CS>A Request

2005-05-04 Thread Raine

Hi all,

Lately I've been having trouble following some threads because the 
authors aren't including any of the previous post.
I humbly request that my fellow list-mates give a girl a heads up so I 
can better understand their responses. :-)


Thanks so much, and you guys are the greatest!
-Raine


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CS>Re[2]: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread V
Hi Grace1way,

Yeah its real esay to make it yourself fresh and ingest lots of Vit C that way .

Here is how to make your own sodium ascorbate.

1 level measuring teaspoon of Vitamin C in a glass (4 grams)
now add 1/2 level measuring teaspoon of baking soda
now add about 1 inch of water over it and it will fizz like crazy.
When it is done fizzing then fill the glass the rest of the way with water and 
its ready to drink. dosent have much taste so its easy to take.

Yuo can get a 1 pound can of pure Vit C at Trader Joes for about 10 bucks

Take care,
 V


> I didn't know there was such a thing as SODIUM ASCORBATE.  Thank you.

> Jill


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RE: CS>esterC

2005-05-04 Thread Louise
Actually it is a patented type of Calcium ascorbate and you can buy it with
out the patented ester C label.
 
Louise


  _  

From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>esterC


Ester C is a brand of ascorbate. If you want to pay Larry King promotional
fees go ahead otherwise buy generic sodium ascorbate. There is magnesium
ascorbate but is more difficult to get.



CS>esterC

2005-05-04 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Ester C is a brand of ascorbate. If you want to pay Larry King promotional fees 
go ahead otherwise buy generic sodium ascorbate. There is magnesium ascorbate 
but is more difficult to get.

CS>ascorbate

2005-05-04 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Mixing the corresponding hydroxides with the acids is an acceptable form of 
producing salts such as the ascorbates. One must be careful to mix equimol 
amounts so not to overshoot either ingredient. If you use too much alkali 
(hydroxide) you'll end up with a very high pH product that may harm you. It is 
best if you buy the sfuff in any health food store.

CS>UTI

2005-05-04 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
As I said, the best way to get Mannose is by taking two-three tablespoons of 
Xylitol a day It is sweet and has very los glycemic value. If you can't take 
Xylitol, you can get Mannose in many sites in the web. Is a sugar with a higher 
glycemic value and will affect your blood sugar levels in a  somewhat greater 
degree than Xylitol.
Sodium ascorbate is gentler in the stomach than ascobic acid and it'll not 
acidify your tissues as the acid does.
You need to take a slightly greater amount of the ascorbate to equate the 
ascorbic but it is worth it. However, for some unknown reason, the ascorbate is 
not as effective for the immune system as the ascorbic is. 

RE: CS>Lyme disease

2005-05-04 Thread Joni Lovegrove

Thanks



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Lyme disease
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:40:56 -0600

Dear Joni,
It is actually "Lyme" Disease; it doesn`t own anything. Named after the town 
of Lyme, CT.
 I`m so glad you got a proper diagnosis. I hope CS helps you as well as it 
did me!!

Good luck,
Marshalee

I can relate to your situation, I was misdiagnosed with MS and now find out 
I have advanced Lyme's disease.




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CS>Lyme disease

2005-05-04 Thread Marshalee

Dear Joni,
It is actually "Lyme" Disease; it doesn`t own anything. Named after the 
town of Lyme, CT.
 I`m so glad you got a proper diagnosis. I hope CS helps you as well as 
it did me!!

Good luck,
Marshalee

I can relate to your situation, I was misdiagnosed with MS and now 
find out I have advanced Lyme's disease.  




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RE: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread Joni Lovegrove
I can relate to your situation, I was misdiagnosed with MS and now find out 
I have advanced Lyme's disease.  My family doctor sent me to a clinic that 
specializes in treating lyme's (Jemsek clinic) in NC a couple of weeks ago,  
They use high dose intravenous IV antibiotics pulsed with oral antibiotics 
and lots of IV fluids, they have a nutrition department that recommends 
certain supplements, etc.to boost your immune system  and are building a 
decompression chamber (can't think of the name of it.)   Also work with you 
on the (hirks0 reactions and monitor liver and kidney function very closely.


I also have central nervous system damage along with the many other symptoms 
and condtions that develop with untreated lyme's.


I am waiting to see what others on this list say about CS and treatment of 
lyme's, I am definitely going to consider other options  before starting 
such an aggressive treatment.  Also (to any of you out there), will CS help 
with the yeast problem that develops with lots of antibiotic use and what 
are the interactions, if any, with CS and IV and oral intibiotics?


