Re: CS>ADHD
Excellent! I can definitely appreciate it. Thank you, -Raine Ode Coyote wrote: Licking windshields looks stupid So does tapping ones forehead. Now, just how wound up am I in appearing to be intelligent? Is it enough to stuff up my nose? ... time to study on non defensive additudes and go ahead and 'be' the idiotic nut that I am. Ode
Re: CS>CS and H2O2
> >> but only if the CS is very fresh. >> In day or 2 old CS, the HP does nothing noticeable unless it's yellow. > >In that case, what is the conductivity? After two days, is it still 20 uS, 5 >uS, or somthing else? Does the conductivity not drop at all when H2O2 is added? ## The conductivity drops without adding HP as well, but not nearly as much and it takes 24 hrs or so. If I remember right, conductivity doesn't change significantly upon adding HP after that..it might go up a little if the HP is conductive. [I just don't remember what happens exactly but it's apparently not an eye opening gee whiz change or I'd remember it] > >> >> If it's yellow, it goes clear. >> If yellow CS is left in a clear container for a long time, the container >> turns yellow and the CS goes clear. > >Once again, the conductivity does not change? ## Again, I don't recall. If it were a big difference, I would, I should think. I 'think' I remember noting that in both cases, the conductivity rose just a 'touch' and I attributed that to the addition of the HPs conductivity. I haven't measured that in years. If all the HP is doing is splitting bigguns into littleuns, I wouldn't expect conductivity to change. If the particles are already littluns, the HP shouldn't change them visably. That's what appeared to be happening, so I just let it go at that. Adding HP to freshly made EIS is something much more recent. When someone did it just a few months ago and wondered what that explosion of activity was, I had no clue what she was talking about. Huh? What explosion? OH! THAT explosion! WOW! [That might change everything] Ode > >Marshall > >> >> HP instantly removes that yellow coating. >> Ode > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005
Re: CS>Absorption of silver particles in the lungs
At 11:07 AM 4/29/2005 -0400, you wrote: > >Ode Coyote wrote: > >> Even then..from following links on Rosemarys 'old' site, links now >> missing...the rate of argyria in silver workers is 1 in 2000. ie: they >> tried to find some cases to study, looked in the most likely place to find >> some and had a really hard time. > >Could be genetic, or only a small number of the workers got exposed to uv light >shortly after inhaling (tanning beds?). ## Inhaled silver dust takes something like 30 days to be excreted, if the particles are small. If they are big, I suppose many would be coughed up. I would expect the dust to be a mix. I would expect a miner to see sunlight at least once a month. >> There was one researcher that expressed extreme frustration in trying to >> induce arygria in animals so he could study it. > >Wonder what he did? Maybe he did not realize that he needed to expose them to >uv light to trigger the initial photoreduction, or they had fur that blocked >light. ## He injected the animals with mega doses of silver citrate and other compounds at near lethal levels. Part of the study was about seeing if any tumors developed. Small benign tumors developed at some of the injection sites. To NOT know the role of UV light would be completely idiotic. At least this guy had enough intelligence to know and admit he was having trouble which generally leads to finding out why. I don't remember what he found out. That 'might' be where the selenium connection came from. I vaguely remember that link going to an EPA site and a collection of studies with "Colloidal Silver" on the cover page...with absolutely no mention of "colloidal silver" in any of the studies. Looking for link Humm, it's still an active link but the info has been watered down into a Readers Digest form over the past 4 or 5 years. It used to be a whole bunch of pages with every detail included. http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0099.htm#I.A. Ode > >Marshall > >> >> [the same report?] >> Ode >> >> At 02:11 PM 4/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: >> > >> >I think I may have finally figured out how one can get argyria when >> >breathing in silver dust, and how silver dust ends up being eliminated >> >by the body via the kidneys despite the large particle size. >> > >> >I have puzzled how silver particles, too large to be absorbed, end up >> >causing argyria or being eliminated by the kidneys. for people like >> >silver mine workers. >> > >> >There are two possibilities: >> > >> >1. If the cells of the lungs are deprived of oxygen causing hypoxia >> >(Hypoxia mean low in oxygen), then the Mitochondrial release of H2O2 is >> >extracellular. >> >See >> >http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/109905841/ABSTRACT >> > >> >2. The silver acts as an oxidizing catalyst causing hyperoxia of the >> >cells (hyperoxia means too much oxygen), which interestingly enough also >> >causes cells to produce H2O2. >> >http://www.clinicalobgyn.com/pt/re/clnobgyn/abstract.3081-200309000-000 >> 17.htm;jsessionid=CxnsZEjxsFPeZcdMg2S2T1QlRcqHtJp11yVi25MHcYrMRxHePXHQ!21124 >> 22791!-949856031!9001!-1 >> > >> >Hyperoxia increases H2O2 release by lung mitochondria and microsomes >> > >> >My hypothesis is that a silver particle covers one or more cells. These >> >cells are cut off from oxygen (or over oxygenated) and begin expelling >> >H2O2. The hydrogen peroxide then reacts with the silver producing >> >silver oxide which is immediately absorbed into the blood and becomes >> >silver chloride. Since the particles of silver breathed in are too >> >large to get into the blood stream directly, there is nothing for the >> >silver chloride to plate out on, until it is either expelled by the >> >kidneys, or exposed to light in the skin and photoreduced. Once that >> >happens more can plate out on those particles causing argyria. >> > >> >Marshall >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > >> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> > >> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> > >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 >> > >> > >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release
CS>Re: Connecting 30 April
Hi There Ode - I would like to contact you off list so would you give me your e-mail address - thanks - my address is oha...@juno.com Sandee "The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>scam
It is very real. A friend of mine sold a set of snowmobiles. The cashiers check she got was fake. No, she hadn't sent off the snowmobile (they never want the goods) but she was out the full amount of the cashiers check when it was discovered the check was fake. Lori _ From: S Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>scam If you want to read something funny about scammers, go to: www.bustedupcowgirl.com . One woman's story about how she dealt with them when they claimed to want to buy her horses. Sally
Re: CS>Re: Connecting 30 April
odecoy...@alltel.net ..it generally appears at the top of all list messages. Yours did Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:47:45 -0300 X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Sandee George Ode At 08:47 AM 4/30/2005 -0300, you wrote: > >Hi There Ode - I would like to contact you off list so would you give me >your e-mail address - thanks - my address is oha...@juno.com >Sandee > >"The one who accomplished it is the one >who failed to realize that he could not do it." > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005
CS>funny!!
Dear Nancy, just thought you`d like this too! Love, Marshalee **SENIOR DRESS CODE** Many "Old Folks" (those over 60, WAY over 60, or hovering near 60) are quite confused about how they should present ourselves. They're unsure about the kind of image they are projecting and whether or not they are correct as they try to conform to current fashions. Despite what you may have seen on the streets, the following combinations DO NOT go together and should be avoided: 1. A nose ring and bifocals 2. Spiked hair and bald spots 3. A pierced tongue and dentures 4. Miniskirts and support hose 5. Ankle bracelets and corn pads 6. Speedo's and cellulite 7. A belly button ring and a gall bladder surgery scar 8. Unbuttoned disco shirts and a heart monitor 9. Midriff shirts and a midriff bulge 10. Bikinis and liver spots 11. Sh ort shorts and varicose veins 12. Inline skates and a walker And last, but not least . . my personal favorite: 13. Thongs and Depends Please keep these basic guidelines foremost in your mind when you shop. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>lyme and cs
Sorry, thought I was sending that last email to Nancy, but it is funny for all! Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection
> Mike, I made a 3x4" pad to place at the rear (tailbone), and a "donut" > pad at the front. > The donut pad was made from aluminum foil, with a wire attached, and > covered with towel cloth, 2-3 layers. > If someone wants to try the cheap method, just hook up a 6 volt (NO > MORE) to the wires, or even 4- 1.5 volts. > My problem was resolved in about 2, 1 hour treatments. Thanks, altogethernow. I thought that if you put the teaser out there, people ought to know the gist of how you did it. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection
Mike, I made a 3x4" pad to place at the rear (tailbone), and a "donut" pad at the front. The donut pad was made from aluminum foil, with a wire attached, and covered with towel cloth, 2-3 layers. If someone wants to try the cheap method, just hook up a 6 volt (NO MORE) to the wires, or even 4- 1.5 volts. My problem was resolved in about 2, 1 hour treatments. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection
How can I contact V to order a unit? Thanks, Sarah - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: RE: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection I effectively treated my problem of too frequent urination (getting up several times at night, and multiple times during the day) with only a couple treatments of electricity - the device used was/is the one at microelectricitygermkiller at yahoogroups. You would find the details in the files, and you can make a simple device in 1/2 hr, or buy an excellent metered one from V. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour