Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
Why would a gas water heater have an anode? It's just a tank with a dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame underneath. Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks. Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not uncommon to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually it's good mineral free well water run through them. Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside. ode At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: James Holmes wrote: The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters is made of mostly magnesium. True. Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel tank. But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood this. Marshall JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com>mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Gatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I believe, but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies electric hot water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition to what a gas one would have. Marshall James Holmes wrote: Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not, where does the tungsten originate?JOH -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com>mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze seeps toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not buy water from your health food store that runs through a long plastic hose from their bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible clear plastic). Also ask them how and when they clean their tank. Best is to observe that it is done with non-toxic methods. If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the galvanized pipe to PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly, the water is free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't wait for cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the copper pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask a plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive, too. If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the metal pipe on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are polluted with strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The salts corrode the pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. After changing your pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and hardness left, you may not need a softener. If the water comes from a well, consider changing the well-pipe to PVC to get rid of iron. While the well is open, have the pump checked for ! PC! BS. Call the Health Department to arrange the testing. If you must have softening after all this, check into the new magnetic varieties of water softener (although they only work well when used with plastic plumbing).- http://www.drclark.net/info/home.htm>http://www.drclark.net/info/home.htm Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. The five substances polluting our water that she is most concerned about are PCBs, benzene, asbestos, azo dyes, and heavy metals. The worst pollutant seems to be azo dyes (there are at least 18 of them). Dr. Clark has not found a way to remove them from the body. The most likely source for PCBs, benzene and azo dyes may well be common laundry bleach. The main ingredient (sodium hypochlorite) is not the problem. The additives (brighteners and whiteners) and solvents are the problem. To verify this she needs us to send water samples to her for testing. At the end of this message is a detailed instruction about how to collect water samples. She would also like us to see if there are pumping stations separate from the main water
Re: CSa Dimensionless Quantity
At 08:37 AM 2/4/2004 -0800, you wrote: Hi Ken, Using a pump, the water flow is more nondirectional with all sorts of eddies or can be directed at some angle rather than perpendicular to the electrodes so the water currents will tend to blow bubbles off rather than compressing them on. A pump just has to work better than a stir stick especially if the water is drawn off the top or bottom and re-introduced oppositely making a roiling motion rather than a highly directional vertically oriented vortex containing well structured horizontal currents. I don't have the same experience as you do regarding stirring using a pump. The pump used in the SG7 Pro makes the water move vigorously. One can see the water surface roiling sometimes. There may be a buildup but since we reverse the electrode polarity it really never sticks. It gets blown off the cathode(s) each revesal. The electrodes never need cleaning. [ As quoted from the unwritten book of Ways To Speed Things Up] That's because the gen is trying to bring the entire container of water up to a conductivity level that draws the set current rather than gaining a higher conductivity fast in a smaller space, then distributing it. If you run the gen without stirring for the first part of the batch, let a goodly number of ions build up between the electrodes, then turn stirring on when it does the most good, that initial 'ramp up to control' time is greatly reduced without negatively affecting the quality of the CS. It's like, self seeding in a way. Otherwise, running two small batches is much faster than running one batch as large as both small ones. 2 pint batches take , say, 2 hours each but a single quart could take 5 hours or more. [And that's also why timers cannot work even when using current control unless intial conductivity is brought to a given level first] But if the water quality [conductivity] is such that there is no ramp up time...a pint is a pint is a pint no matter how many are in the container. Ode I didn't notice that problem with the SG6 Auto which uses a DC motor and does not have polarity reversal. What I did notice was that it takes a long time to get up to production speed when the motor runs fast. I slowed it down to a few hundred RPM's. We used to use a 30 RPM and then 40 RPM gearhead AC motors but they didn't shutoff automatically. The DC motors now shut down with generator shut down. I don't understand why we have such different experience. Trem - Original Message - From: mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net>Ode Coyote To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:41 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>a Dimensionless Quantity Taking the measurement is less of an end result quality problem than that which prevents it being accurate. The goal is to not have significant buildups in the first place. It can be done by avoiding the conditions that make the buildups heavy. [one of which is stirring at too high a water velocity] That's easy but hard to instruct or convey exactly what that velocity is when stir rate is variable for different containers. The key is to stir 'all' the water slowly. The easiest way to do that is design the gen for one particular container and batch size...or use a circulation pump. I can't seem to find one that's small enough and isn't made to operate submerged. Then comes reliability problems with moving parts wearing out or becoming corroded in a wet environment..and operator abuse/neglect. The ideal design would eliminate all those factors and still work perfectly and uniformly under any conditions with any sized container...plus include the engineers creed KISS [keep it simple stupid..and..keep it inexpensive?] A smallish gravity fed flow-through reaction chamber might be a way to go. Ode At 01:20 PM 2/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi again, Ode, Come to think of it, there is a way to sidestep the problem of by-product build-up altogether. The dimensionless quantity, a ratio of differences of resistances, need not be taken across the reaction electrodes. A third and fourth silver electrodes can by put in the vessel just for measurement purposes. It would be easy to switch back and forth between the two pairs using a modification of a full-wave rectifier bridge circuit. Matthew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSA Dimensionless Quantity
