CS newbie with rectal cancer -- an incredible resource for you!

2004-03-11 Thread patriot2000


Bill Henderson has compiled an AWESOME resource for
cancer sufferers. I collect information about all kinds of
alternatives to treat cancer from all kinds of places, but his is surely
the most comprehensive collection of information I have ever come
across. There is a sample in the following e-mail from him.
He also has over two years worth of free newsletters, with archives, and
you can sign on and get his newletters by e-mail. He is not trying
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cannot afford the modest fees, or for those who will send him their first
hand accounts of cancer cases -- how is that for a labor of love?)
and it has become a major life work for him since his own wife died of
cancer about a decade ago. E-mail him directly and just
see how much you will learn!!
His free sample was attached to his e-mail. I first tried to
send it attached to this note, but Mike wrote back that it was WAY
too long to post on the list. So...just write to Bill at his e-mail
address and tell him you saw his information here and ask him to send it
to you direct. Or, write to me, off list, and I will forward the
whole thing with attachment.
Good luck, and God bless!
Marlys

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CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V

2004-03-11 Thread S Nowell
Julius, I would need more info, Did you start with
distilled water? any additives? what color is the
water? are the cathodes 99.9% or better? what was the
amps and current when you first started? Ive seen ppm
meters on ebay for about 1/2 of retail.

tchau
Sam
PS try replacing those 3 9v with new ones.

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CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread S Nowell
I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
only success 
I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
-. I've had some 
success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
silverpuppy with 
leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
the distilled 
water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
the group but 
have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
low voltage?

tchau
Sam



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RE: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V / Current Regulated CS Generator

2004-03-11 Thread Medwith, Robert
Go to Mouser Electronics on Net 
You can get a current regulator/limiter diode 
They range from 0.22 Mill Amp to 4.70 MA  (1 MA works good)
Solder it in right direction on plus side, with marking bar as out to clip
on Silver.
I found that these Diode Regulators are different than a plain Diode as they
passed current in both
Directions but the wrong way was less than the Rating.
If you really want to get Cheap look a little above or below 1MA they are
Cheaper
The 1 MA will adjust DC Voltage to let no more than rating pass
You can read voltage and adjust silver distance apart and watch voltage
change but you will never
Pass more than 1 MA (if you use the 1 MA) 
They are good up to 100 volts
The 1 MA is around $5
Part Number is 1N5297  for 1 MA other sizes are there
You can make CS with 3 volts DC just move silver close as you are limited on
current flow
For larger Silver Electrodes you can use Higher MA unit
See list archives for current and electrode size
You can use any DC supply you have around house or buy something cheap
For less than $10 you have a Constant Current Regulated CS Generator
Bob

-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Julius Kabrun
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V



- Original Message -
From: Julius Kabrun ju...@worldonline.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Bil Green tv.vcrrep...@verizon.net; jeff.sutherl...@computer.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V



 - Original Message -
 From: Julius Kabrun ju...@worldonline.co.za
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:30 PM
 Subject: 10A 6.8V


  Hi y'all,
 
  Wanted to use my CS maker today after a year .   Works on 3 x 9v but
today
  it was obviously defunct.  No sign of life.
 
  Then bethought myself of some transformers I bought foolishly about 
  10
 years
  ago as part of a silver reclamation from photographic hypo project .
 Never
  worked . Total waste but tried to put them into action tonight.  
  After making some fuses with thin strips of aluminum foil two worked 
  .
 
  After being on for 4 hours the current measured 10 amps  on the 
  meter on
 the
  transformer   the current 6.8v at the 2  wide anode/cathodes which 
  have both blackened.
 
  Anybody advise me as to what is happening???   Is this producing CS???
  Where can I get a ppm CS meter.???
 
  Best Regards,
  Julius Kabrun.
 



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Re: CSIndium Sulphate

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
I would mix Cs 10ppm with DMSO and take 1-2 teaspoons orally, probably
on an empty stomach. I have done this with great results for the flu.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 17:00, Linda Jones wrote:
 I've used Indium. It would make me feel better for about a week, and
 then I'd begin to crash more. My original experiment with it lasted
 for about 3 months, and I went downhill for the whole three months,
 minus the first week. The second time I took it, I only took it for
 about 2 weeks, and the second week went downhill. I recently took it
 for just a week, and quit, but I started going downhill the week after
 I quit, anyway. I've thought of just taking it once in a while, but it
 seems to take several days to get up to full benefit, and I'm afraid
 of crashing again.
  
 My theory on why it makes me worse is that Indium prolongs the life of
 red blood cells. If there are intercellular infections in the red
 blood cells, (such as ehrlichiosis) then the infections will have
 longer to reproduce the longer the red blood cells live.  I'm in the
 process of researching things to treat Lyme, babesia,
 ehrlichiosis, and other tick borne pathogens that I have. Does anyone
 know if CS can get inside of cells sufficiently to kill intercellular
 infections?
  
 Linda Jones
 lin...@hamilton.net
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Matthew McCann PE
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:25 PM
 Subject: CSIndium Sulphate
 
 Hi, Members of the List,
  
 The archives had a brief exchange, posted about a
 one and a half years ago, on Indium Sulphate solution
 aka colloidal indium. Some remarkable claims have been
 made for this substance, some going beyond what is
 attributed to EIS. Has anybody been using it, and had
 experiences worth sharing? Thanks for any report!
  
 Best regards,
  
 Matthew


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Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
You gave me a warm fuzzy this morning. Thanks!

Just keep passing on the info. There are still so many folks that have
no idea how much they can do to improve their health for so little
effort or cost.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 18:52, Jodi Waldman Menard wrote:
 I'm very happy to know you found it as enlightening as I did,
 Jannette.  (I made a permanent file for it  too, hoping I could help
 someone with the info someday.).  And you're saying so makes me
 remember that I wanted to mention how grateful I am to Del, Ode and
 Garnet for giving me their expertise on ionic and particle colloidal
 silver.  They also helped me decide which generator to buy.  And to
 Paula for providing the link and info on the dangers of fluoride and
 brushing one's teeth with Ivory (http://100777.com/node/view/662).  I
 must tell you, I was shocked and floored by that.  Both my husband and
 mother have extensive gum damage from root canals and suffer with many
 problems with their teeth.  Mine seem to be losing enamel as well.   I
 threw out all of our commercial toothpastes the day we read that, and
 even my 7 year old son is handling the change just fine.  
 
