Re: CSsoil minerals
Cherry tomatoes have clusters that fork 5 times with near 50 tomatoes on a single cluster. http://www.fugitt.com/chertom.htm If you look close, you can see the forks in the clusters. Wow, Wayne, what an inspiratonal website. Where there's a will, there's a way. Hydroponics require know-how, but using the right fertilizer could certainly provide enough trace elements. As for seaweed or kelp as a fertilizer, the idea is to get a full complement of trace minerals for the plants to utilize. I would think the plant when given a full range of trace minerals would selectively absorb what it needed to grow. Would any particular element like iodine be concentrated beyond normal levels? Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater filter?
If the problem is iron algae or bacteria you're talking thousands for complete whole house treatment.
Some of my neighbors have the problem so bad the water is brown as mud..mine isn't that bad but has a distict flavor and stains everything eventually.
Carbon filters work for a while and reduce conductivity of the water by about 2/3rds but the organisms grow in the filter and make the water smell like a swamp.
A plain old Britta pitcher kept in the fridge has worked well.. It's too cold for the organisms to grow in the fridge.
I shock the well with swimming pool chlorine twice a year. Chlorox works but is more slippery feeling.
I dumped a gallon of CS in the well this fall and the water has been OK..but I forgot about that water going to the septic tank.
Ode
At 09:29 AM 2/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I use the chemfree iorn filter, works very well. But these are whole house fileters, not for just a kitchen. I don't know if iron would stop up an RO unit or not.
Marshall
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Re: CSsoil minerals
If you take what the dogs [or any carnivour] leave and let it dry under cover in the open air, you get something very similar to Guano in a few months. Ode At 09:06 AM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: I like your thinking here Wayne. I too grow some fantastic looking produce - in containers, in a very small space with only weekly additions of amendments. I do start out with a healthy soil mixture. I suspect that many do not want to spend the money or go to the trouble of starting with good soil. Compost, seaweed tea, bat guano, fish emulsion there are so many ways to add natural sources of nutrients. And well you gotta do a little reading, and weeding. Containers minimize the amount of soil, cut down on the weeds and allow me to keep my plants away from the deer without building an 8 ft fence, they won't come that close to the house because of the dogs. Garnet On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 21:36, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Garnet, Exactly my point. You can not confirm the data so you really have no information at all. It is not inconceivable that there is a hidden agenda. I tend to agree with you. If it was as bad as everyone says, we would all be dead by now. I have lots of evidence to indicate my produce may in fact still have some valuable minerals contained therein. Typically, taste, texture, appearance and vigor of a plant tells you it is healthy. When an 80 year old farmer, who has grown tomatoes for 50 + years, tell me these are the best tomatoes I have eaten in my lifetime, I have to pay attention. He also said that about my watermelon and my corn this past year. My soil is not the worst, plus I am using a scientific blend or man chelated nutrients. The only mineral that cannot be chelated easily is boron. I have grown sweet corn ten feet tall. Normally this variety gets only 5, 6 or maybe 7 feet tall. Cherry tomatoes have clusters that fork 5 times with near 50 tomatoes on a single cluster. http://www.fugitt.com/chertom.htm If you look close, you can see the forks in the clusters. Full size tomatoes set the fruit clusters very close together, 3 to 4 inches, with 8 to 11 tomatoes per cluster. I had one situation with full sized clusters less than one inch apart. As the cluster reached maturity, you could not get the finger between these clusters. I grow cantaloupes so sweet and full of flavor, they actually pump white sugar out around the stems. The okra is so good I eat it raw. Squash has better flavor than any you find. Of course feeding liquid nutrients each hour makes soil obsolete. This is all with man chelated nutrients. My goal one day is to grow a tall tomato plant. Some have produced 37 feet of main stem in one years growth. Not many people know a tomato plant will live for several years. I am sure I can hit 60 to 70 feet if that is my goal. A small plot of corn http://www.fugitt.com/corn_2.htm This is a home built measuring device. http://www.fugitt.com/tipspon1.htm Made from a plastic spoon and 1 optical sensor, I was able to get 1/6th ounce resolution. An event counter kept track of the tips per time. I wrote the software to run this system. It does full data logging of all events and data. I was also logging EC of the leachate over 24 hours. You could see the EC change when temperatures were highest and sunlight the brightest. This is when the plants remove the most nutrients from the liquid nutrient solution. I grow plants in soil, pine bark, mixed media, and hay bales. I have not tried growing them in AIR yet, but that is possible also. Sorry I got off subject, not all this is about soil minerals. Some of the older log files exist here http://www.fugitt.com/wfipnow.htm Also some moon light data logging I got during an eclipse. This complete web page is the output of a program I wrote that embedded the data from my system into the web page and automatically sent it to my web site. Tons of fun, to say the least. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com s
RE: CSList Owner ANNOUNCEMENT! Please read...