Borrelia burgdorferi is very hard to treat.  Since spirochetes in general 
are difficult to treat for several reasons; they have the ability to burrow 
into or between cells and hide, gaining protection from the immune system.  
It is also hard to get a positive reading on a test because of this, the 
immune system is so shot at this point that is very important to get your 
tests done at a lab that specializes in recognizing borrelia burgdorferi Bb. 
 My first two tests came back negative.  The probability of co-infections 
is extremely high wth tick born diseases.


I guess you know, this bug eventually hits all of your systems and can mimic 
many other condtions.


Good luck, I am still making decisions on my treatment and also open to any 
suggestions.


joni




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:05:54 EDT

Hello Group,

I am trying to rid myself of borrelia burgdorferi and would appreciate any
input on how to accomplish it. Long term antibiotics seemed to have had 
little

or no effect. This has really taken a toll on me and in turn on my family as
well. I have a Silverpuppy generator. Any advice is welcome.

Thanks,
Dana



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Re: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread william meyer

well,
the basic deal is the silver-puppy works great. do the silver on an 
empty stomach.

twice a day around two ounces is my recommendation.
numbers of rife machines are proven performers for lyme.
some of the ones i know are the "doug" coil, the "b3 with amp", and the 
emem3d.
i have used the emem3d with success. i am not cured, but i hear it may 
take years.

many lymies buy multiple machines in their quest.
these things work!. i promise it.
so does colloidal silver.

On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, at 04:05 PM, fl...@aol.com wrote:


Hello Group,
 
I am trying to rid myself of borrelia burgdorferi and would appreciate 
any input on how to accomplish it. Long term antibiotics seemed to have 
had little or no effect. This has really taken a toll on me and in turn 
on my family as well. I have a Silverpuppy generator. Any advice is 
welcome.

 
Thanks,
Dana


Re: CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose re:VITA. C

2005-05-04 Thread David S Osborne
PLEASE TRY  ESTER-C IF YOU HURRY YOU CAN GET IN
ON PURITANS PRIDE  3 FOR 1 SALE.   Their prod #  2263

When I need em, I take em by the handful=  NO PROBLEM
davido

Re: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread Marshalee

CS got rid of my Lyme Disease, nine years ago this month.
6 years of doxy couldn`t do the job.
Marshalee

/Borrelia burgdorferi/ is a spirochete which is the causative agent of 
Lyme disease. It has invaded my central nervous system. Antibiotics is 
the only treatment I've tried.
 
Dana




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Re: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread Flbpf
 
In a message dated 5/4/2005 3:23:31 PM Central Standard Time,  
grace1...@aol.com writes:

Could you tell us what this condition (or microbe) is, and how does  it 
manifest in you?
What do you know about it, and what have you tried so far?
 
Jill



Borrelia burgdorferi is a spirochete which is the causative agent  of Lyme 
disease. It has invaded my central nervous system. Antibiotics is the  only 
treatment I've tried.
 
Dana


Re: CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
Could you tell us what this condition (or microbe) is, and how does it 
manifest in you?
What do you know about it, and what have you tried so far?

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
You are a living knowledge box!  Thanks for the information!

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
grace1...@aol.com wrote:

>  By the way, is there such a thing as potassium ascorbate,
>
> Mix potassium hydroxide with ascorbic acid and that is what you will
> get.
>
> or magnesium ascorbate?
>
>
> Not sure about that one.  But calcium ascorbate should be possible.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
>
> This may be a stupid question, but if there were such a thing, one
> would get even better health results from it. Jill


CS>Need advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi

2005-05-04 Thread Flbpf
Hello Group,
 
I am trying to rid myself of borrelia burgdorferi and would appreciate any  
input on how to accomplish it. Long term antibiotics seemed to have had little  
or no effect. This has really taken a toll on me and in turn on my family as  
well. I have a Silverpuppy generator. Any advice is welcome.
 
Thanks,
Dana


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread sol
Unless the person using them did not need the extra potassium or 
magnesium. In which case effects could be negative.

sol

grace1...@aol.com wrote:

By the way, is there such a thing as potassium ascorbate, or magnesium 
ascorbate?  This may be a stupid question, but if there were such a 
thing, one would get even better health results from it. 
 
Jill


 




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Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
Oooh.  Thanks.

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Acmeair

grace1...@aol.com wrote:

By the way, is there such a thing as potassium ascorbate, or magnesium 
ascorbate?  This may be a stupid question, but if there were such a 
thing, one would get even better health results from it. 
 
Jill


on google.

