Re: CSRe: embarassing help
Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGood and bad bugs
If there is a so called good bug for our body, our body will be set up to support it, grow it, feed it, and find it. Whereas so called bad bugs will be foreign, and not as easily supported. As well, any foreign bug will be fought against by every kind of fighter in our body, not just CS. Good bugs will only get attacked by CS, so it becomes the only fighter of good bugs. Thora -Original Message- From: Pavel Hochmut [mailto:ho...@cbox.cz] Sorry, But I didn´t want to talk about goog or bad bugs, or where they are placed. Bloodsteam or any intestine or other tissue, the bugs are everywhere BUT so the CS (if applied) also does. My interest is to find an answer (very simplified) to: Why some of bugs are immune to the CS and some of them are NOT.. Forget good and the bad ones. So only we call them. But I find very suspicious, that these that we call good ones are by the merest chance immune to the CS. That´s really upsetting and it sounds to me like brujería i.e. some kind of witchcraft in Spanish language. Pavel H. On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 21:22, Terry Chamberlin wrote: Of course, the good bugs reside mostly in the small intestine I believe this is incorrect. You may want to review your sources, but if memory serves the beneficial bacteria are in the large intestines mostly and if they are in the small intestines it is not the prevalent location. Different species live in different areas. Also where Candida overgrows is where the beneficial organsims are suppose to be.
RE: CSGood and bad bugs
At 05:20 AM 4/28/2004 -0600, Thora wrote: If there is a so called good bug for our body, our body will be set up to support it, grow it, feed it, and find it. Whereas so called bad bugs will be foreign, and not as easily supported. As well, any foreign bug will be fought against by every kind of fighter in our body, not just CS. Good bugs will only get attacked by CS, so it becomes the only fighter of good bugs. Thora Would you please cite a reference for CS fighting good bugs? stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc
Marshall, I'm wondering where I can find this law written down. This information is shocking. Thanks. Nenah - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc Don't forget that since under the law the drug companies can use anything they want for the palcebo. That means that many now use a placebo that has chemicals or poisons in it to make the condition worse, so that the drug being tested will show up more effective, or even if the drug does nothing, it will still show up as effective when compared to the the placeo. Marshall John Rigby wrote: The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo effect. When testing a drug three groups are needed: 1. Get the drug 2. Get a fake (water) 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary population with that symptom set) It is CLINICALLY recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will improve/self-cure. BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as 20%. ** WHY do the 30% recover? They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?). These are the positive ones. It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that negative states promote negative health. Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination rate UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that cause often shows the cure. Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind! Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones that created the illness. ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle) In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul - otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from the mind. Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by modern medicine, you can leave it behind. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc
I spent some time on the FDA site, but could not find it. It is probably in some of their docuements that would require a trip to the Washington Library to find. In the interview I saw, they were covering a drug that had a bad side effect that was not listed in the PDR. I think it was suicide and prozac, but I am not sure now, it was over a year ago. Anyway, the show determined that the reason that it was not shown was that the placebo has the same side effect, so statistically the difference between the drug and the placebo was insignificant. But the real shocker that they uncovered was that the advertising for the drug on the side effects referenced a SUGAR PILL instead of saying placebo. The FDA representative was asked about this false statement in the drug's advertising and their response was basically that since many people do not know what a placebo is, the drug companies are allowed to say sugar pill instead of placebo when they run ads! This information on that show was posted to this list the day after the news item ran. I will see if I can find the original posting. Marshall Nenah Sylver wrote: Marshall, I'm wondering where I can find this law written down. This information is shocking. Thanks. Nenah - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc Don't forget that since under the law the drug companies can use anything they want for the palcebo. That means that many now use a placebo that has chemicals or poisons in it to make the condition worse, so that the drug being tested will show up more effective, or even if the drug does nothing, it will still show up as effective when compared to the the placeo. Marshall John Rigby wrote: The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo effect. When testing a drug three groups are needed: 1. Get the drug 2. Get a fake (water) 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary population with that symptom set) It is CLINICALLY recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will improve/self-cure. BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as 20%. ** WHY do the 30% recover? They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?). These are the positive ones. It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that negative states promote negative health. Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination rate UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that cause often shows the cure. Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind! Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones that created the illness. ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle) In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul - otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from the mind. Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by modern medicine, you can leave it behind. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc
The FDA is now requiring a suicide warning on SSRIs - Prozac etc. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:05, Marshall Dudley wrote: I spent some time on the FDA site, but could not find it. It is probably in some of their docuements that would require a trip to the Washington Library to find. In the interview I saw, they were covering a drug that had a bad side effect that was not listed in the PDR. I think it was suicide and prozac, but I am not sure now, it was over a year ago. Anyway, the show determined that the reason that it was not shown was that the placebo has the same side effect, so statistically the difference between the drug and the placebo was insignificant. But the real shocker that they uncovered was that the advertising for the drug on the side effects referenced a SUGAR PILL instead of saying placebo. The FDA representative was asked about this false statement in the drug's advertising and their response was basically that since many people do not know what a placebo is, the drug companies are allowed to say sugar pill instead of placebo when they run ads! This information on that show was posted to this list the day after the news item ran. I will see if I can find the original posting. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS'Good bugs', 'bad bugs'
If there is a so called good bug for our body, our body will be set up to support it, grow it, feed it, and find it. Whereas so called bad bugs will be foreign, and not as easily supported. As well, any foreign bug will be fought against by every kind of fighter in our body, not just CS. Good bugs will only get attacked by CS, so it becomes the only fighter of good bugs. There are no 'good bugs' and 'bad bugs'. Every organism (indeed, every natural substance) plays a part in Nature. Humans like to call fleas and ticks 'bad' because of the inconvenience of them, but, whenever man successfully kills off most of the 'bad' bugs, or animals, or plants (what we call 'weeds'), disaster usually ensues, as Nature tries to balance out man's meddling. Candida is a 'good' bug in our colon, but a 'bad' bug in our blood stream. The same with e-Coli. The body doesn't strive to keep out bad bugs, it merely tries to maintain balance. Every one of us has bugs such as the Polio virus in us, yet we don't have Polio. If we could successfully rid our body of all 'bad' bugs, we would die. Nature is about symbiosis, not antagonism. Harmony, not exclusion. Our bodies are not at war with Nature, valiantly trying to protect against all the hostile forces we are surrounded by (except what man has created). Primitive peoples have for centuries hung up meat to 'cure' (in today's lingo, spoil), which certainly allowed the 'bugs' in the meat to go bonkers. By today's wisdom, those folks should have all died. Louis Pasteur was wrong. The goal is not to keep 'bad bugs' out, the goal is to be healthy. Dr. Carey Reams once said, If your chemistry was balanced, and your body was healthy, you could live in a village where the people were dropping like flies from the Bubonic Plague, and it wouldn't touch you. Achieving and maintaining such a level of health includes more than merely nutrition or good food, it includes harmony with the universe in the areas of spirit and emotions and relationships (hence the value of such things as EFT). Caroline Myss stated that, if we were clear on these levels (spirit, emotions, relationships), we could live on dog food and stay healthy. (Actually, dog food is sometimes healthier than much human food!) But the point is that the 'good bug', 'bad bug' conception of nature/health keeps us constantly at war with our surroundings. I use CS primarily to strengthen and bolster my immune system, not to attack 'bad bugs' that are attacking from all sides (inside and out). When my immune system is at its best, it keeps my body in balance with all other organisms that might grow out of proportion within me. My health rant for the day. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: embarassing help
on 4/28/04 12:13 AM, Jessica Tighe at jandwti...@charter.net wrote: How much vit. e? orally?? thanks mary Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: embarassing help
1000 units of d-alpha tocopherol at least.Do not use dl-tocopherol--Holland on 4/28/04 12:13 AM, Jessica Tighe at jandwti...@charter.net wrote: How much vit. e? orally?? thanks mary Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: embarassing help
It would not hurt to break open a capsule an apply it to the -roids at least once per day or more besides taking at least 1000 units orally.---Holland on 4/28/04 12:13 AM, Jessica Tighe at jandwti...@charter.net wrote: How much vit. e? orally?? thanks mary Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CSRe: embarassing help
This works much better if the clove is peeled first. JOH -Original Message- From: T J Garland [mailto:alch...@esper.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: embarassing help A clove of garlic inserted rectally cured one of my clients. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: embarassing help I have had 2 people report that CS applied topically and taken internally has helped. Marshall Richard Harris wrote: Hi again Jess, There is a rubberband treatment used by some proctologists instead of surgery--I'd try to find such a doctor if the other suggestions failed. Sincerely, Richard HJarris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: embarassing help What works quickly for external hemorrhoids? Any help would be appreciated. Excision (at doctor's office) is fastest, but I'd try eliminating all sugar immediately, first. A friend who had them would heat table salt in a skillet, transfer the heated salt to a brown grocery bag, wrap it up and sit on it. jr -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CSRe: embarassing help
B-6, 30 mg/Day, along with either full spectrum vitamin complex or at a minimum the B-complex. All vitamins should be natural source; some say that synthesized vitamins are worse than none at all due to the reversed stereo image. JOH -Original Message- From: Jessica Tighe [mailto:jandwti...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: embarassing help Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
WoW davido, the fonts you use are certainly stimulating.so, i thank you for those links and now will do the research however, it is my good friend's problem, and he is a max type A personality and it would be hard to get him to even treat the symptoms topically, if it takes more than three seconds he figures, since the affected areas drastically shrink when he goes south for a type A sailing vacaction...that he only needs to work harder to get enough money to do it all the time i know the psoriasis is only a symptom, but it will be a helluva time convincing him of that... he does not listen to many ppl as you can see, but i have a better chance than his wife of getting through to him so she is on my side too, to get him some help thanks for all the posts ross - Original Message - From: David S Osborne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis ross ..this is an internal problem!! Topical applications are of minimal, shortterm bene. first and foremost importance is internal cleansing!!2nd is DIET. find someone in your area certified in COLONICS set up a schedule for one a week [no less], skip for a couple weeks and then get a couple more. On Dr John's site below, a different schedule may be suggested; I strongly suggest you do what Dr John suggests and stick to it!~ go here: This address is for Dr. John Pagano [DC i believe] Dr John is the expert on curing Psoraisis, and hi on the list of dear-souls in the planet. http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/ davido On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0300 Ross Craig ross.cr...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? ross i did look in the archives and found nothing there.
