Re: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what? Silver Godzilla, coconut oil

[Rowena]

Pete, microelectricitygermkiller had a mention of a certain V who used some 
silver as an electrode in a Godzilla type device with some success.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

Also people have been praising virgin coconut oil on 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/coconut_oil_open_forum/ in relation to 
acne.

Rowena 


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Re: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?

[Dennis Gulenchin]

Pete,
There was mention of a zit zapper on one of the TV stations on 6:00pm 
news but I missed the bulk of the story, try
Zeno Acne, Zit Zapper, Pimple, Device, Review, Discount, Clearing, 
Machine 


Dennis.

panamp...@aol.com wrote:

Well list, I am back again with a request for my 21yr old's Acne.  
We(she) had tried "ProActive" for several months which worked for 
awhile but then stopped.  The doctor
then put her on, "Tetracycline" which helped a little, but started to 
turn her forehead a
yellowish shade.  Since then she has tried nearly all the OTC products 
including some
that are treated orally and with creams to the face.  Yes, she did try 
"EIS"(misting on
her face), but didn't get in to drinking much of it.  She is going 
back on New Year's Day
to Kansas City Art Institute to finish her junior year but is still 
covered with acne.  I
think she felt better after having seen my "Cansema nose" which does 
still look like a
bad case of acne.  The acne seems to lower her "self-esteem" as she 
is always hesitant
on going shopping, thinking people are looking at her.  I will try 
anything to help her, as
she is truly a pretty girl and full of life!   I am open to most any 
suggestions, hoping that
maybe something new has come around since last addressing this 
issue.Pete

Re: CS>EIS and H2O2

[Tony Moody]

Hi Marshall,
Is there any chance that one batch was contaminated with soap or something like 
that?
Tony

On 29 Dec 2005 at 19:44, Marshall Dudley wrote about :
Subject : CS>EIS and H2O2

> OK, I am totally buffaloed now.  I have made two 5 gallon batches and
> added H2O2 to them. Everything is as close to identical between them as I
> can get, but the reactions were totally different.
> 
> Batches were produced as follows:
> 
> Initial pH of water = 6.8
> electrode area = 48 square inches each .999 silver plates
> current = 38 mA
> voltage ran typically 15-16 volts during making it
> continuous stirring, and polarity reversal at one minute per half cycle.
> Silver content estimate from conductivity measurements 20 ppm
> both were crystal clear, and measured 16.5 uS.
> both batches made at about 62 degrees F.
> tyndall was faint
> did not measure pH before adding H2O2
> 
> Added .5 teaspoon H2O2 per gallon, IE 2.5 teaspoons of 3% to 5 gallons to
> give 17 ppm
> First batch tyndall stayed faint, maybe even became fainter -
> conductivity measured 16 uS essentially unchanged
> Second batch tyndall became strong, EIS has a slightly cloudy look, but
> no color, conductivity 9.5 uS approximately halved.
> Both batches measure a pH of about 7.6 after adding H2O2.  Adding H2O2 to
> distilled water gives a pH of 6.8 unchanged from plain DW.
> 
> Taking samples of the second batch I did the following:
> 
> Heated it, cloudiness and tyndall stayed the same, indicating that it was
> no silver chloride or silver oxide precipitant since the solution limit
> goes up when you heat it.
> Diluted it by 50%, tyndall approximately halved, indicating once again
> that the cloudiness is NOT a silver compound with limited solubility
> Added another 50 or so ppm of H2O2, no change. Added 500 or more ppm of
> H2O2 and it cleared up. I have no idea what that means.
> Added ammonia (ammonium hydroxide), tyndall did not change, proving that
> the cloudyness is from colloidal particles not from any molecular
> compounds of silver precipitated.
> Checked for color, none noted, meaning that the particle size is either
> very small, so the absorption is in the uv range, or very big so the
> absorption is in the infrared range. Strong tyndall implies large
> particles though. Will let sit for 24 hours and see if anything
> precipitates out, if we have large particles I expect to see it clear
> upon sitting.
> 
> I am making another batch now.  Before adding the H2O2 to the entire
> batch, I plan on adding it to a few ounce a drop at a time and try to
> figure out some more if the 3rd batch clouds up.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?

[starshar]

From: 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:58 PM

Since she's going to be away at school, compliance with a full nutritional 
program might be difficult for her. Since I raised 2 daughters, I'm aware of 
the reality of campus life/eating---tough for good health programs! My son, 
also, was prone to acne but he cut almost all sugar out of his diet and his 
skin cleared beautifully by his late teens.


In addition to EIS, at the very *least*, why not equip her with a good 
supply of probiotics that do not need refrigeration? "Culturelle" is one; 
another is made by Enzymatic Therapy. (iherb.com might have the best 
prices). Both products are said to bypass gastic acidity and get released in 
the intestinal tract where they're needed.
For many years, good reports on skin problems have come from persistent 
probiotic users.

Of course, if she is a sweets eater almost nothing will be effective.

There are many other ways to treat acne, but if 'simplicity' is needed for 
now this is a good place to start.


I wish your daughter pretty skin!

Sharon


Well list, I am back again with a request for my 21yr old's  Acne. 
We(she)

had tried "ProActive" for several months which worked  for awhile but then
stopped.  The doctor
then put her on, "Tetracycline" which helped a little, but started to 
turn

her forehead a
yellowish shade.  Since then she has tried nearly all the OTC  products
including some
that are treated orally and with creams to the face.  Yes, she  did try
"EIS"(misting on
her face), but didn't get in to drinking much of it.  She is  going back 
on

New Year's Day
to Kansas City Art Institute to finish her junior year but is still 
covered
with acne. 



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Re: CS>to pete-acne

[sol]

http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/guesswho.htm
This article may be helpful.
The only person I've known with really extremely severe acne was/is a 
very heavy consumer of dairy products.

sol



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Re: CS>Re: CS yellow CS

[sol]

I think it could be the heated DW which is the trouble. Wonder also what 
you heat the DW in? could it be picking up contamination from whatever 
container you heat it in? Is there some reason you need to make your CS 
that fast?
For what its worth I never scrub my electrodes, it's a waste of silver. 
I just wipe them off with a white paper napkin or paper towel, or even 
plain toilet tissue.

sol

Pat wrote:

.  Does anyone here heat the distilled water to almost boiling first?  
I was told to do that by the guy who first told me about CS and he's 
been making it about 8 years I think.  It sure does make it finish faster.



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CS>concentrace to terry

[Betsy Coffey]

Is it harmful to take a mineral supplement(not a mega
dose just basic minerals) in addition to concentrace?
Arent the minerals in concentrace just in very small doses?