 Mike - this list is most definitely one of the most valuable things I
 have **ever** come across.  A very special *** Thank You *** to you
 for doing what you do.  To anyone that posts to this list with the
 intention of sharing knowledge to help and giving testimonial to what
 they've experienced...  please know that it does not fall on deaf
 ears.  And I believe completely what goes around comes around.  What
 you give out, you get back.  Giving out so much help; and goodness
 will only bring the same back home.  Light and love to all.  
 
 Jodi 
 
 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 3/10/2004, 6:01 PM:
 
Subject:
  RE: CS AIDS, CANCER CURED BY
  HYPER-OXYGENATION
   Date:
  3/10/2004, 5:01 PM
   From:
  Jan Abel je...@verizon.net
 To:
  silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Thank you Jodi!!!  This goes into my permanent file.
  
  Jannette
  

  
  
  From: Jodi Waldman Menard [mailto:jwmen...@cox.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:41 PM
   
  
  MUST READ!
  
  THE ANTIDOTE
  Bioweapons, Health, and the Individual
  by Doc Holliday
  
  Hydrogen Peroxide for Health and Home-- 
  
  
  
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Re: CSPotassium article, with a question for Richard

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
This is also true of Maple Syrup if it is not organic.

Your welcome,

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:26, Sharon wrote:
 The non-organic molasses has formaldehyde in it. Best not to drink it.
 
 Funny how that isn't on the ingredient list. Thank you for the tip Garnet!
 Sharon
 
 
 
 Buy organic, it is much stronger anyway so more bang for the buck than
 you might think, and no Formaldehyde.
 
 Garnet
 
 On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 08:54, Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
   on 3/9/04 9:52 AM, sol at sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
   I have this type of molasses, does anyone have a good idea how to drink 
  it!!
   mary
Hmm, my Brer Rabbit non organic, unsulphured molasses says 349 mg per 1
TBS. Label also says this is 10% of the US Daily Value. (just FWIW, not
that I put a lot of faith in the USRDA)
paula
   
Grant wrote:
   
Hmmm:
My organic  Blackstrap Mol.  label says 175 mg/ serving.. ( Per
100 gms).
Quite a difference..
Are there different  ingredients quantities in this stuff. ?
Grant..
   
Wayne Fugitt wrote:
   
At 09:25 PM 3/8/04, you wrote:
   
Blackstrap Molassas has 660mg/tbs.  I take 2-3 tbs/day in juice with 
  a
few other supplements.  Commnent?
   
   
Sounds like a genius idea.   Readily available, economical, and
tastes decent, after proper training of the taste buds.
   
I used to make a drink of milk, blackstrap, and soy powder.
Considering all the bad press for soy and milk, I should be dead by 
  now.
   
There must have been some valuable nutrients in all those ingredients.
   
Wayne
   
   
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CSLabels / Formaldehyde

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
No reference. It was some years ago when I was reseraching organic
foods, came across the info on why to use organic vs commercial molasses
and maple syrup.

The manufacturer certainly did not post it. 

Did you know that if an ingredient is part of another product that they
use none of the components of that product it has to be on the label?
Just an indicator that they added xyz product. Like modified food
starch, which is often potatoe starch - my daughter is terribly
allergic to potatoes. We don't use anyting with modified food starch,
even though it is often just corn strach, no way to tell it is not
potatoe starch or a mixture. 

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:26, sol wrote:
 Garnet,
   Have you got a reference for that statement? Preferably independent, I 
 can't imagine the mfr of regular molasses admitting it has formaldehyde 
 in it.
 TIA,
 paula
 
 Garnet wrote:
 
 The non-organic molasses has formaldehyde in it. Best not to drink it.
 Buy organic, it is much stronger anyway so more bang for the buck than
 you might think, and no Formaldehyde.
 
 Garnet
   
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is
consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if
you have toddlers.

It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first was
antibiotics, second was cortisone.

Garnet

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote:
 i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS and
 internet bought DMSO.
 these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder drugs.
 these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different 
 applications and
 once in a while a new application of these substances.
 just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be,
 i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative 
 problem
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Re: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V

2004-03-11 Thread Ode Coyote
 AC or DC output?

ode

At 01:05 AM 3/11/2004 -0800, you wrote:
Julius, I would need more info, Did you start with
distilled water? any additives? what color is the
water? are the cathodes 99.9% or better? what was the
amps and current when you first started? Ive seen ppm
meters on ebay for about 1/2 of retail.

tchau
Sam
PS try replacing those 3 9v with new ones.

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CSfood allergies, was, (long rant!) Re: CSLabels / Formaldehyde

