Re: CSY2K?
It may also be discovered that Big Pharma and Big Supplement is owned by the same people called stock holders. The intent and mission of the FDA is to protect people, but, the funding and political structure is not set up to accomplish that task very well. ..that, along with the pervasive mindset of protecting stupid people from themselves, as though laws against stupidity ever made anyone smarter...limits intelligent careful people along with the idiots. So, who demands these laws and regulatory political institutions? Everybody that sues anybody when either party screws up. It's always easier to display someone elses ignorance. To choose thoughtfully is my right. To choose wrong is your fault. If someone else gets to choose, it's always their fault. See how that works? Choose for me! No, not like that! ..same old game. Those who are employed to do your choosing for you must limit your parameters in self defense...like any insurance company must. Interesting that the words discrimination and dis-crimination now have an inverse relationship. Ode At 04:52 PM 3/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: Are you of the opinion that the pharmaceutical industry isn't trying to stop the sale of natural supplements? Personally, I think in this market-driven society, no one is going to stop the sale of anything that is making big bucks... and the supplement industry brings in something like a couple of billion dollars a year, from what I recollect hearing. That's nothing to sneeze at, even by Big Pharma. Rather than trying to stop the sale of natural supplements, I think they would be more likely to get on the bandwagon and join in reaping the profits... that way they'd be getting the bucks from the people who do use their drugs, and also profit from the people who don't. If there's money to be made, I think they'd go after it, rather than possibly losing a huge market completely, which I think is a real possibility. I'm sure a lot of people who prefer using natural things and tend to be independent aren't going to just jump into using pharmaceuticals if the choice is taken away. So instead of bringing those folks into the pharmaceutical fold, they'd just end up losing that market completely, and I don't think they want to see that happen. Sure, they might not make as much money from a natural herbal that they can't patent, but any sale is better than no sale when you've got stockholders to please, eh? Denise -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
RE: CSbook recommendation
I think you'll find that the membrane system in the body is a highly intelligent reverse osmosis water treatment plant. If that is working properly, it doesn't matter what water you drink. Ode At 09:10 PM 3/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: Yes, Overdosed America by John Abramson, M.D. He was a family practitioner in private practice for years, and then went into research medicine. Here's a link to the book at Amazon if you'd like to read more about it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060568526/qid=1110748153/ sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-8092274-0252108?v=glances=booksn=507846 Denise Hi, Would anyone know the darned truth about the issue surrounding spring water vs distilled/reverse osmosis. I'm getting conflicting information from various sources regarding this matter. Everyone seems to have their own take on it, including viable doctors in homeopathic medicine. There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence supporting whether one is better then the other, unless I've been looking in the wrong places. Many thanks Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Cholesterol is a red herring. The real culprit is industrial vegetable oils and trans-fats. At the beginning of the 1900s, people ate animal fats on a regular basis. Myocardial Infarctions were extremely rare. The ramp-up exactly follows the use of industrial oils as food. Search: Mary Enig, The Oiling Of America. Mindblowing expose of the whole scam. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol How to LOWER cholesterol, first IF we look as to why the body produces cholesterol we would find it is the bodies attempt to HEAL. Number ONE culprits are grains, sugar and starches these trigger off insulin production that damages the walls of the arteries and the body then PRODUCES cholesterol to repair the damage. So the true trick to lowering cholesterol production is to lower the quick release carbs that are CAUSING THE PROBLEM!!! Omega 3's helps lower the free radicals (they also damage the walls) so it is helpful as well. but the main thing is to lower the carbs!!! Now the reason to take vit B's is the sugars and starches also lower them as well as the Omega 3's. But in either case lowering grains, sugar and starches are the way to solve a LOT of health problems not just cholesterol. It will also lower inflammation (often the cause of pain) so there is a lot of incentive if you are sick or want to be healthier to lower the grains (wheat being the worse of the grains by the way) Louise -Original Message- From: Simon [mailto:simon1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I have been reading a lot lately about Vitamin C, has anyone on the list had any good results with high doses of Vitamin C helping to lower cholesterol
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