This will be my last off topic comment on this CS list. Why don't all of us Off Topicers make sure we are subscribed to that list. I am, and look forward to some good conversations!! Now you guys all sound like my teenagers when I've *REALLY* gotten their attention and they're afraid I won't let them go to the party on Friday night! grin If you stop making OT comments *completely*, Thora, we will lose a valuable part of your contributions to the list. hug! When somebody asks a question and you know the answer, please *give* it! If somebody needs some encouragement, give it to them. If *you* need something, please ask. Once people have received the guidance they need to explore these other topics on their own, *then* it's time to wind down the thread or move it to the OT list. I don't mind hearing about EFT on the main list, but detailed discussions belong on the other list. These conversations about the soil, organics, and mineral supplements are informative as all get-out, but they needed to be moved after the first day or so. If anybody wants to pick Wayne's brain about his hydroponics successes, that's a *great* use of the OT list. And if somebody wants to crow about a new grandchild or other personal item, I'm not going to grumble either, because it is having the chance to care about the *people* on this list that makes us a community instead of a bunch of unrelated individuals. It's like being at a party and realizing that everybody is *SHOUTING* in order to be heard. All it means is that it's time to turn the stereo down a bit and move the card game to the basement... *not* that everybody should go home! And for the OT list to be useful and used, a high percentage of the regular posters have to read it. I hope you will. Be well, Mike D. da list owner guy [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPhosphorous
Old time match makers used to have a bone disease problem from too much phosphorous. Ode At 04:16 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: Quite a few years ago I got a supplement, I believe it was Calcium with Phosphorous. I'm not exactly sure why I was wanting to take it, but I think it was for the calcium, and the phosphorous just happened to be in there. After about a week I had the worst aching joints that I have ever had, before or since. I believe it was from the phosphorous. Needless to say, I stopped taking the supplement. (Calcium is not a problem for me to take.) Dan Re: CSOrganic and standard foods (fertilisers) From: Rowena Evans (view other messages by this author) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:48:06 Further to my post on Percy Weston's book, here is a site which says more about the book: http://phosadd.com/support%20evidence/weston.htm Later again Weston himself was afflicted with arthritis and a cancerous tumour which developed on his hand. Remembering his early life experiences and realising that phosphorus had been involved, and recalling his experiences with the sheep, Weston wondered whether reducing his own intake of phosphorus would have any effect. Like Hafer, he set about developing a low phosphate diet. He also experimented - as he had earlier with his sheep using mineral licks - with supplements of alkaline minerals such as magnesium and potassium, which he believed would counteract the harmful effects of phosphorus and promote its excretion. The results exceeded his expectations; the arthritis eased and gradually disappeared; the cancer tumour dried up, shrivelled, separated and finally broke away from his hand. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAgriculture and Oil
List, Both the off-topic topic of oil and the on-topic question of soil depletion have featured prominently in recent postings. This month's Harper's Magazine has a cover-story essay devoted to tracing the relationship of our whole agricultural system to our dependence on oil! I have not read it yet but the introduction suggests this is something that will interest many list-members. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSoff topic posts
i have certainly posted off topic and mr devour has very kindly directed me to the off topic list. i haven't gotten there... but i promise to meet his guidance in the future. he has commented that some queries or subjects other than CS can be posted and replied to ONCE on an informative, factual basis. obviously, the most legitimate posting would be strictly alternative health related. it does seem time that we serve new members of our list by getting back to CS. for those wanting more information, go to the bottom of these emails and notice the web site http://silverlist.org; this will give links to the off topic list and archives. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHow's this???
