the activity of HMG CoA
reductase. This study provides evidence of increased bone mineral
concentrations with vanadium supplementation and of an interaction between
vanadium and ascorbate which affected cholesterol metabolism.




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Re: CS>Mike D's cleanse

[Robb Allen]

Good Luck Mike!
I'm on day 4 of being on the exact same protocol that you are about to
start..I feel like I'm dying!!!.every time I use my   pulser I get
sick.I'm taking this as a good sign and continuing!.Robb
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From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Mike D's cleanse


> > Mike- whatever happened with the master cleanse you were doing?? I was
> > waiting anxiously to hear if it worked for you. Sharon C
>
> Oh, yes ... hi there Sharon!
>
> I can say I completed 12 days of the fast, but it was admittedly marred
> towards the end by some inappropriate snacking. No miracles of healing
> occurred.
>
> Since then I've focused on filling out my "order of battle" with the
> components of the Beck four step protocol:  zapping, magnetic pulsing,
> CS and ozone. I should be ready Real Soon Now(tm).
>
> As Eeyore used to say, "Thanks for thinking of me."
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
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Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[kittykat]

humI guess I should buy different pills.  :)

Debbie
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  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg


  Take 1/1000 of a tablet. 
  Marshall 

  kittykat wrote: 

Ok you scientific minds out here.  To you this would be very simple.  I am 
not good in math.  I have 10 mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 mcg 
daily. How would I take my tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can I? 
Thank you in advance! debbie 
  - Original Message -
  From: mamapug
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure
 

 Marshalee - could you tell what amounts of Potassium and Vanadium you 
take? Thank youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium and 80 mg of Potassium.Marshalee

Re: CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms

[Mike Monett]

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63327.html
CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms
From: Jrowland
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:33:13

  Hi jr,

  I'm beginning to see the problem. I'll try to answer  your questions
  in the shortest space  possible. Sympatico has instituted  new email
  procedures that make it unusable. It is too slow.

  >> ...I always use ppm calculated, or ppmc,

  > Yes.

  >> ...to indicate this is the highest possible ppm obtainable...

  > You may inherently know this, but I believe this is the first time
  > you have actually stated it.

  Sorry, I  thought  it was obvious. All my work has  been  focused on
  understanding ions  and oxides and how they  are  produced. Clearly,
  they have to come from somewhere.

  > What or  who's specific verification method  of  measurement would
  > satisfy you? You have consistently begged-off getting  any testing
  > done, citing "too many variables".

  You really  don't need to get a lab test. It is only a  snapshot and
  does not  show  daily variations due  to  temperature, contaminants,
  variations in  the  quality  of the dw, and  so  on.  Please  see my
  response to Stuff:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63347.html

  I use  the  Faraday equations to time the brew, and stop  it  at the
  first sign  of  sludge or deposits on the anodes. If the  dw  is not
  acting up, the ppm will be a bit less than the calculated value.

  How much  less takes an educated guess. Most low current  density cs
  gives 95% ionic or more. Check Frank's reports, and some of the better
  data from Ken and Ivan.

  So for  a  calculated  value  of  22  ppmc,  I  subtract  10%  to be
  conservative and call it 20 ppm.

  If I have any questions about the process, I do a quick salt test to
  check. It quickly showed the discrepancy for two recent  dw problems
  I ran into.

  The Hanna PWT would be an excellent method if I could find  some way
  to guarantee  the calibration. Steve Young's idea to  make resistive
  standards might be an excellent solution.

  Most of  the time, I push the Godzilla generator to 34 ppmc  and use
  H2O2 to clear the yellow tint. I don't have any idea what the actual
  ppm is, but I'm sure it is above 20 and probably below 27 ppm.

  That's the hghest value Ivan and Ken have posted, and I don't want to
  go above it unless I have real good data.

  But it  is strong and highly repeatable. Repeatability  is  the most
  important thing about making cs. If it is not repeatable, you really
  can't tell  if it is doing the job, especially if you are  older and
  your immune system is degraded like the mold did to mine.

  >> ...It is so obvious, I can't see how anyone can think otherwise.

  > Pretend, just for a moment, you are a newbie to CS production.

  That never  really occurred to me. People are constantly  coming and
  going, and  there  is no way to guess how much  background  they may
  have. Most of the explanations on the web are of little use or plain
  wrong. I  have  no idea what preconceptions people  might  have, and
  can't do  much about it. I'm constantly learning more and  doing new
  experiments. They  already take too long to explain to  Ken  and the
  others. It  would  bore  them to death if I had  to  start  from the
  beginning in each post.

  >> Are we on the same page now?

  > We're getting there... jr

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Mike D's cleanse

[Rnhffmn11]

In a message dated 10/10/03 2:43:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
tala...@teleport.com writes:


> >  > Mike- whatever happened with the master cleanse you were doing?? I was
> >>  waiting anxiously to hear if it worked for you. Sharon C
> >
> >Oh, yes ... hi there Sharon!
> >
> >I can say I completed 12 days of the fast, but it was admittedly marred
> >towards the end by some inappropriate snacking. No miracles of healing
> >occurred.
> 
> Bummer- I'd be afraid of the inappropriate snacking too...
> So, did you loose any weight?? Is that too personal to ask?
> 
> >Since then I've focused on filling out my "order of battle" with the
> >components of the Beck four step protocol:  zapping, magnetic pulsing,
> >CS and ozone. I should be ready Real Soon Now(tm).
> 
> So can I ask what convinced you to do Beck as opposed to Clarks 
> protocol? I am trying to decide which way to spend my hard earned 
> cash.
> 

Hi,

I am new here, so maybe this topic has already been covered, but the 
weightloss issue does intrigue me and i am wondering if anyone here has heard 
about a 
symptom called "ballooning of the colon"?  This symptom leads to a big 
proportion of what we eat, not getting digested properly, thus gaining weight 
and 
slowing down our metabolisms.  Does anyone here know what i am referring to?  