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CS>Re CS>Yellow/brown CS

[Harold MacDonald]

Since I bought a good distiller,and double distill tap water,I find it just 
about impossible to get yellow ,brown or any  sediment.When I was buying DW 
from the store,I had to watch it like a hawk as it would run away and go yellow 
or brown with plating on the inside of the jar.I always had to filter it as 
there were floaters,etc.Now,I can go away;[it runs at 1ma of current];for 
hours, except for an occasional check to clean the silver coins,and reverse the 
polarity .
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CS>to pete-acne

[Betsy Coffey]

My neice that has had a skin problem has had success
with eliminating diary,yeast products,sugar and other
offending foods. She tried pro active to no avail .
Vitamin A(fish oil) is very good for acne also. If a
topical is needed,sometimes a prescription called
metro gel is helpful and it doesnt affect a person
adversly like an antibiotic taken orally which only
covers up the problem. Severe acne can sometimes be
caused from a hormonal imbalance.




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CS>to Ross-high blood pressure

[Betsy Coffey]

Have you tried magnesium supplements to lower your
blood pressure?



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Re: CS>Re: CS yellow CS

[Pat]

Yes, I filtered the gray batch, but it was still  gray for a few days before it 
got more yellow. The instructions that  came with the machine said to filter in 
5natural colored filters put  together I think.  When you make CS in a gallon 
jar, do you use  much longer or wider silver bars?  Seems it would take many 
times  longer if you do it in a gallon jar and I do it in a quart jar.   Does 
anyone here heat the distilled water to almost boiling  first?  I was told to 
do that by the guy who first told me about  CS and he's been making it about 8 
years I think.  It sure does  make it finish faster.
  

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Re: CS>Concentrace and digestion/regularity

[twll56]

I just ordered some off of Ebay.
This stuff seems to be popular in Europe & Australia.
There are some Ebay sellers from the UK selling it.
There are websites in UK & Australia selling it.
I bought mine from a Ebayer in Minn.
Have you looked into the Concentrace with the added vitamins ?


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CS>Silver Sludge Experiment

[Jonathan B. Britten]

List,

Several times I have wondered about making EIS using tap water, not 
that I need to do it -- I can get distilled water easily -- but because 
I can imagine needing to do so while traveling or in some emergency 
situation.


Just playing around, here is some information I came up with:

Making EIS using plain tap water and an old Robey device (uncontrolled 
current, auto shutoff),  I set the device at the highest setting of 80 
ppm.   The setting has little correspondence with measured results 
(provided by Ode or Marshall long ago), but I wanted to make sludge, so 
I set it at 80.


Very visible clouds of gray silver compounds come off the silver bar.  
(Cathode?)  The other electrode is stainless steel.


The silver compounds flow to the bottom of the jar, then rise to create 
a very cloudy, gray brew.   However. . . .


Letting the jar sit for 24 hours, I found that the compounds -- silver 
salts I understand -- not only fall to the bottom, but soon form a hard 
crust there, making decanting a simple matter.


The decanted product exhibits a moderate TE, with only a few 
"sparklies."In appearance and taste, it is not dissimilar to a 
quality EIS made by an SG6 using distilled water.


I did not check using a PWT meter as the batteries are dead.

I have no equipment or training to conduct more elaborate tests to 
determine what might remain in the water as non-silver ions.Experts 
on the list might know.


My idea was just to see what would happen, and how much benefit there 
would be in letting this inherently inferior product sit on a shelf for 
a while.   My hunch is that you can come up with a reasonably safe 
product.


If so, the smart move while traveling without access to distilled 
water, would be to make up some EIS using tap water as soon as you can, 
then put it aside for as long as you can.


I stand ready to be informed otherwise by those with a background in 
physical chemistry.


Hope this is useful to someone someday.

JBB



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Re: CS>Re: CS yellow CS

[ddarrin]

Did you filter the batch that became yellow before it turned yellow ? 
Most of us don't filter as we don't know what the filter material 
contains. I use a gallon Ice tea jar with a spigot on the side so it is 
easy to decant . I fill  three one quart  canning jars  and leave the 
rest in the gallon jar for starter. I leave it on over night and it is 
usually done by morning.

Dave

Pat wrote:

I've always had my Colloid Master switch set to standard.  I rinse my 
quart jars over and over and then rinse them again with distilled 
water.  I scrub the silver wires and rinse them with distilled water 
too.  Some batches I heat distilled water to almost boiling and add a 
little CS before starting it and it only takes about 1 1/2 to 2 hours 
at 5.5.  If I start cold, I still add a little CS, just about a couple 
tablespoons maybe, and it takes many hours, but I end up with the same 
results.  The instructions said to strain it after 3 days in coffee 
filters and I just get a small amount of gray sediment (silver 
oxide?).  That first batch I made at 8 settled out a bit and became 
yellow after several days passed.  Does everyone get the gray sediment 
at the bottom?
&n! bsp;   
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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[twll56]

This site is very anti carbohydrate.Even fiber therapy bad.
http://www.biblelife.org/carbs.htm

Re: CS>re-niacin/cholesterol

[Barbara]

The statins, cholesterol lowering drugs make billions for the pharmaceutical 
companies.  There is no way they would admit that cholesterol scare is a myth.  
In the older women, the higher the cholesterol level (to a certain point) the 
better the body is prepared to fight infections or disease.  I don't know about 
men.  

Barbara



   This is very interesting about cholesterol not being the bad guy.  What 
about all the drugs out now...do studies not show they lower heart attack?  
They sure do think they're wonderful.  That was interesting about bran tooI 
find though that one spoonful a day is enough for regularity and I'm pretty 
certain that the incidence of diverticula and hemorrhoids is reduced with 
enough fiber in the diet.  Maybe some people can eat enough veggies and fruits 
but I've found only bran or Metamucil wafers (yuck) do the trick.  


  Thanks to everyone for your help.  I read all articles you put up links to 
and find them very interesting and informative.

 Pat

Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[Barbara]

I did read all of this and also that the more free medicine in Europe is in 
agreement with Atkins.  They did test studies and confirmed the benefits of his 
diet on so many degenerative diseases that have no cure here in States.   

Barbara




  Some people are unaware that the Atkins diet was not originally designed for 
the purpose of loosing weight. Atkins was experimenting with a diet that would 
treat serious illness, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., that was 
recalcitrant to other treatments.  His famous diet worked outstandingly for 
these patients to return them to health.  The weight loss effect was noted 
later, as a side effect!   Nowadays, people often think that is its only 
purpose, and that benefits of loosing weight must be weighed against (sorry for 
the pun) the disadvantage of following this "unhealthy" diet.

  Jill

Re: CS>EIS and H2O2

[Robert Berger]

I would like to know why the people on this list feel the need to add H2O2 to 
EIS ???
   
  If you make the EIS correctly then the addition of H2O2 creats as T.E. that 
should not be there !!!
   
  Switch to assymetrical electrodes as two othe people on this list have, and 
you like their product.
   
  When I made their systems I asked them to not reveal it as i am not in the 
business of making EIS systems.
   
  When my booklet comes out in a couple of weeks it will detail the process, 
and why one should do somethings. Diagrams, data plots, T.E.M.s the whole nine 
yards, even and invitro comparison with the best.
   
  "Ole Bob"

Dan Nave  wrote:
  Did you add the H2O2 to the batches at the same relative time after the 
CS had been made? In other words, did one batch cure longer than the 
other before you added the H2O2? Someone has indicated that the 
reaction of the CS to H2O2 is different depending on how fresh the CS is 
or how long the CS has cured.