Thank you for all the suggestions folks. Hopefully the newly revised footer will appear below. I shall omit my accustomed signature file for added clarity. Howwzzzat? Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSList Owner ANNOUNCEMENT! Please read...
MA writes: Oh my goodness -- I've only been here a week, and already I'm on the Bad Boys and Girls* list!!lolJust kidding. grin Every list that I've ever been on has this same problem -- when no one is asking questions about the *item* that is the list's original subject matter, the regulars have a tendency to chat. Yep, and it's a constant balancing act between the needs of the chit- chat crew and those that need more focus. We've usually erred on the side of more noise and less focus. Not saying good or bad, just fact. ... It's good to be reminded to keep OT stuff to a minimum, but I just want to say that as a new person here, I've been impressed with the intelligence and depth of knowledge that the people on this list have on a variety of *alternative* topics. Yes, which is why I *don't* want everybody to pack up and go home. The party is *not* over as far as I'm concerned. I personally don't have time to add still another elist to my daily readings, so I'll just have to miss out on all that good stuff. I regret that, but I understand the need. If you enjoyed the discussions of the last week, then you already *have* been handling the burden of another elist. The two lists combined will probably not even equal the volume of posts we've just seen here. Yet, if we have enough of the major contributors ready to use either list, then we will preserve most of the energy and synergy that these free-flowing exchanges produce. Sorry that I've been part of the problem. Not at all, ma'am. It's all part of the usual state of affairs. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Final Post
At 08:43 PM 2/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: Theres something called delete.Just delete them when you don't have time to read or when its something that doesn't intrest you. It's one of the shiniest buttons on my computer. stuff - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Final Post I Understand Bob, but come back once in a while and say hi, (even relay some of your CS wisdom to us little guys). Who all hang on your every post. I will miss you, like the last time you left for a while. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robert Berger wrote: Hi EIS'ers aka CS'ers, Ole Bob is checking out of the list tomorrow. I will still do Ag+ testing fro those who want it, and I will be working with Matthew McCann on developing a dimensionless test. I just do not have the time for the 100+ emails a day. Sincerely, Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS: Gel ingredients?
I do the same thing for the same reasons with the same results...without DMSO. stuff At 10:24 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2 teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me - but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments. Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ Garnet Garnet On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote: There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth. It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose drops (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus). The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less. DMSO does stink. JOH -Original Message- From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gel ingredients? I'm learning a lot today. I've been putting DMSO in my CS. I had read posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as it might do me more good. Some one also posted the molecular weight of silver recently. As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the odor had been very noticeable at the holiday gathering. She thought it was a one time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around since. So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get from the nebulizer shouldn't have any effect ? Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: Re: CSCS: Gel ingredients? DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a molecular weight of less than 1,000. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com b
Re: CSPhosphorous
Yes and the same thing can happen if you drink too much cola, it has phosphoric acid in it. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Old time match makers used to have a bone disease problem from too much phosphorous. Ode At 04:16 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: Quite a few years ago I got a supplement, I believe it was Calcium with Phosphorous. I'm not exactly sure why I was wanting to take it, but I think it was for the calcium, and the phosphorous just happened to be in there. After about a week I had the worst aching joints that I have ever had, before or since. I believe it was from the phosphorous. Needless to say, I stopped taking the supplement. (Calcium is not a problem for me to take.) Dan Re: CSOrganic and standard foods (fertilisers) From: Rowena Evans (view other messages by this author) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:48:06 Further to my post on Percy Weston's book, here is a site which says more about the book: http://phosadd.com/support%20evidence/weston.htm Later again Weston himself was afflicted with arthritis and a cancerous tumour which developed on his hand. Remembering his early life experiences and realising that phosphorus had been involved, and recalling his experiences with the sheep, Weston wondered whether reducing his own intake of phosphorus would have any effect. Like Hafer, he set about developing a low phosphate diet. He also experimented - as he had earlier with his sheep using mineral licks - with supplements of alkaline minerals such as magnesium and potassium, which he believed would counteract the harmful effects of phosphorus and promote its excretion. The results exceeded his expectations; the arthritis eased and gradually disappeared; the cancer tumour dried up, shrivelled, separated and finally broke away from his hand. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPhosphorous / Also Silver Deficiency