Re: CSRe: embarassing help
on 4/28/04 12:55 PM, Holland Simms at hollandsi...@charter.net wrote: THANKS MARY 1000 units of d-alpha tocopherol at least.Do not use dl-tocopherol--Holland on 4/28/04 12:13 AM, Jessica Tighe at jandwti...@charter.net wrote: How much vit. e? orally?? thanks mary Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc
I have discovered a product called Immunocal which you can use to wean off Prozac, I am unable to order it in New Zealand, it is only available in USA/Canada over the internet. I dearly wish to wean my husband off Fluoxetine (Prozac) - he takes two 20mg capsules per day, it has been suggested that I use Curcamin (which is an ingredient in Tumeric) I dont know how or where to reach that either, can anybody help? Marie. From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:37:58 -0500 The FDA is now requiring a suicide warning on SSRIs - Prozac etc. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:05, Marshall Dudley wrote: I spent some time on the FDA site, but could not find it.It is probably in some of their docuements that would require a trip to the Washington Library to find.In the interview I saw, they were covering a drug that had a bad side effect that was not listed in the PDR.I think it was suicide and prozac, but I am not sure now, it was over a year ago.Anyway, the show determined that the reason that it was not shown was that the placebo has the same side effect, so statistically the difference between the drug and the placebo was insignificant.But the real shocker that they uncovered was that the advertising for the drug on the side effects referenced a SUGAR PILL instead of saying placebo.The FDA representative was asked about this false statement in the drug's advertising and their response was basically that since many people do not know what a placebo is, the drug companies are allowed to say "sugar pill" instead of placebo when they run ads! This information on that show was posted to this list the day after the news item ran.I will see if I can find the original posting. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel
CSPrions
Does anyone on this list have access to prions (or appropriate lab) to see if CS (or any of the other products talked about here) will kill them? Or has anyone tested it in a lab already? Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPrions
Hi Thora, Very interesting question! Don't you know they would hate to admit it if it were true?! Jean Baugh *** Does anyone on this list have access to prions (or appropriate lab) to see if CS (or any of the other products talked about here) will kill them? Or has anyone tested it in a lab already? Thora BC, Canada -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAbcess tooth testimonial
Last week I got an abcess tooth. I have had them in the past, and never was able to get rid of them without anitbiotics. When I felt this one coming on, I tried CS. I have not gotten my silver to make my own machine so I went and bought some at our local drug store. It was Sovereign Silver 10 ppm. Within 2 hours the pain was gone (unless I pushed on my cheek) and within 5 days, all the swelling was gone, and I can even push on the tooth with no pain. I started out taking 1 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp twice per day. I had no doubt that CS works, but for any new people, they may want to hear of actual successes. Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrions
I think it would be more like electrically disabling them, as they are not really alive... What about the copper/manganese connection? INcrease copper to reduce the effect of the manganese? Duncan Crow Hi Thora, Very interesting question! Don't you know they would hate to admit it if it were true?! Jean Baugh *** Does anyone on this list have access to prions (or appropriate lab) to see if CS (or any of the other products talked about here) will kill them? Or has anyone tested it in a lab already? Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrions
At 05:13 PM 4/28/04, you wrote: Does anyone on this list have access to prions (or appropriate lab) to see if CS (or any of the other products talked about here) will kill them? Or has anyone tested it in a lab already? I don't think CS will kill them. These are not living creatures like bacterial, mold, and fungus. My understanding is that is is a defective protein molecule. Some say even fire and brimstone does not kill the prions. I will say that I think a percentage of the information about mad cow is misinformation. Have you read the book, Mad Cow, USA? It is 215 page ebook. Plus tons of other information is available. Only one person per million gets prions disease. Two groups of people exist based on the linkage of specific amino acids at codon 129. You can research this if you like. The ratio is 68 and 32 percent. The 68 % group does not get mad cow. I am betting I am in that group. ( I hope ) Also, the copper and manganese balance enters into the picture for all animal species, including humans. The idea is to eat more copper and less manganese. Little research has been done relative to healthy humans and puny typical Americans, and weakened individuals from other countries. After reading everything I could find, including the book, MC_USA, I decided this is a non issue for healthy people. I feel so sure of this, I would eat a brain sandwich from an infected cow. One interesting story exists about people in KY eating squirrel brains and becoming infected. If you want the book, you can pick it up here.: http://www.fugitt.com/files/ Also the sweat article by Bob Lee, and a few other classics I have put there. The New Order of the Barbarians is there too. Somewhere I posted a brief about the book, MC_USA, with highlights. It may be in the silver archives. If not it is on my small yahoo group, MC_USA. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSreview of MC_USA book
If I could keep up with all my documents Here is the brief review which is the parts I though most interesting and attention getting. http://www.fugitt.com/files/reviewmc.htm Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCurcumin in AU
Marie said: it has been suggested that I use Curcamin (which is an ingredient in Tumeric) I dont know how or where to reach that Try these sites; if they don't have it, they might know where to get it. http://www.ann.com.au/herbs/Monographs/curcuma.htm http://www.mbm.net.au/health/100-181.htm http://www.eternalhealth.org/archives/2001/2001.02.15.htm http://www.globalherbalsupplies.com/shop/prod1032.htm http://www.mccormick.com.au/mccormau.nsf/0/919091f75046f48c852567b400476580?OpenDocument __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
If no cucumin can use curry power and black pepper.black p. helps digestive absorb the curcumin.peter Marie Hofman marie_hof...@hotmail.com wrote: I have discovered a product called Immunocal which you can use to wean off Prozac, I am unable to order it in New Zealand, it is only available in USA/Canada over the internet. I dearly wish to wean my husband off Fluoxetine (Prozac) - he takes two 20mg capsules per day, it has been suggested that I use Curcamin (which is an ingredient in Tumeric) I dont know how or where to reach that either, can anybody help? Marie. From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:37:58 -0500 The FDA is now requiring a suicide warning on SSRIs - Prozac etc. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:05, Marshall Dudley wrote: I spent some time on the FDA site, but could not find it. It is probably in some of their docuements that would require a trip to the Washington Library to find. In the interview I saw, they were covering a drug that had a bad side effect that was not listed in the PDR. I think it was suicide and prozac, but I am not sure now, it was over a year ago. Anyway, the show determined that the reason that it was not shown was that the placebo has the same side effect, so statistically the difference between the drug and the placebo was insignificant. But the real shocker that they uncovered was that the advertising for the drug on the side effects referenced a SUGAR PILL instead of saying placebo. The FDA representative was asked about this false statement in the drug's advertising and their response was basically that since many people do not know what a placebo is, the drug companies are allowed to say sugar pill instead of placebo when they run ads! This information on that show was posted to this list the day after the news item ran. I will see if I can find the original posting. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel - Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: CSRe: embarassing help
Mary,You are welcome.I empathise with what you are going through.I went for years with this reoccurring problem and I have to help others that are suffering.-Sincerely,Holland on 4/28/04 12:55 PM, Holland Simms at hollandsi...@charter.net wrote: THANKS MARY 1000 units of d-alpha tocopherol at least.Do not use dl-tocopherol--Holland on 4/28/04 12:13 AM, Jessica Tighe at jandwti...@charter.net wrote: How much vit. e? orally?? thanks mary Thank y'all for your replies. I wasn't completely clear because this wasn't a simple hemorrhoid. This was a thromboses hemorrhoid. sigh I was in some MAJOR pain for a few days there. Cried like a baby, I admit it. It was horrid. I couldn't sit to read all the replies but I got to read a few. I practically lived in my bathtub. Anyway, my mom asked me why I sounded half-dead when she called me as I was waiting in the doctor's office as I figured I'd need surgery on the accursed thing. I wasn't about to say why in front of other people but she finally caught on and yelled at me for not taking vitamin E. I told her to stop yelling at me and how the heck was I to know that vitamin E helps varicose veins. Has anyone else heard that? Evidently this type of thing runs in my paternal genetic line and no one told me. To make a long, gory story short, it did it's thing and maybe decided it was WAY too big, thus it decided to deflate. Maybe it popped, I don't know, I felt half-dead. Either way, I'm pleased. To bring the story to CS, my DH made me quite a bit for my sitz-bath (thank goodness I carted it home after the birth of my 2nd child last year) and it was not good. It was cold and thus not comfortable at all. I do not recommend it. Heated, lovely, cold, no. I am healing rather quickly and burning has subsided. Love CS. I'll read the rest of the replies to see if my next question is answered so if it's already answered I apologize. Are there other ways besides vitamin E to prevent this from EVER happening again? Evidently this one is prone for a repeat performance and I'm not in the least bit amused. Thanks for your help! Jessica -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS'Good bugs', 'bad bugs'