On the new brew, perhaps try taking smaller batch quantities and adding 
H202 to these smaller quantities at different times relative to when the 
CS was made. EG, using the same brew:

Batch 1 has H2O2 added immediately after it has been made.

Batch 2 has H2O2 added 3 hours after it has been made.

Batch 3 has H2O2 added 6 hours after it has been made.

Batch 4 has H2O2 added 9 hours after it has been made.

Batch 4 has H2O2 added 12 hours after it has been made.

Batch 5 has H2O2 added 24 hours after it has been made.

and so on...

Dan


> 
> 
> Subject: CS>EIS and H2O2
> From: Marshall Dudley 
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:44:02 -0500
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> 
> OK, I am totally buffaloed now. I have made two 5 gallon batches and
> added H2O2 to them. Everything is as close to identical between them as I
> can get, but the reactions were totally different.
> 
> Batches were produced as follows:
> 
> Initial pH of water = 6.8
> electrode area = 48 square inches each .999 silver plates
> current = 38 mA
> voltage ran typically 15-16 volts during making it
> continuous stirring, and polarity reversal at one minute per half cycle.
> Silver content estimate from conductivity measurements 20 ppm
> both were crystal clear, and measured 16.5 uS.
> both batches made at about 62 degrees F.
> tyndall was faint
> did not measure pH before adding H2O2
> 
> Added .5 teaspoon H2O2 per gallon, IE 2.5 teaspoons of 3% to 5 gallons to
> give 17 ppm
> First batch tyndall stayed faint, maybe even became fainter -
> conductivity measured 16 uS essentially unchanged
> Second batch tyndall became strong, EIS has a slightly cloudy look, but
> no color, conductivity 9.5 uS approximately halved.
> Both batches measure a pH of about 7.6 after adding H2O2. Adding H2O2 to
> distilled water gives a pH of 6.8 unchanged from plain DW.
> 
> Taking samples of the second batch I did the following:
> 
> Heated it, cloudiness and tyndall stayed the same, indicating that it was
> no silver chloride or silver oxide precipitant since the solution limit
> goes up when you heat it.
> Diluted it by 50%, tyndall approximately halved, indicating once again
> that the cloudiness is NOT a silver compound with limited solubility
> Added another 50 or so ppm of H2O2, no change. Added 500 or more ppm of
> H2O2 and it cleared up. I have no idea what that means.
> Added ammonia (ammonium hydroxide), tyndall did not change, proving that
> the cloudyness is from colloidal particles not from any molecular
> compounds of silver precipitated.
> Checked for color, none noted, meaning that the particle size is either
> very small, so the absorption is in the uv range, or very big so the
> absorption is in the infrared range. Strong tyndall implies large
> particles though. Will let sit for 24 hours and see if anything
> precipitates out, if we have large particles I expect to see it clear
> upon sitting.
> 
> I am making another batch now. Before adding the H2O2 to the entire
> batch, I plan on adding it to a few ounce a drop at a time and try to
> figure out some more if the 3rd batch clouds up.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Concentrace and digestion/regularity

[EJohns9525]

In a message dated 12/30/05 5:25:20 PM Central Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca 
writes:

> This is the first benefit from Concentrace. It
> improves your digestion by supplying your liver with
> the nutrients it needs to manufacture digestive
> enzymes. The nearly universal experience with
> Concentrace is improved digestion/regularity. Just
> what the (Natural) doctor ordered.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> 

Thank you very much Mr Chamberlain.  I shall pass the good news on to her.

Edith

Re: CS>Coffee cravings

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

I was told that also. NOT TRUE!

- Original Message - 
From: "Nessie" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Coffee cravings


> Hmm. Interesting
> I was  always was told by health food store  that Nutrnl.. Yeast.. was  
> not an active yeast,
>  and so would have no effect on
> anyone with Candida.???
>  nessie..
> 
> Terry Chamberlin wrote:
> 
> >Cindy said,
> >"Now if I could only find something to reduce the
> >cravings for coffee."
> > 
> >.
> >
> >If you have yeast infection, Candida, etc., I will say
> >this: Half of my Candida clients can eat nutritional
> >yeast freely, the other half can hardly look at it.
> >Part of the reason for this is because there are a
> >large number of yeast organisms that are all labeled
> >"Candida", and they don't all react to yeast in the
> >same way.
> >
> >
> >
> >Terry Chamberlin
> >
> >   
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: CS>Re: CS yellow CS

[Pat]

I've always had my Colloid Master switch set to  standard.  I rinse my quart 
jars over and over and then rinse them  again with distilled water.  I scrub 
the silver wires and rinse  them with distilled water too.  Some batches I heat 
distilled  water to almost boiling and add a little CS before starting it and 
it  only takes about 1 1/2 to 2 hours at 5.5.  If I start cold, I  still add a 
little CS, just about a couple tablespoons maybe, and it  takes many hours, but 
I end up with the same results.  The  instructions said to strain it after 3 
days in coffee filters and I  just get a small amount of gray sediment (silver 
oxide?).  That  first batch I made at 8 settled out a bit and became yellow 
after  several days passed.  Does everyone get the gray sediment at the  bottom?
   
Pat 
  


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CS>Concentrace and digestion/regularity

[Terry Chamberlin]

Edith said,
“I have a friend who recently started taking
Concentrace.  She has taken a laxative such as cascara
for many years just to have a daily BM. After starting
the Concentrace, her stools were liquid at first but
now are just normal and she's not having to take the
Laxative. Why do you suppose this is happening?”

This is the first benefit from Concentrace. It
improves your digestion by supplying your liver with
the nutrients it needs to manufacture digestive
enzymes. The nearly universal experience with
Concentrace is improved digestion/regularity. Just
what the (Natural) doctor ordered.

Terry Chamberlin








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CS>Re: CS yellow CS

[ddarrin]

Pat
I've used my 777 for about five years and have never been able to get a 
colored batch.  I wanted to get to dark yellow for making a jell as the 
jell kit called for it.
You must have some contamination or you don't have the switch on the 
generator set to standard. On the fast setting there is no polarity 
reversal so you get the black streamers. That makes me think you are not 
getting the polarity reversal every 55 seconds. I set mine to 9 and 
don't have a problem with color.

Dave

Pat wrote:



I was wondering about my colloidal silverit's yellow and tastes 
like tarnished silverware, ...and I've brewed it with my Colloid 
Master 777 AC at level 5 1/2 to level 7 1/2so I figured it was 
pretty high ppm stuff.  I used a friend's TDS meter and it only came 
up 4 for one batch and 7 for my very strong batch that was 
yellow-gray.  I figured it would be higher than 8 ! to 14 ppm.  The 
yellow-gray batch (just smokey-gray at first) made my mouth and 
esophagus raw and my gums bled when I brushed my teeth after using a 
tablespoon full.  Seems lilke the CS I'm making is stronger than what 
I've bought, but that was usually 10 ppm.  The batch yesterday I 
brewed at 5 1/2 (out of possible 10 levels) which they say might equal 
about 10 ppm, and it went for about 7 hours and when I moved the jar, 
black streamers fell off the silver wires.  Is that normal? 

Thanks to everyone for your help.  I read all articles you put up 
links to and find them very interesting and informative.


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Re: CS>re-niacin/cholesterol

[sol]

Everything I have read about Cholesterol lowering drugs aside from drug 
company promotional stuff, says they do not reduce the overall death 
rate. In fact they can themselves cause death from side effects. So it 
might make a difference or not to one individual, but in studies they 
don't reduce the number of deaths. So, maybe one person who might have 
had a heart attack didn't have one, but the next guy died from the 
anti-cholesterol drug.  Even the original longterm Framingham study said 
the same thing, but I'm relying on my notoriously unreliable memory.


I've been amazed here at my husband reporting men he works with who've 
been put on one of the chol lowering drugs feel like total crap, so then 
the doctors put them on something else to relieve those side effects, 
then something else to relieve the side effects of the drug given for 
the original side effects, and pretty soon the person is taking at least 
3 rather heavy duty Rx meds. Not the direction I'd take myself.

sol

Pat wrote:

 This is very interesting about cholesterol not being the bad guy.  
What about all the drugs out now...do studies not show they lower 
heart attack?  They sure do think they're wonderful.  That was 
interesting about bran tooI find though that one spoonful a day is 
enough for regularity and I'm pretty certain that the incidence of 
diverticula and hemorrhoids is reduced with enough fiber in the diet.  
Maybe some people can eat enough veggies and fruits but I've found 
only bran or Metamucil wafers (yuck) do the trick. 




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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[sol]

Quite right. I did forgot to mention my raw veggies, salads, limited 
fruits, and so on.
The original Atkins is a very healthy diet *if* it suits the individual. 
I personally think things began to go badly awry with Atkins as an 
eating plan, when they got into all the fake carb replacements for 
breads, cakes, pastas,  and sweets of all kinds. I prefer to stick to 
real foods as much as humanly possible.

sol


grace1...@aol.com wrote:

Sometimes people get the wrong idea about the Atkins diet, that it 
consists of only meat, cheese, fat, and so forth.  That would 
definitely not be healthy, although I know some people who do well on 
that, and some who don't.  Atkins himself said that after the initial 
breaking in period with his diet, that he recommends fruits and 
vegetables (complex carbohydrates), and that people have gotten the 
wrong idea about his diet.  That would leave out only sugar and 
refined carbohydrates, and there is much evidence to suggest that 
these are the culprits in weight gain, as well as many degenerative 
diseases.  The complex carbohydrates are healthy, and the more raw, 
organic food we eat, the better. One may choose to focus on those 
complex carbohydrates which have a lower glycemic index, however. 
 
Some people are unaware that the Atkins diet was not originally 
designed for the purpose of loosing weight. Atkins was experimenting 
with a diet that would treat serious illness, such as heart disease, 
cancer, diabetes, etc., that was recalcitrant to other treatments.  
His famous diet worked outstandingly for these patients to return them 
to health.  The weight loss effect was noted later, as a side 
effect!   Nowadays, people often think that is its only purpose, 
and that benefits of loosing weight must be weighed against (sorry for 
the pun) the disadvantage of following this "unhealthy" diet.
 
Jill




 




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CS>re: purchase CS

[The PATH News]

Hi Sandee, I'm in US South Florida.
  Margaret
   
  Hi There Margaret which country are you located in ?
Regards
Sandee



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CS>re-niacin/cholesterol

[Pat]

 This is very interesting about cholesterol  not being the bad guy.  What about 
all the drugs out now...do  studies not show they lower heart attack?  They 
sure do think  they're wonderful.  That was interesting about bran tooI 
find  though that one spoonful a day is enough for regularity and I'm pretty  
certain that the incidence of diverticula and hemorrhoids is reduced  with 
enough fiber in the diet.  Maybe some people can eat enough  veggies and fruits 
but I've found only bran or Metamucil wafers (yuck)  do the trick.  
  
  I was wondering about my colloidal silverit's yellow and tastes  like 
tarnished silverware, ...and I've brewed it with my Colloid Master  777 AC at 
level 5 1/2 to level 7 1/2so I figured it was pretty high  ppm stuff.  I 
used a friend's TDS meter and it only came up 4 for  one batch and 7 for my 
very strong batch that was yellow-gray.  I  figured it would be higher than 8 
to 14 ppm.  The yellow-gray  batch (just smokey-gray at first) made my mouth 
and esophagus raw and  my gums bled when I brushed my teeth after using a 
tablespoon  full.  Seems lilke the CS I'm making is stronger than what I've  
bought, but that was usually 10 ppm.  The batch yesterday I brewed  at 5 1/2 
(out of possible 10 levels) which they say might equal about  10 ppm, and it 
went for about 7 hours and when I moved the jar, black  streamers fell off the 
silver wires.  Is that normal?  
  
  Thanks to everyone for your help.  I read all articles you put up links to 
and find them very interesting and informative.
  
  Pat
  
  
  


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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[Grace1way]

Sometimes people get the wrong idea about the Atkins diet, that it consists  
of only meat, cheese, fat, and so forth.  That would definitely not be  
healthy, although I know some people who do well on that, and some who  don't.  
Atkins himself said that after the initial breaking in period with  his diet, 
that 
he recommends fruits and vegetables (complex carbohydrates), and  that people 
have gotten the wrong idea about his diet.  That would leave  out only sugar 
and refined carbohydrates, and there is much evidence to suggest  that these 
are the culprits in weight gain, as well as many degenerative  diseases.  The 
complex carbohydrates are healthy, and the more raw, organic  food we eat, the 
better. One may choose to focus on those complex  carbohydrates which have a 
lower glycemic index, however. 
 
Some people are unaware that the Atkins diet was not originally designed  for 
the purpose of loosing weight. Atkins was experimenting with a diet that  
would treat serious illness, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., 
that  
was recalcitrant to other treatments.  His famous diet worked outstandingly  
for these patients to return them to health.  The weight loss effect  was 
noted later, as a side effect!   Nowadays, people often think  that is its 
only purpose, and that benefits of loosing weight must be weighed  against 
(sorry 
for the pun) the disadvantage of following this "unhealthy"  diet.
 
Jill

Re: CS>purchase CS

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Bob,

We like to know the background and activities of our members.


Margaret,
  I am replying to you direct so as not to appear to be soliciting 
business.


 I have been planning for some time on producing a high quality EIS (CS) 
at an affordable price. In fact yesterday  I was in contact with the 
company that  I am planning on getting my distilled water from.

Please tell us how you are going to make the CS.

Wayne

Re: CS>purchase CS

[Merywolf7]

Try Julie Hamilton of Wolfcreek.she has high quality CS and is good.
Marian


Remembering "Merry"


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Re: CS>purchase CS

[bob smith]

Margaret,
  I am replying to you direct so as not to appear to be soliciting 
business.  I have been planning for some time on producing a high quality EIS 
(CS) at an affordable price. In fact yesterday  I was in contact with the 
company that  I am planning on getting my distilled water from.