*Potassium ascorbate:* The minimal requirement for potassium is thought 
to be between 1.6 and 2.0 grams/day. Fruits and vegetables are rich 
sources of potassium, and a diet rich in fruits and vegetables may 
provide as much as 8 to 11 grams/day.  Acute and potentially fatal 
potassium toxicity (hyperkalemia) is thought to occur at a daily intake 
of about 18 grams of potassium/day in adults. Individuals taking 
potassium-sparing diuretics and those with renal insufficiency (kidney 
failure) should avoid significant intake of potassium ascorbate. The 
purest form of commercially available potassium ascorbate contains 0.175 
grams (175 mg) of potassium per gram of ascorbic acid (see Potassium 
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Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
This information is worth its weight in gold.  Thanks.

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
By the way, is there such a thing as potassium ascorbate, or magnesium 
ascorbate?  This may be a stupid question, but if there were such a thing, one 
would 
get even better health results from it.  

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Raine
Here's how to make your own Sodium Ascorbate from Dr. Judd. 
http://www.gerardjudd.com/goodteeth.htm


Vitamin C powder at Trader Joes is $9.99/lb.  Put 1 level tsp (4 g) in a 
glass, add 1/2 tsp Arm and Hammer baking soda, add 1 inch of water, let 
fizz, dilute to 8 oz and drink.  The compound made here is fresh sodium 
ascorbate.  This is about 1000 x as soluble as C, and is more reactive 
towards antibody and connective tissue construction and viral 
destruction.  Thus the gums knit back to the teeth, avoiding any kind of 
oral surgery for "receding gums."  Receding gums are nothing but gum 
pockets caused by toothpaste and especially fluoride, which severs all 
proteins because of its highly negative character.  Fluoride is the 
smallest negative ion on earth, and consequently is the most intensely 
negative particle on earth.  As such, fluoride breaks the positive 
hydrogen bonds, which hold the coils together, in proteins and enzymes.


-Raine

grace1...@aol.com wrote:


I didn't know there was such a thing as SODIUM ASCORBATE.  Thank you.
 
Jill




Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
Thank you for your expertise.  I wish I had paid more attention in chemistry 
class.

Jill


Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
If you react any acid with sodium hydroxide you will produce the sodium
salt of that acid, such as sulfuric acid will produce sodium sulfate,
hydrochloric acid will produce sodium chloride  (plain table salt), and
ascorbic acid will produce sodium ascorbate.

Marshall

grace1...@aol.com wrote:

>  I didn't know there was such a thing as SODIUM ASCORBATE.  Thank
> you. Jill


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Re: CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
I didn't know there was such a thing as SODIUM ASCORBATE.  Thank you.

Jill


Re: CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose

2005-05-04 Thread Grace1way
You're so right about the acid foods.  After I got rid of the bacteria, I 
took a vitamin C tablet, and that brought the burning right back.  Now I'm 
trying 
to get rid of the effects of the acid.

The vitamin C tablet I found after much collecting of different products, and 
muscle testing, is exactly the one you mentioned--buffered with calcium 
ascorbate.  It is time-release as well.  

You can get the 50 mg. containers of D-mannose from the Tahoma Clinic 
Dispensary (1-888-893-6878), www.tahoma-clinic.com.  There are several other 
sources, 
but last time I checked this was the least expensive.

I have a wonderful booklet on the use of D-Mannose for bladder infections.  I 
think I ordered it from the Tahoma Clinic as well.  The title is D-MANNOSE & 
BLADDER INFECTION, by Jonathan Wright, M.D. and Lane Lenard, Ph.D.

Jill


RE: CS>Immune system and CS strength

2005-05-04 Thread lkfields
Thank you Ode!!  My friend *does* indeed use salt to make his CS. 

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
##  I 'think' that VERY fresh CS might be 'more' potent, but that's a matter
of several hours.
 Otherwise, I have yet to find a shelf life even in samples stored in clear
glass on a sunny window sill for several years.
 CS made only with distilled water and pure silver is NOT light sensitive.
 CS made with salt or baking soda IS light sensitive.

 



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CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose

2005-05-04 Thread Dan Nave
A woman I know had a problem with bladder/urinary burning, urgent need
to go NOW!, pain, slight incontinence, etc.  She was able to determine
by paying close attention to what she was eating, that it was caused by
orange juice, cranberry juice, juices fortified with vitamin C, etc.  

While I don't know the reason for the problem, it appears that
something about the acidity of these foods/drinks caused the urinary
infection-like symptoms...

Staying away from these acidic foods/juices has caused her problem to
go away.





CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose

From: J&S Campbell wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:19:40 



Hi Grace,
Thanks for the info on mannose helping with UTI. Can you please tell
me where you buy the container of mannose from?
I wondered if you had tried calcium ascorbate and if that form might
be any better for you, no -acidic and less harsh on the guts but more
expensive than ascorbic acid.
BW
Sheila
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 11:09:27 PM, you wrote:
Gac> Yes, this works wonderfully for infections caused by E-coli, but
not other
Gac> pathogens.  It apparently inhibits the bacteria from attaching to
the bladder
Gac> mucous membrane, and they are flushed out of the system.  

Gac> I have a better source than health food stores for this, if
anybody wants to
Gac> know.  I order ten containers at a time--50 grams.  The suggested
use on the
Gac> container is 1 tsp. every two hours in water.  When using the
capsules (that's
Gac> all I have seen in health food stores), you would go through an
expensive
Gac> bottle in no time.  With this container, you are set for about 14
days.

Gac> The infection I have (had?) was not caused by E-coli.  I tried
d-mannose
Gac> first, and it didn't work. 

Gac> So far, the only thing that has curbed the infection (but not yet
the burning
Gac> symptom) has been an NAET treatment for (who would have guessed)
parasites.
Gac> I guess Proteus mirabilis is a parasite!

Gac> Jill 




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CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose

2005-05-04 Thread J&S Campbell
Hi Grace,
Thanks for the info on mannose helping with UTI. Can you please tell
me where you buy the container of mannose from?
I wondered if you had tried calcium ascorbate and if that form might
be any better for you, no -acidic and less harsh on the guts but more
expensive than ascorbic acid.
BW
Sheila
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 11:09:27 PM, you wrote:
Gac> Yes, this works wonderfully for infections caused by E-coli, but not other
Gac> pathogens.  It apparently inhibits the bacteria from attaching to the 
bladder
Gac> mucous membrane, and they are flushed out of the system.  

Gac> I have a better source than health food stores for this, if anybody wants 
to
Gac> know.  I order ten containers at a time--50 grams.  The suggested use on 
the
Gac> container is 1 tsp. every two hours in water.  When using the capsules 
(that's
Gac> all I have seen in health food stores), you would go through an expensive
Gac> bottle in no time.  With this container, you are set for about 14 days.

Gac> The infection I have (had?) was not caused by E-coli.  I tried d-mannose
Gac> first, and it didn't work. 

Gac> So far, the only thing that has curbed the infection (but not yet the 
burning
Gac> symptom) has been an NAET treatment for (who would have guessed) parasites.
Gac> I guess Proteus mirabilis is a parasite!

Gac> Jill 


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Re: CS>Absorption of silver particles in the lungs

2005-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
Thanks, that helps. It is always nice to know that others have reached
the same conclusion, or get some outside support for a theory.

Marshall

alchemysa wrote:

>
>
> I have often seen referencs to argyria and the 'the sun' in medical, and 
> other reports about argyria or siver toxicity.
> Heres just one example from a google search on argyria/photographic.
>
> "In argyria, silver deposited in the body reacts with
> the sun through a process similar to that of the development of a photographic
> negative. This leads to permanent discoloration of the skin."
>
> http://www.rense.com/general12/blueasdf.htm
>
> David
>
>* From: Marshall Dudley (view other messages by this author)
>* Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:08:32
>
> ---
>
> Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> > ##  I don't recall any mention of using UV light one way or the other, but
> > since agyria is well known to be a photographic process, I can't imagine
> > that a frustrated researcher with an agenda wouldn't figure that out.
>
> Where else have you seen it? I have never seen argyria referred to as a
> photographic process except by me in this group or papers I have written, and
> others in this group.  Do other researchers share this view?  Do you have any
> urls?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
>


Re: CS>Absorption of silver particles in the lungs

2005-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote
  I've seen it here and there, [no specific URLs] but you're right, it's
not mentioned a lot and never have I seen in the detail that's covered here.
Ode

At 10:04 AM 5/3/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>> ##  I don't recall any mention of using UV light one way or the other, but
>> since agyria is well known to be a photographic process, I can't imagine
>> that a frustrated researcher with an agenda wouldn't figure that out.
>
>Where else have you seen it? I have never seen argyria referred to as a
>photographic process except by me in this group or papers I have written, and
>others in this group.  Do other researchers share this view?  Do you have any
>urls?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marshall
>
>>
>>
>> Ode
>> >
>> >So, they did not use uv light in the protocl?
>> >
>> >>
>> >>  To NOT know the role of UV light would be completely idiotic.
>> >
>> >Now I am confused, did they know/use uv light or not?  The question is if
>> he used
>> >UV light, the protocol you gave above does not indicate any use of UV
light.
>> >
>> >Marshall
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CS>vit c

2005-05-04 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Most vitamin is produced from fermenting corn. If you are allergic to corn, try 
vitamin C from Acerola. 

CS>Vitamin C

2005-05-04 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Have you tried non-acidic vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate?