CSRe:CSdmso and collodial silver
Jacob Lab Toll Free 1-866-375-2262 Fax 1-503-636-1664 Web www.JacobLab.com Mail P.O. Box 23363 Portland, Or. 97281 -- Someone posted a while back about a web site that you can purchase a low dose dmso. I believe it may have been 5 per cent. Does anyone know of a place that sells this. Also, you can now buy liquid msm and i was wondering how that would help penetrate the cs into jaw tissues for infection.Thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother microbiologist murdered
They probably want to kill off the social security aged group to avoid paying benefits. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: RE: CSAnother microbiologist murdered Probably. And or they don't someone growing a conscience and spilling the beans. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAnother microbiologist murdered There's been another microbiologist murdered, which makes it 40 microbiologists murdered or killed under mysterious circumstances, in the last 4 years. Is all this incidental, or is some powerful group trying to kill off our best virus specialists before releasing a killer flu or other super-virus, in order to greatly reduce the population? http://archive.columbiatribune.com/2005/jan/20050109news003.asp http://www.stevequayle.com/C2C.index.dead.scientist.html Scientists are already experimenting with the Spanish flu virus, and now the CDC is also creating new super-viruses: http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218392453 Keep your EIS and olive leaf handy. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother microbiologist murdered
Morning James, At 03:09 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote: They probably want to kill off the social security aged group to avoid paying benefits. I disagree, slightly, for one reason. This being my belief about the Social Security Fund fraud. Would like to discuss this on the OT list to see if I am crazy or maybe someone else agrees with me. Wayne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSS Fund Fraud and the OT List
In a message dated 1/23/2005 7:53:27 AM Central Standard Time, cwfug...@earthlink.net writes: This being my belief about the Social Security Fund fraud. Would like to discuss this on the OT list to see if I am crazy or maybe someone else agrees with me. Well, I'd sure like to read about this, but I can't seem to access the OT list. It tells me the website is not responding. Am I doing something wrong? MA
CSRe: cs and zylitol for eyes
Has anyone else tried this mixture in the eyes? Just an encouragement here for those of you who have tried and haven't tried 1 level teaspoon of Xylitol per 8 oz of CS as a nasal spray : this mix continues to benefit a great number of people with both sinus infections and sinus allergies. You can make the stuff up for a lot less than what it is being sold for on the internet. Even people with chronic nasal problems who have almost given up hope of finding anything that will work for them are finding benefit from this - even if they have to use it 4-5 times per day. It's non addictive and doesn't have the rebound problems of antihistamines. Not sure why it works with those folks who have allergies but it does provide relief and it definitely helps those with infections. I am trying to find who sent this post, but the real point is that someone has been using this mix in their EYES and got amazingly good results. I can't find the post about the eyes--maybe from another list, but they were very convincing about the good results for the sinuses by using this as an eye wash. I would like to try this but want more input first as to safety. tiapj __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSxylitol and CS
I wouldn't pay much attention to that as I quite often have to soak the lids of my CS jars to get rid of the mold that grows there. It grows on the moist inside of the lid which is moist with water vapor which is the same as pure distilled water. If I saw mold growing in or under the Xylitol then it would be a concern. Dave brick...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Hi Brickley, Where did you get the info that Xylitol feed Aspergillus? Paul Holloway (silver-List) saw Aspergillus growing inside of a Xylitol bottle. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSS Fund Fraud and the OT List
Was probably a transient of some sort, Marmar. The web site is responding for me right now. Web archive and posting addresses for the Off Topic List are in the footer at the bottom of each message from this list, folks! Well, I'd sure like to read about this, but I can't seem to access the OT list. It tells me the website is not responding. Am I doing something wrong? MA Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:CSdmso and collodial silver
I think that bloodroot is superior to CS/DMSO for this application, or at least could precede CS/DMSO for that kind of infection. In everything, proceed cautiously and keep in mind that no one on this list can give medical advice. On Sunday, Jan 23, 2005, at 08:29 Asia/Tokyo, William Amos wrote: Also, you can now buy liquid msm and i was wondering how that would help penetrate the cs into jaw tissues for infection.Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:CSdmso and collodial silver
What I have read is that MSM itself can penetrate into tissues, but it cannot carry any other substance with it as DMSO can. Info is available at www.jacoblab.com online, and in several books on MSM and DMSO. You can always dilute DMSO down to 5 % from whatever strength you purchase. I use CS pretty exclusively to dilute DMSO to the strength I need. sol -- Someone posted a while back about a web site that you can purchase a low dose dmso. I believe it may have been 5 per cent. Does anyone know of a place that sells this. Also, you can now buy liquid msm and i was wondering how that would help penetrate the cs into jaw tissues for infection.Thanks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStetrasil, etc.
Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSS Fund Fraud and the OT List
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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve.This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black background. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Where can we get zinc chloride? Don't know if I've ever seen it. thanks, Sally Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how would you recommend storing it? Many thanks, Roger B This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin.
RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I think chaparral has some cautionary about use. caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue or jaundice occur bloodroot cautionary not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea do not exceed recommended dosage bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use sparingly. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob
Re: CS***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?
At 03:39 AM 21/01/05, you wrote: If you wrote me directly and I did not resond, I apologize. Some weekends I receive over 10,000 spams, and with no more than 3 or 4 real messages hidden in them, I occasionally delete something as spam that should not be. Marshall Hi Marshall, You definitely need Eudora Pro and Spamwatch( paid version) ! :-) Or use trick #2,789: regularly change your email address, tell everyone you care about and delete the old. Cheers! Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: cs and zylitol for eyes
When you find out what mix to use for the eyes, please send it to: ch...@shaw.ca Thank you, Cliff Hume. - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: CSRe: cs and zylitol for eyes Has anyone else tried this mixture in the eyes? Just an encouragement here for those of you who have tried and haven't tried 1 level teaspoon of Xylitol per 8 oz of CS as a nasal spray : this mix continues to benefit a great number of people with both sinus infections and sinus allergies. You can make the stuff up for a lot less than what it is being sold for on the internet. Even people with chronic nasal problems who have almost given up hope of finding anything that will work for them are finding benefit from this - even if they have to use it 4-5 times per day. It's non addictive and doesn't have the rebound problems of antihistamines. Not sure why it works with those folks who have allergies but it does provide relief and it definitely helps those with infections. I am trying to find who sent this post, but the real point is that someone has been using this mix in their EYES and got amazingly good results. I can't find the post about the eyes--maybe from another list, but they were very convincing about the good results for the sinuses by using this as an eye wash. I would like to try this but want more input first as to safety. tiapj __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I do not know. I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste. The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life.Bottom line: all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it as you need it even if it did go bad. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how would you recommend storing it? Many thanks, Roger B This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin.
RE: CStest - what happens to your messages - bit off topic now
At 05:44 AM 21/01/05, you wrote: Years ago the government had a program like this called Carnivore. When they began to use it there was an uproar and supposedly they shut it down. Now with the Patriotic Act they can literally do anything so I imagine it is going full tilt. William wrote: A better explanation could be the Echelon Network designed by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and shared with the national security agencies for Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as quoted in a letter I have from U..S. Senator Rick Santorum dated 2-17-2000. It is an international surveillance system that searches for key words in messages and forwards them to an intelligence analyst to determine if a threat exists...Bill. -- Hi folks, Echelon was originally a NSA international project as Bill said, but Carnivore was a product developed for the FBI to use internally (in USA) but they dropped it when they found that the universally available free Cracking tools used by the Skriptkiddeze ( schoolkid amateurs) were far better than their million dollar toy! The later developments ( basically by an Australian who virtually invented the super-datamining technology) have led to numerous others,the most secret of which is Perihelion. Really scary. But, for most of us, the more mundane truth is as I mentioned previously - scumbags who get off on little power trips, like SpamCop . Here is an interesting extract from only a week ago -- FBI surveillance experts have put their once-controversial Carnivore Internet surveillance tool out to pasture, preferring instead to use commercial products to eavesdrop on network traffic, according to documents released Friday. Two http://www.epic.orgreports to Congress obtained by the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Center under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that the FBI didn't use Carnivore, or its rebranded version DCS-1000, at all during the 2002 and 2003 fiscal years. Instead, the bureau turned to unnamed commercially-available products to conduct Internet surveillance thirteen times in criminal investigations in that period. Carnivore became a http://www.securityfocus.com/news/97hot topic among civil liberations, some network operators and many lawmakers in 2000, when an ISP's legal challenge brought the surveillance tool's existence to light. One controversy revolved around the FBI's legally-murky use of the device to obtain e-mail headers and other information without a wiretap warrant -- ***an issue Congress resolved by explicitly legalizing the practice in the 2001 USA PATRIOT Act. -- Cheers? Himagain 1984 - just 20 years late, that's all... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I took chaparral tincture several years ago for a chest infection. Think I took it for several days. We were talking about a skin salve though, weren't we? It should be safe for that. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I think chaparral has some cautionary about use. caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue or jaundice occur bloodroot cautionary not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea do not exceed recommended dosage bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use sparingly. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Some interesting recipes of Dr. Chase, including Blood Root... http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/books/drchase/chas.html - Original Message - From: Ed Kasper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I think chaparral has some cautionary about use. caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue or jaundice occur bloodroot cautionary not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea do not exceed recommended dosage bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use sparingly. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob
Re: CS
Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent - Original Message - From: Denise Rollheiser To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: CS Not sure if I've ever introduced myselfI'm Denise, from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada and I have been lurking for some months here, trying to learn all I can about CS - and WOW! I have learned lots! I'm needing to pick your collective brains, please..I apologize for this being a tad lengthy but I am hoping that someone might possibly be able to provide a light at the end of the tunnel for me! A bit of 'background' infoI have a number of auto-immune disorders - type II diabetes (since resolved following biliopancreatic diversion/duodenal switch in April 04), chronic obstructive sleep apnea (resolved as a result of BPD/DS surgery and a subsequent loss of 65#s to date), Graves Disease (dx Jan 1998) and I have been on eltroxin since Aug 1998. I suffered from cold feet (internal core cold NOT cold to touch) in 1998 after the radioactive isotope drink to deal with my overactive thyroid; this symptom went away when my thyroid counts were better under control. I have again been living with 'core cold feet' since my BPD/DS surgery...I have seen a surgeon (my primary caregiver wanted to rule out circulatory problems), I have seen an endocrinologist who advises me that he refuses to adjust my thyroid medication until I have lost all the weight that I can post-surgery. I have seen a hypnotist in an attempt to learn how to control my internal body thermometer myselfI refuse to return to this psychiatrist/hypnotist as he was most insistent that I attend 'group therapy sessions' (3 days/week for 2 hours each time - which would actually be 3 hours each time when you factor in travel time to and from work). Okay - enough 'background'... I saw my neurologist today (21 Jan 05) about the 'cold feet' that I have been experiencing since April 04. After a thorough neurological exam (?), Dr. V gave me a diagnosis of diabetic neuropathy.! Duh - I was a diabetic for 10 years, the last 4 quite severe so this was not a surprise diagnosis to me! He dictated his report while I was sitting in the exam room and I am going to be contacting my family physician next week to get a copy of this report as there were some 'interesting' words that I heard him use I asked him if this 'neuropathy' that I had is also known as 'peripheral' neuropathyDr. V said that it was a form of peripheral neuropathyagain - not a surprise to me. There are a couple of drugs that we discussed as maybe being of assistanceTopomax (topamax) and Gabapentin...I have a prescription for gabapentin... I came home and did a google search for gabapentin and topomaxand I'm not sure I'm willing to start taking either drug. Not sure what to do/which direction to go from hereI have kinda hit the end of the road as far as looking for answersI always figured that the neurologist would be sort of the last step in this journey and well - now that I am here - I'm not sure I like it! I have read with great interest about CS working on a myriad of medical problems...I am wondering if it (CS) might be able to help me deal with the problems I am experiencing I apologize again for the length of my 'story' - but I am almost ready to have my feet amputated to get rid of the 'cold'and I know that something as drastic as amputation wouldn't be the answer either'cause then there'd be the'phantom pain!' to deal with. Thank you. Denise Saskatoon, Sk Canada neec...@sasktel.net