This is one reason taking supplements is not without risk. You can unbalance and do more damage than you know. Phosphorous must be in a 1.2-2:1 ratio of Calcium : Phosphorous or you can produce metabolic bone disease. It is well known in horses and in herpetoculture enthusiasts that messing with the mineral balance in the diet should not be undertaken lightly, particulary when taking high doses over a long period of time. To keep this on topic, I just read that we used to get 130 mcg of Silver in our diets. Have also seen figures as high as 430 mcg. The author of the booklet on CS speculated that soil depletion has led to a Silver deficiency and perhaps is an explanation for the increase in infectious disease rates. On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 04:44, Ode Coyote wrote: Old time match makers used to have a bone disease problem from too much phosphorous. Ode At 04:16 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: Quite a few years ago I got a supplement, I believe it was Calcium with Phosphorous. I'm not exactly sure why I was wanting to take it, but I think it was for the calcium, and the phosphorous just happened to be in there. After about a week I had the worst aching joints that I have ever had, before or since. I believe it was from the phosphorous. Needless to say, I stopped taking the supplement. (Calcium is not a problem for me to take.) Dan Re: CSOrganic and standard foods (fertilisers) From: Rowena Evans (view other messages by this author) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:48:06 Further to my post on Percy Weston's book, here is a site which says more about the book: http://phosadd.com/support%20evidence/weston.htm Later again Weston himself was afflicted with arthritis and a cancerous tumour which developed on his hand. Remembering his early life experiences and realising that phosphorus had been involved, and recalling his experiences with the sheep, Weston wondered whether reducing his own intake of phosphorus would have any effect. Like Hafer, he set about developing a low phosphate diet. He also experimented - as he had earlier with his sheep using mineral licks - with supplements of alkaline minerals such as magnesium and potassium, which he believed would counteract the harmful effects of phosphorus and promote its excretion. The results exceeded his expectations; the arthritis eased and gradually disappeared; the cancer tumour dried up, shrivelled, separated and finally broke away from his hand. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com f
RE: CSCS: Gel ingredients?
I find that the addition of DMSO means that I can do the treatments less often and get even better results. It is a potentiator, if you will, of CS activity. Garnet On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 09:17, Stuff wrote: I do the same thing for the same reasons with the same results...without DMSO. stuff At 10:24 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2 teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me - but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments. Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ Garnet Garnet On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote: There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth. It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose drops (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus). The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less. DMSO does stink. JOH -Original Message- From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gel ingredients? I'm learning a lot today. I've been putting DMSO in my CS. I had read posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as it might do me more good. Some one also posted the molecular weight of silver recently. As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the odor had been very noticeable at the holiday gathering. She thought it was a one time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around since. So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get from the nebulizer shouldn't have any effect ? Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: Re: CSCS: Gel ingredients? DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a molecular weight of less than 1,000. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com b
Re: CSOff topic posts
Nancy Venzon 2/12/04 4:51 PM Wrote: Has this list migrated into other topics than CS? I had over 100 posts in the past day and few were concerning CS. If so I must seek another source of information due to the time involved sifting through posts. Nancy * I know how you feel, if you find a better source of CS info, please let us know. Jack Be Nice
Re: CSLast post on Concentrace
I do, please send me your email addy! Marshalee If anyone wants to discuss the benefits, etc., of Concentrace, contact me directly. Concentrace comes in both liquid and tablets. The eight ounce bottle (3 months worth for one person) I sell for $30, a HF store for less. I still think $10/month is quite economical. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLast post on Concentrace
Dear Terry, Bodybuilding.com has the 8 oz bottle for $16.13, and that includes the shipping!! Hope this helps others who might be interested... Marshalee Concentrace comes in both liquid and tablets. The eight ounce bottle (3 months worth for one person) I sell for $30, a HF store for less. I still think $10/month is quite economical. Terry Chamberlin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSList Owner ANNOUNCEMENT! Please read...