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 10:06, Terry Chamberlin wrote: There are no 'good bugs' and 'bad bugs'. Every organism (indeed, every natural substance) plays a part in Nature. Humans like to call fleas and ticks 'bad' because of the inconvenience of them, but, whenever man successfully kills off most of the 'bad' bugs, or animals, or plants (what we call 'weeds'), disaster usually ensues, as Nature tries to balance out man's meddling. The colloqialism bad bugs refers to the pathogenic microbes that indeed are harmful to man. Candida is a 'good' bug in our colon, but a 'bad' bug in our blood stream. The same with e-Coli. Absolutely incorrect!! Candida is not a good bug in the colon. Where in the world did you ever get this information. It is called a commensal of man, which is a pathogenic organsim that often exists in small numbers which are not enough to be harmful, except when their numbers grow to a significant level. Candida in the gut has no function other than it is there as an opprotunist ready to move in to the gut wall if there is a die off of the beneficial organisms that normally occupy the gut wall. The body doesn't strive to keep out bad bugs, it merely tries to maintain balance. Every one of us has bugs such as the Polio virus in us, yet we don't have Polio. If we could successfully rid our body of all 'bad' bugs, we would die. Again this is absolute hogwash. Where do you come up with these ideas? In thirty years of alt health care and medical research I have never heard anyone but you say this??? Nature is about symbiosis, not antagonism. There are many antagonists in our bodies. Checks and balances Glucagon antagonizes insulin for instance. Without this antago- nistic balance of actions of these two hormones we would die. Harmony, not exclusion. Our bodies are not at war with Nature, valiantly trying to protect against all the hostile forces we are surrounded by (except what man has created). Primitive peoples have for centuries hung up meat to 'cure' (in today's lingo, spoil), which certainly allowed the 'bugs' in the meat to go bonkers. By today's wisdom, those folks should have all died. Not at all. The reason they did not die is that when they slaughtered and dressed the carcass they knew not to contaminate the meat with bacteria from the colon, E. coli. Modern day slaughter methods do not take this kind of care and allow the contents of the colon to get on the meat. Louis Pasteur was wrong. The goal is not to keep 'bad bugs' out, the goal is to be healthy. Dr. Carey Reams once said, If your chemistry was balanced, and your body was healthy, you could live in a village where the people were dropping like flies from the Bubonic Plague, and it wouldn't touch you. Again this is absurd. The Bubonic plague killed a majority of the population of Europe, many healthy well to do people among them. For instance Michele de Nostradame lost his wife and child, who enjoyed a healthy life style thanks to his knowledge of herbs and preventative medicine. It was not enough to save them. It takes very few plague organsims because they are extremely virulent. Achieving and maintaining such a level of health includes more than merely nutrition or good food, it includes harmony with the universe in the areas of spirit and emotions and relationships (hence the value of such things as EFT). Caroline Myss stated that, if we were clear on these levels (spirit, emotions, relationships), we could live on dog food and stay healthy. (Actually, dog food is sometimes healthier than much human food!) Depends on the dog food. Old Roy would likely kill you where a food like Solid Gold might well be better than most commercial food. But the point is that the 'good bug', 'bad bug' conception of nature/health keeps us constantly at war with our surroundings. We live in a polarity universe. Of course there is good and bad, night and day, light and dark. We are not at war with our surroundings we are also polarized beings, it is the progression between the polarities that is repnosible for all movement. Without what you refer to as a war, there would be stasis. I use CS primarily to strengthen and bolster my immune system, not to attack 'bad bugs' that are attacking from all sides (inside and out). When my immune system is at its best, it keeps my body in balance with all other organisms that might grow out of proportion within me. My health rant for the day. Indeed! Garnet __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to:
Re: CSPsoriasis
Google Oregano Oil and Psoriasis. Also DMSO is very effective. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 16:30, Ross Craig wrote: WoW davido, the fonts you use are certainly stimulating.so, i thank you for those links and now will do the research however, it is my good friend's problem, and he is a max type A personality and it would be hard to get him to even treat the symptoms topically, if it takes more than three seconds he figures, since the affected areas drastically shrink when he goes south for a type A sailing vacaction...that he only needs to work harder to get enough money to do it all the time i know the psoriasis is only a symptom, but it will be a helluva time convincing him of that... he does not listen to many ppl as you can see, but i have a better chance than his wife of getting through to him so she is on my side too, to get him some help thanks for all the posts ross - Original Message - From: David S Osborne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis ross ..this is an internal problem!! Topical applications are of minimal, shortterm bene. first and foremost importance is internal cleansing!!2nd is DIET. find someone in your area certified in COLONICS set up a schedule for one a week [no less], skip for a couple weeks and then get a couple more. On Dr John's site below, a different schedule may be suggested; I strongly suggest you do what Dr John suggests and stick to it!