2004-03-11 Thread sol

Garnet,
 My husband is also allergic to potatos so I've been reading labels 
looking for modified food starch for years and years.
And yes, I do know about the chain of suppliers complication. I've been 
allergic to iodine for over 19 years now. So I know all about unlabelled 
ingredients(that are technically supposed to be labelled but aren't), 
ingredients that do not have to be listed on labels, ingredients that 
mask under the label natural flavoring or just natural, and on and 
on. Not to mention the fact that many canners and mfrs of things like 
salsa, don't even know whether the salt in their product is iodized or 
not iodized. Some use either indiscriminately. I found that seaweed 
thickeners are used in popsicles, routinely injected into chicken meat 
as part of the up to x% solution. All this is not to mention that any 
mfr, canner, or packager of anything edible can change the ingredients 
at any time, with no notice to anyone, and they have 6 months (forever?) 
to change the label.
 With each passing year, it has gotten more difficult to avoid iodine. 
In the form of sea salt or seaweed thickeners it is in virtually every 
health food product, every meat substitute, it is in meat, in dairy 
(iodine in feeds, cows excrete iodine into their milk, iodine cleaners 
are used on udders, and milking equipment, and then carrageenan etc is 
added to the final product). The rage for kelp and fish fertilizers and 
trace mineral soil additives means I can't have any organic produce, and 
this must be carrying over to standard farmers and agribusiness growers 
as the list of high-iodine veg I can't eat grows yearly.
  To crown it all, I was reading cookie labels in the store the other 
day, trying to find a street legal cookie for my husband, when I read 
the label on Mother's brand frosted molasses cookies. Doing good till 
the end when I read fish gelatin!
 And I'm still not avoiding iodine, as in 19 years I've never managed 
to get even the beginnings of a goiter.
  It is often an excercise in frustration and anger to read alternative 
health related lists, even the silverlist. You get kelp, and various 
iodine containing products recommended for everything under the sun. No 
doubt these are all wonderful health promoting things, but not for me. 
It does cause anger, some times a great deal of self-pity to have a 
condition which renders nearly everything recommended as health 
promoting verboten.
  Sorry, I went WAY off topic about this.some days my allergy 
is mentally and emotionally very difficult to live with.
Weirdly and frustratingly, over the past almost 2 years I have been 
seriously trying to get rid of intestinal candida (CS is part of this 
effort), and a host of related health problems, and was hopeful that 
this would reduce my allergic tendendcies. It hasn't yet, in fact, 
ironically, I seem to be more sensitive to iodine than ever...
  I have over 35 years study and interest in nutrition, and know all 
the crap other people can eat without an allergic reaction isn't 
healthy some days I get really resentful of having to make everything 
from scratch.Some days I would like a break from cooking. Some days I 
just want a pizza, you know? I miss all the things I can no longer eat, 
including broccoli and asparagus.

paula
Garnet wrote:


No reference. It was some years ago when I was reseraching organic
foods, came across the info on why to use organic vs commercial molasses
and maple syrup.

The manufacturer certainly did not post it. 


Did you know that if an ingredient is part of another product that they
use none of the components of that product it has to be on the label?
Just an indicator that they added xyz product. Like modified food
starch, which is often potatoe starch - my daughter is terribly
allergic to potatoes. We don't use anyting with modified food starch,
even though it is often just corn strach, no way to tell it is not
potatoe starch or a mixture. 

 

 





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CSDMSO fatality, was, Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread sol
  Well, I guess one could say DMSO has actually killed one or two 
people, though indirectly. Remember the case in Riverside, CA, some 
years back, when a nurse was killed? A dying patient who had been taking 
enormous doses of DMSO actually outgassed a toxic cloud, that killed 
at least one person and severely injured others? I forget if another 
person who got a big dose of the toxic fumes died or recovered.

 paula

Garnet wrote:


Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is
consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if
you have toddlers.

It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first was
antibiotics, second was cortisone.

Garnet

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote:
 


i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS and
internet bought DMSO.
these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder drugs.
these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different 
applications and

once in a while a new application of these substances.
just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be,
i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative 
problem

solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO.
people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies.
   





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Re: CSPotassium article, with a question for Richard

2004-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Molasses is a raw ingredient for making formaldehyde.

At one time formaldehyde was added to the diffuser water as a disinfectant.
According to the epa it is no longer being used.

http://www.epa.gov/ttn/chief/ap42/ch09/final/c9s10-1b.pdf

Marshall

Sharon wrote:

 The non-organic molasses has formaldehyde in it. Best not to drink it.

 Funny how that isn't on the ingredient list. Thank you for the tip Garnet!
 Sharon

 Buy organic, it is much stronger anyway so more bang for the buck than
 you might think, and no Formaldehyde.
 
 Garnet
 
 On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 08:54, Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
   on 3/9/04 9:52 AM, sol at sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
   I have this type of molasses, does anyone have a good idea how to drink 
  it!!
   mary
Hmm, my Brer Rabbit non organic, unsulphured molasses says 349 mg per 1
TBS. Label also says this is 10% of the US Daily Value. (just FWIW, not
that I put a lot of faith in the USRDA)
paula
   
Grant wrote:
   
Hmmm:
My organic  Blackstrap Mol.  label says 175 mg/ serving.. ( Per
100 gms).
Quite a difference..
Are there different  ingredients quantities in this stuff. ?
Grant..
   
Wayne Fugitt wrote:
   
At 09:25 PM 3/8/04, you wrote:
   
Blackstrap Molassas has 660mg/tbs.  I take 2-3 tbs/day in juice with 
  a
few other supplements.  Commnent?
   
   
Sounds like a genius idea.   Readily available, economical, and
tastes decent, after proper training of the taste buds.
   
I used to make a drink of milk, blackstrap, and soy powder.
Considering all the bad press for soy and milk, I should be dead by 
  now.
   
There must have been some valuable nutrients in all those ingredients.
   
Wayne
   
   
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CSMagnetic therapy 1 and 2

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Nave
My 2 posts of 3-11 under the heading CS should have had the subject
heading Magnetic therapy 1 and Magnetic therapy 2 .

Anyway, these are an excerpt from Alternatives newsletter Volume 10,
No. 9, March 2004 put out by Dr. David G. Williams.  

This should be interesting to those who are following the Magpulser
research...

http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m68631.html

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Re: CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
I know of no way to make CG using low voltage. In fact I was unable to make
it using 10 KV AC.

Marshall

S Nowell wrote:

 I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
 only success
 I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
 -. I've had some
 success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
 silverpuppy with
 leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
 the distilled
 water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
 the group but
 have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
 speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
 low voltage?

 tchau
 Sam

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RE: CSLabels / Formaldehyde

2004-03-11 Thread James Holmes
I am not certain, but I think modified food starch is another name used
for monosodumglutimate. 

JOH

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLabels / Formaldehyde


No reference. It was some years ago when I was reseraching organic foods,
came across the info on why to use organic vs commercial molasses and maple
syrup.

The manufacturer certainly did not post it. 

Did you know that if an ingredient is part of another product that they use
none of the components of that product it has to be on the label? Just an
indicator that they added xyz product. Like modified food starch, which
is often potatoe starch - my daughter is terribly allergic to potatoes. We
don't use anyting with modified food starch, even though it is often just
corn strach, no way to tell it is not potatoe starch or a mixture. 

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:26, sol wrote:
 Garnet,
   Have you got a reference for that statement? Preferably independent, 
 I
 can't imagine the mfr of regular molasses admitting it has formaldehyde 
 in it.
 TIA,
 paula
 
 Garnet wrote:
 
 The non-organic molasses has formaldehyde in it. Best not to drink 
 it. Buy organic, it is much stronger anyway so more bang for the buck 
 than you might think, and no Formaldehyde.
 
 Garnet
   
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSDMSO fatality, was, Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
As I recall that was a mixture of chems, not DMSO. And of course not at
theapeutic doses or in a form that is recommended. Inhalation of vapors
is warned against. I do not have the details in front of me. 

The toxic dose in animals is 40,000 times the therapeutic. This does not
include inhalation of vapors, which very well could be carrying in other
toxic substances in the air that are not normally absorbed in that
concentration.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 09:28, sol wrote:
Well, I guess one could say DMSO has actually killed one or two 
 people, though indirectly. Remember the case in Riverside, CA, some 
 years back, when a nurse was killed? A dying patient who had been taking 
 enormous doses of DMSO actually outgassed a toxic cloud, that killed 
 at least one person and severely injured others? I forget if another 
 person who got a big dose of the toxic fumes died or recovered.
   paula
 
 Garnet wrote:
 
 Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is
 consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if
 you have toddlers.
 
 It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first was
 antibiotics, second was cortisone.
 
 Garnet
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/
 
 On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote:
   
 
 i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS and
 internet bought DMSO.
 these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder drugs.
 these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different 
 applications and
 once in a while a new application of these substances.
 just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be,
 i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative 
 problem
 solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO.
 people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSLabels / Formaldehyde

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
I have never heard that one. MSG is not a starch at all. However the
starches could have MSG mixed in there.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 10:01, James Holmes wrote:
 I am not certain, but I think modified food starch is another name used
 for monosodumglutimate. 
 
 JOH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:31 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSLabels / Formaldehyde
 
 
 No reference. It was some years ago when I was reseraching organic foods,
 came across the info on why to use organic vs commercial molasses and maple
 syrup.
 
 The manufacturer certainly did not post it. 
 
 Did you know that if an ingredient is part of another product that they use
 none of the components of that product it has to be on the label? Just an
 indicator that they added xyz product. Like modified food starch, which
 is often potatoe starch - my daughter is terribly allergic to potatoes. We
 don't use anyting with modified food starch, even though it is often just
 corn strach, no way to tell it is not potatoe starch or a mixture. 
 
 Garnet
 
 On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:26, sol wrote:
  Garnet,
Have you got a reference for that statement? Preferably independent, 
  I
  can't imagine the mfr of regular molasses admitting it has formaldehyde 
  in it.
  TIA,
  paula
  
  Garnet wrote:
  
  The non-organic molasses has formaldehyde in it. Best not to drink 
  it. Buy organic, it is much stronger anyway so more bang for the buck 
  than you might think, and no Formaldehyde.
  
  Garnet

  

  
  
  
  
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CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Trem
It will not work.  You need to use high voltage.

Trem

- Original Message - 
From: S Nowell oneland...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:17 AM
Subject: [silver_list] CSMaking CG


 I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
 only success 
 I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
 -. I've had some 
 success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
 silverpuppy with 
 leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
 the distilled 
 water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
 the group but 
 have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
 speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
 low voltage?
 
 tchau
 Sam
 
 
 
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CS

2004-03-11 Thread ~Ron
RE: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V / Current Regulated CS Generator
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
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Subject: Fw: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V / Current Regulated CS Generator



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Subject: Re: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V / Current Regulated CS Generator


Good Post
Without question, these are by far,  the easiest way to limit current in the 
production of CS. After using various voltage  current regulators, I 
personally have landed on using their 1N5295 (.82 mA), and at $1.78 ea., 
probably the cheapest way also. http://www.mouser.com/catalog/617/238.pdf 

As mentioned, polarity is a little tricky as you will see it in both 
directions, up to the rated mA. 

 To Electrode[ |]-
From + of power supply.

   Solder it in right direction on plus side, with marking 
bar as out to clip on Silver.

You can also parallel these to obtain numerous current limits. 

Ron

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  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:08 AM
  Subject: RE: CSFw: Fw:Re: CS 10A 6.8V / Current Regulated CS Generator


  Go to Mouser Electronics on Net 
  You can get a current regulator/limiter diode 
  They range from 0.22 Mill Amp to 4.70 MA  (1 MA works good) 
  Solder it in right direction on plus side, with marking bar as out to clip on 
Silver. 
  I found that these Diode Regulators are different than a plain Diode as they 
passed current in both 
  Directions but the wrong way was less than the Rating. 
  If you really want to get Cheap look a little above or below 1MA they are 
Cheaper 
  The 1 MA will adjust DC Voltage to let no more than rating pass 
  You can read voltage and adjust silver distance apart and watch voltage 
change but you will never 
  Pass more than 1 MA (if you use the 1 MA) 
  They are good up to 100 volts 
  The 1 MA is around $5 
  Part Number is 1N5297  for 1 MA other sizes are there 
  You can make CS with 3 volts DC just move silver close as you are limited on 
current flow 
  For larger Silver Electrodes you can use Higher MA unit 
  See list archives for current and electrode size 
  You can use any DC supply you have around house or buy something cheap 
  For less than $10 you have a Constant Current Regulated CS Generator 
  Bob 

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Re: CSaspirin

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
Did I seem to be implying that toddlers should have access to DMSO? Gee
if I did I sure was not thinking that!

Just pointing out that it is much more toxic than people think and that
because the metabolism of Aspirin is not dose dependant and the system
that handles it is easily overwhelmed, that people can die from Aspirin.

No one has died from DMSO. And yes there is quite a body of study on
DMSO, just not real popularized and perhaps not as extensive as Aspirin.