Oh my goodness -- I've only been here a week, and already I'm on the Bad Boys and Girls* list!!lolJust kidding. Every list that I've ever been on has this same problem -- when no one is asking questions about the *item* that is the list's original subject matter, the regulars have a tendency to chat. Human nature, I guess. It's good to be reminded to keep OT stuff to a minimum, but I just want to say that as a new person here, I've been impressed with the intelligence and depth of knowledge that the people on this list have on a variety of *alternative* topics. I personally don't have time to add still another elist to my daily readings, so I'll just have to miss out on all that good stuff. I regret that, but I understand the need. Sorry that I've been part of the problem. MA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNo aspartame in Gatorade
RE: CSNo aspartame in Gatorade From: James Holmes wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:47:18 Note that the answer does not say definitively that there is no Aspartame in Gatorade, it only discusses the effect of Aspartame on absorption. This could be an unintentional lack of clarity, or it could be a lawyeresque (is there such a word?) way of evading a direct answer while implying there is no Aspartame in the product. JOH Why don't you take 10 minutes, James, and write them an e-mail in order to find out. Then get back to the rest of us... Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Final Post - reply on OT list I think
Wayne Fugitt 2/12/04 8:56 PM Wrote: What I do is mark the messages as being read (all at once) when I don't have time to read them. What good does that do? ** Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSList Owner ANNOUNCEMENT! Please read...
Hi Mike, I personally think a link to the ot list at the bottom is a good idea. I have a hotmail account that wants me to sign in all over to get to the ot list...have to go to the passport page etc...with a link it would take me right there to post ot, and yet could come back to the reg list easily... also sometimes hotmail gets upset and wants me to sign out of the cs list before I go to the ot list... those of you, please don't tell me to drop hotmail...it is the account I have been using for years for this list, and it works for me. I have tried eudora web mail but it is pitifully slow to post... so, for those of us that would really benefit from the link...pleasee btw, can I borrow the keys friday night? I have a protest rally I need to go to...protesting non smokers polluting free air space with hot air...grinjust a joke, now laugh ;-) love, a rose... _ Check out the great features of the new MSN 9 Dial-up, with the MSN Dial-up Accelerator. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPhosphorous
At 11:00 AM 2/13/04 -0500, you wrote: Yes and the same thing can happen if you drink too much cola, it has phosphoric acid in it. There you go, using fuzzy logic again. grin Just tell us how much is too much. I doubt that one per week will hurt a healthy person.Zero per day for a lifetime would be ideal. I was at the store a year or so ago. A very heavy lady had her grocery cart full of soft drinks, the liter or two liter kind. I mean FULL ! I came close to telling her, if that is not enough, I will be happy to push another cart for you. We have to do our part to help with population control. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow's this???
For myself this is perfect, I do use the footer information quite often. Thanks! In a message dated 2/13/2004 2:36:24 PM, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: Hopefully the newly revised footer will appear below. I shall omit my accustomed signature file for added clarity. Howwzzzat? Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPhosphorous
My niece drank Diet Coke since her early teens(she's now 25) and recently fell injuring her vertebrae/spine, she had to have some surgery but it turns out when she had a bone scan done, she had the bones of a 65 year old woman pretty much due to drinking coke. Basically, the phosphorous leeches the calcium out of your bones. Deb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSPhosphorous Yes and the same thing can happen if you drink too much cola, it has phosphoric acid in it. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Old time match makers used to have a bone disease problem from too much phosphorous. Ode At 04:16 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: Quite a few years ago I got a supplement, I believe it was Calcium with Phosphorous. I'm not exactly sure why I was wanting to take it, but I think it was for the calcium, and the phosphorous just happened to be in there. After about a week I had the worst aching joints that I have ever had, before or since. I believe it was from the phosphorous. Needless to say, I stopped taking the supplement. (Calcium is not a problem for me to take.) Dan Re: CSOrganic and standard foods (fertilisers) From: Rowena Evans (view other messages by this author) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:48:06 Further to my post on Percy Weston's book, here is a site which says more about the book: http://phosadd.com/support%20evidence/weston.htm Later again Weston himself was afflicted with arthritis and a cancerous tumour which developed on his hand. Remembering his early life experiences and realising that phosphorus had been involved, and recalling his experiences with the sheep, Weston wondered whether reducing his own intake of phosphorus would have any effect. Like Hafer, he set about developing a low phosphate diet. He also experimented - as he had earlier with his sheep using mineral licks - with supplements of alkaline minerals such as magnesium and potassium, which he believed would counteract the harmful effects of phosphorus and promote its excretion. The results exceeded his expectations; the arthritis eased and gradually disappeared; the cancer tumour dried up, shrivelled, separated and finally broke away from his hand. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater filter?
Naah, just me trying to reduce my iron intake. Filter is for my drinking water that comes from the kitchen faucet. Polycythemia is kicking up and my toes turn blue, hurt and burn. Since I don't like needles and all the MD's can do is bloodletting and write on their script pads been thinking of getting me some leeches and let them dine on my toes. I did go searching and found a filter that sounds like it will work and is reasonably priced. It has a 60 day trial thingy, so I ordered it. Here is the link if you want to look at it. http://www.purego.com/ and to keep this on topic, notice that I get a free TDS meter with the purchase. CU - Marjie * If the problem is iron algae or bacteria you're talking thousands for complete whole house treatment. Some of my neighbors have the problem so bad the water is brown as mud..mine isn't that bad but has a distict flavor and stains everything eventually. Carbon filters work for a while and reduce conductivity of the water by about 2/3rds but the organisms grow in the filter and make the water smell like a swamp. Ode
Re: CSPhosphorous
In a message dated 2/13/04 1:57:51 PM Central Standard Time, wfug...@direcway.com writes: Yes and the same thing can happen if you drink too much cola, it has phosphoric acid in it. Is phosphoric acid what makes it fizz? If so, is phosphoric acid also used in sparkling water products? Is this subject OK for us to talk about? I haven't been counting the number of posts with *phosphorous* in the subject line. Geez -- this makes me nervous. MA
Re: CSPhosphorous
Makes you nervous? us to talk about? I haven't been counting the number of posts with *phosphorous* in the subject line. Geez -- this makes me nervous. Do you mean the fizz, the number or messages, or the phosphorous? Aspartame and Diet Drinks makes me nervous. Wayne
Re: CSWater filter?
Evening Marjie, thinking of getting me some leeches and let them dine on my toes. You could consider making blood donations from time to time. I really hate to do it because I have spent so much effort and so much money over the years trying to make it high quality. Still, I never feel it at all when I do it. If the problem is iron algae or bacteria you're talking thousands for complete whole house treatment. Some of my neighbors have the problem so bad the water is brown as mud..mine isn't that bad but has a distict flavor and stains everything eventually. We has a similar situation at my hunting camp. A very deep well, 8 inch casing, and a 3 HP pump submerged in the well. The filter selected cost about $ 1500. It does a good job, with automatic back flushing, and chemical injectors.The water has no smell, no brown color and tastes half decent. I don't drink it but the others do. I carry my own water everywhere I go. I was surprised what a good job it does. I did not select the filter nor did I help with the installation due to other obligations at the time. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT: Thanks for signing our Petition Protesting Illegal Alien Amnesty
Ok people go sign this Petition. Yours Hank - Original Message - From: georgesm...@tscl.org To: h...@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Thanks for signing our Petition Protesting Illegal Alien Amnesty Thank you for taking the time to sign our Social Security Illegal Alien Amnesty Internet petition! I really appreciate your help with this campaign to STOP both President Bush's proposed illegal alien Amnesty plan and the U.S. Mexico Social Security Totalization Treaty. Over the years when my legislative staff has met with Members of the House and Senate or their staff, they often hear about the number of petitions received from constituents like you--I can tell you that sometimes a flood of letters and petitions is exactly what is needed to get a Member of Congress involved and on our side. And that's what we are trying to do in our campaign to stop this proposed multi-billion dollar giveaway. There is another step you can take to help--will you get others involved and forward this e-mail to your friends and family, and ask them to join you in signing our internet petition? To forward this e-mail to a friend, you may either click the Forward button at the top of your e-mail program and enter your friend's e-mail address, or click this link: http://action.tscl.org/scripts/sendLinkForm.asp?Code=WLPS1A5 and fill in the brief form. Remember, when your friends visit our site or participate in this campaign, they can also sign up for our FREE newsletter full of helpful information on Medicare, Social Security, and more. So please, while you have this e-mail in front of you, forward it to any friends and family you think may be interested. They can then join you in calling for action to save our Social Security. Thank you for your support! George Smith Chairman, Board of Trustees TREA Senior Citizens League Defending Your Earned Benefits http://www.tscl.org/ P.S. Your friends don't have to be seniors to sign the petition, just Americans who care about fairness. Remember, the petition is at http://action.tscl.org/IllegalAmnesty.asp.
