Re: CS20 ppm CS
Look into Trems 5 gallon machine. I don't think you can hurry the process but a bigger machine can do the volume. It's going to take a LOT of electrode surface area. It might be possible to reduce the water volume of the 10PPM stuff with a vaccum. Ode At 05:24 PM 6/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS20 ppm CS
Although that's probably the best way to do it... That's just one way to get there. Another way is to use the bypass switch after shutdown and run the batch longer. Beaker [8 oz] batches for 15 minutes extra Pints for 40 minutes Quarts for 1 hr 50 minutes extra. Not the answer to Marshalls problem though. Ode At 08:06 PM 6/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
RE: CS20 ppm CS
Both the silverpuppy and SG6 use conductivity feedback to tell when to shut themselves down, but conductivity and PPM aren't the same thing at the same time and conductivity drops and stabilizes within about 12 hours. My tests show that the two different values more or less equate 'after' conductivity drops. Private communications indicate that the SG6 does the same thing as the silverpuppy. How much it does it, I can't say. The drops themselves seem to be about the same, but what that actually means for the SG6, I have no way of knowing. Both Trem and I have spent years experimenting to find the best settings for the generators for max PPM stable CS and came to pretty much the same conclusions as to ideal shutdown point, process parameters and current density for most batches done by most people under varying conditions. There are exceptional circumstances in both directions. Thermal heat soak plays a small role in increasing the drop factor by artifically increasing the conductivity by 3 uS per 10 degrees F. That's a down side of using thermal convection stirring offset by absolute reliability. [No moving parts] To further compound the strangeness factor, the conductivity drop is volume related as well, so, a large batch drops more than a small batch even though an 8 oz batch shuts down at the same conductivity as a quart batch. But using a method of squeezing ions together in a controlled fashion [inverted funnel thermal stirring enhancement method] seems to quick stabilize the CS as it's made making volume irrelevent or the same in a 'localized/pass through' volume and conductivity drops are greatly lessened at the cost of an occasional batch going yellowish. [Which is still 'OK', just not the preferred] If you run the generator to shutdown, let the conductivity drop, then run the batch again till it reaches the shutdown conductivity...each time you do that, the CS edges towards one to one PPM to conductivity equivalent, halving the difference by about 50% or so. It may be possible to have a 'batch sizes switch' to compensate, but that would make an overly complicated machine to build and operate when compensation isn't always the same from operating environment to environment. [Water and other unique factors differ from person to person/ day to day] Two passes in an 8 oz batch shutting down at 20 to 24 uS conductivity gets you to about 18 to 20 PPM A pint may take 3 passes. Each pass approximately halves the difference between conductivity before stabilization and after stabilization where conductivity and PPM are about the same. Each pass takes less time. When the generator just won't stay running in 'stabilized' CS, you're there...or better.. because the particle to ion ratio isn't a set amount and meters [and generators that use conductivity like meters] don't read the particulate portion. So, if you have a dense bright TE, the PPM is higher than the target as gauged by a meter or auto off circuitry. It 'can' be significantly higher, but you need a spectrophotometer to tell how much. I use a spectrophotometer tested batch as a comparison to get a good idea of how much the TE is worth assuming that twice the brightness [a perception] equates to about twice the particle count...still no real numbers. Using [conductivity] apples to count [PPM] oranges isn't an exact science but it's close enough for any practical use. ..especially when any dosing recomendation I've ever seen omits several critical factors, one being body weight. In other words, the recomendations don't make any sense at all...nor do they need to when mere intuition works just fine and guessing wrong [even very wrong] has so few possible negative consequences. Very wrong [that is, wrong enough to even notice that you were wrong at all] , though not 'entirely/absolutely' impossible, is very very hard to do. Ode At 05:33 PM 6/14/2004 -0700, you wrote: No doubt a stupid question for those in the know, but as one who has been using a Silvergen SG6 for several months to make 5-10ppm EIS, how do you do two passes? Terry -Original Message- From: William Meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>20 ppm CS well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How
Re: CS20 ppm CS
I have it on good authority that the SG6 is no longer as noisy as it once was. ;-) [Though I've never actually seen one] And I believe the motor now shuts down when the generator does? This stuff doesn't stand still when being built by the experimenting developer. [VS re-salers..most of which have no idea what the machine really does or doesn't do, or tradition copy cats who build what has been built since the 60s.] Check by the sites now and then. Ode At 09:52 PM 6/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: the silver puppy material states that it makes 10 ppm in it's standard set-up. it shuts off by measuring electrical conductivity. if you make a batch and wait overnite, the electrical conductivity drops (i guess) and re-running the 10 ppm batch results in 20 ppm before the unit shuts down. i tried it once and the silver ion taste was noticeably stronger after second batch. people say trem's sg-7 unit rock for larger batches. the silver puppy rocks for smaller amounts for sure. i used to own an sg-6 and never got down with it. the silver puppy unit resonates with me. in specific, the sg-6 unit was noisy, confused me with it's sequencing of l.e.d.s, rejected lots of distilled water (walgreen's too), and i found i was equivocal about tasting -or not tasting- the telltale mettalic taste of the silver ions. the silver puppy has never confused me and i taste the silver readily. On Jun 14, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Terry wrote: No doubt a stupid question for those in the know, but as one who has been using a Silvergen SG6 for several months to make 5-10ppm EIS, how do you do two passes? Terry -Original Message- From: William Meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>20 ppm CS well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CS20 ppm CS
