Re: CS>germ count

2003-12-22 Thread Rowena Evans
The other day when I was in the city I went to my homeopath and got
checked out on the Interro computer assisted diagnostic thingy that I
spoke about  once before - complete with list of just about everything
it had ever found in me.

I don't think I've ever had such a good report.  Need absolutely no
vits and mins which has never happened before.  What few germs there
were were negligible.  Klebsiella was one; I was given Sanukehl Klebs
D6 for that, a German preparation.  So, I guess that though I haven't
been on ColSil for long, it's doing a good job!  Traces of Influenza A
& B (when I got severe cold/flu
autoimmune disease, ankylosing spondylitis, is thought to be a
possible sequela at the end of our winter, it was over in three days,
and previous to that I got nothing at all) and hardly any candida.
Really small readings of all.

http://www.personalmd.com/news/klebsiella_102299.shtml

autoimmune disease, ankylosing spondylitis, is thought to be a
possible sequela www.medinfo.ufl.edu/year2/mmid/
bms5300/bugs/klebpne.html


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CS>Spider and snakebite headings

2003-12-22 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Rowena,

At 11:42 AM 12/23/03 +0800, you wrote:

People, dear people - please don't forget your subject headings - the
most interesting snake bite/ spiderbite / antivenene electro treatment
correspondence is taking place under "Need engineering help"


  I have been concerned about that because when I first got this bite, I 
searched the archives for spider bit and re-read most of the messages about 
the technicalities of ignition systems.


Of course they are more interesting anyway, except for one thing, .
I was wondering what in the heck shall I do about my spider bite.

Finally I figured it out, .. I think.  The critter is looking much 
better. should put up a picture or two tomorrow am.


Wayne

 



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Re: CS>Electroacupuncture devices for spider bites?

2003-12-22 Thread Rowena Evans
Subject: CS>Electroacupuncture devices for spider bites?


> a simple acu-point stimulator device works fine on mosquito bites
> and might work on the more powerful venom of spiders.  I am not sure
of the output on the devices as I have, and they are no  longer in
production.

 The Enar (and Scenar) devices have an attachment which can be used
for acupuncture points.  I came across a site once where people
normally using acupuncture were enthusing about it as being the
breakthrough blah blah.  Leaves skin intact etc.  As I mentioned
before, people have used it on spider bites here in Aus, where we have
some interesting insect life!

Also there is a kind of brush attachment which can be used in hairy
parts, and another, as I recall, with a kind of Y-device at the end.

Sites:
  http://www.scenar.info
www.enlightenedtherapies.com

http://www.scott-mumby.com/miscellaneous/scenar.html
There is also a site for invet that I can't find, email is
m...@invet.net
ruby...@industryinet.com


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Re: CS>Need Engineering Help Spider and snakebite headings

2003-12-22 Thread Rowena Evans
People, dear people - please don't forget your subject headings - the
most interesting snake bite/ spiderbite / antivenene electro treatment
correspondence is taking place under "Need engineering help" - can you
think on at least to add to if not change the subject line completely
so we can refer more easily to the fascinating info and people can
find it in the archives in due course?
Thanks
Rowena


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CS>Public disclosure of patentable products/services

2003-12-22 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Good point, Marshall.   The "system"  is in many ways a serious 
impediment to everyone.In that regard,  please note the importance 
of published disclosure of unpatented inventions in a public forum,  as 
a way of preventing "greedheads"  from keeping useful products, 
services, and methods out of circulation.


For example:  I claim as my invention the combination of bloodroot 
tincture with colloidal silver and colloidal gold.   I claim that these 
are two novel, unobvious products that I have invented.   Further,  I 
claim that I have invented a new process or method,  by which bloodroot 
acts as a delivery vehicle or vector of CS and/or CG,  thus providing a 
new process for directing a colloidal substance into damaged tissues,  
particularly cancerous tumors.


I further claim that this product/process can be shown to provide 
unique therapeutic benefits which greatly exceed the known or 
hypothesized benefits of either class of substance -- bloodroot and 
CS/CG -- when used separately.


And I can go on and on and on at great length,  in the requisite PTO 
verbiage,  until everyone is quite sick of reading.   Whey would one do 
this?   The reasons are simple:


1)	If a person wants to bring such a product to the marketplace,  he or 
she or it -- a corporate entity -- can do so without fear of a patent 
later making the true inventor unable to use the invention.


2)	Public disclosure discourages the greedy from keeping lifesaving 
products, services, or potential products and services out of the 
marketplace during the pursuit of patentable attributes or derivatives.


This whole topic is a wee bit arcane,  but the public disclosure of 
patentable products and services is becoming increasingly common,  I 
have read,  by persons or companies who feel that the whole patent 
system is not working to their benefit, or to anyone else's.


Other inventors and researchers on this list might want to take 
advantage of this known means of dealing with the deficiencies of the 
existing patent system through public disclosure.   Given the behavior 
of certain unnamed companies,  this whole topic may be worth more 
discussion, particularly apropos CS and other colloidal products.   
Gold is hot right now apropos cancer.  It would be too bad if low-coat 
methods were prevented by patents that grant monopoly profits to those 
who seek wealth at the expense of (affordable)  health.







Cheers,



JBB





On Monday, Dec 22, 2003, at 23:28 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:

The potential is there, but I doubt any of them could afford the $10 
million it wold cost to get it approved.


Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

Thanks to both gentlemen for the reply. I am glad to see such 
caveats. Let's keep our eyes peeled for a good custom-made venom 
neutralizer. One of these stun-gun companies must recognize the 
market potential . . . .


JBB

On Friday, Dec 19, 2003, at 23:16 Asia/Tokyo, Matthew McCann PE wrote:

 G'Morning, Jon and Wayne,

 Wayne is correct in that I was
 contemplating a variety of possible
 situations. The presence of an
 assistant would help prevent too
 many hands and legs of one person
 getting involved. An assistant could
 also apply CPR in case of an
 accidental ventricular fibrillation.
 Don't depend on just the plastic
 handle's insulation.Maxwell's equations
 predict surface currents can flow
 on dielectric interfaces. Also, the
 stun gun generates higher voltages
 than some Wimhurst machines and
 even Van de Graff generators. Both
 exhibit arcing across air gaps.

 Best wishes,

 Matthew



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CS>Influenza and the eyes

2003-12-22 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hello, Members of the List.

With all the publicity about the 'flu
and the lack of vaccine, I looked up
Albert Searle's 1920 CS protocol.

Searle wrote that CS is both 
prophylactic and curative for the
'flu when used to gargle the throat,
applied as a spray to the nostrils
AND bathing the eyes.

There is a device called "Sqeeze Breeze"
that combines a sprayer and a fan.
Its ordinary use is to chill the air by
evaporation when the weather is hot.
I bought a SqueezeBreeze for just a
couple dollars (off-season discount)
and tried it with CS. I was able to bathe
my eyes comfortably with CS. In fact,
it was quite a soothing feeling.

Best regards,

Matthew

Re: CS>Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-22 Thread S & J Young
Jeff,

The filter is also the transport mechanism (a wick) to move the liquid up to
the top of the filter where it contacts the ultrasonic vibrating "plate".
If you take off the filter cartridge and open the "lid" and view the "plate"
in front of a strong light on the other side of the plate, you will notice
the "plate" is more like a very fine mesh screen and the liquid goes right
through it and is ejected as a fine mist out from the top side of it.

I don't know if the CS particles make it up through the wick, or just
eventually clog up the filter.  The H2O plus silver ions will have no
problem being "wicked-up" and converted to mist.

My unit has quit for some reason.  Guess in hindsight I would try to find an
ultrasonic nebulizer that does not depend on a filter/wick to transport the
CS to the ultrasonically vibrating element.

--Steve


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From: "sscsr1" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier


> I just bought the personal ultrasonic humidifier from Walgreens. I doesn't
> seem to work without the filter inserted. It has a stick like white filter
> that inserts into what I think is a barrel shaped charcoal filter ( they
> refer to as a water purifier that needs replaced annually). I am wondering
> if the silver will be able to get past all that and still be effective. I
> use the silverpuppy to make my CS. The thing doesn't seem to work at all
> without the stick filter in place. Any thoughts on if this is a waste of
> time and money or not?
>
> Jeff




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CS>clever Canada-ins???

2003-12-22 Thread David S Osborne

geee, I wonder if they coulda put the sage in der capsulz demselvz??

http://www.herbsmd.com/shop/xq/asp/pid.8304/qx/productdetail.htm

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Re: CS>Need engineering help

2003-12-22 Thread Al Davis
Marshall Dudley wrote:

> > There needs to be a time element associated with this as well.  That
> > is, even a microamp at a millivolt, would produce this much energy
> > over a long enough time. My guess is that is it for 60 hertz, which
> > would be about 8 milliseconds. But even so that number seems very
> > fishy. Lets say you are looking at one pulse of 60 hertz, which is
> > 8.33 milliseconds.  If you have 10 volts the the amount of current to
> > exceed this would be 162 AMPS  This would be far beyond deadly.
> >
>
> Marshall
>

It would also be far beyond possibility.  10 volts is not capable of driving
162 amps through your body. The resistance would have to be .06 ohms.

Any device you use should be limited to about 5 mA. This would require
2700 volts to produce 13.5 watts for 1 sec.  or 0.5 mA @ 27,000 volts.

Hope this helps.:)

Al Davis (Ex Navy electrician)



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CS>Need engineering help

2003-12-22 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Marshall!

Thank you very much for your
thought-provoking example.
Stungun manufacturers and
vendors are using a unit of
"pulse-watts" to describe the
output of the devices. I haven't
seen a concise definition of a
pulse-watt. Do you happen to
know what this unit means?

Best regards,

Matthew

Re: CS>Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold

2003-12-22 Thread fig227

Pride labs are not charlatans. They are not a bunch of dopey characters.
I'll get back to you with their answer.

Dan





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To: 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold


> Dan,
>
> I don't give a d-mn what Pride Lbs say, but arcing gold in air is a
> disaster
>
> Does you product have any color. Without a light violet color you do not
> have CG. I have done the design work and spent the money for the AA's to
> verufy my work. Without a lab analysis you aare being very foolish.
>
> "Ole Bob" P.E.
>
> fig...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >Thanks. I shall ask Pride labs support. Arcing method goes much faster
than
> >submersion of both electrodes. They prefer it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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CS>CS:> RE Tooth abscess

2003-12-22 Thread Harold MacDonald
When I was a kid awy back in the dirty thirties,living out on a farm in
the country,a lng way from dentists,and not having money for dental
work,when I got a cavity in a tooth with all the attendant pain and misery;I
would crumple up a large piece of heavy brown paper,put it on a large dinner
plate,light it.It would leave a tarry residue on the plate which I would mop
up with a small ball of cotton-batten.I would then jam this into the cavity
and bite down on it hard."OH ! BLESSED RELIEF!!!";this would stop the pain
and in most cases last for up to a week.There was very little money so I
would have to wait a long time to see a dentist.These were the GOOD OLD
DAYS,HA!!
Best of the Season to All
Harold


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Re: CS>Negative press for Cs on Lyme site

2003-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
High concentration of silver nitrate is caustic.

The #1 definition of cuastic is that which causes tissue damage, which strong
silver nitrate does.
The number two definition is a strong acid.

At http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/caustic you will find that
Websters 1913 dictionary lists the following:

Caustic silver}, nitrate of silver, lunar caustic.

Cuastic is basic when it refers to caustic soda, but the term in general is
much more broad than that.

It also kills bacteria, so I see nothing wrong with the text that you quoted.

Marshall

Albert Peirce wrote:

> This guy should have stayed in football. In his third response to the
> "KAIRE" claims he states that silver nitrate is "caustic" and does kill
> bacteria. Silver nitrate is made by dissolving silver metal in nitric acid
> and unless you neutralize it with an excess of hydroxide it remains acidic.
> Regards, Al
> - Original Message -
> From: "J & S Campbell" 
> To: "silver-list" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 11:49 AM
> Subject: CS>Negative press for Cs on Lyme site
>
> > http://www.lymealliance.org/research/grier/grier_8.php
> >
> > Hi there, was looking up sites on lyme and came across this negative,
> > inaccurate article about CS, anyone out there got the knowledge,
> brainpower
> > to correct this guy?
> > BW,
> > Sheila
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CS>Happy Chrisrmas and thanks

2003-12-22 Thread J & S Campbell
Hi All, just to wish you all the very best for Christmas and all blessings
for the New Year and thanks so much to every one for all the amazing info
and knowledge shared on this list,
BW,
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Re: CS>Health via mind over body

2003-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
Richard Harris wrote:

> Hi SilverTedEBear,
>
> Sorry about your poor CS experience--but feel you need to inquire about the
> REST of the BECK PROTOCOL and extend your treatments to include the other 3
> parts.

Indeed. I have posted many times that advanced cases of lyme often require all
the protocol to eliminate.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Micro-amps and Watch Batteries

2003-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
The potential is there, but I doubt any of them could afford the $10 million it 
wold cost to get it approved.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

> Thanks to both gentlemen for the reply. I am glad to see such caveats. Let's 
> keep our eyes peeled for a good custom-made venom neutralizer. One of these 
> stun-gun companies must recognize the market potential . . . .
>
> JBB
>
> On Friday, Dec 19, 2003, at 23:16 Asia/Tokyo, Matthew McCann PE wrote:
>
>  G'Morning, Jon and Wayne,
>
>  Wayne is correct in that I was
>  contemplating a variety of possible
>  situations. The presence of an
>  assistant would help prevent too
>  many hands and legs of one person
>  getting involved. An assistant could
>  also apply CPR in case of an
>  accidental ventricular fibrillation.
>  Don't depend on just the plastic
>  handle's insulation.Maxwell's equations
>  predict surface currents can flow
>  on dielectric interfaces. Also, the
>  stun gun generates higher voltages
>  than some Wimhurst machines and
>  even Van de Graff generators. Both
>  exhibit arcing across air gaps.
>
>  Best wishes,
>
>  Matthew


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Re: CS>Need engineering help

2003-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
Matthew McCann PE wrote:

> Rice University's electrical engineeringlaboratory has a good on-line
> report onamounts of hazardous electricity.(see website for lab course
> ELEC 241.)According to this, the threshold forventricular fibrillation
> is given inwatt-seconds, i.e. energy, not current.The threshold is
> 13.5 watt-seconds.
>
>
> There needs to be a time element associated with this as well.  That
> is, even a microamp at a millivolt, would produce this much energy
> over a long enough time. My guess is that is it for 60 hertz, which
> would be about 8 milliseconds. But even so that number seems very
> fishy. Lets say you are looking at one pulse of 60 hertz, which is
> 8.33 milliseconds.  If you have 10 volts the the amount of current to
> exceed this would be 162 AMPS  This would be far beyond deadly.
>

Marshall


RE: CS>Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote
 If you can run it without the charcoal filter, that'll help.

Try running some CS through the stick filter.  If you can't..

Try condensing the mist onto a cool plate and letting it drip into a shot glass or something.
Shine a laser through it looking for TE...taste it.

That oughta tell the story.

The ionic portion 'should' make it through any filter that doesn't do ion exchange. [Does activated charcoal do that?]
The particulate portion is about .05 to .13 microns.  Some may get trappped on the internal surface area of the filter pores but most 'ought to' make it through after a while.
It would take a heck of a filter to filter that out.

..might BE a heck of a filter though...

Ode


At 04:37 PM 12/21/2003 -0600, you wrote: 

I just bought the personal ultrasonic humidifier from Walgreens. I doesnt seem to work without the filter inserted. It has a stick like white filter that inserts into what I think is a barrel shaped charcoal filter ( they refer to as a water purifier that needs replaced annually). I am wondering if the silver will be able to get past all that and still be effective. I use the silverpuppy to make my CS. The thing doesnt seem to work at all without the stick filter in place. Any thoughts on if this is a waste of time and money or not?

Jeff

 

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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

 

Thank you, I bought one from Wal-mart and it is just a small sump cooler type, no mist. I can't afford to order one that would be the same, with no mist. I have a Miniature air Humidifier that puts out a good mist but it won't run without the filter in it.

 

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From: daddybob 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: CS>Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

 

Hey Hank- I checked that page with 3 different search
terms but did not see it there.

I don't have the box in front of me right now but the
information on the bottom of the box as posted by
Richard Harris is the same as mine.

We liked it so much- then our oldest daughter came
down sick yesterday so we let her take it home, and we
went to our Walgreen's last night and bought the last
one. I could have sworn I paid 17.99 for the first
one, and the price last night was 19.99. If I'm right,
then that sure doesn't sound like anything they're
going to discontinue. Maybe it's new and not on the
site yet?

Middle daughter and wife both used it last night, and
wife at about 3 AM this morning.

This is my first use of an ultrasonic humidifier. If
the larger ones work the same, with a big strong mist,
then I'm sure you could do it with another one, just
not as conveniently.

Daddybob

 


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Re: CS>Spider Bite Cleanup

2003-12-22 Thread Rowena Evans
Another gadget to bear in mind for bites (as well as a host of other
things) is the Scenar and Enar.  In Australia, the Enar has been used
for spider and other bites.  The Scenar is the professional model at
about five times the price, but the Enar does just about everything,
just doesn't have readouts etc.
www.enlightenedtherapies.com
Rowena


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Re: CS>Zapper

2003-12-22 Thread Rowena Evans


> OK, I've finally decided that a zapper is what I need.  Which one do
you all
> prefer?
>
Make sure you also check out the Enar and Scenar devices.  I bought an
Enar.
Rowena


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