The words protease, amylase and lipase are key in solving this problem.

And on the subject of snacking, what i eat for breakfast consists of roughly 
20 oz. of either cow milk or goat milk, 6 eggs, 2 cups of oatmeal, a banana 
and a couple of hefty scoops of a certain high protein-low carb shake mix that 
shall remain nameless.

throw it all in a blender and i can work hard most of the day without getting 
hungry.
and it only takes like 5 minutes to make and drink.

peace out,
ron

Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[Marshall Dudley]

Take 1/1000 of a tablet.

Marshall

kittykat wrote:

> Ok you scientific minds out here.  To you this would be very simple.
> I am not good in math.  I have 10 mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee
> uses 10 mcg daily. How would I take my tablets to equal what she
> takes?  Or even can I? Thank you in advance! debbie
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: mamapug
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15 PM
>  Subject: Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure
>
>
>
>Marshalee - could you tell what amounts of
>   Potassium and Vanadium you take? Thank
>   youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium and 80 mg of
>   Potassium.Marshalee
>

Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[kittykat]

Ok you scientific minds out here.  To you this would be very simple.  I am not 
good in math.  I have 10 mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 mcg 
daily.  

How would I take my tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can I?

Thank you in advance!

debbie
  - Original Message - 
  From: mamapug 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure






Marshalee - could you tell what amounts of Potassium and Vanadium you take?

Thank you
Debbie

Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium and 80 mg of Potassium.
Marshalee

Re: CS>CS generator

[Stuff]

Thanks, Mike.

At 02:40 PM 10/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63229.html
Re: CS>CS generator
From: Robert Berger
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:39:55

  > Stuff wrote:

  >> I'd like  to know how your salt test can easily tell  CS strength
  >> within 5 ppm AND be a "very subjective" test.

  >> What quantities of salt are needed to test what quantities  of CS
  >> and then with each given quantity what is the ppm?

  > Stuff,

  > You are dreaming. The salt test is very subjective. Get an  ISE or
  > spectrophotometer test so that you know what you have.

  > "Ole Bob:

  Hi Stuff,

  First of all, you really don't need to send your cs to a  lab unless
  you are producing it commercially.

  If you  are young and healthy, it really doesn't matter how  good or
  bad the  cs  is. Many people have obtained great  benefit  with  a 3
  nines generator  despite  huge  variations  in  quality  of  the dw,
  electrode length  and placement, variability in brew  times, battery
  voltage, and so on. It works fine to kill bacteria, help  heal minor
  cuts, and even some of the weaker viruses.

  The salt  test  is ideal in these circumstances to  show  you indeed
  have cs, and to give an idea how strong it is.

  I posted a brief table a while ago that gives a rough guide. This is
  in 10  ppm  increments, but you can easily  interpolate  between the
  readings and judge the concentration within 5 ppm:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61467.html

  Since then,  I discovered Bob Lee's Faraday calculations,  and found
  how useful Mercury is to calculate the amount of silver liberated.

  I also  realized it would be possible to measure the  time  it takes
  for the  dispersion  to  appear,  which  would  give  more objective
  information on the amount of silver present. I have not had  time to
  run through  the  process in small increments, but  it  would vastly
  increase the usefulness of the test.

  It is  really not necessary to send you cs to a  lab,  especially if
  you are  young and healthy. It won't tell you much  about variations
  in your  process,  where  the salt test can be  used  daily  at very
  little cost.

  If you  do decide to get an analysis, make sure you use  a  lab that
  has demonstrated competence in this field.

  One good  way to verify is to check the correlation  between  uS and
  ppm. As  Trem, Frank, Ivan, and Ken agree, there should  be  a close
  correlation between these two parameters.

  Right now,  Frank's analysis looks to be the best available.  He has
  published reports on various products on his web site, and they show
  that he knows how to get accurate measurements.

  He also  has  NIST traceability, which is  necessary  to  ensure his
  calibration references remain accurate.

  But most people have never sent their cs to a lab. There's really no
  need, especially  if you are using one of the  better  cs generators
  discussed here.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites

[Sharon]

Do you have a URL for Peter Lindeman? I googled him and go tso many 
dofferent links that I can't tell which is the one you referred to.

Thanks
Sharon



I think the main difference is in the waveform and the frequencies.
If memory serves me the Beck unit has a square waveform and low 
frequencies that produce many resonant frequencies.You can find 
a lot of info. on the SOTA site.Peter Lindeman's  remark about 
the Zapper is something to effect that it kills the pathogens a bit 
faster than it kills you.He considers the device harmful.   I 
believe this was based on the waveform and also perhaps the current 
(direct as opposed to alternating.)I am not an expert in this 
topic or completely up to date as I have only dabbled with blood 
electrification.   In my limited experience using an Omron TENS unit 
for blood electrification,  it clears up lung infections very 
quickly.   That is all I can say.




JBB




On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 11:10 Asia/Tokyo, Sharon wrote:


Hey JBB, in what respect is it different, do you know?
THanks
Sharon


Hi, list,

Just to clarify:  the name "zapper" corresponds to the Hulda Clark 
device,  which is different in various respects from the device 
designed by Bob Beck.


A writer named Peter Lindeman claims the Beck device is superior; 
I have heard of good results from both devices.


JBB




On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 06:13 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:


Hi Sharon,
Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are very nice, helpful
people and I recommend them highly. My wife & I recently purchased one and
alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every day. I'm sure it's
helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days before really commenting.
There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9 volt 
battery. I believe

it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and very well designed and
attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are customer friendly--have
an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on your internet and read
about all their fine products. Tell them I referred you--when we can report
our successes, I hope to sell some of their items here in FL.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
-Original Message-
From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites


Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute-

I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver medicine site,
and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed that there was a
lot of information suggesting the formation of stones in the liver
and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have suggested that my
dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney stones. Do you
think there is any link between kindey stones and parasites? And does
anyone have any formula for getting rid of the creatures ( since the
altcancer stuff is not available any more. )

Thanks
Sharon


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RE: CS>OT Stones and parasites

[Sharon]

Kim- E-mail me offlist.
Sharon

I have herbal ways of getting rid of stones, parasites, yeast, env. 
toxins etc...

if you are interested, let me know
Kim



From: tomy thomson 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>OT Stones and parasites
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:20:10 +1000 (EST)

You can find easy to follow instructions on how to
build your own zapper at
microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com


/ --- Richard Harris  wrote: > Hi
Sharon,

 Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are
 very nice, helpful
 people and I recommend them highly. My wife & I
 recently purchased one and
 alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every
 day. I'm sure it's
 helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days
 before really commenting.
 There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9
 volt battery. I believe
 it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and
 very well designed and
 attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are
 customer friendly--have
 an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on
 your internet and read
 about all their fine products. Tell them I referred
 you--when we can report
 our successes, I hope to sell some of their items
 here in FL.
 Best regards,
 Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
 -Original Message-
 From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites


 Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute-

 I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver
 medicine site,
 and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed
 that there was a
 lot of information suggesting the formation of
 stones in the liver
 and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have
 suggested that my
 dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney
 stones. Do you
 think there is any link between kindey stones and
 parasites? And does
 anyone have any formula for getting rid of the
 creatures ( since the
 altcancer stuff is not available any more. )

 Thanks
 Sharon


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Re: CS>Mike D's cleanse

[Sharon]

 > Mike- whatever happened with the master cleanse you were doing?? I was

 waiting anxiously to hear if it worked for you. Sharon C


Oh, yes ... hi there Sharon!

I can say I completed 12 days of the fast, but it was admittedly marred
towards the end by some inappropriate snacking. No miracles of healing
occurred.


Bummer- I'd be afraid of the inappropriate snacking too...
So, did you loose any weight?? Is that too personal to ask?


Since then I've focused on filling out my "order of battle" with the
components of the Beck four step protocol:  zapping, magnetic pulsing,
CS and ozone. I should be ready Real Soon Now(tm).


So can I ask what convinced you to do Beck as opposed to Clarks 
protocol? I am trying to decide which way to spend my hard earned 
cash.



As Eeyore used to say, "Thanks for thinking of me."


Well, just keep us posted!
Sharon


Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CS>OT Stones and parasites

[Richard Harris]

Hi Sharon,
You'll be impressed by the Sota quality workmanship, design and several
buttons to change electrical current--each parasite responds to different
frequencies and surprisingly, many are sensitive to lower current rather
that the expected higher. They have several unique features that competing
models do not have.
Call Sota & get info--I believe you'll be impressed enough to buy one like
we got. The internet site says that they aren't shipping that model, but I
waited a week for the newer model to arrive & they are now shipping it.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites


Hey JBB, in what respect is it different, do you know?
THanks
Sharon

>Hi, list,
>
>Just to clarify:  the name "zapper" corresponds to the Hulda Clark
>device,  which is different in various respects from the device
>designed by Bob Beck.
>
>A writer named Peter Lindeman claims the Beck device is superior;  I
>have heard of good results from both devices.
>
>JBB
>
>
>
>
>On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 06:13 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:
>
>>Hi Sharon,
>>Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are very nice, helpful
>>people and I recommend them highly. My wife & I recently purchased one and
>>alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every day. I'm sure it's
>>helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days before really commenting.
>>There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9 volt battery. I
believe
>>it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and very well designed and
>>attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are customer
friendly--have
>>an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on your internet and read
>>about all their fine products. Tell them I referred you--when we can
report
>>our successes, I hope to sell some of their items here in FL.
>>Best regards,
>>Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites
>>
>>
>>Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute-
>>
>>I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver medicine site,
>>and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed that there was a
>>lot of information suggesting the formation of stones in the liver
>>and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have suggested that my
>>dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney stones. Do you
>>think there is any link between kindey stones and parasites? And does
>>anyone have any formula for getting rid of the creatures ( since the
>>altcancer stuff is not available any more. )
>>
>>Thanks
>>Sharon
>>
>>
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>>
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CS>parasite cleanses

[Shirley Reed]

The web site www.drclark.net and the related site www.drclark.com will give 
you info regarding at least one very good cleanse for parasites.  I cannot say 
I am cured using this, but I sure feel lots better since doing it.LOTS 
BETTER   Terrible eye pain of many years duration disappeared almost instantly 
with my first dose of green hull black walnut tincture.  The .com allows you to 
order the materials for the parasite cleanse and the .net tells the procedure.  
 I'm sure there are other good cleanses too, but this is the one I am familiar 
with.   Best wishes.