My SG6 is very quiet. It sits close to my computer and all I can hear is a slight rattling from the stirring rod. Yes it shuts off when it is done. Garnet On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 06:21, Ode Coyote wrote: I have it on good authority that the SG6 is no longer as noisy as itonce was. ;-) [Though I've never actually seen one] And I believe the motor now shuts down when the generator does? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSregarding bladder infections
Some types of cs don't get to the urethras, ureters and to the faucets Ole Coyote so deftly refers to on this gender neutral board. The reason is that HCl in the stomach turns the ionic portion of it to silver chloride which is not as effective as elemental silver which produces ions at the site of infection. When I have time, I will dig up the science we have archived on that from over a century ago, fascinating! My wife, who had UTI's her whole adult life (she is almost 60) until cs entered the scene in 1997, has had no such trouble since she started taking a tsp or 2 daily of our 20 ppm, small particle (under 2 nm), low ionic CS product. I can't give you the name or Mike would blow his whistle and step off 15 yards for advertising without permission. I respect his authority and can't wait for football season, go Cowboys. Bill mailto:b...@utopiatexas.com
CSHigh volume
To Marshall Dudley's question, Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I could show you that process, but then I would have to kill you. Frank could also, and might not be quite so abrupt, so you might check with him. We sell it in 55 gallon drums, however, where a nice profit margin could be priced in. I will go back in my hole for another year now. It was so refreshing to drop by and actually see good solid discussion about colloidal silver. Good job shepherding this list Mike.
CSspiders downunder
Hi folks, VERY interesting show on public TV here yesterday about BUGS - in amongst which was a a very good segment on spiders. This is a victims Site in Oz with good links, too. The world's best-known source of spider venoms for research is the front two rooms of a suburban house in Pasadena(?) USA. Hubby and wife team .. http://adelaidegraham.tripod.com/helen.html Cheers, Himagain
RE: CS20 ppm CS
Both the silverpuppy and SG6 use conductivity feedback to tell when to shut themselves down, The logical thing to do is modify these units, or simply install a mode stitch, manual / auto. It should not be hard to do, unless the units are poured full of epoxy. Or better yet, install a setting control where as one simply dials the ppm. For this to work best, a specific tank size and a few other factors would have to be uniform and controlled better than most amateurs would want to do. These people are trying to leave the amateur class of brewers. IF there is a genuine need for this method, many people can design a unit that will talk. I use a 4 channel voice chip that allows 4 each, 15 second messages. It could say... The ppm is now 5 The ppm is now 10 The ppm is now 15 The ppm is now 20 Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS20 ppm CS
Same here - and it has only rejected one jug of Arrowhead Springs distilled water (and I'm glad it did if it wasn't suitable for making good CS) Terry -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:49 AM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CS20 ppm CS My SG6 is very quiet. It sits close to my computer and all I can hear is a slight rattling from the stirring rod. Yes it shuts off when it is done. Garnet On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 06:21, Ode Coyote wrote: I have it on good authority that the SG6 is no longer as noisy as itonce was. ;-) [Though I've never actually seen one] And I believe the motor now shuts down when the generator does? - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.706 / Virus Database: 462 - Release Date: 6/14/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Hi Ken, You're correct. I have used three different motors over the years on the SG6 Auto. The first two were AC gearhead motors that did not stop running when the generator shut down. They had spur cut gears and were noisy. I now use a very quiet DC motor that stops running when the generator stops. I try to continue development. I've also made several circuit board changes over the years. I'm not content to coast. It just gets better. Trem - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:21 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS20 ppm CS I have it on good authority that the SG6 is no longer as noisy as it once was. ;-) [Though I've never actually seen one] And I believe the motor now shuts down when the generator does? This stuff doesn't stand still when being built by the experimenting developer. [VS re-salers..most of which have no idea what the machine really does or doesn't do, or tradition copy cats who build what has been built since the 60s.] Check by the sites now and then. Ode At 09:52 PM 6/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: the silver puppy material states that it makes 10 ppm in it's standard set-up. it shuts off by measuring electrical conductivity. if you make a batch and wait overnite, the electrical conductivity drops (i guess) and re-running the 10 ppm batch results in 20 ppm before the unit shuts down. i tried it once and the silver ion taste was noticeably