Re: CSList Owner ANNOUNCEMENT! Please read...
Well, actually Mike, yes, otherwise I am less likely to look for it; and you know something else I would quite like? If it's allowable, which I think it would be? If people who have their own websites add their website link as part of their signature, just so I can be lazy and not hunt through old posts on the offchance they have included it there. Rowena Thanks again for everything Do you really want me to add a line like the following... Off Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ... to this already cluttered footer, which nobody bothers to read anyway?
Re: CSOT: Thanks for signing our Petition Protesting Illegal Alien Amnesty
It really bothers me when people try to ruin this great list by spamming it with their own political agendas. At 09:34 PM 2/13/04, you wrote: Ok people go sign this Petition. Yours Hank - Original Message - From: mailto:georgesm...@tscl.orggeorgesm...@tscl.org To: mailto:h...@earthlink.neth...@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Thanks for signing our Petition Protesting Illegal Alien Amnesty Thank you for taking the time to sign our Social Security Illegal Alien Amnesty Internet petition! I really appreciate your help with this campaign to STOP both President Bush's proposed illegal alien Amnesty plan and the U.S. Mexico Social Security Totalization Treaty. Over the years when my legislative staff has met with Members of the House -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPhosphorous / Also Silver Deficiency
Hi Garnet, Could you please give the references to your quotes below. thanks, Tony On 13 Feb 2004 at 10:47, Garnet wrote: This is one reason taking supplements is not without risk. You can unbalance and do more damage than you know. Phosphorous must be in a 1.2-2:1 ratio of Calcium : Phosphorous or you can produce metabolic bone disease. It is well known in horses and in herpetoculture enthusiasts that messing with the mineral balance in the diet should not be undertaken lightly, particulary when taking high doses over a long period of time. To keep this on topic, I just read that we used to get 130 mcg of Silver in our diets. Have also seen figures as high as 430 mcg. The author of the booklet on CS speculated that soil depletion has led to a Silver deficiency and perhaps is an explanation for the increase in infectious disease rates. On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 04:44, Ode Coyote wrote: Old time match makers used to have a bone disease problem from too much phosphorous. Ode At 04:16 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: Quite a few years ago I got a supplement, I believe it was Calcium with Phosphorous. I'm not exactly sure why I was wanting to take it, but I think it was for the calcium, and the phosphorous just happened to be in there. After about a week I had the worst aching joints that I have ever had, before or since. I believe it was from the phosphorous. Needless to say, I stopped taking the supplement. (Calcium is not a problem for me to take.) Dan Re: CSOrganic and standard foods (fertilisers) From: Rowena Evans (view other messages by this author) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:48:06 Further to my post on Percy Weston's book, here is a site which says more about the book: http://phosadd.com/support%20evidence/weston.htm Later again Weston himself was afflicted with arthritis and a cancerous tumour which developed on his hand. Remembering his early life experiences and realising that phosphorus had been involved, and recalling his experiences with the sheep, Weston wondered whether reducing his own intake of phosphorus would have any effect. Like Hafer, he set about developing a low phosphate diet. He also experimented - as he had earlier with his sheep using mineral licks - with supplements of alkaline minerals such as magnesium and potassium, which he believed would counteract the harmful effects of phosphorus and promote its excretion. The results exceeded his expectations; the arthritis eased and gradually disappeared; the cancer tumour dried up, shrivelled, separated and finally broke away from his hand. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com f
Re: CSEvidence of mineral depletion
For years the longest lived person in my family was my great aunt, who ate simply, was raised on the tops of the Hiraethog mountains alongside the Conway Valley, North Wales, UK and lived to about 94. If she was ill, she would go to bed and stay there until she was better. My mother, also born and raised up there, has now beaten her and is getting on for 98. In the 1930s my mother became a health nut, read Health for All, a natural health journal, eschewed sugar, sausages, white flour, preservatives etc. etc. - all the things which marked her as eccentric in those days but are pretty much taken for granted nowadays in communities such as ours. She didn't have me vaccinated despite pressure and threats of being reported, wouldn't take or give MB's, antibiotics, aspirin, etc., opposed artificial fertilisers and stock feed. I wish we had known about or had access to things like homeopathy, energy medicine, CS, etc. but there you go. We did what we could with vitamins and minerals, vegetable juices, etc. as and when we could. The creaking gate seems to have hung on longer than the orthodox neighbours. Rowena Thora Rasmussen Anyone read any info on the old timers of long ago?
Re: CSWater filter?
As one with some experience let me tell you - needles are *much* better than leaches! Dan Re: CSWater filter? * From: marjie (view other messages by this author) * Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:36: Naah, just me trying to reduce my iron intake. Filter is for my drinking water that comes from the kitchen faucet. Polycythemia is kicking up and my toes turn blue, hurt and burn. Since I don't like needles and all the MD's can do is bloodletting and write on their script pads been thinking of getting me some leeches and let them dine on my toes. I did go searching and found a filter that sounds like it will work and is reasonably priced. It has a 60 day trial thingy, so I ordered it. Here is the link if you want to look at it. ttp://www.purego.com/ and to keep this on topic, notice that I get a free TDS meter with the purchase. CU - Marjie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Thanks for signing our Petition Protesting Illegal Alien Amnesty
Not to mention this is racist...The illegal residents are brought here by big corp.. to cut cost and do the jobs no one else wants to do working for slave wages...the govt. knows about this, and supports this. Social Security is not in trouble because of the illegal residents, duh...but it would be so simple to pit race against race, have us loose all sense of compassion and spend our energies hating each other...here in Arkansas I see all the time how the Hispanic workers are treated, by employers, by everyday folks. It is sickening. This is totally small minded rhetoric...and has no place on this list. a rose... _ Get some great ideas here for your sweetheart on Valentine's Day - and beyond. http://special.msn.com/network/celebrateromance.armx -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPhosphorous
O Let's please not be attacking complete strangers for their choices!!! Freedom of choice, which allows all of us the ability to even have this list, works both ways. We choose to look into alternatives, some do not. As much as I wish in my head to control the world, I know it is not my place, EVER, to do that. We all have a sphere of influence, and that is where it should end. I know I may be oversensitive on this, but we all encounter this kind of stuff every day, and I have been personally verbally attacked by strangers for my choices, and let me tell you, I DO NOT LIKE IT. It will NEVER make me quit my choices, and to even hint at it is wrong. It is impossible to live in a perfect world, and to even think we ever will is naive, especially since everyones view of a perfect world is different. Thora -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wfug...@direcway.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPhosphorous At 11:00 AM 2/13/04 -0500, you wrote: Yes and the same thing can happen if you drink too much cola, it has phosphoric acid in it. There you go, using fuzzy logic again. grin Just tell us how much is too much. I doubt that one per week will hurt a healthy person.Zero per day for a lifetime would be ideal. I was at the store a year or so ago. A very heavy lady had her grocery cart full of soft drinks, the liter or two liter kind. I mean FULL ! I came close to telling her, if that is not enough, I will be happy to push another cart for you. We have to do our part to help with population control. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