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Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[BioSil]

Lovely stuff!  thank you!
:o)

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Harris" 
To: 
Cc: "Richard Harris" 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms


> Hi Jonathan & Mike,
>
> My humble thanks to each of you for acknowledging information from each of
> us offered in love and
> empathy to those with problems about which many of us have been touched!
>
> Jonathan, your suggestion about the EMHealth Group at Yahoo will be
> priceless to all of us that are still learning and sharing (me at age 80).
> God has blessed me so richly until I Have to continually seek to serve &
> share with others.
>
> Mike you have added so much to us newbies from your wealth of knowledge
> since I found this wonderful, informative Group! My continual Thanks to
you
> and so many others who stand head and shoulders above the average
knowledge
> so many of us are seeking.
>
> Mike, have you considered soaking one of your used face masks in CS?
Perhaps
> better than the soaks I already mentioned.
>
> I have a website: www.rharrisinc.com , the last page offers Free
consulting
> on questions I might be able to help that might not be suitable for group
> use; however, if the subject might have use for several readers, this list
> is the ideal place--I'll reply to either.
>
> May each of you, together with all others sharing, be rewarded with a
happy,
> healthy life for many years! A long time black friend (long deceased) once
> expressed as he was leaving, "I hope You live a thousand years . . . . . .
.
> .(long pause) . .and I don't ever die!"
>
> Best regards,
> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Monett [mailto:31dtzj...@sneakemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:39 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms
>
>
> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63227.html
> RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms
> From: Richard Harris
> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:31:58
>
>   > Hi Turtle,
>
>   > My heart  goes  out to you & Mike and all  your  loved  ones. Many
>   > people are  sensitive to cat dander as well as mold  spores. There
>   > are new room air filters that are satisfactory for most  people in
>   > a limited space. Some wag once suggested that the only sure way to
>   > remove "fleas"  from a house is to give away or shoot  the  dogs &
>   > cats &  burn the house. I certainly hope your  problems  don't get
>   > "that" severe.  If your home is air conditioned, you  can  have an
>   > infra-red light  installed that will even kill anthax  as  well as
>   > most other air-borne problems including mold.
>
>   > Best of luck to all of you.
>
>   > Mike, for  your headaches, have you tried wetting  a  folded paper
>   > towel or cloth with CS and placing on forehead over eyes for a few
>   > minutes--sometimes that's efeective even for migraines.
>
>   > Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
>   Hi Richard,
>
>   Thank you for your kind thoughts. I second Jonathan's post - finally
>   we have  someone with extensive knowledge and experience  in  a very
>   rare specialty.  Your  posts will be invaluable to  everyone  on the
>   list.
>
>   The headaches  seem to be caused by spores and not by the  toxic gas
>   produced by the fungus. I have a highly-modified HEPA face mask that
>   combines the  best features of the 3M valves with  the  light weight
>   and tight fit of the Northill. (Darned engineers can't  stop finding
>   ways to improve things, can we:)
>
>   Anyway, the  slightest  exposure  to  spores  gives  a  very violent
>   headache, nothing  like I've experienced before. I used to  get this
>   when I  made  the  bed  - flipping  the  sheets  and  blankets would
>   disperse the spores, and the fun would start.
>
>   The HEPA  filter stops them, but not the vapor they  produce.  So it
>   seems the  problem  really  is spores  from  fungus  growing  in the
>   fabric, and  it  is very tough to kill. The spores  are  coated with
>   chitin, the same material that provides the exoskeleton  of insects,
>   lobsters, and many other forms of life. It seems to  be invulnerable
>   to normal acids and bases.
>
>   The toxins  seem to have a special path to the headache  machine. No
>   conventional remedy has any effect whatsoever.
>
>   Your idea  of using cs on a pad never occurred to me - see  - that's
>   where your vast experience is so valuable.
>
>   I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks!
>
>   Just a note on using UV to kill spores - I've seen reports  that UVB
>   might be  helpful since it is a shorter wavelength than UVA. But the
>   light cannot  penetrate deep into fabrics or other material,  so any
>   hidden spores might not see the effects.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
>
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RE: CS>OT/H.Clark website

[Richard Harris]

Hi Sara,
I ordered my Zapper from SOTA & am happily using it--check them out--you'll
like them and their products. Top Quality at good price.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Sara Mandal-Joy [mailto:sara...@mobil1.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT/H.Clark website


There are several clark websites.  http://www.huldaclark.net is information
alone.  http://www.huldaclark.com is a store.  There are also other sites.
Joy


> Hey folks, Maybe I missed this and it has already been brought up
> here, but the Dr. Clark website, while not shut down, appears to not
> be selling anything anymore.



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RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Richard Harris]

Thanks, Hank!
I recall trying it about a week ago & had to do the same thing you did &
promptly forgot about it.
Jonathan, please try again & click cancel when my site gets pushy. I believe
it's related to my Seasilver sites at top of my first page--I am an
associate selling Seasilver--FDA & FTC closed them down, taking their
records & inventory--charging them with making false claims & false
advertising. After jumping through the bureaucratic hoops, they now are
manufacturing & shipping again. Every health food outfit can look forward to
this same treatment & hope & pray they'll be able to get out & resume
business. Seasilver was so large until they were the ideal target. Pity that
our great country has so many stupid, heartless rascals in positiions of
power and boy do they love to use it! Seasilver had to withdraw all
advertising & cancelled my free e-mail sites that I had attached to my site
www.rharrisinc.com One day I had 4 beautiful pages of impressive Seasilver
advertising and the next day, it vanished. At present, when you click on my
page 1, & click on the top line will open to Seasilver again, though not
complete nor as impressive.
Man, you guys struck a nerve, didn't you?
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Hank [mailto:h...@arkansas.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms


I went to all his pages, Just clicked cancel when it ask for the password.

Sincerely Yours,
Hank
http://www.babelmagazine.com/
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html


- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms


> Hi, Richard,
>
> Thanks for the link and for the nice message.
>
> Unfortunately,  in trying to view the pages on your site,  I keep
> getting a demand to log in and provide a password.Is there a way to
> access your page without going through that routine?   I have too many
> passwords as it is.
> > Thanks in advance!
>
>
> JBB
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 23:31 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:
>
> > Hi Jonathan & Mike,
> >
> > My humble thanks to each of you for acknowledging information from
> > each of
> > us offered in love and
> > empathy to those with problems about which many of us have been
> > touched!
> >
> > Jonathan, your suggestion about the EMHealth Group at Yahoo will be
> > priceless to all of us that are still learning and sharing (me at age
> > 80).
> > God has blessed me so richly until I Have to continually seek to serve
> > &
> > share with others.
> >> >
> > I have a website: www.rharrisinc.com , the last page offers Free
> > consulting
> > on questions I might be able to help that might not be suitable for
> > group
> > use; however, if the subject might have use for several readers, this
> > list
> > is the ideal place--I'll reply to either.


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RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms

[Richard Harris]

JBB,
Sorry for the problems & password. I'll get my computer GURU on it--I wasn't
aware of the password request. I'm almost a computer illiterate, though I
wrote both my books using my computer strictly as a word processor. I have
upgraded computers twice in the past 3 yrs due to crashes, etc. and have so
much to learn--you know, So Much to do & so Little Time (I'm 80yrs). Last
month when the Worms were crawling, my GURU adjusted my computer to swat
them and keep them out--One day, I received more than 100 with nice
innocent-sounding subjects: Thank you; Your check is ready; That movie!;
Your credit has been approved; & other nice things that many trusting souls
would rush to open & Voila! You've been hit!
Hope Ronnie can correct it, but I encourage you to keep trying.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yt FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms


Hi, Richard,

Thanks for the link and for the nice message.

Unfortunately,  in trying to view the pages on your site,  I keep
getting a demand to log in and provide a password.Is there a way to
access your page without going through that routine?   I have too many
passwords as it is.

Perhaps list members would be grateful for a  single login name and
password for everyone on the list,  unless there are real security and
privacy issues that necessitate individual log-ins.

Thanks in advance!


JBB




On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 23:31 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:

> Hi Jonathan & Mike,
>
> My humble thanks to each of you for acknowledging information from
> each of
> us offered in love and
> empathy to those with problems about which many of us have been
> touched!
>
> Jonathan, your suggestion about the EMHealth Group at Yahoo will be
> priceless to all of us that are still learning and sharing (me at age
> 80).
> God has blessed me so richly until I Have to continually seek to serve
> &
> share with others.
>
> Mike you have added so much to us newbies from your wealth of knowledge
> since I found this wonderful, informative Group! My continual Thanks
> to you
> and so many others who stand head and shoulders above the average
> knowledge
> so many of us are seeking.
>
> Mike, have you considered soaking one of your used face masks in CS?
> Perhaps
> better than the soaks I already mentioned.
>
> I have a website: www.rharrisinc.com , the last page offers Free
> consulting
> on questions I might be able to help that might not be suitable for
> group
> use; however, if the subject might have use for several readers, this
> list
> is the ideal place--I'll reply to either.
>
> May each of you, together with all others sharing, be rewarded with a
> happy,
> healthy life for many years! A long time black friend (long deceased)
> once
> expressed as he was leaving, "I hope You live a thousand years . . . .
> . . .
> .(long pause) . .and I don't ever die!"
>
> Best regards,
> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Monett [mailto:31dtzj...@sneakemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:39 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms
>
>
> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63227.html
> RE: CS>Measuring very high ppms
> From: Richard Harris
> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:31:58
>
>> Hi Turtle,
>
>> My heart  goes  out to you & Mike and all  your  loved  ones. Many
>> people are  sensitive to cat dander as well as mold  spores. There
>> are new room air filters that are satisfactory for most  people in
>> a limited space. Some wag once suggested that the only sure way to
>> remove "fleas"  from a house is to give away or shoot  the  dogs &
>> cats &  burn the house. I certainly hope your  problems  don't get
>> "that" severe.  If your home is air conditioned, you  can  have an
>> infra-red light  installed that will even kill anthax  as  well as
>> most other air-borne problems including mold.
>
>> Best of luck to all of you.
>
>> Mike, for  your headaches, have you tried wetting  a  folded paper
>> towel or cloth with CS and placing on forehead over eyes for a few
>> minutes--sometimes that's efeective even for migraines.
>
>> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
>   Hi Richard,
>
>   Thank you for your kind thoughts. I second Jonathan's post - finally
>   we have  someone with extensive knowledge and experience  in  a very
>   rare specialty.  Your  posts will be invaluable to  everyone  on the
>   list.
>
>   The headaches  seem to be caused by spores and not by the  toxic gas
>   produced by the fungus. I have a highly-modified HEPA face mask that
>   combines the  best features of the 3M valves with  the  light weight
>   and tight fit of the Northill. (Darned engineers can't  stop finding
>   ways to improve things, can we:)
>
>   Anyway, the  slightest  exposure  to  spores  gives  a  very violent
> 

RE: CS>OT Stones and parasites

[Kimberly Sharples]

I have herbal ways of getting rid of stones, parasites, yeast, env. toxins 
etc...

if you are interested, let me know
Kim




From: tomy thomson 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>OT Stones and parasites
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:20:10 +1000 (EST)

You can find easy to follow instructions on how to
build your own zapper at
microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com


/ --- Richard Harris  wrote: > Hi
Sharon,
> Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are
> very nice, helpful
> people and I recommend them highly. My wife & I
> recently purchased one and
> alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every
> day. I'm sure it's
> helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days
> before really commenting.
> There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9
> volt battery. I believe
> it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and
> very well designed and
> attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are
> customer friendly--have
> an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on
> your internet and read
> about all their fine products. Tell them I referred
> you--when we can report
> our successes, I hope to sell some of their items
> here in FL.
> Best regards,
> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites
>
>
> Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute-
>
> I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver
> medicine site,
> and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed
> that there was a
> lot of information suggesting the formation of
> stones in the liver
> and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have
> suggested that my
> dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney
> stones. Do you
> think there is any link between kindey stones and
> parasites? And does
> anyone have any formula for getting rid of the
> creatures ( since the
> altcancer stuff is not available any more. )
>
> Thanks
> Sharon
>
>
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> of colloidal silver.
>
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> silver-list@eskimo.com
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>
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Re: CS>Heated CS

[BioSil]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!  :O)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:51 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Heated CS


  Heating CS excessively causes increased Browing movement which can cause 
aggregation of the particles, increasing their size, and possibly causing 
precipitation. 
  Marshall 

  BioSil wrote: 

Hi all! Does anyone out there have any technical feedback on whether the 
properties of CS change when heated and/or boiled? Many thanks!Yvonne :o)

CS>Silver-List Commonly Used Acronyms

[Dan Nave]

Good Idea.  I'm re-posting it under a more apropos subject heading.

Dan

Re: CS>LVAC vs HVAC (was: Measuring very high ppms)

 From: Marv Hacker (view other messages by this author) 
 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:33:09 

Well said, JOH

Though I have been "out of commission" due to having launched a "Trojan
virus" into my computer system, (I have 500+ unopened), it sounds like it is
time to repeat the Glossary of Terms article that was contributed by James
Allison, and formatted by Mike Monette. Having this list helped me
immensely. Thank you!!!

 CS>Silver-List Commonly Used Acronyms

  Common Silver Acronyms:

  Ag+ : Silver Ion (i.e. positive charge)
  Ag  : Silver
  CS  : Colloidal Silver
  MSP : Mild Silver Protein

  Common Power Source Acronyms:

  A: Amps
  AC   : Alternating Current
  DC   : Direct Current
  HVAC : High Voltage Alternating Current
  LVDC : Low Voltage Direct Current
 (typically 3 or 4 nine volt batteries)
  mA   : milliamps
  mV   : Millivolts
  V: Volts

  Common Tester Acronyms:

  PWT  : Pure Water Tester (Hanna Instruments)
  TDS  : Total Dissolved Solids
  TDS1 : Total Dissolved Solids Tester
 (model 1 from Hanna Instruments)

  Common Testing and/or Measuring Acronyms:

  AA   : Atomic Absorption
  mg/L : Milligrams per Litre (= PPM for colloidal silver)
  mg   : Milligram
  mL   : Millilitre
  OZ   : Ounce
  PPB  : Parts Per Billion
  PPM  : Parts Per Million
  TE   : Tyndall Effect
  uS   : MicroSiemens

  Not specifically  CS  related, but still used  often  enough  on the
  Silver-List to be mentioned:

  ABX  : Antibiotics
  CC   : Colloidal Copper
  CG   : Colloidal Gold
  CMO  : Cetyl Myristoleate (dietary supplement)
  DMSO : Dimethyl Sulfoxide
  DW   : Distilled Water
  FDA  : Food and Drug Administration
  FTC  : Federal Trade Commission
  H2O2 : Hydrogen Peroxide
  HCl  : Hydrochloric Acid, (i.e. stomach acid)
  IV   : Intravenous
  MSM  : Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane (dietary supplement)
  NaCl : Table Salt
  RA   : Rheumatoid Arthritis

  Helpful Points and Definitions:

  in-vitro : Outside the body (test tube)
  in-vivo  : Inside the body

  PPM is  expressed  in  mg  per liter (i.e.  weight  of  silver  to a
  kilogram of water)

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  Yours in health,
  James Allison




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CS>new school of thought

[Sandy . Green]

There is a new school of thought in in cetain medical/scientific 
researchcircles that ALL illness' can be traced to bacteria and virus's ie.
infection of some kind.

Mike

I've read about a theory that mycoplasmas are causing a variety of auto-immune 
diseases, as well as chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and many others.  I 
personally have tested positive for several of the mycoplasmas.  CS and 
homeopathics are  very helpful.

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Re: CS>Mike D's cleanse

[M. G. Devour]

> Mike- whatever happened with the master cleanse you were doing?? I was
> waiting anxiously to hear if it worked for you. Sharon C

Oh, yes ... hi there Sharon!

I can say I completed 12 days of the fast, but it was admittedly marred 
towards the end by some inappropriate snacking. No miracles of healing 
occurred.

Since then I've focused on filling out my "order of battle" with the 
components of the Beck four step protocol:  zapping, magnetic pulsing, 
CS and ozone. I should be ready Real Soon Now(tm).

As Eeyore used to say, "Thanks for thinking of me."

Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure

[Waddle986]

Marshalee

What kind of potassium?  Gluconate or citrate and how much?

Waddle


In a message dated 10/7/2003 7:44:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
mama...@netzero.net writes:

> Subj: CS>CS>Blood pressure 
>  Date: 10/7/2003 7:44:44 AM Pacific Standard Time
>  From: mailto:mama...@netzero.net";>mama...@netzero.net
>  Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com
>  To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent from the Internet 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Christine, 
> Have her take Potassium. High BP is caused by an imbalance between Sodium 
> (NA) and Potassium (K) intake in the food. (No more potato crisps!)
>  There`s a great book called "The K Factor" which explains it. Hopefully you 
> can find it at your library, or if all else fails, on Amazon.
>  Marshalee
>  PS, I`m 51, and am heavy. My BP is good because I take Potassium, and my 
> blood sugar is good, as I take Vanadium! Amazing what the docs don`t know...
> 
> >> Hi
>>   
>> My mother is taking two lots of tablets to help control her high blood 
>> pressure.  I think she's been on them for about two years now and it's not 
>> really improving.  Would CS help with high blood pressure?
>>   
>> Christine Wyndham-Thomas
>> 
>> 
> 

<>

CS>High blood pressure

[Judydownmaine]

I haven’t written to the list about dehydration and blood pressure for some
time. Older people (I’m 68) are more apt to drink insufficient water – I’m a
coffee-lover too, which seems to be dehydrating. My BP (even with meds) kept
going up.  Doctors never commented on water intake. My kidneys started to
hurt and I realized I had to do something radical. I began drinking “One
half my weight divided by eight” for the number of 8 ounce glasses to drink
per day, Within a week I felt greatly improved, no more kidney or joint
pain, and I eventually dropped BP meds.  If I am not rigorous about water
intake my BP rises.
Please check out www.watercure.com   and
www.watercure2.com 
.
I was also taking CS internally (about ¼ cup of 10 ppm 4 times per day) and
suspect I killed off some “buglets” in my system. At that same time  “age
spots” on my face disappeared. What were they a symptom of?

I don’t believe that an absolute “no!” re CS and BP is necessarily
ccurate  -- perhaps a reaction to those microorganisms was also involved
with BP?  Just a thought.

Judy Down Maine

Re: CS>Re: Silverpuppy and HVAC vs LVDC

[Ode Coyote]

  Ah  Elle..a clue

Quebec?

Shipped on 10/8/03

Ode [Ken]

 PS   Sorry 'bout the list traffic, but this seems to be the only road
that's open just now.



At 07:19 PM 10/9/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks for the response.  I'm not doubting Ken's honesty, actually, but 
>rather let impatience get the best of me.  I lost the order information 
>including order number (something that should have been printed out).  I'm 
>still not completely comfortable using my charge card over the internet 
>(although I still do it) and got a little antsy.  Thanks for the reassurance 
>though.
>
>About HVAC vs LVDC... I'm not wanting to make HVAC myself, but rather am 
>interested if there are differences in efficacy.  Something tells me that 
>the jury is still out on that question.
>
>One more thing, Mike, I'm not sure it's only Sympatico that is screwy, I'm 
>receiving the SilverList posts in very mixed order here at Hotmail.
>
>thanks again,
>Elle
>
>
> > Ken just posted he had a severe headache for three days. I'm sure he
> > is trying to catch up and will reply as soon as possible.
>
> > He is extremely honest. You have nothing to worry about.
>
> > BTW: good choice:)
>
> > I just saw your request for info on HVAC vs LVDC. Stick with LVDC.
>
> > HVAC is lethal due to the high voltage and could kill.
>
> > LVDC probably produces higher ionic concentration. The silverpuppy
> > is one of the best designs available.
>
>>Best Regards,
>
>>Mike Monett
>
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Re: CS>Silverpuppy

[Ode Coyote]

  If you tell me who you are???