stronger after second batch. people say trem's sg-7 unit rock for larger batches. the silver puppy rocks for smaller amounts for sure. i used to own an sg-6 and never got down with it. the silver puppy unit resonates with me. in specific, the sg-6 unit was noisy, confused me with it's sequencing of l.e.d.s, rejected lots of distilled water (walgreen's too), and i found i was equivocal about tasting -or not tasting- the telltale mettalic taste of the silver ions. the silver puppy has never confused me and i taste the silver readily. On Jun 14, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Terry wrote: No doubt a stupid question for those in the know, but as one who has been using a Silvergen SG6 for several months to make 5-10ppm EIS, how do you do two passes? Terry -Original Message- From: William Meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS20 ppm CS well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system
CS20 ppm CS
Hi Wayne, Our SG6 Auto and SG7 Pro both have a PPM control. It can be set from about 5 PPM to about 20 PPM. I occasionally set the calibration higher on special request. It does not require a special tank (or volume ) to operate properly since the unit senses water conductivity to compare with the internal set point of the PPM dial and shuts down when they are the same. I use a 1.25 gallon container for calibrating the SG7 Pro's but supply a 5 gallon container with the unit. I have customers that use much larger production vessels. The generator just runs until the set point is reached. Trem - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:28 AM Subject: [silver_list] RE: CS20 ppm CS Both the silverpuppy and SG6 use conductivity feedback to tell when to shut themselves down, The logical thing to do is modify these units, or simply install a mode stitch, manual / auto. It should not be hard to do, unless the units are poured full of epoxy. Or better yet, install a setting control where as one simply dials the ppm. For this to work best, a specific tank size and a few other factors would have to be uniform and controlled better than most amateurs would want to do. These people are trying to leave the amateur class of brewers. IF there is a genuine need for this method, many people can design a unit that will talk. I use a 4 channel voice chip that allows 4 each, 15 second messages. It could say... The ppm is now 5 The ppm is now 10 The ppm is now 15 The ppm is now 20 Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS20 ppm CS
Trem, we have your SG6 which we find excellent by the way. What size of container would you suggest for it, how large could we go? Would there not be a problem stirring a large vessel effectively? Best wishes, Sheila -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: 15 June 2004 16:28 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS20 ppm CS Hi Wayne, Our SG6 Auto and SG7 Pro both have a PPM control. It can be set from about 5 PPM to about 20 PPM. I occasionally set the calibration higher on special request. It does not require a special tank (or volume ) to operate properly since the unit senses water conductivity to compare with the internal set point of the PPM dial and shuts down when they are the same. I use a 1.25 gallon container for calibrating the SG7 Pro's but supply a 5 gallon container with the unit. I have customers that use much larger production vessels. The generator just runs until the set point is reached. Trem --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/04 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbladder infection
I gave cs to a guy that had blood and pus with a kindey/bladder infection and it cleared up in three days. Steve
CSSilver Citrate
I was wondering if the effectiveness of EIS which is 80 to 90% ionic, might be increased by add a small amount of citric acid after making it. This is for vet use, for horses and so forth, not humans due to the argyria risk involved. What I am thinking is that if it is citrate, then it will not form the chloride in the stomach, and would thus not be wasted, even though it's effectiveness is likely less than the CS portion. Just a thought. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS20 ppm CS
Anyone have any good methods for making large quantities of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. Marshall, I have two of Trems SG-7 units and using both I can produce 10 gallons of 25 ppm EIS in approximately 7 hrs. Ten gallons of 20 ppm could be produced in 4 to 5 hrs. In the past I have produced 20 gallons of 25 ppm EIS in one day. You could buy a 30 or 55 gallon poly (HDPE) drum, use two SG-7 electrode setups and a strong submersible fountain pump ( http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46208 ) for stirring. I havent tried a setup like this yet, but plan on experimenting sometime in the near future. You may want to talk to Trem (1-877-745-8374), he would know more on whether a setup like that would work or be practical. I have made approx. 50 ppm (55uS), clear to very pale yellow EIS with this unit adjusted for no shut off, although it takes about 16 hours to produce 2 gallons. The only other large volume unit I have seen on the market is this one, http://colloidalsilverresearch.com/coll50.htm They claim 50 gallons/day of 5 ppm, using my production numbers with the SG-7 may equate to only 20 to 25 gallons of 20 ppm per day (if it will run the concentration that high) and they want $4000 for that unit. Hope this helps, Chuck
CSCommercial Production
What are the requirements to bottle and sell CS? I have had a friend ask me to supply the horse farm where she is manager with silver. I turned it down since I am not set up with a large volume machine and did not know the ins and outs of legally bottling and selling a nutritional supplement. I suppose much is state specific and I know Texas is very hard on such things. Just wondering what others do in these situations and if there is really any money to made setting up a commercial production facility, as a small business. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