just wondering has anyone heard of syndrome X or MSX ( metabolic syndrome X) Lynda not cs related but does relate to cholesterol - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Cholesterol is a red herring. The real culprit is industrial vegetable oils and trans-fats. At the beginning of the 1900s, people ate animal fats on a regular basis. Myocardial Infarctions were extremely rare. The ramp-up exactly follows the use of industrial oils as food. Search: Mary Enig, The Oiling Of America. Mindblowing expose of the whole scam. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol How to LOWER cholesterol, first IF we look as to why the body produces cholesterol we would find it is the bodies attempt to HEAL. Number ONE culprits are grains, sugar and starches these trigger off insulin production that damages the walls of the arteries and the body then PRODUCES cholesterol to repair the damage. So the true trick to lowering cholesterol production is to lower the quick release carbs that are CAUSING THE PROBLEM!!! Omega 3's helps lower the free radicals (they also damage the walls) so it is helpful as well. but the main thing is to lower the carbs!!! Now the reason to take vit B's is the sugars and starches also lower them as well as the Omega 3's. But in either case lowering grains, sugar and starches are the way to solve a LOT of health problems not just cholesterol. It will also lower inflammation (often the cause of pain) so there is a lot of incentive if you are sick or want to be healthier to lower the grains (wheat being the worse of the grains by the way) Louise -Original Message- From: Simon [mailto:simon1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I have been reading a lot lately about Vitamin C, has anyone on the list had any good results with high doses of Vitamin C helping to lower cholesterol
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
True, but boy, did they have brittle bones! Protein is made of acids after all... Marshalee And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSY2K?
Denise Every wrote: Are you of the opinion that the pharmaceutical industry isn't trying to stop the sale of natural supplements? Personally, I think in this market-driven society, no one is going to stop the sale of anything that is making big bucks... and the supplement industry brings in something like a couple of billion dollars a year, from what I recollect hearing. That's nothing to sneeze at, even by Big Pharma. Rather than trying to stop the sale of natural supplements, I think they would be more likely to get on the bandwagon and join in reaping the profits... that way they'd be getting the bucks from the people who do use their drugs, and also profit from the people who don't. What bandwagon? Understand that when a drug company patents a pill, they end up with a cost to produce it of typically 1 to 10 cents, and will sell it for between 1 and 10 dollars, for a 100:1 or better markup. Supplements typically cost significantly more to produce since they are not simply produced chemically or with microorgamisms, and sell for much less, with a mark up of 10% to 50%. Since the supplement will in many cases replace the patented pill, why would a company want to sell a supplement with a profit of around 5 cents a pill instead of a patented pill at 99 cents to $9.99 profit. If they joined the bandwagon and allowed the information that such and such supplement at 10 cents a pop will replace their pill at $5.00 a pop, they will be losing 95% of their earnings. If there's money to be made, I think they'd go after it, rather than possibly losing a huge market completely, which I think is a real possibility. But there is no many to be made if they did that, they would lose huge earnings as outlined above. I'm sure a lot of people who prefer using natural things and tend to be independent aren't going to just jump into using pharmaceuticals if the choice is taken away. No, many will get sick and die (regardless of whether they join the phamaceuticals or not). This supports another agenda. So instead of bringing those folks into the pharmaceutical fold, they'd just end up losing that market completely, and I don't think they want to see that happen. The people who are taking supplements are not in the market, and thus will not be lost to them. Selling supplements instead of patent medicines may double their sales volume, but the dollar amount of the sales will drop by over 90%. Not a win for the pharms. Sure, they might not make as much money from a natural herbal that they can't patent, but any sale is better than no sale when you've got stockholders to please, eh? Not when that sale of a nickel item replaces the sale of a $5.00 item. That is a 99% loss in sales, and would NOT satisfy the stockholders. Marshall Denise -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
I bet they had virtually zero grains. Probably fruits, berries, nuts, and roots in season, but no grains? sol Marshall Dudley wrote: And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
Marshalee, Have you got any references for that? Bone structure and health is very protein dependent. In a bone break for example, the first thing that happens is a protein fiber matrix is laid down across the broken ends. Minerals are deposited in that matrix. sol Marshalee wrote: True, but boy, did they have brittle bones! Protein is made of acids after all... Marshalee And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe[2]: CSbook recommendation
Hi Ode, Yeah you are a pretty smart guy. You got a website or a book filled with yuor wisdom somewhere? tell me more. I want to add you to my knowledge gathering sources. Take care, V I think you'll find that the membrane system in the body is a highly intelligent reverse osmosis water treatment plant. If that is working properly, it doesn't matter what water you drink. Ode At 09:10 PM 3/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: Yes, Overdosed America by John Abramson, M.D. He was a family practitioner in private practice for years, and then went into research medicine. Here's a link to the book at Amazon if you'd like to read more about it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060568526/qid=1110748153/ sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-8092274-0252108?v=glances=booksn=507846 Denise Hi, Would anyone know the darned truth about the issue surrounding spring water vs distilled/reverse osmosis. I'm getting conflicting information from various sources regarding this matter. Everyone seems to have their own take on it, including viable doctors in homeopathic medicine. There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence supporting whether one is better then the other, unless I've been looking in the wrong places. Many thanks Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 --
Re: CSbook recommendation
Even when laced with Chlorine ? think you'll find that the membrane system in the body is a highly intelligent reverse osmosis water treatment plant. If that is working properly, it doesn't matter what water you drink. Ode Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
Nah, just something in a book I read a long time ago. It mentioned how the old (pre-sugar and white man foods) Inuit died mostly of osteoporosis in their forties and fifties. Maybe too much protein isn`t good, either... Marshalee Marshalee, Have you got any references for that? Bone structure and health is very protein dependent. In a bone break for example, the first thing that happens is a protein fiber matrix is laid down across the broken ends. Minerals are deposited in that matrix. sol Marshalee wrote: True, but boy, did they have brittle bones! Protein is made of acids after all... Marshalee And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe water debate
The statement Ernie made about there not seeming to be any real science behind the various claims about which water is better than which goes to the heart of the matter. Most everyone agrees that water that is full of chemicals or pathogens would not be good for you. After that, the controversy over which purification system is best and which form of water is healthiest rages on. When I studied Dr. Carey Reams' teaching, he explained that water is a carrier in our bodies, transporting nutrients throughout the body to the places they were needed, then carrying toxins and waste products to the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To accomplish this, he said, water was best utilized when it was empty. Indeed, he said, when we drink water containing various substances (minerals, chemicals, etc.), our bodies must first distill the water before using it. This metabolic distillation operation of our bodies is part of its defense system to remove and protect itself from substances it doesn't want, as well as prepare the water for its transporting function. This is also why distilled water doesn't leech minerals from our bodies, but just the reverse, our bodies remove the inorganic minerals from the water. I found this explanation to make a lot of sense, and, along with Reams' other teachings, are an integral part of my concept of the aspects of health. Other folks certainly have differing opinions, of course, but that's what makes it all so interesting! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPurifying Water in Waterbed
Hi: Could anybody advise me about using colloidal silver in the vinyl bladder of a soft-sider water mattress? The manufacturer wants me to put some really poisonous stuff in it every year to kill any fungi and/or other beasties that might be in the water, because these tend to attack the vinyl of the water bed bladders. Naturally, we don't want to sleep on water that has been poisoned this way, and I was thinking of just putting a quart or two of CS into the bladder occasionally. I am sure this would work to keep down the undesireables, but would the CS interact in any way harmful to the vinyl? It does not seem to me that it would, but I don't know much about such things. Given the depth of scientific expertise on this list, I am hoping somebody can provide at least an informed opinion about this? Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCSRe[2]: CSbook recommendation
Ode, just remember to change those filters once in awhile or they actually create a mo'dangerous condition. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: V [mailto:zon...@expo-net.org] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:25 AM To: Ode Coyote Subject: CSRe[2]: CSbook recommendation I think you'll find that the membrane system in the body is a highly intelligent reverse osmosis water treatment plant. If that is working properly, it doesn't matter what water you drink. Ode Would anyone know the darned truth about the issue surrounding spring water vs distilled/reverse osmosis. I'm getting conflicting information from various sources regarding this matter. Everyone seems to have their own take on it, including viable doctors in homeopathic medicine. There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence supporting whether one is better then the other, unless I've been looking in the wrong places. Many thanks Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe water debate
Distilled water is the benchmark. All other water is impure as it contains something. maybe good maybe bad. When we want the good stuff to go in - the purer the water the freer to carry more of what we want into our body. Our cells gain the advantage of having more good stuff to choose from (osmosis) and the purer the water the better opportunity to dispose debris and toxins (osmosis) On both sides of the equatation (osmosis) equals leaching and this is exactly what we want. called homeostatis. balance. if you have xyz inside the cell you can not eliminate it by having xyz in the water or with no room for the ride out. Of course if you do not eat anything or plan to add anything into your body but distilled water I reckon you'd be turning yourself inside out until you simply vanished into a puddle in the night. Why is this not simple? Distilled water does not exist INSIDE our bodies. Or maybe thats where those MD's are right. Distilled water picks up all those cheeseburgers, fries and a coke on its way and distrubutes it all along its route and that - is a bad thing! Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: TC [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe water debate The statement Ernie made about there not seeming to be any real science behind the various claims about which water is better than which goes to the heart of the matter. Most everyone agrees that water that is full of chemicals or pathogens would not be good for you. After that, the controversy over which purification system is best and which form of water is healthiest rages on. When I studied Dr. Carey Reams' teaching, he explained that water is a carrier in our bodies, transporting nutrients throughout the body to the places they were needed, then carrying toxins and waste products to the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To accomplish this, he said, water was best utilized when it was empty. Indeed, he said, when we drink water containing various substances (minerals, chemicals, etc.), our bodies must first distill the water before using it. This metabolic distillation operation of our bodies is part of its defense system to remove and protect itself from substances it doesn't want, as well as prepare the water for its transporting function. This is also why distilled water doesn't leech minerals from our bodies, but just the reverse, our bodies remove the inorganic minerals from the water. I found this explanation to make a lot of sense, and, along with Reams' other teachings, are an integral part of my concept of the aspects of health. Other folks certainly have differing opinions, of course, but that's what makes it all so interesting! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe water debate
Are you saying that distilled water is better to drink as a rule, than ordinary filtered water? If this is so, then I could see why distilled H20 with CS would be able to get to the source more efficiently. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Distilled water is the benchmark. All other water is impure as it contains something. maybe good maybe bad. When we want the good stuff to go in - the purer the water the freer to carry more of what we want into our body. Our cells gain the advantage of having more good stuff to choose from (osmosis) and the purer the water the better opportunity to dispose debris and toxins (osmosis) On both sides of the equatation (osmosis) equals leaching and this is exactly what we want. called homeostatis. balance. if you have xyz inside the cell you can not eliminate it by having xyz in the water or with no room for the ride out. Of course if you do not eat anything or plan to add anything into your body but distilled water I reckon you'd be turning yourself inside out until you simply vanished into a puddle in the night. Why is this not simple? Distilled water does not exist INSIDE our bodies. Or maybe thats where those MD's are right. Distilled water picks up all those cheeseburgers, fries and a coke on its way and distrubutes it all along its route and that - is a bad thing! Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: TC [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe water debate The statement Ernie made about there not seeming to be any real science behind the various claims about which water is better than which goes to the heart of the matter. Most everyone agrees that water that is full of chemicals or pathogens would not be good for you. After that, the controversy over which purification system is best and which form of water is healthiest rages on. When I studied Dr. Carey Reams' teaching, he explained that water is a carrier in our bodies, transporting nutrients throughout the body to the places they were needed, then carrying toxins and waste products to the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To accomplish this, he said, water was best utilized when it was empty. Indeed, he said, when we drink water containing various substances (minerals, chemicals, etc.), our bodies must first distill the water before using it. This metabolic distillation operation of our bodies is part of its defense system to remove and protect itself from substances it doesn't want, as well as prepare the water for its transporting function. This is also why distilled water doesn't leech minerals from our bodies, but just the reverse, our bodies remove the inorganic minerals from the water. I found this explanation to make a lot of sense, and, along with Reams' other teachings, are an integral part of my concept of the aspects of health. Other folks certainly have differing opinions, of course, but that's what makes it all so interesting! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
One more time, nothing is as it seems. Thank you Marshall. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Cholesterol is a red herring. The real culprit is industrial vegetable oils and trans-fats. At the beginning of the 1900s, people ate animal fats on a regular basis. Myocardial Infarctions were extremely rare. The ramp-up exactly follows the use of industrial oils as food. Search: Mary Enig, The Oiling Of America. Mindblowing expose of the whole scam. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol How to LOWER cholesterol, first IF we look as to why the body produces cholesterol we would find it is the bodies attempt to HEAL. Number ONE culprits are grains, sugar and starches these trigger off insulin production that damages the walls of the arteries and the body then PRODUCES cholesterol to repair the damage. So the true trick to lowering cholesterol production is to lower the quick release carbs that are CAUSING THE PROBLEM!!! Omega 3's helps lower the free radicals (they also damage the walls) so it is helpful as well. but the main thing is to lower the carbs!!! Now the reason to take vit B's is the sugars and starches also lower them as well as the Omega 3's. But in either case lowering grains, sugar and starches are the way to solve a LOT of health problems not just cholesterol. It will also lower inflammation (often the cause of pain) so there is a lot of incentive if you are sick or want to be healthier to lower the grains (wheat being the worse of the grains by the way) Louise -Original Message- From: Simon [mailto:simon1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I have been reading a lot lately about Vitamin C, has anyone on the list had any good results with high doses of Vitamin C helping to lower cholesterol
CSRe: SORosa rugosa questions
As I have been asked multiple times, recently, where persons may obtain reasonably-priced native Rosa Rugosa plants.following is my answer to Wayne Fugitt's inquiry. I believe this information will be of interest to all of you who contacted me on this matter. There are other economical sources, but these people appear to have the lowest prices for bare-root seedlings. I have, presently on order, an additional 25 plants from them. This is the first time for us to order from them. I will post comment on my opinion of their stockas soon as I receive the plants. If they are satisfactory I intend to obtain an additional 200. Additionally, for list members interested in the long-term preservation of material obtained via grinding, pulverizing, powdering the gross hips from Rosa Rugosa I suggest consideration of the following: Obtain a vacuum sealing machine used for packaging home-grown fruits, vegetables, etc., and use it to vacuum seal your hips in medium size plastic enclosures. Then store them at 20 degrees F, or lower.the material will keep for extended periods of time (beyond 3 years) with only marginal reduction of effectivity. For those possessing large quantities of hips, a somewhat similar procedure utilizing larger ready-to-use vacuum bags which can be evacuated by most conventional home vacuum systems (upright or canister)...to a sufficiently-low vacuum to enable a very close proximity to the results of the system memtioned above. I do not, off-hand, remember the exact manufacturer of the specific bags we utilized for the home-vacuum technique; but I believe a reasonable facsimile may be located via a Google search. I hope this information is of some value to interested parties. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Dear Wayne, Try Four Seasons Nursery, Division of Plantron Inc. 1706 Morissey Drive, Bloomington, Ill. 61704. They will sell you 24 small native Rosa Rugosas for 24.95...total cost. Ph. 309-834-7200. I suggest you plant them in 1 gallon posts for the first yearunless you are in the deep south. In that case you might opt to just plant them in a well-prepared hole and at a 5 to 6 foot intervaland turn them loose. Good luck, Brooks. P.S. I am planting an additional 100 plants this year.myself. These [plants will produce (about 15 % of them) some hips the second year. 85% of them will produce a reasonable crop of hips the 3rd year and a bountiful one from then on. -- Original message -- From: Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net Has anyone collected any information about the Roga Rugosa plants and growing methods? I would like to order a few of these plants shortly. I find few sources and the price ranges from $14.00 to $ 24.00 per plant. I would consider planting a row from 50 feet to 200 feet in length, if the plants were more reasonably priced. At these prices, I may become interested in propagation of the plants. I am also seeing plants listed that are hybrids. This makes me think that a number of species or families may exist. Family: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/111//pf/b/Rosaceae///Rosaceae (ro-ZAY-see-ee) (http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/111//botanary/go/13159/Info) Genus: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/111//pf/b/Rosaceae/Rosa/Rosa (RO-zuh) (http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/111//botanary/go/4997/Info) Cultivar: Therese Bugnet Additional cultivar information: Thérèse Bugnet 1950 Synonym:Rosa rugosa Class: Hybrid Rugosa Rugosa Rose, Sea Tomato Scientific Name: http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Rosaceae/Rosa.htmlRosa rugosa Thunb. Synonym: Family: http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Rosaceae/Rosaceae.htmlRosaceae Surely someone other than Brooks is interested in growing these unusual plants. Fruiting Habits: The flowers give rise to a tomato like red hip which ranges in size from 1/2 to 1 1/2 in diameter. Heavy fruiting usually begins the second year after establishment. The fruit is edible raw and supposed to be fairly good. It is rich in C vitamin and can be used in jellies and preserves. Propagation: For optimum nursery production, standard raised bed propagation techniques can be utilized. After soil temperatures reach the 40s in fall, but before dropping into the 30s, apply a maximum of +3 PLS grams of seed per square foot area of bed to attain adequate production of quality seedlings. For the over-winter period, these beds should be mulched. Time released fertilizers, applied in late spring, have yielded the best growth results under nursery environments. Hardwood cuttings harvested during the dormant season, placed in a heated bench, work well to start rooted cuttings. I don't think I will have any problem growing these plants, or propagating them for that matter. I simply don't want to loose a year doing propagation
CS(Fwd) RE: CSThe water debate
Consider Saline Solution. a 1% saline solution, dissolve 1 g salt in 99 mL water. Different % can be made. Although water is not identified it is understood to be pure medically and scientifically speaking you want WATER to be 99.99% purity. That is the benchmark. That means almost universally that water is distilled which simply means as pure as pure can be. A saline solution stabilizes the body in an emergency such as blood loss. Water affects the blood volume as it does celleur contents. The affect on blood can be immediate and on celleur structure insidious. Water affects the pH systems of the body. the pH of urine, sweat, lymph, stomach, intestines, blood , different cells, are all different. To what degree of affect there is, is dependent upon the degree of purity of water in a specific encounter. What is needed for you - a specific unique individual may be different. But without a benchmark no one IMO, would be able to determine anything. The effectiveness of what goes in as well as that which comes out can only be determined when all the variables are know. CS can be determined to be effective because there is only silver and distilled water. Of course the effectiveness may be due solely to distilled water ! More than not it is probably due to the combination of the two. (or three: hydrogen oxygen, silver; as specific electrical charge (s) ) two studies that may highlight differences of water. Remember most bottled water contents unspecified amounts of salt and pure water Induced sputum: comparison between isotonic and hypertonic saline solution inhalation in patients with asthma. isotonic saline solution (0.9%) inhalation as a means to induce sputum by comparing it to hypertonic saline solution (4.5%) inhalation.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd =Retrievedb =Pub Meddopt=Abstractlist_uids=11742907 Wound Irrigation in Children: Tap Water or Saline Solution? http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040101/tips/17.html A total of 14 wound infections were equally divided between patients in the two groups, with no differences based on the method of repair. There was, however, a significantly increased risk of infection in foot wounds irrigated with tap water. The authors conclude that tap water might be as effective in preventing bacterial infection as sterile normal saline solution for simple wounds in children. The overall wound infection rate was 2.9 percent, which is comparable with other studies. There is an assumption that tap water is free of any significant pathogenic bacterial counts. Other potential advantages of tap water irrigation include the following: (1) decreased cost, (2) ready availability, (3) reduction in biohazard risk to health care workers, and (4) decreased patient anxiety because of the absence of a syringe from the procedure. The increased risk of foot infections in the group irrigated with tap water has uncertain significance and might not persist in a larger trial. Water, is our lifeblood. Opt for clean rivers, streams and oceans. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Are you saying that distilled water is better to drink as a rule, than ordinary filtered water? If this is so, then I could see why distilled H20 with CS would be able to get to the source more efficiently. Sally -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