My vote goes to the zoo. This stuff can get SO WEIRD! ..then it does something different. :-) Ode At 09:45 AM 2/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Ode, Thanks for your reply. Monovalency for the silver seems to be implicit in most calculations I have seen in applying Faraday's Electrolysis Equation to the generation of EIS/CS. But it just seems monovalency is assumed. I hope the chemists let us know why we don't allow for polyvalency when silver sinters off the anode :-) If we do get a zoo of cations coming off the anode, then the time-integral of the current is proportional to just an upper bound on the amount of silver released, not the amount of silver itself. This makes things complicated. It makes assaying all the more important. Part of the answer may exist in the decay of short-lived carriers after the electrolysis ends. If there is only one 1/e time in the decay process, this would indicate there is only one species decaying. A complicated decay with two or more 1/e times means there's a zoo of species passing through. Best regards, Matthew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
I rather suspect the opposite is true. I'd have to double check with the neighbors but it's always been my impression that sugars are used to flavor and preserve the tobacco. Certainly sugar isn't used on sugar cured ham and bacon to promote fungi growth. [Curing hams is another favorite pastime induged in by the neighbors] Here in tobacco land, it's extremely humid. If you don't wash your car, it gets fuzzy with slime and mold, then snails write hieroglyphics on it. Nothing much grows in pure sugar and honey. It's probable that a good dried coating of sugar helps preserve like using salt. During harvest time, I pick up a few leaves and try to process them. The road sides are littered with tobacco leaves. My attempts never turn out. Curing is a real art. Here I am literally surrounded by tobacco farmers. I should know more about it. ..in the North Carolina country side around Sanford. Yellow pine lumber, hogs and tobacco country. Lots of jimson weed too. [ Ate some once long ago and had a great time, but never again will I do that!] BTW Drum from the Netherlands is good smokes. [ Virginian tobacco? ...80 miles North of here.] Ode At 04:19 PM 2/5/2004 +0100, you wrote: Tobacco is cured, meaning that sugar is added for the FERMENTATION PROCESS that takes place, producing contaminations such as yeast or fungi. The mycotoxin fusarium, found in cigarettes, has been linked with lung cancer, esophageal cancer, and cancer of the uterus. So whenever you light one up you are, in essence smoking yeast or fungi. If your immune system is unable to deal with these pathogens, then it's time to face the music. One very interesting note is that the mycotoxin called cyclosporin used for organ transplants, causes cancer, high blood fats (hyperlipidemia), and hardening of the arteries (atherosclerosis) in anyone who receives it. An astounding 100% of all cyclosporin susers get cancer! All the best, Jan Stoeten, The Netherlands - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer My wife starts getting hiccups after about 5 cigarettes. I get hiccups every time I eat pork skins. She then stops for the day. I stop when I finish the bag. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
hi the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold ionic solutions. this seems pretty new for a home generator. i know water oz proprietary process claims to use another process rather than our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals. http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ colloidal_gold_generator.htm i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at the above link, but if anyone wishes to spend the time i would be happy for an off the cuff comment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Lyme
You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's MYCOPLASMA The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I know Donald Scott and can personally vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar with his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly reccommend it. All the best Jan Stoeten - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: CSRe: Lyme http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus most of the time. Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have a copy of the patent for it. It is held by The United States Army. JOH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
I have had 2 abcess teeth in the last 2 months, and a cold in between that just won't go away. I have had 2 sets of antibiotic prescriptions to rid the abcesses. Smoking, or specifically nicotine causes constricted circulation, and in the mouth the result is gum disease and infections. True, cigarettes are a difficult addiction to dump, but if health really means something to you smokers and you are pursuing alternative means of achieving it, why not apply some alternative methods to dumping that addiction? After a few months of experiencing real health you will wonder why it took you so long. Here is a website describing a method that I would really like to hear feedback on, since it is so simple and free. Challenge: see if it works and report back. EFT- Emotion Freeing Technique- is based on tapping on certain acupuncture points in given pattern and works by freeing emotional bondages, using the tapping and also postive self-affirming statements. The website has lots of testimonies and a free tutorial to download. Many areas of health can be affected by the emotions. Nancy http://www.emofree.com Dear Gary, Reading Glenn Turner's one point wonder posting has prompted me to write to you for the first time to see what you think about this experience. I am an Occupational Health Nurse at an alumina refinery in Western Australia and I use EFT frequently in my work setting for both counselling purposes and together with Bowen Therapy, which is a physical therapy About 6 months ago a refinery worker, who had been a smoker for 35 years, approached me for assistance to give up. He had tried several times over the years with no success. I explained the conventional approaches available, followed by a quick explanation of the tapping method . Our discussion was very brief as I had a line of people waiting to be seen. He said he would give the tapping stuff a go. This was Monday morning and I was not able to give him an appointment until Friday. On Thursday morning he left a message for me to say that he had not had a cigarette since we had last spoken (we had not discussed when he would actually stop). When he came for his appointment he was very excited about having not had a cigarette and could not understand why I had asked him to make sure he brought one with him. He was unable to reproduce the feeling of a craving, so I started the process of getting him to look at the cigarette and think about smoking it etc. Still no craving. He just kept saying things like I don't want to smoke it and I don't think I'll ever smoke again, which I thought was coming from a fear of associating fully and having a strong craving. I then held the cigarette under his nose and he drew back saying it makes me feel sick - I asked him to try a dry drag, at which point he started dry retching. I was quite taken aback and unsure of where to go from there. I tried the treating any anxiety approach with very little success. This gentleman had stretched his usual boundaries a great deal to even consider this method and wasn't going to get into any of that psychology stuff. We made another appointment for a week later - he still wasn't smoking and said he'd had no cravings. This time I questioned him in great detail about what he had done in that first week. Eventually we established that after we first spoke, he had sat in front of TV in the evenings and had been tapping the centre of his forehead and repeatedly saying smoking, smoking, smoking (During our initial conversation I had briefly tapped the eyebrow point to demonstrate when I explained EFT.) From this, it appeared that he had already dealt with his addiction by the time he saw me for the first session. Any further attempts to get him to sniff or dry drag on a cigarette produced nausea or dry retching and any attempts to do any tapping met with it's OK, I won't be smoking any more. GC COMMENT: The center of the forehead is known as the Third Eye and is one of the chakras. It is also in the vicinity of the eyebrow points. It is not one of the specific EFT tapping points but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be used. There are energy points all over the body. VALERIE CONTINUES: I saw him 3 months later and he was still not smoking, and said that on the few occasions he had wanted a cigarette, he only had to tap between his eyebrows a few times and the urge would go. I saw him again today, 7 months later and he is still a non-smoker. Interestingly enough, he was very stressed about a personal issue, but didn't think the tapping stuff would be of any help! GC COMMENT: Isn't that a hoot? People have been conditioned to think that a given problem has a given solution (e.g. a headache can be helped by aspirin) and thus have a hard time believing that the same procedure can be used for everything. It just doesn't fit normal beliefs. To say that tapping could help smoking AND an emotional issue is, to them, like saying that aspirin helps a headache AND your bowling
Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida
--- Marshall wrote- I agree, I don't like food coloring either. I remember when this was first posted, some of us went looking for a substitute. One thing we looked at was Pediolite, but quickly discovered that it had ant poison (aspertame) in it, which is far worse than any of the dyes. Seem when I checked recently, they had removed that, but can't say for sure. I checked our electrolyte drink mix, Electromix from Alacer. I thought it might work better than Gatorade as it doesn't have sugar or color, but the minerals are in the form of citrates and I remember reading a post saying Silver combines with citric acid to make Ag citrate which can cause argyria, like Ag acetates and Ag nitrates. I haven't looked at a Gatorade bottle to see what form their minerals are in. Or would it have to contact citric acid itself instead of Potassium, Calcium, or Magnesium citrate since they would already be in the combined form? Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
Morning Nancy, I have had 2 abcess teeth in the last 2 months, and a cold in between that just won't go away. I have had 2 sets of antibiotic prescriptions to rid the abcesses. Smoking, or specifically nicotine causes constricted circulation, and in the mouth the result is gum disease and infections. Your message is thought provoking. So much in fact, that I will make three or four posts, each one emphasizing different aspects to the logical analysis of facts. Finally, I will propose a complete new logic system for open minded people to use in everyday analysis of problems. Please remain open minded. Maybe you will agree with some of the ideas. grin Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCause .OR. Contributing Factor
We all realize the difference between cause and contributing factor. We hear many people say one substance causes something. Rarely is this true. If one makes the statement, something is a contributing factor, this could be true more often than false. I am distressed when anyone says a single item causes or cures anything. In a few instances, it may be true. Here is my recent problem with the wording. A friend has had back problems for a number of years. Supposedly, he has disk being malformed, slipping, or becoming thinner. The result is pain in the arm, shoulder, and neck. After the MRI, while the doctor was showing him black spots and black streaks, the doctor told him that nicotine caused his problem. Do MRI images show color? This guy has not smoked in 30 years. He has used other forms of tobacco, chewing and dipping. Unfortunately, he is the type person that believes anything a doctor tells him is etched in stone. He immediately quits using any form of tobacco. The problem I see here is that he has been misled and now thinks he had made great changes that will help, lessen or maybe cure his malfunction of many years. This concept appears to ignore every single fact ever learned about nutrition, bone health, cartilage formation, vitamin D, and 1000 other things. The doctor made some statements about the bones and disks having very few blood vessels, those being very small, and the nicotine causing narrowing of these blood vessels. This guy is not a devoted believer in nutrition, does not use Vitamin A, or C as a stand alone produce, and only takes one multi-vitamin per day. Another example of him being misled by false information. Neither does he take Calcium, Mg, or potassium. Also, he does not work in the sun with his shirt off. Could nicotine be the straw that broke the camels back, since it is so weak already? I feel a large number or factors are Contributing Factors, and no single cause exists. Any ideas, comments, or links appreciated. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNew Ideas on Logic
There is nothing new under the Sun. The Ideas I offer have been around since the beginning. Still, we will call it New. By doing this, we are adapting Fuzzy Logic to many terms we use, Hot, Cold, Warm, Cool, High, Low, Slow, and Fast.Other terms exist that are meaningless without quantity such as Hard and Soft. Relative to our analysis of health, disease, nutrition, and all everyday problems, I have been thinking of logic classification for years. It is required for minimum troubleshooting time of complex systems. Maybe some of you can benefit from my thinking, or at least offer ideas on how to improve it. Lets start with True and False. These sound simple and straight forward. 1. True For a statement to be true, it must be true in a million straight instances, and for many millions more instances. Not many statements are true. 2. False For any statement to be false, it must fail the True criteria only once. 3. Relative A statement can be relative, even when it is either True or False 4. Contributing Factor Many statements, documents, reports, surveys, and studies offer ideas and facts that are definitely contributing factors. We make a big mistake if we classify these as true or false. We have to make decisions daily using the methods mentioned above. We all do it thousands of times per day. Yet when we come across something that fits into our preconceived ideas, we accept it as fact without further analysis. This is a mistake. Errors in judgment and analysis of facts can be deadly, especially when split second timing is involved. The same is true when we firm up ideas on long term life style changes, medical treatment, nutrition decisions, which foods we select, which foods we reject, and our supplement program. An accident is a conflict of time. If you cut your finger with a knife, the knife blade and your finger was at the same place at the same time, until one yielded to the other. For years, I have been counting seconds when two cars come close to colliding. Many people's heart skip a beat under 3 seconds. Time intervals under two seconds get the attention of everyone. I see a number of two second intervals every week. Under one second, a large percent of the people have to look for toilet paper. Try it for a week and see how your nerves improve, how your counting seconds improve, and what effect it has on your decision making. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida
Morning Nancy, I checked our electrolyte drink mix, Electromix from Alacer. I have not used that product, but I use others from Alacer. I keep the SuperGram III with me at all times. Usually, I get 3 to 5 of these per day. At the moment, I am sipping Emerg-C. I buy these in several flavors and have 3 boxes on the refrigerator at the present. I keep the packets in my truck, my range box, and my backpack. Often I put two packs in a large glass of water, or two packs in a bottle of water. I think either the Emerg-S or Electrolyte mix produces a better product than GatorAid. For CS mixing, as you pointed out, GA may be better. Other than that, I see no need to ever buy gator aid. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CSsilver in carbon block water filters
Ken, I don't know about carbon block filters, but ceramic candle filters should 'fiz like a mad man,' simply when the water chases out the air. And the presence of silver in a ceramic filter should prevent bacteria growing there. I cannot say what filters are available in the U.S., but I believe I good place to look is with shops that deal with camping. There are at least a couple of silver ceramic filters on the market. Cheers from South Asia. Reid Ken Bagwell said: Hi all, I have avoided the use of carbon block water filters because a few years ago I had a Pur model for the sink (the kind you find for around $15 or $20 at Target or Walmart) and although the water tasted good, it seemed to me that if there were any pathogens in the water, the carbon filter would harbor them and they would multiply exponentially. Lo and behold, I tried to soak the filter in 3% hydrogen peroxide and the thing fizzed like a mad man, indicating to me something was growing in there. So I stopped using those. But I also remember on company which is no longer around made a water filter that had some kind of silver embedded in the unit somewhere, and this seemed like a good idea. Does anyone know of a water filter that uses silver in it? I could a try distiller I suppose, but I don't particularly care for the demineralized taste. Any ideas? Have a good weekend. -Ken Bagwell -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHair Analysis Data Sheet
Wayne -they don't scan very well. It is three pages. The first page is the ppm of 25 major metals-inc the toxic arsenic,beryllium, nickel,mercury,cadmium,lead, and aluminum. Done in a chart with low, average, and high ref. ranges- with your results and what the good range should be. The second page is the disease caused by your excess or deficiencies. Also, on the second page is a chart of what certain mineral ratios should be --as calcium/phosphorus -1.3-6.1 range. the third page is supplement and food recommendations to make up your deficiencies or rid your body of the toxicity. We shoot each sample three times and average. We use an induction coupled plasma-optical emission spectrometer. I need two tablespoons of hair off the nape of your neck.. The cost is $80. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHair Analysis Data Sheet Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:39:18 -0600 Evening TJ, At 07:48 PM 2/7/04 -0500, you wrote: When I do a hair analysis on a smoker, I usually find that their arsenic level is high. Could you provide us with a sample analysis, or a link to one? How much does a hair analysis cost. I might be interested in one, if I had enough hair. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Choose now from 4 levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage - no more account overload! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
Re: CSTobacco, etc.
IT's already here. Called, 'the war on people through drugs' Law created it by ignoring the facts, law escalated it into highly purified, more destructive and easier to smuggle forms and law whines when they get shot at in the environment they chose to create by making the business high paying and risky enough so only desparados engage in it. The good ole friendly pot dealer used to be the norm. They cite high crime rates, but they're only high because they themselves drove the prices up too far for anyone to humanly pay and placed a stigma on working for the money. They say well, how would you like a heroin dealer in the school yard?...like there isn't one and there never has been one before or you couldn't just go to the pharmacy and buy opuium and cocaine dervitives for pennies only a few decades ago. MOST people who use drugs and alchohol don't have a problem. Those who DO have a problem, will, whether it's legal or not. If it's illegal, the law compounds the problem in many ways, including posing a problem to the majority who would not otherwise have a problem. On the other side, there is no legal recourse...no courts, only self enforcement of the rules. And they have no prisons. Any guess what the penalties for messing with the supplier or fellow participants are? The only legitamate function of law is to protect us from each other, not from ourselves. The Constitution guarantees the right to the pursuit of happiness. It very carefully 'doesn't' say what happiness 'is', or that you'll catch it. Even the users come out on the short end. Any problem that has to stay underground is that much less likely to to surface into the light for proper treatment. ..and they get to blame the war for having the problem. [Not that they wouldn't find something else to blame if there were no war] MY ex was a drunk. No amount of effort or reasoning would budge her from her chosen path. If booze were illegal, she was smart enough to distill her own and would have...or would have invited some unsavory characters created by the prohibition into our lives. I had to cut her loose to follow that path as far as she insisted she would, or follow her down it with her. ..not my thing. I like a rum and coke now and then too. Now and then. Well, she died last month. [45 yrs old] Her choice. She was hopitalized against her will and pulled her own plug. She didn't kill anyone else. No one else suffered anything they didn't agree to suffer for whatever reason 'they' had. No matter how insane I might think it all was, it was her path and she was determined to follow it. Any 'help' I tried to give her became part of the problem. It simply wasn't help. Fighting about it [war] only made us both miserable and didn't change anything. Apparently, life was painful for her and she wanted out. [day by day and forever] I didn't like it, thought it was really twisted, but that's MY problem, not hers. Who am I to judge? It's not like I don't have a few turns myself. The difference between people is only a matter of direction and degree. Happiness has no specific definition. You go girl, meet your destiny...claim your right of self determination come Hell or high water. She went down her path with a scream of defiance. ...something admirable about that. Ode At 10:23 AM 2/7/2004 -0600, you wrote: At 08:11 AM 2/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: [snip] You don't stop having a problem by compounding it with aggression. People identify with their desires. If you attack those desires, you attack 'them'...and they do tend to fight back. Then you have a 'hot war' that involves even the noncombatants. Coming soon to a theater near you, I 'spect. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEye Formulation Question
Did someone a couple months ago recommend a drop of flaxseed oil in each eye twice a day for cataracts? TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEye Formulation Question Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:50:29 -0600 In the Feb issue of Second Opinion by Dr. Robert J. Rowen, he has some interesting comments about an eye formula that has helped some people with cataracts. He even states that he uses this himself for prevention and eye health. The formula is simple and listed below. DMSO 6.25 percent Vitamin C 1.25 percent Glutathione 1.25 percent The question is, what is the remaining percent of 91.25 percent ? Distilled Water? He lists only one source and phone number. Dollar Drug or Santa Rosa, 707-575-1313 I had rather mix this myself than to buy it. Can anyone suggest the exact form of Vitamin C and Glutathione?Why not use some CS in this blend? I keep a spray bottle of CS in my pocket. When out working in buildings that contain people and people spaces such as offices and dorms, I typically spray both the eyes and nose a few times per day. I am not paranoid about catching a bacteria or virus. I am doing this somewhat as a test to see how long I can go without getting sick or catching a bug. I know this won't help the larger bugs or spiders. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx
RE: CSSmoking VS colloidal silver
Everyone graduates. You chose to do so with an altered body. Nothing wrong with that or any other method or means. There is no right or wrong way to approach the inevitable. The definition of acceptable quality is a highly personal opinion. PS We're ALL... ex spurts. ;-) Ode At 12:54 PM 2/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi Ode and Marshall, I consider YOU two as some of the True Experts on this Site and again want to thank you for sharing so freely your valuable experience and information with us seekers. Please don't cancel quit paying your insurance company, as you reach Graduation Date one never knows what can befall you and you stand a chance to lose ALL that you have managed to accumulate during your lifetime. Many times I read tongue-in-cheek comments that may be a joke, but as trusting as I am, I tend to believe everything someone writes or states, until I realize that this individual doesn't know what he or she talking about. I had been paying insurance for years without a claim or taking a day off because of illness--then found I had Prostate CA (decided on radical Prostate CA surgery in 1995) and Praise God I'm still going strong--2 years ago I blacked out from low pulse (20); got a pacemaker and am again going strong so that at 81, I am still active in Church, Lions and Community Service, helping many less fortunate individuals and enjoying life with my Bride of 57 yrs. I say this to remind you that each of you are vitally important and continually serve and help many including those of us on this Site. Keep your insurance while you still get the best rates and pray that you'll enjoy many more years and NEVER need it. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSmoking VS colloidal silver Quit paying them? Hey, if you don't need it, you don't need it. Being willing to die makes living a whole lot easier. Ode At 10:07 AM 2/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: You know that insurance companies charge a lot more for smokers due to the increase in their health costs. I wonder if there would be a way to get all the colloidal silver users together and form a group that could get health insurance for a fraction of what people who use allopathic medicine get it for. The insurance company is making a killing off of me, at over $200 a month for years, and I have NEVER had a claim! Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks
Morning Nancy, http://www.emofree.com The website has lots of testimonies and a free tutorial to download. Many areas of health can be affected by the emotions. I did spend a few minutes on the site. It is well done and has lots of information that would be of value to some people. However, I feel that it is like most treatments, it is treating the symptoms, not the cause. Most people that I know who have emotional problems of any kind, are generally unfocused people who have nothing to do but count flowers on the wall. The other class have chemical disorders within the body. In either case, the root cause must be addressed. If the unfocused people had more work to do, a task list a mile long, enough energy to tackle these tasks, they would have little time to worry about emotions. I have few friends who study the mind and how people think and function. I prefer to call them shrinks. Most of these guys are as weird as their patients. One was a relative. When I visited him last, he went into a trance as he was deciding what a weird freak I am. I saw it. We were sitting at a table when I showed them a manifold block I designed that required 44 drilling operations and 24 tapping operations. Until then, he though I was only the redneck he had known many years ago. I was the only one that saw and noticed his reactions. While it may have been only a few seconds, it seemed like a long time for him to disappear from the world he was in. Still, I agree it fills a need for some people. My favorite non-conventional, non-conformist, doctor, Dr. W. C. Douglass, damns the psychiatrist profession more than any other. Basically, he claims they treat people for a lifetime, claim they can never get well, and insure that they don't by using drugs and avoiding the proper treatment of the root cause of their disorder. I know. I have some mental problems too. However, I am too busy to worry about them and don't give a nickle about what others think of my mental state or emotional problems. My state of a tranquil mind has kept me happy for years and reasonably healthy. grin Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver in carbon block water filters
NSA makes one Ode At 01:31 PM 2/7/2004 -0800, you wrote: Hi all, I have avoided the use of carbon block water filters because a few years ago I had a Pur model for the sink (the kind you find for around $15 or $20 at Target or Walmart) and although the water tasted good, it seemed to me that if there were any pathogens in the water, the carbon filter would harbor them and they would multiply exponentially. Lo and behold, I tried to soak the filter in 3% hydrogen peroxide and the thing fizzed like a mad man, indicating to me something was growing in there. So I stopped using those. But I also remember on company which is no longer around made a water filter that had some kind of silver embedded in the unit somewhere, and this seemed like a good idea. Does anyone know of a water filter that uses silver in it? I could a try distiller I suppose, but I don't particularly care for the demineralized taste. Any ideas? Have a good weekend. -Ken Bagwell -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
## Brent seems to have some sort of clue about the electrical requirments to make 'other than' colloidal silver. He doesn't say much about what that clue might be. http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/colloidal_generator_sonic_mps. html#Ultrasonic ## Humm Interesting. Pretty yellow murky looking CS though. [Could be the microscopic bubbles that make it look murky if the photo was taken with the unit running] Interesting way to handle electrodes. I was never able to make copper or zinc colloids at 30 v even with Brents electrodes...maybe the ultrasound helps? Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is never a problem with 'current runaway'. ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no current run away? How? Is that particle size theoretical or actual? I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim. The internal microprocessor circuitry will consistently put out 30 volts at the correct amperage with all of the above power sources.The built in microprocessor constantly controls the current supply irregardless of the power source. Because of the stringent controls on the output power very little oxidation will occur keeping the solution very clear. When the voltage of the 9-volt battery drops down to 3.5 the unit will automatically shut off. ###Current control and voltage referenced auto off? If so, it could have been said better 'cause it sounds like the gen will shut off when the battery goes dead. The photo of the CS doesn't look all that 'clear' to me. Interesting what he says about oxidation. Not sure what he's talking about though. Oxidation of what? Ode At 04:32 AM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: hi the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold ionic solutions. this seems pretty new for a home generator. i know water oz proprietary process claims to use another process rather than our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals. http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ colloidal_gold_generator.htm i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at the above link, but if anyone wishes to spend the time i would be happy for an off the cuff comment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
Tapping the forhead applies a focal point for the will. He had decided to quit. I once went to New York City for a week with a group of non smokers and decided out of consideration that my habit was just not going to happen. It didn't...and no withdrawl symptoms. Ode At 02:28 AM 2/8/2004 -0800, you wrote: I have had 2 abcess teeth in the last 2 months, and a cold in between that just won't go away. I have had 2 sets of antibiotic prescriptions to rid the abcesses. Smoking, or specifically nicotine causes constricted circulation, and in the mouth the result is gum disease and infections. True, cigarettes are a difficult addiction to dump, but if health really means something to you smokers and you are pursuing alternative means of achieving it, why not apply some alternative methods to dumping that addiction? After a few months of experiencing real health you will wonder why it took you so long. Here is a website describing a method that I would really like to hear feedback on, since it is so simple and free. Challenge: see if it works and report back. EFT- Emotion Freeing Technique- is based on tapping on certain acupuncture points in given pattern and works by freeing emotional bondages, using the tapping and also postive self-affirming statements. The website has lots of testimonies and a free tutorial to download. Many areas of health can be affected by the emotions. Nancy http://www.emofree.com Dear Gary, Reading Glenn Turner's one point wonder posting has prompted me to write to you for the first time to see what you think about this experience. I am an Occupational Health Nurse at an alumina refinery in Western Australia and I use EFT frequently in my work setting for both counselling purposes and together with Bowen Therapy, which is a physical therapy About 6 months ago a refinery worker, who had been a smoker for 35 years, approached me for assistance to give up. He had tried several times over the years with no success. I explained the conventional approaches available, followed by a quick explanation of the tapping method . Our discussion was very brief as I had a line of people waiting to be seen. He said he would give the tapping stuff a go. This was Monday morning and I was not able to give him an appointment until Friday. On Thursday morning he left a message for me to say that he had not had a cigarette since we had last spoken (we had not discussed when he would actually stop). When he came for his appointment he was very excited about having not had a cigarette and could not understand why I had asked him to make sure he brought one with him. He was unable to reproduce the feeling of a craving, so I started the process of getting him to look at the cigarette and think about smoking it etc. Still no craving. He just kept saying things like I don't want to smoke it and I don't think I'll ever smoke again, which I thought was coming from a fear of associating fully and having a strong craving. I then held the cigarette under his nose and he drew back saying it makes me feel sick - I asked him to try a dry drag, at which point he started dry retching. I was quite taken aback and unsure of where to go from there. I tried the treating any anxiety approach with very little success. This gentleman had stretched his usual boundaries a great deal to even consider this method and wasn't going to get into any of that psychology stuff. We made another appointment for a week later - he still wasn't smoking and said he'd had no cravings. This time I questioned him in great detail about what he had done in that first week. Eventually we established that after we first spoke, he had sat in front of TV in the evenings and had been tapping the centre of his forehead and repeatedly saying smoking, smoking, smoking (During our initial conversation I had briefly tapped the eyebrow point to demonstrate when I explained EFT.) From this, it appeared that he had already dealt with his addiction by the time he saw me for the first session. Any further attempts to get him to sniff or dry drag on a cigarette produced nausea or dry retching and any attempts to do any tapping met with it's OK, I won't be smoking any more. GC COMMENT: The center of the forehead is known as the Third Eye and is one of the chakras. It is also in the vicinity of the eyebrow points. It is not one of the specific EFT tapping points but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be used. There are energy points all over the body. VALERIE CONTINUES: I saw him 3 months later and he was still not smoking, and said that on the few occasions he had wanted a cigarette, he only had to tap between his eyebrows a few times and the urge would go. I saw him again today, 7 months later and he is still a non-smoker. Interestingly enough, he was very stressed about a personal issue, but didn't think the tapping stuff would be of any help! GC COMMENT: Isn't that a hoot? People have been conditioned to think that a given problem has a
Re: CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks
Wayne, Have you tried EFT? The guy who wrote the manual is an Engineer and does not like conventional psychotherapy any more than you do. I disagree with your summation of people with emotional problems. Many are highly intelligent focused people who have traumatic memories. The methods at www.emofree.com work and they offer a free manual. Garnet On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 08:14, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Nancy, http://www.emofree.com The website has lots of testimonies and a free tutorial to download. Many areas of health can be affected by the emotions. I did spend a few minutes on the site. It is well done and has lots of information that would be of value to some people. However, I feel that it is like most treatments, it is treating the symptoms, not the cause. Most people that I know who have emotional problems of any kind, are generally unfocused people who have nothing to do but count flowers on the wall. The other class have chemical disorders within the body. In either case, the root cause must be addressed. If the unfocused people had more work to do, a task list a mile long, enough energy to tackle these tasks, they would have little time to worry about emotions. I have few friends who study the mind and how people think and function. I prefer to call them shrinks. Most of these guys are as weird as their patients. One was a relative. When I visited him last, he went into a trance as he was deciding what a weird freak I am. I saw it. We were sitting at a table when I showed them a manifold block I designed that required 44 drilling operations and 24 tapping operations. Until then, he though I was only the redneck he had known many years ago. I was the only one that saw and noticed his reactions. While it may have been only a few seconds, it seemed like a long time for him to disappear from the world he was in. Still, I agree it fills a need for some people. My favorite non-conventional, non-conformist, doctor, Dr. W. C. Douglass, damns the psychiatrist profession more than any other. Basically, he claims they treat people for a lifetime, claim they can never get well, and insure that they don't by using drugs and avoiding the proper treatment of the root cause of their disorder. I know. I have some mental problems too. However, I am too busy to worry about them and don't give a nickle about what others think of my mental state or emotional problems. My state of a tranquil mind has kept me happy for years and reasonably healthy. grin Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com 0
Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
Ode Coyote wrote: Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is never a problem with 'current runaway'. ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no current run away? How? Is that particle size theoretical or actual? I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim. I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHair Analysis Data Sheet
TJ, Can this hair analyses be done for animals? If so, how much fur do you need and should it also be from the pet's nape of the neck? I'm asking for a friend who may be interested. TIA, paula TJ Garland wrote: Wayne -they don't scan very well. It is three pages. The first page is the ppm of 25 major metals-inc the toxic arsenic,beryllium, nickel,mercury,cadmium,lead, and aluminum. Done in a chart with low, average, and high ref. ranges- with your results and what the good range should be. The second page is the disease caused by your excess or deficiencies. Also, on the second page is a chart of what certain mineral ratios should be --as calcium/phosphorus -1.3-6.1 range. the third page is supplement and food recommendations to make up your deficiencies or rid your body of the toxicity. We shoot each sample three times and average. We use an induction coupled plasma-optical emission spectrometer. I need two tablespoons of hair off the nape of your neck.. The cost is $80. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
I had a hair test done, it had arsenic at 0.02 ppm. Is that high? It said that 1.0 ppm was safe. -Original Message- From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer When I do a hair analysis on a smoker, I usually find that their arsenic level is high. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. _ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
Just to clarify, I am the one with the abcesses, I have those due to not going to the dentist for 10 years, and not brushing right, and eating too much sugar and bread up until 2 years ago, and being an alcoholic for 12 years (no longer). My dentist said that I have lots of bacteria right now until I get all the teeth dealt with. I have earned these problems over a long period of time. Until a very short time ago, I knew nothing about CS, but have used Hydrogen Peroxide, as it is the only thing that would keep pain away, and the change in diet allowed me to hold off on the dental work for a couple years. The Dental work I need will take 50% of my income for this year, so that is why it took me so long to deal with it. Not smoking. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wfug...@direcway.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 4:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer Morning Nancy, I have had 2 abcess teeth in the last 2 months, and a cold in between that just won't go away. I have had 2 sets of antibiotic prescriptions to rid the abcesses. Smoking, or specifically nicotine causes constricted circulation, and in the mouth the result is gum disease and infections. Your message is thought provoking. So much in fact, that I will make three or four posts, each one emphasizing different aspects to the logical analysis of facts. Finally, I will propose a complete new logic system for open minded people to use in everyday analysis of problems. Please remain open minded. Maybe you will agree with some of the ideas. grin Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
Just to clarify, I am the one with the abcesses, I have those due to not going to the dentist for 10 years, and not brushing right, and eating too much sugar and bread up until 2 years ago, and being an alcoholic for 12 years (no longer). My dentist said that I have lots of bacteria right now until I get all the teeth dealt with. I have earned these problems over a long period of time. Until a very short time ago, I knew nothing about CS, but have used Hydrogen Peroxide, as it is the only thing that would keep pain away, and the change in diet allowed me to hold off on the dental work for a couple years. The Dental work I need will take 50% of my income for this year, so that is why it took me so long to deal with it. Not smoking. Do you mean, not smoking now or not smoking, ever? So . with all those great things you were doing for your health, it was only nicotine that caused the problem?Surely not? That is what Dr. Douglass calls junk science and junk medicine. Anytime anyone says This ( A single cause ), caused that, it is usually a false statement. Many things are poison to sick people, while the same poison would have little effect on healthy people. You did not mention anything about your major mineral intake during those years. I would suspect that during the years of drinking you had deficiencies of all the minerals and most vitamins. Sugar and drinking uses up B vitamins, if you had any to use up. Likely, between the drinking and poor diet, you had a compromised digestive system. A compromised digestion system will undoubtedly have a more disastrous effect on your health than nicotine. Acidity of saliva and enzyme production-intake has a direct bearing on those bacteria. I think the kind that causes all the problem is anaerobic bacteria. Maybe someone can tell us what pH they like the best. Hopefully you are on the right track today. By the way, Dentists charge too much. grin You knew that. I am going to the Dental College and getting my work done by graduate students. So fat, I have been impressed by the service. I think they are more thorough and spend more time. The cost is 50 to 60 percent of street prices. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
hi i have forwarded this message to brent who makes the generators On Feb 8, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Frank Key wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is never a problem with 'current runaway'. ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no current run away? How? Is that particle size theoretical or actual? I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim. I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
From a non professional point of view and with no criticism intended.. and in my opinion ...A healing crisis is a terrible thing to witness and even worse to endure...to be perhaps alone or with a spouse that is unsure of when to contact a doctor...who is usually someone who doesn't believe in the natural process...in a lot of cases ...suppressing symptoms is usually the modern medical way...dumping toxic material can be incredibly dangerous and life threatening especially if the patient has no confidence is his or her ability to cleanse..I am sure that being young and strong would help but older individuals should be counseled and prepared for the ordeal and to go slow...Rome took more than a day to rise... Norman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSA Dimensionless Quantity
Hi, Ode. Yeah, let's here it for the zoo and all its radical inmates :-) There may be one comforting thought: a Faraday Law calculations would overestimate the silver ppm, due to over-unity valence, but a muriatic titration (either colorimetric or amperometric or both) would underestimate the silver ppm, due to sequestration of silver from the reaction when it is suspended not dissolved. Maybe these deviations would cancel each other! But that wouldn't be weird enough ;-) Matthew
CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier
Hi Richard (and list), I purchased the $20 Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier from Walgreen the other day, but I noticed in trying to set up the process that it has a charcoal filter as part of the uptake. Did you encounter this and if so, did you just leave it in place? I wonder about it filtering out all the CS/DMSO/MSM. On the other hand it is easily removable, but then there is no way so siphon up the mixture, since the filter portion reaches down into the reservoir. Without the filter, there is no reach. If you know what I'm referring to, can you recommend a way to bypass the little filter? Perhaps plastic tubing? I have the receipt could take it back, but I really like the size ( price) so if I can find a way to rearrange it that would be the best thing. If you changed it to suit you, I'd like to know how you did it. :o) Thanks for any suggestions, Heather King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
Ode Coyote 2/3/04 6:22 AM Wrote: Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside. ** It sure makes a mess out of the inside of my daughter's dish washer. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier
Heather, The filter is really a wick for transporting the liquid up to the ultrasonically vibrating screen. I don't believe it has any charcoal in it, but instead relies on the high density (small pores) construction of the wick to filter out larger particles. I believe the wick has very little filtering ability for the tiny silver colloids. Perhaps someone has actually run tests to see if this is true. There is no easy way to bypass the wick/filter. If you have a good sense of taste, you should be able to detect the metallic CS by letting the mist impinge on your tongue. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Heather King (LCA) heath...@microsoft.com To: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier Hi Richard (and list), I purchased the $20 Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier from Walgreen the other day, but I noticed in trying to set up the process that it has a charcoal filter as part of the uptake. Did you encounter this and if so, did you just leave it in place? I wonder about it filtering out all the CS/DMSO/MSM. On the other hand it is easily removable, but then there is no way so siphon up the mixture, since the filter portion reaches down into the reservoir. Without the filter, there is no reach. If you know what I'm referring to, can you recommend a way to bypass the little filter? Perhaps plastic tubing? I have the receipt could take it back, but I really like the size ( price) so if I can find a way to rearrange it that would be the best thing. If you changed it to suit you, I'd like to know how you did it. :o) Thanks for any suggestions, Heather King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Lyme
Could you kindly check this link? I get a File not Found message. Thanks. JBB On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote: You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's MYCOPLASMA The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I know Donald Scott and can personally vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar with his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly reccommend it. All the best Jan Stoeten - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: CSRe: Lyme http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus most of the time. Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have a copy of the patent for it. It is held by The United States Army. JOH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)Anodes in Water heaters
All domestic storage water heaters made today have a magnesium rod about 3/4 inch diameter and about 3 feet long suspended vertically from the top by a pipe fitting (boss). The purpose is to allow any electrochemical currents available to the system to dissolve the magnesium (higher electornegativity than either Iron or copper) instead of the tank or piping, that are the def acto cathode. JOH -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) Why would a gas water heater have an anode? It's just a tank with a dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame underneath. Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks. Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not uncommon to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually it's good mineral free well water run through them. Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside. ode At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: James Holmes wrote: The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters is made of mostly magnesium. True. Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel tank. But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood this. Marshall JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.commailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I believe, but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies electric hot water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition to what a gas one would have. Marshall James Holmes wrote: Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not, where does the tungsten originate?JOH -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.commailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze seeps toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not buy water from your health food store that runs through a long plastic hose from their bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible clear plastic). Also ask them how and when they clean their tank. Best is to observe that it is done with non-toxic methods. If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the galvanized pipe to PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly, the water is free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't wait for cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the copper pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask a plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive, too. If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the metal pipe on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are polluted with strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The salts corrode the pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. After changing your pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and hardness left, you may not need a softener. If the water comes from a well, consider changing the well-pipe to PVC to get rid of iron. While the well is open, have the pump checked for ! PC! BS. Call the Health Department to arrange the testing. If you must have softening after all this, check into the new magnetic varieties of water softener (although they only work well when used with plastic plumbing).- http://www.drclark.net/info/home.htmhttp://www.drclark.net/info/home.htm Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. The five substances polluting our water that she is most concerned about are PCB's, benzene, asbestos, azo dyes, and heavy metals. The worst pollutant seems to
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123
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RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123
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RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123
Hi Grant, It sounds like what you want to do is unsubscribe. At the bottom of every one of these emails is the instruction on how to do so. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org Hope that helps. Vince -Original Message- From: Grant Overby [mailto:g...@overbyfamily.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123 - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123 PLEASE STOP THESE E-MAILS FROM COMMING TO grove...@hctc.com and geoverby.overbyfamily.com I HAVE TRIED EVERY THING YOU HAVE SENT ME AND THEY STILL KEEP COMMING. THANK YOU GRANT E OVERBY -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
