CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
Hi Trem, I went back to see what you said and to see why I mistook your words. I see now what you meant but in my hurry (too many chores here), it flew over my head. Thank you for correcting me. :) Jean Baugh Hi Jean, Do NOT add peroxide BEFORE making CS. If you want to add it afterwards that will be OK. It will cause the 15% colloidal portion to become ionic. So, instead of being 85% ionic it will be 100% ionic. Trem Williams customer_serv...@silvergen.com www.silvergen.com - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Cancer
Nathan: When I downloaded the tone generator from the link you provided, I got the tone generator (and it's generating tones), but I didn't get any "help" files on how to use the frequencies (I have PCa). Do you have any suggestions for a source? Thanks for your help. Terry -Original Message- From: Nathan Filyk [mailto:nat...@asia.com] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Re: Cancer Sequentially, one at a time. You can get better tone generators that will do that automatically for you. Do a google search. ~Nathan - Original Message - From: "Terry" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:11:42 -0700 To: Subject: RE: CS>Re: Cancer Nathan: One thing I couldn't tell from the site...do you listen to multiple tones simultaneously or one tone at a time? Thanks, Terry -Original Message- From: Nathan Filyk [mailto:nat...@asia.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 6:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Cancer One more thing about cancer, you can get a tone generator and try this: HYPERLINK "http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=follicular+lymphoma+colloidal+silver&hl=en &lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=49d50194.0203081452.fe2189a%40posting.google.com&rnum=3"h ttp://groups.google.ca/groups?q=follicular+lymphoma+colloidal+silver&hl=en&l r=&ie=UTF-8&selm=49d50194.0203081452.fe2189a%40posting.google.com&rnum=3 It's a list of ailments and the frequencies which help improve the illness. Recommended to listen for 1/2 hour sessions each day for the particular ailment (lymphoma cancer in your case) ~Nathan Filyk -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004
Re: CS>What is GSE?
Grapefruit Seed Extract Phinneas wrote: -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>Paul and nasal fungus Garnet wrote: If you do use GSE just be sure you are not allergic to Benzalkonium Chloride (aka Nonoxynol and other names) which is used as a preservative in many GSE products. It causes allergic reactions in some people. It is also the spermicide in many jellies and used in dry clean carpet processes. Allergic is hardly the name for it. It gives me a pain like someone has stabbed me with a hot poker whenever I come in contact with it. Horrible stuff! Marshall Pardon my ignorance, please, but what is "GSE"? Phinneas -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>What is GSE?
-Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>Paul and nasal fungus >Garnet wrote: > >> If you do use GSE just be sure you are not allergic to Benzalkonium >> Chloride (aka Nonoxynol and other names) which is used as a preservative >> in many GSE products. It causes allergic reactions in some people. It is >> also the spermicide in many jellies and used in dry clean carpet >> processes. > >Allergic is hardly the name for it. It gives me a pain like someone has >stabbed me with a hot poker whenever I come in contact with it. Horrible >stuff! > >Marshall Pardon my ignorance, please, but what is "GSE"? Phinneas -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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-Original Message- From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: CS>Paul and nasal fungus Copper does strange things to CS. Drop a small piece of shiney copper into a batch and let it sit for a week or two..you'll see. It pulls about everything out of the water and drops it on the bottom... ***copper still shiney*** or sometimes turns silvery. Ode ~ >>>Hello Ode, and forum, That's strange -- I get quite different results. >>>I place a coiled piece of solid copper wire (about nine inches long) in the bottom of a one-quart glass jug, fill jug with distilled water. While making the CS, ***the copper wire becomes coated with jet-black deposit*** (most of it concentrated closest to positive silver plate, much less so under the negative). When I scrub the wire clean, I get black smears on my fingers which are quite difficult to wash off the fingers. If I replace the clean copper wire in the jug of finished CS and leave it there for 24 to 48 hours, *the wire collects more black deposit ... no droppings of any sort on the bottom of the jug*. >>>While making CS, the negative plate gets coated with near-black deposit, BUT the deposit has ***a red tinge*** ... any explanations for that, folks? No "sparklies" visible with red laser light beam. >>>I am using four 9-volt batteries connected in series. I use two .999 fine silver plates which are about 3/4 inches wide, about 3 and a 1/2 inches length submerged. The plates are about 3/16 of an inch thick (two milimitres). >>>I have the plates about one and a half inches apart, and the electric current is on for about 20 to 25 minutes. I stir the water twice, at about ten minute intervals, by swirling the plates round and round in the jug. The finished CS is usually very clear, but sometimes slightly milky if I have some contamination from somewhere. >>>Question: How come most of the people on this forum take somewhat over an hour to get their finished product? Could it be that mine takes only about 20 minutes, because of the much larger surface areas of the silver plates, compared to the areas of silver wire used by most/many people? >>> -- Just for your information ... your replies will be appreciated -- the first time I made CS, I left the current on for just over one hour, and there was black gunk, both floating on the surface and deposits on the bottom. When I poured the blackish water out, an area of at the bottom of the jug was shiny as a mirror. It was attached to the glass, but scrubbed off quite easily. >>>Regards, Phinneas
CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
Hi Trem, Yes, I did misunderstand. Sorry, my mistake. Then you are saying to not add hydrogen peroxide before OR after making Colloidal Silver. Thank you, Jean Baugh *** > > Jean, > > You misread or misunderstood my earlier reply to you. I said do not add H202 > to the > water before making CS. I didn't say it would make it 100% ionic. That > occurs AFTER > you make the CS and THEN add the H202. It then increases the ionic. content > and > reduces the colloidal portion. > > As Ken (Ode) says, you'll make beautiful silver looking snowflakes in the CS. > Right > Ken? > > Best regards, > > Trem > > - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
Jean, You misread or misunderstood my earlier reply to you. I said do not add H202 to the water before making CS. I didn't say it would make it 100% ionic. That occurs AFTER you make the CS and THEN add the H202. It then increases the ionic. content and reduces the colloidal portion. As Ken (Ode) says, you'll make beautiful silver looking snowflakes in the CS. Right Ken? Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: [silver_list] CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver > Hi, > > I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen peroxide to the steam > distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver because it causes the > resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% ionic without the > hydrogen peroxide. > > Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the hydrogen peroxide is added > after the making of the Colloidal Silver. > > However, unless there is a good reason to add hydrogen peroxide to the water > after making the CS (is there any proof of efficacy), it might not be a good > thing to do. I just read where hydrogen peroxide might be implicated in > Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and copper). > > Jean Baugh > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
I was just curious, that if you use .999 or . silver wire, and since it is not 100% pure silver, what other metals are you getting in your water besides silver? Would that be zinc or copper too? David --- "oldgl...@bigcountry.net" wrote: > Hi, > > I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen > peroxide to the steam > distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver > because it causes the > resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% > ionic without the > hydrogen peroxide. > > Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the > hydrogen peroxide is added > after the making of the Colloidal Silver. > > However, unless there is a good reason to add > hydrogen peroxide to the water > after making the CS (is there any proof of > efficacy), it might not be a good > thing to do. I just read where hydrogen peroxide > might be implicated in > Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and > copper). > > Jean Baugh > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>re: mold
At 06:02 PM 19/07/04, you wrote: "When Pasteur demonstrated in the late 1800s that bacteria caused disease, it took a long while for the public to get a clear idea of what bacteria were and how they did what they did. In the 1930s, many people thought you could catch conjunctivitis by looking at someone who had an infected eye, and even today most people do not know the best way to avoid infections in general. Pasteur didn't do anything of the sort. He was a liar and a plagiarist and worse, a fraud. On the MATRIXIDE Site anyone who is interested ( usually only the CHRONICALLY ill) can begin their education proper in the ills of the pharmaceutical industry here: http://www.fablor.com/matrixide Catching conjunctivits: not "people" Doctors. Doctors didn't and still don't know how to avoid infections. They have the shortest life expectancy of any modern occupation and the worst of those is the Cardiologist. But what is happening is that "modern" science is being gradually made public through leaks in the system like this one, (CSLIST) that the entire key to normal health ( not what we are today, but were) is being . healthy. Not a contradiction, but that you have to do "healthy" things and especially, ingest only "healthy" things. It is also very true that your immediate environment is going to have a great deal to do with your chances of *becoming* healthy. Healthy people aren't sick - they don't "catch" things and their "allergic reactions" are natural and spot-on. They avoid toxins and toxic areas. They can be and are, poisoned. Often quite deliberately, via vaccinations and most pharmaceutical "treatments". The "Health" Authorities know these things, they map them. The catch is that ANY city is no place for humans to live. Especially those who are constitutionally weakened by the constant assaults the modern human body endures. The ultimate test of any treatment is whether or not it is logical and works. I leave you with the two most "studied" "researched" ills of today a trillion dollar business: Cancer AIDS. For neither of which is there is a "modern" cure, and yet hundreds of thousands of people like me have cured themselves of these quite unpleasant and may I say far worse than "allergic" states. You are totally surrounded by active molds and bacteria. The only hope is to get healthy and they will leave you alone. Remember the thing they most want you to forget: Nature regularly culls the herds. ALWAYS takes out the bottom 25% of the herd - the weakest, the unhealthy and the old. How come the other 75% don't "catch" these plagues? Modern true research has shown time and time again that the most critical assault on us outside of "city life" is vaccination. Nobody with a grain of intelligence that researches THAT plague doesn't develop a very healthy fear of the "Authorities". Himagain-going-back-into-his-shell-again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
Hi, I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen peroxide to the steam distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver because it causes the resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% ionic without the hydrogen peroxide. Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the hydrogen peroxide is added after the making of the Colloidal Silver. However, unless there is a good reason to add hydrogen peroxide to the water after making the CS (is there any proof of efficacy), it might not be a good thing to do. I just read where hydrogen peroxide might be implicated in Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and copper). Jean Baugh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Brain Neuron degeneration
John & list, Finally moved. Not yet unpacked totally... it takes time. Just completed an ugly arbitration yesterday and just beginning to get into the swing of things again. Perhaps you will find this interesting. http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/ How Mercury Causes Brain Neuron Degeneration. Source: University of Calgary, Faculty of Medicine, Department of Physiology and Biophysics. My opinion: We voluntarily inject our kids and ourselves with therimsol via vaccinations and the dentist. Under WHO if you do not consent to a vaccination and yet are jabbed, you can file 'assault' charges against those who 'jabbed' you. Oh how the blind lead the blind yet stats of increasing illness suggest perhaps something is amiss... Another thought, check the mercury content in the types of fish you consume. Christine From: Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:54:08 +1000 List, This may be OT but this subject was aired on Aussie TV tonight, concerning the accumulation of zinc and copper in the body. This coupled with Hydrogen Peroxide caused brain damage, resulting in Alzheimer's Disease. I recall a lot of posts regarding combining H2o2 with CS and even ingesting colloidal copper. Question is, will this be harmful to the human body and cause Alzheimer's? Comments, or maybe point me to the newsgroup that may be more appropriate for this subject. John in Australia
Re: CS>Paul and nasal fungus
Thanks everyone for your replies on this. I have tried almost everything suggested, except the Lugol's iodine, which I have thought about, but hesitated as I didn't know if anyone else had ever tried it as a nasal rinse. Now I know it won't kill me, I'll give it a go. I'll write more when I have more time. Best wishes, Paul H
Re: CS>
Too bad Dr Bush and Dr Cherney didn't get to test that on Reagan... CS> hrbe wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:58:39 "Extensive human trials are slated for the US and the UK next year. Australia's population is too small to cater for something so big, but the team did treat 36 patients in a limited trial here recently and Dr Bush and Dr Cherney are even more excited." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>
That sounds really familiar, somehow... CS> hrbe wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:58:39 ..."Dr Bush and Dr Cherney urge people to "... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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List, This may be OT but this subject was aired on Aussie TV tonight, concerning the accumulation of zinc and copper in the body. This coupled with Hydrogen Peroxide caused brain damage, resulting in Alzheimer's Disease. I recall a lot of posts regarding combining H2o2 with CS and even ingesting colloidal copper. Question is, will this be harmful to the human body and cause Alzheimer's? Comments, or maybe point me to the newsgroup that may be more appropriate for this subject. John in Australia A Current Affair. Nine MSN Alzheimer's disease: solving the puzzle 21 July 2004 Alzheimer's disease is gradually eating at the fabric of 150,000 Australian families. The impact of the condition is both cruel and frightening, particularly for the sufferer's loved ones. But as ACA reports, researchers have discovered a treatment to target the cause of disorder rather than the symptoms. For Dr Ashley Bush and colleague Dr Rob Cherney, determining the cause of Alzheimer's was the first step in their quest to find a cure. In their search for answers, the pair found that Alzheimer brain tissue is speckled with abnormal "blobs" of a naturally occurring protein called beta amyloid. Initially, it was thought the clusters or plaques themselves somehow caused the disease but the Australian scientists looked even further. What they found was a high concentration of zinc within the regions of the plaques. They also found high levels of another metal in the body, copper. Dr Bush and his team applied classic high school chemistry to theorise that the extreme concentrations of copper were in fact reacting with the protein to form a third lethal substance. "The damage in Alzheimer's disease is actually caused by the invisible hydrogen peroxide generation that goes on in the background and can't be seen down the microscope," explains Dr Bush. Hydrogen peroxide is in fact, the active ingredient in bleach. It's estimated that for every one person with Alzheimer's, three others closest to them suffer a similar decline in productivity and quality of life, which is a ticking time bomb. "By the age of 50, almost 50 percent of people have already got evidence of Alzheimer's disease in their brains," says Dr Bush. "By the age of 80, almost 100 percent of people have got the pathology of Alzheimer's in their brain. So if you live long enough, you will get evidence of the damage occurring." Bearing in mind we are living longer, by the year 2030, it's predicted we'll be able to fill a town the size of Geelong entirely with Alzheimer's sufferers. Dr Bush calls it the social meteorite because scientists can see it coming. But, if we've got any hope of escaping this meteorite, Bush and his team must prove that what's good for mice is also good for man through breeding mice which will develop Alzheimer's. Following this research, Bush and his team believe the drug Cliocwinol, or a variant, is the key. The drug was used in the 1970s to treat diarrhoea and skin irritations. "The available drugs had just been dealing with the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease rather than the underlying cause of it," says Dr Bush. "We think we've got the first drug that is actually dealing with the underlying biochemistry and showing inhibition of it and perhaps even the reversal of it [Alzheimer's]." Extensive human trials are slated for the US and the UK next year. Australia's population is too small to cater for something so big, but the team did treat 36 patients in a limited trial here recently and Dr Bush and Dr Cherney are even more excited. The first sign of Alzheimer's is memory loss. Now, in an era where we're developing new drugs that can do something about the underlying damage to the brain, it's important to identify when this pathology commences as soon as possible. Dr Bush and Dr Cherney urge people to speak to their GPs if they're displaying any early symptoms, with the first of these drugs not likely to be available for the next three years.