In fact if Aspirin were up for a New Drug Application today it would
probably not be approved. For many reasons.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 13:52, William Meyer wrote:
 it is true aspirin had been implicated in reye's syndrome. something to 
 be aware of in
 children.
 however, as i have heard stated, aspirin is the most studied drug in 
 western pharmacology.
 the widespread use of aspirin and the data collected on it make it a 
 much more
 studied commodity than DMSO.
 recent studies have claimed many benefits to aspirin consumption: heart 
 benefits
 and cancer benefits among others.
 aspirin is not under patent protection, it's use is incredibly wide 
 spread, and
 statisticisms find it easy to track consumption thru interviews.
 so the data is as good as is practical in this world.
 
 i recommend that toddlers don't have unrestricted access to aspirin or 
 DMSO,...
 or practically anything.
 
 
 On Mar 11, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Garnet wrote:
 
  Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is
  consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if
  you have toddlers.
 
  It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first 
  was
  antibiotics, second was cortisone.
 
  Garnet
 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/
 
  On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote:
  i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS 
  and
  internet bought DMSO.
  these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder 
  drugs.
  these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different
  applications and
  once in a while a new application of these substances.
  just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be,
  i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative
  problem
  solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO.
  people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies.
 
 
 
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Re: CSDMSO fatality, was, Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread ALopezTCR
I just bought the dmso and I believe it is 100% concentration...I am being 
cautious about mixing it with colloidal silver and wonder if anyone can point 
me 
to a way to mix it with dmso.  I am only using 3 drops of dmso with 30 cc. of 
colloidal silver but have no idea if this is effective.

Donna


Re: CSaspirin

2004-03-11 Thread William Meyer
it is true aspirin had been implicated in reye's syndrome. something to 
be aware of in

children.
however, as i have heard stated, aspirin is the most studied drug in 
western pharmacology.
the widespread use of aspirin and the data collected on it make it a 
much more

studied commodity than DMSO.
recent studies have claimed many benefits to aspirin consumption: heart 
benefits

and cancer benefits among others.
aspirin is not under patent protection, it's use is incredibly wide 
spread, and

statisticisms find it easy to track consumption thru interviews.
so the data is as good as is practical in this world.

i recommend that toddlers don't have unrestricted access to aspirin or 
DMSO,...

or practically anything.


On Mar 11, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Garnet wrote:


Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is
consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if
you have toddlers.

It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first 
was

antibiotics, second was cortisone.

Garnet

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote:
i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS 
and

internet bought DMSO.
these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder 
drugs.

these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different
applications and
once in a while a new application of these substances.
just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be,
i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative
problem
solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO.
people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies.




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CSOT...Kind of, [caveat emptor]

2004-03-11 Thread larry tankersley
Dear list. 
 Don't want to get in a piss'n match about this but when I read a name
mentioned on the list a while back it rang a bell. Yesterday I
remembered where and posted the chap that I thought had mentioned to me
his experience. He replied the following.. Actually his name is
Vinny Pinto, of RawPaleoDiet  NegativeHydrogenIon  lately
EffectiveMicroorganisms 'fame'. A charming and knowledgable
bullshit--ripoff merchant of the highest calibre. Anyone buying his
Magic Jug kit will feel like suing after paying several hundred bucks
for the supposedly rare and expensive and dangerous magic ingredient -
namely a few small bits of magnesium metal sawn off an ingot (worth
maybe 20 cents or so at most), together with some helper substance
(small bottle of Malic acid, available cheaply from any drug store). And
it doesn't work - ORP's in excess of -600 mv are claimed, but using much
more of the magic ingredient than supplied by his meagre kit, and
using ideal conditions, maximum ORP reading was around -20 mv
(instrument properly calibrated), a pathetic result. ...
 Just one mans experience, and my experience of this man could be wrong
but I've always found him to be level headed, knowledgeable and a person
of integrity So I pass this along with no motive other than Caveat
Emptor to all the fine folks on OUR silver list.



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CSfood allergies

2004-03-11 Thread Peter Rebaudo

Paula:
How was determined that You are allergic to iodine?
What are the symptoms?
Peter R




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CSOT:To Linux users

2004-03-11 Thread Hank
Hi, Is there any Linux user on here that can help me or tell me where to get 
help? I received the PCLinuxOS 2K4 on the disk and when I try to start the 
system it asks for  the username and password, How do I get a username with it 
when it won't even let me start the system?
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Re: CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Stoeten
Could using the converted microwave CS generator be capable of producing
CG?

All the best,
Jan Stoeten,
The Netherlands



- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSMaking CG


 I know of no way to make CG using low voltage. In fact I was unable to
make
 it using 10 KV AC.

 Marshall

 S Nowell wrote:

  I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
  only success
  I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
  -. I've had some
  success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
  silverpuppy with
  leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
  the distilled
  water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
  the group but
  have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
  speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
  low voltage?
 
  tchau
  Sam
 
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CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread J (H)
I bought used ($5.00 range) electronic air cleaners. One has output 6400 VDC @ 
0.20 MA. I used 1/4 oz. ingot and round pure gold for the anode and the cathode 
and it took about five weeks but I got CG lavender in color.
 
This was about two years ago and it still looks pretty. Someday I will use some 
for a starter batch and cut down on the time.
 
I first tested the machine to make CS and had a quart in a few minutes or less.
 
Michael 


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CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Trem
Hi Jan,

You have to arc the gold electrodes underwater to get the gold atoms to
dissociate.  It requires HVAC.

Best regards,

Trem
- Original Message -
From: Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:12 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSMaking CG


 Could using the converted microwave CS generator be capable of producing
 CG?

 All the best,
 Jan Stoeten,
 The Netherlands

 

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: CSMaking CG


  I know of no way to make CG using low voltage. In fact I was unable to
 make
  it using 10 KV AC.
 
  Marshall
 
  S Nowell wrote:
 
   I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
   only success
   I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
   -. I've had some
   success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
   silverpuppy with
   leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
   the distilled
   water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
   the group but
   have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
   speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
   low voltage?
  
   tchau
   Sam
  
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Re: CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Stoeten
Hi Trem,

Always admire your disciplined expertise Trem. You are an invaluable gift to
the Group and I'm sure that most others on this great list thinks the same
:-)

Trem, can you tell me if the converted microwave is capable of making CG
without burning the house down? Could the cathode be another material such
as copper? What would the distance between anodes have to be?  Thanks in
advance.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten,
The Netherlands

888

- Original Message - 
From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:52 PM
Subject: CSMaking CG


 Hi Jan,

 You have to arc the gold electrodes underwater to get the gold atoms to
 dissociate.  It requires HVAC.

 Best regards,

 Trem
 - Original Message -
 From: Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:12 PM
 Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSMaking CG


  Could using the converted microwave CS generator be capable of
producing
  CG?
 
  All the best,
  Jan Stoeten,
  The Netherlands
 
  
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:48 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMaking CG
 
 
   I know of no way to make CG using low voltage. In fact I was unable to
  make
   it using 10 KV AC.
  
   Marshall
  
   S Nowell wrote:
  
I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
only success
I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
-. I've had some
success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
silverpuppy with
leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
the distilled
water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
the group but
have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
low voltage?
   
tchau
Sam
   
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Re: CSOT:To Linux users

2004-03-11 Thread Dave Darrin

Hank:
  Usually you can just click next to bypass that screen.
Dave

Hank wrote:
Hi, Is there any Linux user on here that can help me or tell me where to 
get help? I received the PCLinuxOS 2K4 on the disk and when I try to 
start the system it asks for  the username and password, How do I get a 
username with it when it won't even let me start the system?

Sincerely Yours,
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CScured by hyper oxygenation

2004-03-11 Thread Christine Carleton
Hi,

I'm new to the list, and fascinated by this title.
Could someone re-post the article:
CS AIDS, CANCER CURED BY HYPER-OXYGENATION

Warmly with E-hugs,
Christine   

Christine Carleton, C.B.P.
Certified BodyTalk Practitioner
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silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 3/10/2004, 6:01 PM:

Subject: RE: CS AIDS, CANCER CURED BY HYPER-OXYGENATION
Date: 3/10/2004, 5:01 PM
From: Jan Abel je...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Thank you Jodi!!!  This goes into my permanent file.
  Jannette

  From: Jodi Waldman Menard [mailto:jwmen...@cox.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:41 PM
  MUST READ!
  THE ANTIDOTE
  Bioweapons, Health, and the Individual
  by Doc Holliday

  Hydrogen Peroxide for Health and Home--

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CSMaking CG

2004-03-11 Thread Trem
Hi Jan,

I'm not that familiar with the microwave setup.  As I recall Duncan Crow
came up with it.  I believe it is about 2-3000 volts DC so that will
probably not work.  I use a neon transformer and a setup designed and built
by Bob Berger.  It works but I need more voltage.  I have a 7500 volt unit
at 60 ma.  Should have a 15 KV transformer but I just muddle along keeping
the arc going as it tries to extinguish.

The more conductivity in the water, the harder it is to keep the arc going.
I usually stop when the PWT reads 10+.  I have no idea what the actual PPM
is but the liquid is a beautiful deep purple.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Trem
- Original Message -
From: Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSMaking CG


 Hi Trem,

 Always admire your disciplined expertise Trem. You are an invaluable gift
to
 the Group and I'm sure that most others on this great list thinks the same
 :-)

 Trem, can you tell me if the converted microwave is capable of making CG
 without burning the house down? Could the cathode be another material such
 as copper? What would the distance between anodes have to be?  Thanks in
 advance.

 All the best,
 Jan Stoeten,
 The Netherlands


888

 - Original Message -
 From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:52 PM
 Subject: CSMaking CG


  Hi Jan,
 
  You have to arc the gold electrodes underwater to get the gold atoms to
  dissociate.  It requires HVAC.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Trem
  - Original Message -
  From: Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:12 PM
  Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSMaking CG
 
 
   Could using the converted microwave CS generator be capable of
 producing
   CG?
  
   All the best,
   Jan Stoeten,
   The Netherlands
  
   
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:48 PM
   Subject: Re: CSMaking CG
  
  
I know of no way to make CG using low voltage. In fact I was unable
to
   make
it using 10 KV AC.
   
Marshall
   
S Nowell wrote:
   
 I have been trying to make CG using CS methods.. The
 only success
 I've had is to seed the water first with CS 20% + or
 -. I've had some
 success with 9-18-27 volt batteries and using the
 silverpuppy with
 leads going to the gold electrodes. Without seeding
 the distilled
 water first it seems an act of frustration. I'm new to
 the group but
 have gone though a lot of the archives to get up to
 speed. Anybody else out there trying to make cg using
 low voltage?

 tchau
 Sam

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Re: CSfood allergies, was, (long rant!)

2004-03-11 Thread Linda Jones
Paula,

Have you considered doing some sort of biomeridian type treatment like NAET
or BioSET for your iodine allergy? I've had a number of allergies eliminated
with BioSET treatments. Even if it didn't eliminate it completely, it might
decrease it enough that if you occasionally accidentally got something with
iodine, it wouldn't cause enough of a reaction to be a problem. Having to
avoid something that strictly is next to impossible, even with the best of
diligence.

I should know. I've been down that road with other allergies that I have,
and it is amazing all the ways the food industry has of hiding things, or
being totally ignorant of things. It's a lot easier to eliminate the allergy
than it is to live with it. I was in a position where I didn't have control
over the food that I was served when I was at my sickest, and I couldn't get
other people to be as diligent about reading labels and avoiding potential
problems. It was a nightmare. My food allergies made life a living hell, on
top of all the other health problems I was already struggling with. It got
to the point where I literally couldn't eat without reacting to just about
everything I ate with hives. Sometimes I had problems with my throat
swelling, or my lips and tongue swelling. I would react with stomach aches,
developed stomach ulcers, and had attacks of diarrhea. Not fun. But on top
of that, I sometimes reacted neurologically, like having a black cloud of
depression and irritability pulled down over me.

BioSET has allowed me to be able to be a lot less diligent about reading
food labels and avoiding foods, and I'm able to eat a wide variety of foods
now that I couldn't eat before. If it were me, I wouldn't leave a stone
unturned to try to resolve the problem. It definitely makes life a lot
easier to live without having to be obsessed about monitoring food. Not to
mention being able to eat a larger variety of foods improves nutrition.

There is a book called The Food Allergy Cure by Dr. Ellen Cutler that has
instructions on how to do a self-treatment. But for really severe allergies,
it would probably be wise to see a practitioner, because they're trained to
handle severe allergic reactions, and they have a variety of other things up
their sleeves that can help that the book doesn't cover.

I know I'm beginning to sound like a commercial. But I've been helped so
tremendously by it, and I hope my enthusiasm won't offend people. And I'm
sure people will be skeptical of it, and assume that it's only a placebo
effect. If it works by placebo effect, than it shouldn't have worked on me,
because I only started doing it because my naturopath recommended it, and I
wanted to oblige her to stay on her good side. She's the first person that
I've gone to for help that didn't somehow ridicule my problems, and try to
blame me for them. But I really didn't think it was going to do a thing, and
I was a little irritated at having to go through the motions just to please
her. Surprisingly, it helped, right from the start, and my first successes
convinced me to continue getting treatments.

I DON'T think it is a cure-all. I know that there are some people who don't
seem to benefit from it. The vast majority of people do benefit at least to
some degree. Not all practitioners are equal, either. Sometimes you have to
shop around a little to find a practitioner that has sufficient talent and
experience and that you're comfortable with. But it's worth at least trying,
because if it helps, it can really help.

Linda Jones
lin...@hamilton.net

- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:24 AM
Subject: CSfood allergies, was, (long rant!) Re: CSLabels / Formaldehyde


 Garnet,
   My husband is also allergic to potatos so I've been reading labels
 looking for modified food starch for years and years.
 And yes, I do know about the chain of suppliers complication. I've been
 allergic to iodine for over 19 years now. So I know all about unlabelled
 ingredients(that are technically supposed to be labelled but aren't),
 ingredients that do not have to be listed on labels, ingredients that
 mask under the label natural flavoring or just natural, and on and
 on. Not to mention the fact that many canners and mfrs of things like
 salsa, don't even know whether the salt in their product is iodized or
 not iodized. Some use either indiscriminately. I found that seaweed
 thickeners are used in popsicles, routinely injected into chicken meat
 as part of the up to x% solution. All this is not to mention that any
 mfr, canner, or packager of anything edible can change the ingredients
 at any time, with no notice to anyone, and they have 6 months (forever?)
 to change the label.
   With each passing year, it has gotten more difficult to avoid iodine.
 In the form of sea salt or seaweed thickeners it is in virtually every
 health food product, every meat substitute, it is in meat, in dairy
 (iodine in 

CSMicrons, angstroms etc.

2004-03-11 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi,

Can anyone explain the difference between the size of the colloidal silver
particles?  One company will advertise one way and another company will
advertise another way.

Apparently the smaller the silver particles, the more beneficial?

If this is the case, can anyone say with authority which company sells a
generator that produces the smallest particles of colloidal silver?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh 


Re: CSOT...Kind of, [caveat emptor]

2004-03-11 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I can say this:  Vinny provides an extraordinary site full of 
first-rate information about Dr. T. Higa's Essential Microorganisms.   
I know of no other English-language site that provides what he does,  
for free, though he does request donations,  and I think he earns 
whatever he gets.I live in Japan, have experimented with EM, and 
have even met Dr. Higa,  but my best information comes from VP's 
wonderful site.


I do not know about the product described below.

My only caveat is that VP, as a moderator, is sometimes very 
immoderate,  unlike our admirable Mike Devour.   The occasional flames 
of his own list members probably is the worst thing about VP's sites, 
in my opinion.I stick with my recommendation,  and reiterate,  the 
priceless,  meticulously detailed data is all there for the taking.
Bless him for that.



JBB





On Friday, Mar 12, 2004, at 05:55 Asia/Tokyo, larry tankersley wrote:


Dear list.
 Don't want to get in a piss'n match about this but when I read a name
mentioned on the list a while back it rang a bell. Yesterday I
remembered where and posted the chap that I thought had mentioned to me
his experience. He replied the following.. Actually his name is
Vinny Pinto, of RawPaleoDiet  NegativeHydrogenIon  lately
EffectiveMicroorganisms 'fame'. A charming and knowledgable
bullshit--ripoff merchant of the highest calibre. Anyone buying his
Magic Jug kit will feel like suing after paying several hundred bucks
for the supposedly rare and expensive and dangerous magic ingredient 
-

namely a few small bits of magnesium metal sawn off an ingot (worth
maybe 20 cents or so at most), together with some helper substance
(small bottle of Malic acid, available cheaply from any drug store). 
And
it doesn't work - ORP's in excess of -600 mv are claimed, but using 
much

more of the magic ingredient than supplied by his meagre kit, and
using ideal conditions, maximum ORP reading was around -20 mv
(instrument properly calibrated), a pathetic result. ...
 Just one mans experience, and my experience of this man could be wrong
but I've always found him to be level headed, knowledgeable and a 
person

of integrity So I pass this along with no motive other than Caveat
Emptor to all the fine folks on OUR silver list.



larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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Re: CSMicrons, angstroms etc.