 Is this Eleanor?
I've recieved several inquiries about order status and the lack of
confirmation but the email addresses bounce the messages.

Ode [Ken]

At 12:08 PM 10/9/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>hi guys,
>
>i read several recommendations on this list for the silverpuppy and decided 
>to purchase one on Monday.  i`ve since tried to contact the company about my 
>order and have sent two e-mails but i haven`t received a response.  i heard 
>that the owner frequents this list so i`m hoping they will see this.
>
>thanks.
>
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RE: CS>Ebay ban of CS

[Ode Coyote]

  Looks like they got over it.

Ode

At 10:17 AM 10/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Except that, if you search on ebay for "colloidal"  --  there are 38
>items at the moment.  Meters, instructions, but also silver, gold,
>copper (and oatmeal) . . . Ban???
>Lally
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CS>Re: Measuring very high ppms

[Jrowland]

> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63303.html
> ...I always use ppm calculated, or ppmc,
Yes.
> ...to indicate this is the highest possible ppm obtainable...
You may inherently know this, but I believe this is the first time
you have actually stated it.
> ...Then measure the actual ppm to see how much was lost in the process.
What or who's specific verification method of measurement would satisfy you?
You have consistently begged-off getting any testing done, citing "too many
variables".
> ...It is so obvious, I can't see how anyone can think otherwise.
Pretend, just for a moment, you are a newbie to CS production.
> Are we on the same page now?
We're getting there...
jr


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Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I think the main difference is in the waveform and the frequencies.   
If memory serves me the Beck unit has a square waveform and low 
frequencies that produce many resonant frequencies.You can find a 
lot of info. on the SOTA site.Peter Lindeman's  remark about the 
Zapper is something to effect that it kills the pathogens a bit faster 
than it kills you.He considers the device harmful.   I believe this 
was based on the waveform and also perhaps the current (direct as 
opposed to alternating.)I am not an expert in this topic or 
completely up to date as I have only dabbled with blood 
electrification.   In my limited experience using an Omron TENS unit 
for blood electrification,  it clears up lung infections very quickly.  
 That is all I can say.




JBB




On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 11:10 Asia/Tokyo, Sharon wrote:


Hey JBB, in what respect is it different, do you know?
THanks
Sharon


Hi, list,

Just to clarify:  the name "zapper" corresponds to the Hulda Clark 
device,  which is different in various respects from the device 
designed by Bob Beck.


A writer named Peter Lindeman claims the Beck device is superior;  I 
have heard of good results from both devices.


JBB




On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 06:13 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:


Hi Sharon,
Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are very nice, 
helpful
people and I recommend them highly. My wife & I recently purchased 
one and

alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every day. I'm sure it's
helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days before really 
commenting.
There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9 volt battery. I 
believe
it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and very well 
designed and
attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are customer 
friendly--have
an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on your internet and 
read
about all their fine products. Tell them I referred you--when we can 
report

our successes, I hope to sell some of their items here in FL.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
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From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT Stones and parasites


Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute-

I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver medicine site,
and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed that there was a
lot of information suggesting the formation of stones in the liver
and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have suggested that my
dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney stones. Do you
think there is any link between kindey stones and parasites? And does
anyone have any formula for getting rid of the creatures ( since the
altcancer stuff is not available any more. )

Thanks
Sharon


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RE: CS>alzheimers and cs?

[Smith, Michael]

<< I thought this article might be of interest to the list.  I didn't know 
there was a theory that alzheimers might be caused by a bacteria... 
interesting. >>

There is a new school of thought in in cetain medical/scientific research
circles that ALL illness' can be traced to bacteria and virus's ie.
infection of some kind.


Mike 




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Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms, mold

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi Mike, I just know you haven't got enough to do yet (yeah, Right!) but 
when I read of the drift of 'stuff' from the neighbors apt. below it 
reminded me of something that has also been an allergy problem;  the almost 
- or actually - microscopic bits of synthetic fibers shed from our clothes. 
Something like a Toxic Shock to the nostrils??
Have you tried the better quality electrostatic air cleaners like the 
Freidrichs?  I haven't yet, but hope to set it up soon.

"Further, present deponent saith not."
Take care,  Malcolm

At 08:11 PM 10/8/03 -0400, you wrote:


url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63249.html
Re: CS>Measuring very high ppms, mold
From: Malcolm Stebbins
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:47

  > Hi Mike,  Thanks  for your previous post
  > Meanwhile, regarding  the presencc of headache producing  mold and
  > spores in  your  environment,  have  you  tried  using  the common
  > copper-based garden  spray solutions  (Kop-r-spray,  Liqui-cop are
  > ones around  here)?
  Hi Malcom,

  Thank you  very  much for your kind words. I  searched  the  web for
  sporicides many  times,  but never came  across  those  two products
  until now. I'll get more information - Thanks!


  More research  indicated copper is used as a  fungicide  in treating
  grapes, and by people who grow roses.

  Feeling somewhat  grapey and rosy, I decided to give it  a  try.


Aahhh, Yes!  The dreaded Grapey-Rosey syndrome, know it well.




  The tenants  downstairs  live  a   normal  life,  and  their fabrics
  generate a constant supply of new spores.
Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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