~ go here: This address is for Dr. John Pagano [DC i believe] Dr John is the expert on curing Psoraisis, and hi on the list of dear-souls in the planet. http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/ davido On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0300 Ross Craig ross.cr...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? ross i did look in the archives and found nothing there. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAbcess tooth testimonial
Add 10-20% DMSO to the CS and hold it in your mouth. It is so much more effective than CS alone. I am using both to control an abcess until my dental insurance will pay. Cs alone did not control it as well. Twice weekly treatments are keeping it from progressing. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 17:32, Thora Rasmussen wrote: Last week I got an abcess tooth. I have had them in the past, and never was able to get rid of them without anitbiotics. When I felt this one coming on, I tried CS. I have not gotten my silver to make my own machine so I went and bought some at our local drug store. It was Sovereign Silver 10 ppm. Within 2 hours the pain was gone (unless I pushed on my cheek) and within 5 days, all the swelling was gone, and I can even push on the tooth with no pain. I started out taking 1 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp twice per day. I had no doubt that CS works, but for any new people, they may want to hear of actual successes. Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrions
Prions are not unicellular organisms they are protiens, so no CS will not kill them. There does seem to be demographic connection between CJD and the use of organophosphate pesticides. Most of the deaths are clustered in rural areas where these chems are used to control parasites in the cattle. Not in the cities where most of the beef is consumed. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 17:13, Thora Rasmussen wrote: Does anyone on this list have access to prions (or appropriate lab) to see if CS (or any of the other products talked about here) will kill them? Or has anyone tested it in a lab already? Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: embarassing help
Hi Jessica, My original post about ALL of the factors necessary for a safe life certainly applies in your case. Most things that run in families are not genetic abnormalities but the simple effects of a recurring cause/s ( lifestyles/locations ) An extended family I met in outback Queensland in OZ had a history of a similar complaint to yours. They shared a water source with water so hard you could pave a road with it! I talked them into not using the water softeners that they were using ( horrific things on their own) and here is the interesting point for your case - to do the following: Nearly all Cancer sufferers have Piles long before the more severe symptoms present themselves. A simple cure ( made my prior hell livable as I used bleed like a stuck pig with no warning) is to go primitive and *never* sit on a toilet but learn to squat like a native. I built a box about 10 high to place in front of the toilet bowl to squat on and put a reinforced handbar on the wall for stability. The VERY FIRST TIME I used it, I felt the difference. Cheers, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com/safetynet/ ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...)
CSRe: Mad Cows and Englishmen
Hi folks, Mad Cow Disease: Punishment of the Gods for cannibalism. I will search my archives - real ones - books, for the original definitive story of M.C. disease, but for now: It was first isolated in Papua New Guinea by a mixed bag of Australians and Englishmen studying a tribe in which a most peculiar and devastating disease regularly occurred. To cut a long story short Prions are a non-existent medical-political trick, the cause being determined as the habit of the women of the tribe ritualistically eating important dead people - and only the women getting the best bits, one of which was the brain. Other tribes knew about it - but they were only Boongs, so who listened? - and they knew that it was caused by eating the same type of animal - not just humans, but pigs who ate pigs. M.C. Disease? A punishment of the Gods for cannibalism. So don't do it! Cheers, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com/safetynet/ ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...)
CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
Hi folks, It is extremely hard to put aside on's conditioning. That's why I like to listen to the very young. 9-13 is a magic time, old enough to reason well, old enough to be articulate, too young yet to be blindsided by weight of Authority. Some odd thoughts of the very young: 1. How come all these different germs don't fight each other? 2. Where do the really bad ones come from, like plagues? 3. Why is it always only 30% of the population ever dies from these plagues? 4. Why did Nostradamus' wife and kids die and him not? Answers next time ?. Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...)
CSCalling Oz members
Hi people, Two new worries in the New World (Order) 1. In Oz, Oxygen is now officially a dangerous drug - only a Dr can prescribe it, apparently. So, anyone using Ozone Generators in Oz? Appreciate your experiences and any sources - particularly in Godzone (Queensland) Want to use it with CS. 2. Also 35% H202 has vanished here. I *did* buy it locally a few years ago, but now it isn't even in the Pharma Wholesale lists.. Anyone know a source? OR Should I persist in looking, or can I use other than Food Grade? AND lastly, how long should a Silver source last? Say, 1 oz will make 500 gals, or what? I am using Maple leaf coins and alternating the poles position. Thanks, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...)
Re: CSPrions
Evening Garnet, Prions are not unicellular organisms they are protiens, so no CS will not kill them. Can you elaborate on this a bit. Most people want to think of prions being alive because they appear so deadly. My idea has been that prions are simply defective protein molecules. The body is fooled somehow into processing these as normal proteins, and maybe storing these ( or using ) molecules to build brain cells. I see a similarity between defective protein molecules and defective fat molecules. The body is not well equipped to reject these defective molecules, whether fat or protein. Now, we have defective carbohydrate molecules. All of these are made by man, not by nature. So, the human body is in a world of hurt. Most problems of man are caused by man. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAbcess tooth testimonial
Can you please explain DMSO? I am new to the list and have never heard of it. Tku. Marie. From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAbcess tooth testimonial Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:27:46 -0500 Add 10-20% DMSO to the CS and hold it in your mouth. It is so much more effective than CS alone. I am using both to control an abcess until my dental insurance will pay. Cs alone did not control it as well. Twice weekly treatments are keeping it from progressing. Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 17:32, Thora Rasmussen wrote: Last week I got an abcess tooth.I have had them in the past, and never was able to get rid of them without anitbiotics.When I felt this one coming on, I tried CS.I have not gotten my silver to make my own machine so I went and bought some at our local drug store.It was "Sovereign Silver" 10 ppm.Within 2 hours the pain was gone (unless I pushed on my cheek) and within 5 days, all the swelling was gone, and I can even push on the tooth with no pain.I started out taking 1 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp once per day for 2 days, then 2 tsp twice per day. I had no doubt that CS works, but for any new people, they may want to hear of actual successes. Thora BC, Canada -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS'Good bugs', 'bad bugs'
as i recall candida is the pathogenic yeast colony version of an organism in the gut that is normally present and benign. On Apr 28, 2004, at 9:24 PM, Garnet wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 10:06, Terry Chamberlin wrote: There are no 'good bugs' and 'bad bugs'. Every organism (indeed, every natural substance) plays a part in Nature. Humans like to call fleas and ticks 'bad' because of the inconvenience of them, but, whenever man successfully kills off most of the 'bad' bugs, or animals, or plants (what we call 'weeds'), disaster usually ensues, as Nature tries to balance out man's meddling. The colloqialism bad bugs refers to the pathogenic microbes that indeed are harmful to man. Candida is a 'good' bug in our colon, but a 'bad' bug in our blood stream. The same with e-Coli. Absolutely incorrect!! Candida is not a good bug in the colon. Where in the world did you ever get this information. It is called a commensal of man, which is a pathogenic organsim that often exists in small numbers which are not enough to be harmful, except when their numbers grow to a significant level. Candida in the gut has no function other than it is there as an opprotunist ready to move in to the gut wall if there is a die off of the beneficial organisms that normally occupy the gut wall. The body doesn't strive to keep out bad bugs, it merely tries to maintain balance. Every one of us has bugs such as the Polio virus in us, yet we don't have Polio. If we could successfully rid our body of all 'bad' bugs, we would die. Again this is absolute hogwash. Where do you come up with these ideas? In thirty years of alt health care and medical research I have never heard anyone but you say this??? Nature is about symbiosis, not antagonism. There are many antagonists in our bodies. Checks and balances Glucagon antagonizes insulin for instance. Without this antago- nistic balance of actions of these two hormones we would die. Harmony, not exclusion. Our bodies are not at war with Nature, valiantly trying to protect against all the hostile forces we are surrounded by (except what man has created). Primitive peoples have for centuries hung up meat to 'cure' (in today's lingo, spoil), which certainly allowed the 'bugs' in the meat to go bonkers. By today's wisdom, those folks should have all died. Not at all. The reason they did not die is that when they slaughtered and dressed the carcass they knew not to contaminate the meat with bacteria from the colon, E. coli. Modern day slaughter methods do not take this kind of care and allow the contents of the colon to get on the meat. Louis Pasteur was wrong. The goal is not to keep 'bad bugs' out, the goal is to be healthy. Dr. Carey Reams once said, If your chemistry was balanced, and your body was healthy, you could live in a village where the people were dropping like flies from the Bubonic Plague, and it wouldn't touch you. Again this is absurd. The Bubonic plague killed a majority of the population of Europe, many healthy well to do people among them. For instance Michele de Nostradame lost his wife and child, who enjoyed a healthy life style thanks to his knowledge of herbs and preventative medicine. It was not enough to save them. It takes very few plague organsims because they are extremely virulent. Achieving and maintaining such a level of health includes more than merely nutrition or good food, it includes harmony with the universe in the areas of spirit and emotions and relationships (hence the value of such things as EFT). Caroline Myss stated that, if we were clear on these levels (spirit, emotions, relationships), we could live on dog food and stay healthy. (Actually, dog food is sometimes healthier than much human food!) Depends on the dog food. Old Roy would likely kill you where a food like Solid Gold might well be better than most commercial food. But the point is that the 'good bug', 'bad bug' conception of nature/health keeps us constantly at war with our surroundings. We live in a polarity universe. Of course there is good and bad, night and day, light and dark. We are not at war with our surroundings we are also polarized beings, it is the progression between the polarities that is repnosible for all movement. Without what you refer to as a war, there would be stasis. I use CS primarily to strengthen and bolster my immune system, not to attack 'bad bugs' that are attacking from all sides (inside and out). When my immune system is at its best, it keeps my body in balance with all other organisms that might grow out of proportion within me. My health rant for the day. Indeed! Garnet __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive:
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
1. How come all these different germs don't fight each other? a great tho largely unexplored way to deal with germs is to introduce an antagonist germ in the body that is less harmful. 2. Where do the really bad ones come from, like plagues? unfortunately lyme disease -it's virulent modern version- may have come from from lab 257, smack dab off the coast of lyme , ct. sars is quite possibly a genetically reengineered version of a weak virus. our govt. would be able to trace it's spread and gather information for biological defense/warfare. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCalling Oz members
i doubt the people will wake up in time to stop all that's happening now. On Apr 28, 2004, at 11:33 PM, John Rigby wrote: Hi people, Two new worries in the New World (Order) 1. In Oz, Oxygen is now officially a dangerous drug - only a Dr can prescribe it, apparently. So, anyone using Ozone Generators in Oz? Appreciate your experiences and any sources - particularly in Godzone (Queensland) Want to use it with CS. 2. Also 35% H202 has vanished here. I *did* buy it locally a few years ago, but now it isn't even in the Pharma Wholesale lists.. Anyone know a source? OR Should I persist in looking, or can I use other than Food Grade? AND lastly, how long should a Silver source last? Say, 1 oz will make 500 gals, or what? I am using Maple leaf coins and alternating the poles position. Thanks, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCalling Oz members
My opinion only, but FWIW Hi people, Two new worries in the New World (Order) 1. In Oz, Oxygen is now officially a dangerous drug - only a Dr can prescribe it, apparently. So, anyone using Ozone Generators in Oz? Appreciate your experiences and any sources - particularly in Godzone (Queensland) Want to use it with CS. It's my understanding that welding oxygen is the same as medical oxygen. It's just a matter of the cleanliness of the equipment used to administer it. 2. Also 35% H202 has vanished here. I *did* buy it locally a few years ago, but now it isn't even in the Pharma Wholesale lists.. Anyone know a source? OR Should I persist in looking, or can I use other than Food Grade? Use the 3% from the pharmacy or wherever. All H2O2 has stabilizers. It's too dangerous to ship, otherwise. Even the 35% is a hazardous substance. People have died from drinking it accidentally! The pharmacy stuff is USP grade (or whatever it's called in OZ) and it's cheaper and safer. food grade doesn't mean it's safe to eat. It just means it won't contaminate food processing equipment when used to clean and sterilize it. Different stabilizers for different uses. AND lastly, how long should a Silver source last? Say, 1 oz will make 500 gals, or what? I am using Maple leaf coins and alternating the poles position. At 10 parts per million, 1 0z. of silver will makes 100,000 oz . of CS. That's over 750 gallons. Hope this helps. Al D. Thanks, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS3% hydrogen peroxide
Hi, How is 3% hydrogen peroxide made? Does anyone know? Thank you, Jean Baugh ** 1. In Oz, Oxygen is now officially a dangerous drug - only a Dr can prescribe it, apparently. So, anyone using Ozone Generators in Oz? Appreciate your experiences and any sources - particularly in Godzone (Queensland) Want to use it with CS. 2. Also 35% H202 has vanished here. I *did* buy it locally a few years ago, but now it isn't even in the Pharma Wholesale lists.. Anyone know a source? OR Should I persist in looking, or can I use other than Food Grade? AND lastly, how long should a Silver source last? Say, 1 oz will make 500 gals, or what? I am using Maple leaf coins and alternating the poles position. Thanks, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