2004-03-11 Thread William Meyer

the silverpuppy and the silvergen models produce mostly ionic silver.
most dc (battery) systems produce mostly ionic silver.
you cannot get any smaller than an ion of silver and still be silver as 
far

as i am aware.
i like the silverpuppy at 99 dollars.

the smaller the particle the better. some mass manufacturers claim that
the smallest non-ionic particles are the best. in other words, they 
discount

and discredit home-made colloidal/ionic silver.

my experience is the ionic stuff (homemade) works. you need good 
distilled water.


i have to admit, one of my frustrations with the silvergen i used to 
own was the

test light tripped on 3/4's of the distilled i bought.
mebbe MOST of the distilled water out there is bad. i even tried 
walgreen's vaunted

distilled. i never bothered to buy a pwt meter to double check readings.
i assumed - from the generators reading- that usable distilled water 
was somewhat rare.


soon after i bought a home distiller for my own water, i sold the 
silvergen.

trem has claimed that even home distilled water is no good!

i use the silverpuppy and the home distiller and i get great silver and 
no hassle.
i am unconcerned how or why.	the silvergen drove me crazy. trem was 
very nice
(manufacturer of silvergen's), but his explanations of led sequences on 
the machine

did not follow my intuitive logic.

the silverpuppy as current is better than the older silvergen sg6.
less hassle, less noise, better silver produced, more efficient, more 
aesthetic in MY experience.
the only way i can check silver content is taste. the sg6 was not 
producing strong
tastes after 8 hours in quarts. the silverpuppy has strong taste after 
one hour in pints.



Don from our list now owns the sg6. he may claim no problems.
in fact, i welcome him to comment. i will send a copy of this email to 
him.

i never reconciled to the sg6.

On Mar 11, 2004, at 8:36 PM, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:


Hi,

 Can anyone explain the difference between the size of the colloidal 
silver particles?  One company will advertise one way and another 
company will advertise another way.  


 Apparently the smaller the silver particles, the more beneficial?

 If this is the case, can anyone say with authority which company 
sells a generator that produces the smallest particles of colloidal 
silver?


 Thank you,

 Jean Baugh 
 

Re: CSDMSO fatality, was, Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
It is probably 99% to 99.7% pure. Close to 100%.

It depends on what you are using it for as to what concentration you
might want to use.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ is the DMSO
discussion group. In the archives you will find many posts on uses and
concentrations. You can also ask questions about what others have found
effective.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 13:50, alopez...@aol.com wrote:
 I just bought the dmso and I believe it is 100% concentration...I am
 being cautious about mixing it with colloidal silver and wonder if
 anyone can point me to a way to mix it with dmso.  I am only using 3
 drops of dmso with 30 cc. of colloidal silver but have no idea if this
 is effective.
  
 Donna


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Re: CSOT:To Linux users

2004-03-11 Thread Garnet
Try using root or guess, without the quotes, lower case for the user
name and the pw or just the user name and no pw. Email me privately and
tell me what happens.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 16:03, Hank wrote:
 Hi, Is there any Linux user on here that can help me or tell me where
 to get help? I received the PCLinuxOS 2K4 on the disk and when I try
 to start the system it asks for  the username and password, How do I
 get a username with it when it won't even let me start the system?
 Sincerely Yours,
 Hank
 http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka
 http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html
 http://69.28.73.17/todaysshow/todaysshow.html
 http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html
  
 ---
 Hanks outgoing mail is certified as Virus Free as can be.
 Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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CSSterilizing milk with CS !

2004-03-11 Thread twll
Hulda Clark claims milk is contaminated with Salmonella 
Shigella.That pasterizing it doesn't kill them.She recomends 
bringing it to a boil to kill them off.
I was wondering if putting a little CS in it would kill them off ?

Re: CSDMSO fatality, was, Re: CSSaying Thanks

2004-03-11 Thread Brooks Bradley
   Dear Donna,
 3 cc of DMSO with 300 cc of CS is, essentially, a 10% (by volume) 
mixtureone we have used experimentally for the past 9 yearswith never 
an untoward reaction in animals or humans.  Concentrations of 10% DMSO are 
QUITE bitter to the taste buds in the rear of the mouth (in 
humans)therefore, if ingesting experimentally, one would probably find that 
5% is about the upper limit of easy tolerance.  We have found 10% 
concentrations to stimulate the gag reflex...in some cases (although this is 
was never harmful, just uncomfortable).  We have never found any complications 
or visual reactions when mixing DMSO with CS.  One proviso however, always 
pour/inject the DMSO into the water fractionnot the reverse.  DMSO X 
water-bearing solutions is a heat generator.  One should remember 
this---especially when diluting larger volumes (e.g. a pint of DMSO with, say, 
2 quarts of water.
 My counsel, derived from many, many, evaluations, is to regard DMSO as 
quite benignalthough an exceptionally powerful solvent and transporter of 
many other substances/solutions of substances.  
 Many allopathic-based research/academic groups make an extra effort to 
frighten alternative researchersregarding possible complications arising 
from 
combining DMSO with other substancesdisregarding the fact that a normal 
child possesses more than adequate common senseto comprehend that ANY 
substance found on the planet can be lethalif one can consume enough of it.
 My impatience with the fomenters of fear and untruth impel me toward 
these remarks.  I am most aware of the caution one is drawn to when 
investigating elements and conditions beyond the normal purview of their 
training or knowledge;  and discretion is, indeed, the better part of valor.  
This said, after 25 years of personal experience with the substance identified 
as DMSO, hundreds of protocols
(some of which one would find difficult to accept), I state, 
categoricallyDMSO is one of the most benign substances I (or any of our 
staff) have ever researched for applicable inclusion in experimental medical 
protocols.  
 If you have more than a passing interest in DMSO, I recommend you 
obtain a copy of Dr. Stanley Jacobs book on the subject.  If you desire a 
treatise directed, essentially, to the layman, Pat McGrady's book, DMSO, The 
Persecuted Drug is excellent (although somewhat dated in content).  I believe 
there is, at present, a discussion list 
dedicated specifically to DMSOalthough I do not know exactly where they are 
located, but I am confident some one on this list does.
 Do forgive this lengthy post, but I have quite visceral feelings 
relating to the obscene manner in which this substance...and the researchers 
attempting to demonstrate its marvelous characteristics, have been vilified by 
the allopathic drug/practitioner combine.
---Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
Harborne Research Foundation

- Original Message -

DATE: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:50:37
From: alopez...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: 

I just bought the dmso and I believe it is 100% concentration...I am being 
cautious about mixing it with colloidal silver and wonder if anyone can point 
me 
to a way to mix it with dmso.  I am only using 3 drops of dmso with 30 cc. of 
colloidal silver but have no idea if this is effective.

Donna





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