 Are you familiar with French Meadow Bakery?  If so, you would know that 
they stand for the highest standards in their products.  The founder of FMB is 
Lynn Gordon, is my oldest daughter.  When she founded FMB in 1985 I volunteered 
to help get it going.  She is now the largest baker of organic sourdough bread 
in the country.

   I mention this that while FMB is in no way connected with the company I am 
setting up to produce EIS, the standards will be the same. 

  While I expect that it may take as long as 3 to four months for me to get set 
up for production, I could supply you with a reasonably small amount say within 
a week.  As of today,  I have not even decided on a label design

  While I intend on making EIS available for as close to cost as possible, it 
cannot be produced  in any volume as cheaply as a quart at a time on the 
kitchen counter top.

 If you are interested in looking into my supplying you, let me know about how 
much you would order at a time and your shipping address  In the meantime, I 
will figure what the cost to you would be on various size orders of up to 12 
qts. (a case) There is a point where the shipping cost does not go down with 
less weight.

 Please do not respond to this on the CS site.   My e-mail address is 
rresm...@comcast.netBob Smith












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  Hello All,
  I am interested in purchasing CS from someone on the list. I use it regularly 
for my MS and also for my aging dog. It is so expensive to purchase from 
companies and I'm never sure of the quality.  I was hoping someone here may 
have an economical size and price. I use to make my own but it has become too 
difficult for me lately.  I also have clients who would be interested in 
purchasing as well.
  TIA, 
  Margaret



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CS>EIS and H2O2

[Dan Nave]

Did you add the H2O2 to the batches at the same relative time after the 
CS had been made?  In other words, did one batch cure longer than the 
other before you added the H2O2?  Someone has indicated that the 
reaction of the CS to H2O2 is different depending on how fresh the CS is 
or how long the CS has cured.


On the new brew, perhaps try taking smaller batch quantities and adding 
H202 to these smaller quantities at different times relative to when the 
CS was made.  EG, using the same brew:


Batch 1 has H2O2 added immediately after it has been made.

Batch 2 has H2O2 added 3 hours after it has been made.

Batch 3 has H2O2 added 6 hours after it has been made.

Batch 4 has H2O2 added 9 hours after it has been made.

Batch 4 has H2O2 added 12 hours after it has been made.

Batch 5 has H2O2 added 24 hours after it has been made.

and so on...

Dan





Subject: CS>EIS and H2O2
From: Marshall Dudley 
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:44:02 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com


OK, I am totally buffaloed now.  I have made two 5 gallon batches and
added H2O2 to them. Everything is as close to identical between them as I
can get, but the reactions were totally different.

Batches were produced as follows:

Initial pH of water = 6.8
electrode area = 48 square inches each .999 silver plates
current = 38 mA
voltage ran typically 15-16 volts during making it
continuous stirring, and polarity reversal at one minute per half cycle.
Silver content estimate from conductivity measurements 20 ppm
both were crystal clear, and measured 16.5 uS.
both batches made at about 62 degrees F.
tyndall was faint
did not measure pH before adding H2O2

Added .5 teaspoon H2O2 per gallon, IE 2.5 teaspoons of 3% to 5 gallons to
give 17 ppm
First batch tyndall stayed faint, maybe even became fainter -
conductivity measured 16 uS essentially unchanged
Second batch tyndall became strong, EIS has a slightly cloudy look, but
no color, conductivity 9.5 uS approximately halved.
Both batches measure a pH of about 7.6 after adding H2O2.  Adding H2O2 to
distilled water gives a pH of 6.8 unchanged from plain DW.

Taking samples of the second batch I did the following:

Heated it, cloudiness and tyndall stayed the same, indicating that it was
no silver chloride or silver oxide precipitant since the solution limit
goes up when you heat it.
Diluted it by 50%, tyndall approximately halved, indicating once again
that the cloudiness is NOT a silver compound with limited solubility
Added another 50 or so ppm of H2O2, no change. Added 500 or more ppm of
H2O2 and it cleared up. I have no idea what that means.
Added ammonia (ammonium hydroxide), tyndall did not change, proving that
the cloudyness is from colloidal particles not from any molecular
compounds of silver precipitated.
Checked for color, none noted, meaning that the particle size is either
very small, so the absorption is in the uv range, or very big so the
absorption is in the infrared range. Strong tyndall implies large
particles though. Will let sit for 24 hours and see if anything
precipitates out, if we have large particles I expect to see it clear
upon sitting.

I am making another batch now.  Before adding the H2O2 to the entire
batch, I plan on adding it to a few ounce a drop at a time and try to
figure out some more if the 3rd batch clouds up.

Marshall






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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[sol]

I believe you are missing my point. I certainly did not mean to imply 
that a low carb high fat high animal protein diet is best for everyone.
According to the "Metabolic Typing Diet" one does some testing to 
determine one's basic metabolic type, then since there are a lot of 
variations within types/across types,  starts with a basic food plan for 
their basic type, and fine tunes from there. The fine tuning results in 
a very individualized diet, based on how one reacts on many levels. The 
iea is to find the diet that best maintains health for an individual. 
Most diets and books recommend one diet for everyone.
I spoke from my own prejudice. I've never personally run across anything 
written by a nutritionist that didn't have a one size fits all diet they 
gave to everyone.

sol

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote:

you have some valid points.. But your theory or "their" theory on 
metabolic types is also inconsistant. It works for some but doesn't 
work for all. So if it is individual then one cannot say that one 
works for all. And if a holistic nutritionist opinion is in question? 
then we might as well throw all professional based thinking out the 
window and go back to the drawing board for "ALL" involved. You 
probably noticed I didn't mention "dietician" also limitted in 
thinking from my experience. I would humbly say that if someone has a 
condition, which ever that condition may be has to do their own 
dilegence homework but also keep an open mind enough to consider all 
methods in anything undertaken.


with all due respect.

Ernie



From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:20:24 -0700

What makes one person acidic doesn't mean that same thing will make 
every single human being on the planet acidic.
Check the book "Metabolic Typing Diet". It discusses the 
acid/alkaline balance. Some of us achieve balance on a diet that 
would throw others out of whack.
There is a HUGE fallacy in thinking everyone needs or thrives or will 
achieve a good acid/alkaline balance on the same diet. It simply is 
not true. There is no laziness involved for me, at least.
Most nutritionists are far too likely to believe that there is only 
one diet that is best for everyone, so only SOME of their clients 
will thrive on their recommendations. Many will become worse.
FWIW, I did not go on Atkins to lose weight, but to feel better, and 
I did. Anyone who went on an Atkins low carb diet and felt worse 
would be a fool to continue. Just as it would have been foolish for 
me to stay on a low fat vegetarian diet.
Any understanding of food/how to eat is individual,  there is no one 
best way for everyone.

sol

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote:


Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.
This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. 
which makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not 
designed to be acidic. The simple reason all these different "diets" 
have been created is because people are too lazy in most cases to 
exercise properly and daily. People want a fast and convenient way 
to lose weight. Proper diet means eating sensibly and complimenting 
this with regular proper exercise.



From: "Barbara" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:19 -0500

Atkins is a healthy way of eating.  It has been proven by studies 
in Europe, so he claims.


Barbara



  OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins 
(very
  high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides 
dropped

  167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers
  stayed about the same.
  sol





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Re: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?

[Raine]

Hi Pete,

I would start with the liver. If we look at skin as one of our biggest 
elimination organs, cleaning the liver can go a long way to helping with 
skin issues. At 21 she can have a lot of toxins stored away that her 
body is trying to get out however possible. My suggestion would be a 
bowel cleanse/liver flush/anti-parasite regimen. There's a lot of info 
to be found about this on Curezone.com.


Of course, have her keep misting topically in the meantime. :-)

-Raine

panamp...@aol.com wrote:

Well list, I am back again with a request for my 21yr old's Acne.  
We(she) had tried "ProActive" for several months which worked for 
awhile but then stopped.  The doctor
then put her on, "Tetracycline" which helped a little, but started to 
turn her forehead a
yellowish shade.  Since then she has tried nearly all the OTC products 
including some
that are treated orally and with creams to the face.  Yes, she did try 
"EIS"(misting on
her face), but didn't get in to drinking much of it.  She is going 
back on New Year's Day
to Kansas City Art Institute to finish her junior year but is still 
covered with acne.  I
think she felt better after having seen my "Cansema nose" which does 
still look like a
bad case of acne.  The acne seems to lower her "self-esteem" as she 
is always hesitant
on going shopping, thinking people are looking at her.  I will try 
anything to help her, as
she is truly a pretty girl and full of life!   I am open to most any 
suggestions, hoping that
maybe something new has come around since last addressing this 
issue.Pete




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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[Barbara]

I agree with you sol.  I also feel better on Atkins and 
plan on staying on it for a lng time :)

Barbara



  FWIW, I did not go on Atkins to lose weight, but to feel better, and I 
  did. Anyone who went on an Atkins low carb diet and felt worse would be 
  a fool to continue. Just as it would have been foolish for me to stay on 
  a low fat vegetarian diet.
  Any understanding of food/how to eat is individual,  there is no one 
  best way for everyone.
  sol

RE: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?

[epatai]

Acne or dry skin around the nose, face, eyes is caused by a hot liver or 
acidic environment within the body according to my homeopath. I am currently 
on pellets( Gentiana- liver heat toxin and calmer) and been told to reduce 
my intake or eliminate all together my refined sugar and acidic fruit and 
veggie foods to help rid my body of fungus. I did a liver cleanse twice 
within 2-3 weeks last year due to a seperate issue. Liver wasn't too bad. it 
was a one day cleanse. wasn't the greatest taste or feeling but was 
effective. Coffee is also something I was asked to quit for he time being. 
:-)


Maybe going to see a homeopath would help isolate to determine the cause and 
have the doc give a remedy. Takes the guess work out of trial and error.


E>



From: panamp...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:58:44 EST



Well list, I am back again with a request for my 21yr old's  Acne.  We(she)
had tried "ProActive" for several months which worked  for awhile but then
stopped.  The doctor
then put her on, "Tetracycline" which helped a little, but started to  turn
her forehead a
yellowish shade.  Since then she has tried nearly all the OTC  products
including some
that are treated orally and with creams to the face.  Yes, she  did try
"EIS"(misting on
her face), but didn't get in to drinking much of it.  She is  going back on
New Year's Day
to Kansas City Art Institute to finish her junior year but is still  
covered

with acne.  I
think she felt better after having seen my "Cansema nose" which does  still
look like a
bad case of acne.  The acne seems to lower her  "self-esteem" as she is
always hesitant
on going shopping, thinking people are looking at her.  I will  try 
anything

to help her, as
she is truly a pretty girl and full of life!   I am open to  most any
suggestions, hoping that
maybe something new has come around since last addressing this  issue.
Pete






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CS>Acne, CS, EIS, and what?

[PanAmPete]

 
 
Well list, I am back again with a request for my 21yr old's  Acne.  We(she) 
had tried "ProActive" for several months which worked  for awhile but then 
stopped.  The doctor
then put her on, "Tetracycline" which helped a little, but started to  turn 
her forehead a
yellowish shade.  Since then she has tried nearly all the OTC  products 
including some
that are treated orally and with creams to the face.  Yes, she  did try 
"EIS"(misting on
her face), but didn't get in to drinking much of it.  She is  going back on 
New Year's Day
to Kansas City Art Institute to finish her junior year but is still  covered 
with acne.  I
think she felt better after having seen my "Cansema nose" which does  still 
look like a
bad case of acne.  The acne seems to lower her  "self-esteem" as she is 
always hesitant
on going shopping, thinking people are looking at her.  I will  try anything 
to help her, as
she is truly a pretty girl and full of life!   I am open to  most any 
suggestions, hoping that
maybe something new has come around since last addressing this  issue. 
Pete

Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[epatai]

you have some valid points.. But your theory or "their" theory on metabolic 
types is also inconsistant. It works for some but doesn't work for all. So 
if it is individual then one cannot say that one works for all. And if a 
holistic nutritionist opinion is in question? then we might as well throw 
all professional based thinking out the window and go back to the drawing 
board for "ALL" involved. You probably noticed I didn't mention "dietician" 
also limitted in thinking from my experience. I would humbly say that if 
someone has a condition, which ever that condition may be has to do their 
own dilegence homework but also keep an open mind enough to consider all 
methods in anything undertaken.


with all due respect.

Ernie



From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:20:24 -0700

What makes one person acidic doesn't mean that same thing will make every 
single human being on the planet acidic.
Check the book "Metabolic Typing Diet". It discusses the acid/alkaline 
balance. Some of us achieve balance on a diet that would throw others out 
of whack.
There is a HUGE fallacy in thinking everyone needs or thrives or will 
achieve a good acid/alkaline balance on the same diet. It simply is not 
true. There is no laziness involved for me, at least.
Most nutritionists are far too likely to believe that there is only one 
diet that is best for everyone, so only SOME of their clients will thrive 
on their recommendations. Many will become worse.
FWIW, I did not go on Atkins to lose weight, but to feel better, and I did. 
Anyone who went on an Atkins low carb diet and felt worse would be a fool 
to continue. Just as it would have been foolish for me to stay on a low fat 
vegetarian diet.
Any understanding of food/how to eat is individual,  there is no one best 
way for everyone.

sol

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote:


Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.
This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. which 
makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not designed to 
be acidic. The simple reason all these different "diets" have been created 
is because people are too lazy in most cases to exercise properly and 
daily. People want a fast and convenient way to lose weight. Proper diet 
means eating sensibly and complimenting this with regular proper exercise.



From: "Barbara" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:19 -0500

Atkins is a healthy way of eating.  It has been proven by studies in 
Europe, so he claims.


Barbara



  OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins (very
  high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides 
dropped

  167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers
  stayed about the same.
  sol





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Re: CS>purchase CS

[Sandee George]

Hi There Margaret which country are you located in ?
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[sol]

What makes one person acidic doesn't mean that same thing will make 
every single human being on the planet acidic.
Check the book "Metabolic Typing Diet". It discusses the acid/alkaline 
balance. Some of us achieve balance on a diet that would throw others 
out of whack.
There is a HUGE fallacy in thinking everyone needs or thrives or will 
achieve a good acid/alkaline balance on the same diet. It simply is not 
true. There is no laziness involved for me, at least.
Most nutritionists are far too likely to believe that there is only one 
diet that is best for everyone, so only SOME of their clients will 
thrive on their recommendations. Many will become worse.
FWIW, I did not go on Atkins to lose weight, but to feel better, and I 
did. Anyone who went on an Atkins low carb diet and felt worse would be 
a fool to continue. Just as it would have been foolish for me to stay on 
a low fat vegetarian diet.
Any understanding of food/how to eat is individual,  there is no one 
best way for everyone.

sol

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote:


Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.
This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. 
which makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not 
designed to be acidic. The simple reason all these different "diets" 
have been created is because people are too lazy in most cases to 
exercise properly and daily. People want a fast and convenient way to 
lose weight. Proper diet means eating sensibly and complimenting this 
with regular proper exercise.



From: "Barbara" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:19 -0500

Atkins is a healthy way of eating.  It has been proven by studies in 
Europe, so he claims.


Barbara



  OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins (very
  high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides 
dropped

  167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers
  stayed about the same.
  sol





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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[Barbara]

Everyone is different metabolically.  Atkins suits me perfectly and I follow it 
for close to 2 years now.  

Barbara




  Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.
  This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. which 
  makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not designed to be 
  acidic. 

Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[ruth strackbein]

from ruthstrackbein at hotmail.com: I have been eating a celiac type diet for about a year and a half.  I have not been diagnosed with celiac, but it seemed a healthy way to go.  I weighed around 150 lbs to start . Last time I was at the Dr.s it was 128 with clothes.  At home I weigh 115-120.  That has remained pretty steady.  I eat chicken, turkey, fish, eggs, vegetables, no wheat, flour, barley, etc.  I just do not eat bread.  I do use a very little of the Fleischman's olive oil oleo. Get rid of  skin and fat on chicken. Once in awhile I eat beef. My last cholesterol readings showed triglycerides 76, hdl was up  a little, LDL remained the same as always which is on the high side. I can't remember the exact readings.  But this has not helped my digestive problems at all.  Think part may be due 
to adhesions from 3 abdominal surgeries .  Any further information would be welcome.  I do not eat sweets.
From Ruth Strackbein


From: Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>NiacinDate: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:21:44 +>Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.>This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. >which makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not >designed to be acidic. The simple reason all these different "diets" >have been created is because people are too lazy in most cases to >exercise properly and daily. People want a fast and convenient way >to lose weight. Proper diet means eating sensibly and complimenting >this with regular proper exercise. In the beginning this requires >some educating onself to understand foods or to see a 
nutritionist >who does. Takes "time" as in months to allow the body to adjust and >not shock it. We want immediate gratification now days. It doesn't >take a few weeks to put on 50-100lbs..so it would make sense to >understand it will take about as long to lose the same amount of >weight.From: "Barbara" >>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com>>To: >>Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin>>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:19 -0500Atkins is a healthy way of eating. It has been proven by studies >>in Europe, so he claims.Barbara OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins 
>>(very>> high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides >>dropped>> 167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol >>numbers>> stayed about the same.>> sol>>-->The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >Silver.>>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org>>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com>>Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com>>The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...>>List maintainer: Mike Devour >>

Re: CS>Nutritional yeast, blood sugar

[ruth strackbein]

To ejohns9...@aol.com, Would like information about testing myself, re your message about Concentrace.  I, too, have had constipation problems all my life.  Any other information you have would be welcome.  ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
From Ruth Strackbein


From: ejohns9...@aol.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CS>Nutritional yeast, blood sugarDate: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:49:33 ESTIn a message dated 12/30/05 9:41:09 AM Central Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes:
Concentrace is an excellentsource of trace “mortar” minerals (what holds thebricks together), but has only small trace amounts ofthe “brick” macro-minerals that we need large amountsof (calcium, potassium, magnesium, etc.). pH testingwill tell you which specific type of calcium you need,and which to avoid. Contact me if you would like me tosend you info on how to test yourself.Terry,I have a friend who recently started taking Concentrace.  She has taken a laxativesuch as cascara for many years just to have a daily BM.   After starting the Concentrace,her stools were liquid at first but now are just normal and she's not having to take the Laxative.  Why do you suppose this is happening?Edith 


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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[epatai]

Atkins is certainly NOT a healthy way of eating IMHO.
This makes the blood and the body's environment EXTREMELY acidic. which 
makes it a great host for future problems. our system is not designed to be 
acidic. The simple reason all these different "diets" have been created is 
because people are too lazy in most cases to exercise properly and daily. 
People want a fast and convenient way to lose weight. Proper diet means 
eating sensibly and complimenting this with regular proper exercise. In the 
beginning this requires some educating onself to understand foods or to see 
a nutritionist who does. Takes "time" as in months to allow the body to 
adjust and not shock it. We want immediate gratification now days. It 
doesn't take a few weeks to put on 50-100lbs..so it would make sense to 
understand it will take about as long to lose the same amount of weight.




From: "Barbara" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:19 -0500

Atkins is a healthy way of eating.  It has been proven by studies in 
Europe, so he claims.


Barbara



  OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins (very
  high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides dropped
  167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers
  stayed about the same.
  sol





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CS>friend who doesn't get colds, was Re: CS>CS misting

[sol]

Mike,
  She says she had some fillings in her young adulthood,  but she has 
had her dentures (full top and bottom) since her early to mid 50's. So 
that would put her having no teeth since around 1970.

sol

M. G. Devour wrote:


Sol wrote:
 


I have a friend who is 90 who never gets a cold or flu. She just never
catches them, ever. She tells me she never has in her entire 90 years. I
have known her for over 12 years now, and she has not had a cold or the
flu in those 12 years, so she seems to be telling it accurately. sol
   



Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any 
"silver" fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970?


I'd be curious.

Thanks,

 




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Re: CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[Barbara]

Atkins is a healthy way of eating.  It has been proven by studies in Europe, so 
he claims. 

Barbara



  OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins (very 
  high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides dropped 
  167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers 
  stayed about the same.
  sol

CS>cholesterol and triglycerides, was Re: CS>Niacin

[sol]

Mine is sugar and carbs. I once was on a severely lowfat vegetarian diet 
for 9-10 months, lost 20 lbs but at the end of it, my triglycerides were 
sky high, and LDL was way up, HDL very low. At the time, my doctor said 
high triglycerides are a far more important indicator of heart attack 
risk than total cholesterol, particularly for women. This doctor did not 
believe I was not eating fats, and kept telling me to cut them out.


OTOH, a couple years later, after a short stint of strict Atkins (very 
high fat, lots of protein, no carbs, no sugar) my triglycerides dropped 
167 points, HDL was up, LDL a bit lower. Overall cholesterol numbers 
stayed about the same.

sol

 
I'm curious about the high readings for cholesterol and triglycerides 
that others in this group are experiencing.  What do some of you think 
the cause is?  For me personally the cause is...decaffinated coffee.  
When I get off of it, my readings have fallen to normal within 6 
months.  Then I got back on it, I was using 2 scoops of coffee to 2 
cups water, once or twice a day, and my triglycerides were really 
high.  Have heard caffinated coffee will affect cholesterol & 
triglycerides less because of chemicals they use todecaffinatee coffee. 




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Re: CS>Nutritional yeast, blood sugar

[EJohns9525]

In a message dated 12/30/05 9:41:09 AM Central Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca 
writes:

> Concentrace is an excellent
> source of trace “mortar” minerals (what holds the
> bricks together), but has only small trace amounts of
> the “brick” macro-minerals that we need large amounts
> of (calcium, potassium, magnesium, etc.). pH testing
> will tell you which specific type of calcium you need,
> and which to avoid. Contact me if you would like me to
> send you info on how to test yourself.
> 

Terry,

I have a friend who recently started taking Concentrace.  She has taken a 
laxative
such as cascara for many years just to have a daily BM.   After starting the 
Concentrace,
her stools were liquid at first but now are just normal and she's not having 
to take the 
Laxative.  Why do you suppose this is happening?

Edith

RE: CS>purchase CS

[epatai]

Hi,

There are plenty of people here that can help you with purchasing or even 
making your own CS.


Go here www.silverpuppy.com This site has machines that can make CS at a 
fraction of a cost of buying the solution bottled.


I'm sure others will give you more info on here.

Cheers,

Ernie



From: The PATH News 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>purchase CS
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:34:47 -0800 (PST)

Hello All,
  I am interested in purchasing CS from someone on the list. I use it 
regularly for my MS and also for my aging dog. It is so expensive to 
purchase from companies and I'm never sure of the quality.  I was hoping 
someone here may have an economical size and price. I use to make my own 
but it has become too difficult for me lately.  I also have clients who 
would be interested in purchasing as well.

  TIA,
  Margaret


Margaret Templeton
Certified Herbalist
http://mynsp.com/thepathnews


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CS>Nutritional yeast, blood sugar

[Terry Chamberlin]

Nessie said,
“I was always was told by health food store that
Nutritional Yeast was not an active yeast, and so
would have no effect on
anyone with Candida.???”

In some ways, it’s not about it being yeast.
Apparently, some candida-type yeast fungi feed on
nutritional yeast, some don’t. You are right, the N.
yeast is not an active yeast (meaning it doesn’t
reproduce itself). It is sometimes called a ‘dead
yeast’. Whatever the reason, some of my candida
clients experience terrible reactions from N. yeast
and some can eat it by the cup. The safe approach is
to take very small amounts at a time and see how you
feel. I’ve even had clients who can eat one or two
tspns/day with no reaction, but not more.

Betsy said,
“I also had a question for Terry. Do you advise taking
minerals other than Concentrace? The amount listed on
the bottle doesn’t seem like enough calcium and other
minerals.”

Yes, you are correct. Concentrace is an excellent
source of trace “mortar” minerals (what holds the
bricks together), but has only small trace amounts of
the “brick” macro-minerals that we need large amounts
of (calcium, potassium, magnesium, etc.). pH testing
will tell you which specific type of calcium you need,
and which to avoid. Contact me if you would like me to
send you info on how to test yourself.

Pat said,
“I know the cause of my higher than it should be
cholesterol and triglycerides..eating too much of
the wrong kind of food. I'd rather eat sweets than
anything in the world..”

As I mentioned in an earlier post, a sweet tooth is an
indication of fluctuating blood sugar. It is also an
indication of a B-vitamin deficiency. Nutritional
yeast improves both of those. But a sweet tooth can
also be indicative of emotional issues, the need to
feel secure and loved (I know this personally). I
could not recommend more highly that you look into
Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT). Go to
www.emofree.com and look around there. I have a
PowerPoint presentation file that I can send you that
shows you how to use EFT to dramatically affect those
and many other emotional issues. Just contact me.

Terry Chamberlin







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CS>purchase CS

[The PATH News]

Hello All,
  I am interested in purchasing CS from someone on the list. I use it regularly 
for my MS and also for my aging dog. It is so expensive to purchase from 
companies and I'm never sure of the quality.  I was hoping someone here may 
have an economical size and price. I use to make my own but it has become too 
difficult for me lately.  I also have clients who would be interested in 
purchasing as well.
  TIA, 
  Margaret


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Re: CS>email spam to mike

[M. G. Devour]

> Sometimes I email folks off the forum if I wish to
> address an issue that I have had personal experience
> with and want to share it " one on one" with another.
> Is this acceptable? I always try to post a heading
> that tells them I am from the silver forum.

The only time I'd have any concern with off-list communications with 
members is if there's a complaint about inappropriate behavior or 
unwanted commercial solicitation.

If you'd rather discuss something privately, or you're concerned that 
the subject is too far off topic for the main list, private e-mail is a 
viable option.

> I also wanted to say that several months ago, we had a
> computer virus that crashed our computer. I think it
> came in from a link that was posted on the silver
> forum because I had only been on the forum that
> evening and we picked up a bad virus after this.

Feel free to let me know if something like this happens, folks. It may 
be possible to identify the malicious web site and warn people off.

I hope you've updated your browser software with all the available 
security patches and that you're running a good anti-virus package, 
like AVG.

> I also had a question for Terry. Do you advise taking
> minerals other than concentrace? The amount listed on
> the bottle doesnt seem like enough calcium and other minerals.

I use Concentrace to re-mineralize distilled water for drinking. I have 
a 5 gallon water cooler we keep refilling from 2.5 gallon jugs of 
distilled. A couple of teaspoons of concentrace and it tastes very 
good, with no chlorine or flouride poisons.

Thanks for the heads-up, Betsy.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Anyone had/ heard of experiencing help with

[Merywolf7]

a condition called foot drop, caused by a neurological issue caused my many 
issues, some diabetic, some just compression?
be well
Marian and Hounds


Remembering "Merry"


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CS>Turmeric for MS?

[Peter]

Turmeric (Curcuma longa) is the yellow spice most familiar in Indian cooking 
and American prepared mustard. I recommend it for all inflammatory disorders 
and for autoimmune conditions, including MS. As you may know, MS begins with 
localized inflammatory damage to the myelin sheaths surrounding nerve fibers, 
due to an attack by the immune system. I recommend both turmeric and ginger, 
also a natural anti-inflammatory, for treatment of the inflammation that people 
with MS experience. Interesting results of laboratory research published in the 
June 15, 2002 issue of the Journal of Immunology suggest that turmeric may have 
more far-reaching effects for MS patients. 

The researcher who directed the study noted that in India and China, where 
people eat more spicy foods and more yellow compounds like curcumin, MS is a 
very rare disease. The amounts of curcumin the mice received were about the 
same as humans would consume in a typical Indian diet. No one knows how 
curcumin might block progression of MS. But these intriguing results suggest 
that eating foods flavored with turmeric might help. As an alternative, you can 
take turmeric extracts, such as New Chapter's Turmericforce. 


peter