Re: CS>OT: A Shared Reflection

[scl...@netzero.net]

I just devoured everything on Bruce Lipton's website. He is a wise man. I 
believe he has a firm grasp on the truths of what really makes us tick, how and 
why we heal or don't heal. Good stuff.
Steve

-- "Brooks Bradley"  wrote:
   Dear Membership,
As most of you know, from time to time I have an inexplicable 
outbreak of "inchoate 
ramblings"tonight is one of those.  Throughout the immediately-past 55 
years of searching/seeking through scientific/philosophical academia I have, on 
rare occasions, come across a book of unusually powerful dimensions.  I wish to 
share with you, now, such a find.  This brief little book is as startling and 
powerful in impact (at least to me), as any I have ever read--and I have 
read thousands  (as an avid reader for the past 50+ yearsaveraging over 3 
books a week one can see that is no idle statement).  It presents a 
mind-altering proposition relating to the field of Biology.  Written in a prose 
totally understandable to the entire layman audience, its central theme is (to 
me at least) little short of revolutionary.  Dr. Lipton's presentation 
addresses the reigning precepts of the current mainstream
Biological Reductionism.with a frontal attack it cannot withstand.  I do 
not want to spoil any possible "ah-hah" moments by summarizing its contents for 
anyone interested (who has not previously read
it)in reading it.  I will, however, state that his treatment of the dynamics of 
the "CELL" are nothing short of riveting.both in import and clarity of 
explanation.  Were I still teaching in academia, and Biology was my tenured 
subjectI would require all of my students to read this book.  No matter 
what their conclusions might be.the challenges toward independent 
reflection are more than sufficient to justify its reading.  Written in large 
type and only 205 pages in length.it will read faster than   
than the Sports Page in the newspaper.  You will be taken on a fascinating 
journey covering microbiology,  a truly understandable explanation of how 
proteins actually control the movement of life,
(plus illustrations of how it is done), how cells actually "educate 
themselves", how life programs itself:  the true nature and role of DNA (Boy, 
will you be surprised); what is most influential in
controlling the life of the cell (its not what you may have thought) and the 
true brain of the cell.
plus much more of the concepts which have given birth to the entire discipline 
of Epigenetics and the
astounding effects of environment upon the actions of cells. Dr. Lipton's 
comments on the effects of Quantum Physics impacting Biology are, alone, worth 
reading this volume (Actually, he is the ONLY biologist I have known of-who 
possesses an actual working knowledge of quantum physics).
The book is entitled "The Biology of Belief", by Bruce Lipton, Phd. 
 For what it may be worth, this is the first and only book I have ever publicly 
touted large numbers to read.  You may
not be as enthusiastic about it as am I..but I bet you will be (at least 
the intellectual "envelope pushers" like Marshall Dudley, Ole Bob, Jim Holmes, 
Mikeand many others).  
 Mine is not a better way, mine is just a different way.  My 
apologies for taking up so much bandwidth with this epistle, but I promise to 
restrain myself for another year.if I last that long.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 
 

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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Dennis Gulenchin]

John,
I'd be hesitant to use paper towel in a liquid made for drinking as 
paper bleached with chlorine creates dangerous toxins such as dioxins. 
Maybe a better choice would be to use unbleached coffee filter paper.

Dennis

John McLean wrote:

The brass plate is the cathode, so it isn't sacrificial, and no the 
paper towelling, the type used in the kitchen, will not affect it.
I soaked them for 5 days in distilled water to see what would happen, 
and the paper stayed intact, and checking the TDS reading, made no 
difference at all

John
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From: Carol Ann 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

wow.
 Why the brass plate.  Why wouldn't the paper towel contaminate
the solution.

HRBE mailto:h...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:

I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.

I have come up with the following setup.

1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
1 x aquarium water pump
1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.

I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in
paper towel to
prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I
limited the current
to 100ma.

By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to
wipe the
plate clean.

8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution,
which reads
25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.

I used current control because I didn't have the time to
"babysit" the
process

I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am
building 45
volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the
brew process
time.

Hope this is of interest to the group

John McLean
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Re: CS>OT: A Shared Reflection

[starshar]

From: "Brooks Bradley" 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:01 PM

***
Quick note: I've read it and I "second the motion"!

Sharon
**



  Dear Membership,
   As most of you know, from time to time I have an inexplicable 
outbreak of "inchoate
ramblings"tonight is one of those.  Throughout the immediately-past 55 
years of searching/seeking through scientific/philosophical academia I 
have, on rare occasions, come across a book of unusually powerful 
dimensions.  I wish to share with you, now, such a find.  This brief 
little book is as startling and powerful in impact (at least to me), as 
any I have ever read--and I have read thousands  (as an avid reader 
for the past 50+ yearsaveraging over 3 books a week one can see that 
is no idle statement).  It presents a mind-altering proposition relating 
to the field of Biology.  Written in a prose totally understandable to the 
entire layman audience, its central theme is (to me at least) little short 
of revolutionary.  Dr. Lipton's presentation addresses the reigning 
precepts of the current mainstream
Biological Reductionism.with a frontal attack it cannot withstand.  I 
do not want to spoil any possible "ah-hah" moments by summarizing its 
contents for anyone interested (who has not previously read
it)in reading it.  I will, however, state that his treatment of the 
dynamics of the "CELL" are nothing short of riveting.both in import 
and clarity of explanation.  Were I still teaching in academia, and 
Biology was my tenured subjectI would require all of my students to 
read this book.  No matter what their conclusions might be.the 
challenges toward independent reflection are more than sufficient to 
justify its reading.  Written in large type and only 205 pages in 
length.it will read faster than
than the Sports Page in the newspaper.  You will be taken on a fascinating 
journey covering microbiology,  a truly understandable explanation of how 
proteins actually control the movement of life,
(plus illustrations of how it is done), how cells actually "educate 
themselves", how life programs itself:  the true nature and role of DNA 
(Boy, will you be surprised); what is most influential in
controlling the life of the cell (its not what you may have thought) and 
the true brain of the cell.
plus much more of the concepts which have given birth to the entire 
discipline of Epigenetics and the
astounding effects of environment upon the actions of cells. Dr. Lipton's 
comments on the effects of Quantum Physics impacting Biology are, alone, 
worth reading this volume (Actually, he is the ONLY biologist I have known 
of-who possesses an actual working knowledge of quantum physics).
   The book is entitled "The Biology of Belief", by Bruce Lipton, 
Phd.  For what it may be worth, this is the first and only book I have 
ever publicly touted large numbers to read.  You may
not be as enthusiastic about it as am I..but I bet you will be (at 
least the intellectual "envelope pushers" like Marshall Dudley, Ole Bob, 
Jim Holmes, Mikeand many others).
Mine is not a better way, mine is just a different way.  My 
apologies for taking up so much bandwidth with this epistle, but I promise 
to restrain myself for another year.if I last that long.

  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.



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Re: CS>OT: A Shared Reflection

[debbiegerard99]

Dear Brooks thank you for the advice on this book I will try to get a copy and 
read itnever apologize for your most interesting ramblings I for one enjoy 
them..:)...debbie

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From: "Brooks Bradley"  

> Dear Membership, 
> As most of you know, from time to time I have an inexplicable 
> outbreak of "inchoate 
> ramblings"tonight is one of those. Throughout the immediately-past 55 
> years 
> of searching/seeking through scientific/philosophical academia I have, on 
> rare 
> occasions, come across a book of unusually powerful dimensions. I wish to 
> share 
> with you, now, such a find. This brief little book is as startling and 
> powerful 
> in impact (at least to me), as any I have ever read--and I have read 
> thousands (as an avid reader for the past 50+ yearsaveraging over 3 books 
> a 
> week one can see that is no idle statement). It presents a mind-altering 
> proposition relating to the field of Biology. Written in a prose totally 
> understandable to the entire layman audience, its central theme is (to me at 
> least) little short of revolutionary. Dr. Lipton's presentation addresses the 
> reigning precepts of the current mainstream 
> Biological Reductionism.with a frontal attack it cannot withstand. I do 
> not 
> want to spoil any possible "ah-hah" moments by summarizing its contents for 
> anyone interested (who has not previously read 
> it)in reading it. I will, however, state that his treatment of the dynamics 
> of 
> the "CELL" are nothing short of riveting.both in import and clarity of 
> explanation. Were I still teaching in academia, and Biology was my tenured 
> subjectI would require all of my students to read this book. No matter 
> what 
> their conclusions might be.the challenges toward independent reflection 
> are 
> more than sufficient to justify its reading. Written in large type and only 
> 205 
> pages in length.it will read faster than 
> than the Sports Page in the newspaper. You will be taken on a fascinating 
> journey covering microbiology, a truly understandable explanation of how 
> proteins actually control the movement of life, 
> (plus illustrations of how it is done), how cells actually "educate 
> themselves", 
> how life programs itself: the true nature and role of DNA (Boy, will you be 
> surprised); what is most influential in 
> controlling the life of the cell (its not what you may have thought) and the 
> true brain of the cell. 
> plus much more of the concepts which have given birth to the entire 
> discipline 
> of Epigenetics and the 
> astounding effects of environment upon the actions of cells. Dr. Lipton's 
> comments on the effects of Quantum Physics impacting Biology are, alone, 
> worth 
> reading this volume (Actually, he is the ONLY biologist I have known 
> of-who 
> possesses an actual working knowledge of quantum physics). 
> The book is entitled "The Biology of Belief", by Bruce Lipton, Phd. 
> For what it may be worth, this is the first and only book I have ever 
> publicly 
> touted large numbers to read. You may 
> not be as enthusiastic about it as am I..but I bet you will be (at least 
> the 
> intellectual "envelope pushers" like Marshall Dudley, Ole Bob, Jim Holmes, 
> Mikeand many others). 
> Mine is not a better way, mine is just a different way. My 
> apologies for taking up so much bandwidth with this epistle, but I promise to 
> restrain myself for another year.if I last that long. 
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
> 
> 
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CS>OT: A Shared Reflection

[Brooks Bradley]

   Dear Membership,
As most of you know, from time to time I have an inexplicable 
outbreak of "inchoate 
ramblings"tonight is one of those.  Throughout the immediately-past 55 
years of searching/seeking through scientific/philosophical academia I have, on 
rare occasions, come across a book of unusually powerful dimensions.  I wish to 
share with you, now, such a find.  This brief little book is as startling and 
powerful in impact (at least to me), as any I have ever read--and I have 
read thousands  (as an avid reader for the past 50+ yearsaveraging over 3 
books a week one can see that is no idle statement).  It presents a 
mind-altering proposition relating to the field of Biology.  Written in a prose 
totally understandable to the entire layman audience, its central theme is (to 
me at least) little short of revolutionary.  Dr. Lipton's presentation 
addresses the reigning precepts of the current mainstream
Biological Reductionism.with a frontal attack it cannot withstand.  I do 
not want to spoil any possible "ah-hah" moments by summarizing its contents for 
anyone interested (who has not previously read
it)in reading it.  I will, however, state that his treatment of the dynamics of 
the "CELL" are nothing short of riveting.both in import and clarity of 
explanation.  Were I still teaching in academia, and Biology was my tenured 
subjectI would require all of my students to read this book.  No matter 
what their conclusions might be.the challenges toward independent 
reflection are more than sufficient to justify its reading.  Written in large 
type and only 205 pages in length.it will read faster than   
than the Sports Page in the newspaper.  You will be taken on a fascinating 
journey covering microbiology,  a truly understandable explanation of how 
proteins actually control the movement of life,
(plus illustrations of how it is done), how cells actually "educate 
themselves", how life programs itself:  the true nature and role of DNA (Boy, 
will you be surprised); what is most influential in
controlling the life of the cell (its not what you may have thought) and the 
true brain of the cell.
plus much more of the concepts which have given birth to the entire discipline 
of Epigenetics and the
astounding effects of environment upon the actions of cells. Dr. Lipton's 
comments on the effects of Quantum Physics impacting Biology are, alone, worth 
reading this volume (Actually, he is the ONLY biologist I have known of-who 
possesses an actual working knowledge of quantum physics).
The book is entitled "The Biology of Belief", by Bruce Lipton, Phd. 
 For what it may be worth, this is the first and only book I have ever publicly 
touted large numbers to read.  You may
not be as enthusiastic about it as am I..but I bet you will be (at least 
the intellectual "envelope pushers" like Marshall Dudley, Ole Bob, Jim Holmes, 
Mikeand many others).  
 Mine is not a better way, mine is just a different way.  My 
apologies for taking up so much bandwidth with this epistle, but I promise to 
restrain myself for another year.if I last that long.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 
 

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Re: CS>Kefir

[V]

I have tried the Helios brand whiuch is supposed to be the best and the flavor 
I tried was the vanilal and it seemed very tasty. I had never tried kefir 
before that so have nothing to compare it too. I also added soem Chlorella 
growth factor to it sometimes to make the organisms grow faster. It is supposed 
to increase the growth of the probiotics by about 4 times.






Take care,
 V
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> A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the
> only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I
> didn't like it much...sour and fizzy, but kept trying
> it.  I eventually got to where I actually enjoy the
> peach or strawberry.  My daughter tried some Kefir and
> said it was so bad she couldn't drink it and threw it
> away.  I was surprised.  Yesterday I bought a brand
> that was new to me at the new Whole Foods Market.  I
> tasted it, it was horrible, even though it had a very
> nice peach scent.  Tasted it again and again and hated
> it. I added diced peaches to it and still couldn't
> drink it.  It was Helios brand.  I told my daughter to
> never buy that brand and she said that was the brand
> she'd bought, that in Detroit that was the only brand
> she'd found.  I don't know what gives it that nasty
> taste but I found it totally un-usable.  Anyone who's
> tried Kefir and didn't like it, be sure to try Lifeway
> brand.

> Pat

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RE: CS>cold blister: COMMENT

[Brooks Bradley]

Dear Gwlynda,
 Powdered Lysine is quite water soluble and does not have any bad 
aftertaste (excepting a slightly salty one).  Many people mix 1000 mg with 
their 10 gm of Vitamin C and 1/2 teaspoon of bicarbonae of Soda--- for their 
Pauling/Rath cardio-vascular conditioning protocol (as do I)without any 
unpleasant consequences.  Vitamin C can be purchased in bulk from many internet 
sources.  For smaller quantities we , generally, use Beyond-a-Century.  For 
larger quantities we purchase from a California supplier for about $8.00 per 
pound.including shipping.
  If you must mix the Lysine powder, you might try Gatorade--1/2 
teaspoon Lysine mixed with about 5 ounces of gatorade works well for most.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research 
Foundation. 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave and Gwlynda Irek" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>cold blister: COMMENT
> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:30:15 -0500
> 
> 
> What can you mix with Lysine powder to get it down?
> 
> Thank you for considering Country Ridge Bulldogs!
> 
> Gwlynda Irek
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:10 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>cold blister: COMMENT
> 
>   Dear List Member,
> The clear blisters occurring on the lips are, nearly always,
> herpes simplex.a virus that has demonstrated to be susceptible to
> Colloidal Silver.  However, as some outbreaks present a "streaming effect"
> on occasion.the driving  systemic insult may continue to produce a
> constant replenishment
> of the challenging materials.  There are several protocols which might offer
> a rapid favorable response.
> However, we have found that the inclusion of Lysine becomes the key
> ingredient.  One such protocol involves nothing more than obtaining Lysine
> salve/ointment from your local pharmacy and applying it, liberally, over the
> entire lip surfaceespecially the point of presentation.  Additionally,
> for quick systemic support, ingesting 1000 mg of lysine powder twice daily
> has effected quite rapid responsein those experimental cases where it
> was employed.
>As a general condition, lysine ointment, alone, has given
> (at least for us, in our experimental researches) very acceptable address to
> conditions such as you outline.
> Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: ". ." 
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>cold blister
> > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:57:52 -0400
> >
> >
> > i got a cold sore on my lip three days ago. I've been putting CS 
> > and DMSO on it few time a day for three days and... nothing, 
> > still swollen like I got hit by a heavy wight boxer. I must admit 
> > that the itching symptoms were not there since I started the 
> > application but it's still not going away...?
> >
> >
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Re: CS>CS in your pool/spa

[William Missett]

The Algaebar is too small for a pool.  They're more  spa-sized, and then 
you'd need 2-3 of them to do the job.


We use both the Alagebar and colloidal silver ceramic balls from Monarca (a 
Mexican firm) which are made for cisterns and water tanks.


Monarca's E-mail address is:

monarc...@yahoo.com

Only in Spanish, as far as I know.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: CS>CS in your pool/spa



After reading what can be done using an acquarium to

make bulk CS, I wonder if one of you scientists could
design a floating pool device to put CS into the pool
water <

See:
http://www.algaebar.com/

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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

Most anyone should be able to braze a silver ingot to a copper rod fluxing with 
baking soda and alcohol.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Missett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:47 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS


  An Algaebar is a half-inch round piece of solid copper, about four inches 
long, with a two-inch silver band around the middle.  The two metals interact 
with one another, and produce small amounts of colloidal silver and colloidal 
copper.  They cost about $25 each, but could be made by a silversmith at a much 
lower cost.  
- Original Message - 
From: grace1...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS


Thank you!  What is an Algaebar?

Jill

Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Marshall Dudley]

Dan Nave wrote:

> Marshall,
>
> Have you ever done a calculation using Faraday's equation on your setup
> where you take the total current over time to calculate the total
> released silver in your system and compare it to the that necessary
> (theoretically)  to make the 10 ppm CS, where the difference between the
> two would be losses due to plating out of silver, etc in your system?
>
> If you could do this for reversing vs. non reversing current using the
> same setup, it would be very interesting.
>
> You are doing enough volume so that the differences should be easy to
> see.

Yes I have.  It is pretty close at 5 ppm, maybe 75-80% efficent at 10 ppm,
and drops to about 50% at 20 ppm.  Above 20 ppm, increases in the integrated
current (charge) have little effect on the ppm, that is it tops out pretty
quickly.  If I don't reverse then the efficiencies stay close to 100% for
higher ppms, but I don't have any solid data on that as I determined that
reversing was really necessary pretty early on in the testing.

Marshall

>
>
> Dan
>
> >>> Marshall Dudley  4/28/2006 10:58:32 AM >>>
> You will find a flow through process much more reliable, faster, and
> more
> consistant.  Plus you can easily change the ppm easily by varying the
> flow rate
> when using constanct current.  Using non reversing current, you will
> end up
> with a significant amount of the silver plating out on the cathode,
> and
> eventually breaking loose and falling to the bottom. I would reccomend
> using a
> smaller container, about 1 gallon, flow through processing and a
> reversing
> constant current source. That is what I use to produce 55 gallons at a
> time, at
> the rate of about 1..5 gallon per hour per 10 ppm.
>
> Marshall
>
> HRBE wrote:
>
> > I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.
> >
> > I have come up with the following setup.
> >
> > 1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
> > 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
> > 1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
> > 1 x aquarium water pump
> > 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.
> >
> > I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper
> towel to
> > prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the
> current
> > to 100ma.
> >
> > By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe
> the
> > plate clean.
> >
> > 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which
> reads
> > 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.
> >
> > I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit"
> the
> > process
> >
> > I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am
> building 45
> > volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew
> process
> > time.
> >
> > Hope this is of interest to the group
> >
> > John McLean
> > Australia
> >
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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Dan Nave]

Marshall,

Have you ever done a calculation using Faraday's equation on your setup
where you take the total current over time to calculate the total
released silver in your system and compare it to the that necessary
(theoretically)  to make the 10 ppm CS, where the difference between the
two would be losses due to plating out of silver, etc in your system?

If you could do this for reversing vs. non reversing current using the
same setup, it would be very interesting.

You are doing enough volume so that the differences should be easy to
see.

Dan

>>> Marshall Dudley  4/28/2006 10:58:32 AM >>>
You will find a flow through process much more reliable, faster, and
more
consistant.  Plus you can easily change the ppm easily by varying the
flow rate
when using constanct current.  Using non reversing current, you will
end up
with a significant amount of the silver plating out on the cathode,
and
eventually breaking loose and falling to the bottom. I would reccomend
using a
smaller container, about 1 gallon, flow through processing and a
reversing
constant current source. That is what I use to produce 55 gallons at a
time, at
the rate of about 1..5 gallon per hour per 10 ppm.

Marshall

HRBE wrote:

> I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.
>
> I have come up with the following setup.
>
> 1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
> 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
> 1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
> 1 x aquarium water pump
> 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.
>
> I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper
towel to
> prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the
current
> to 100ma.
>
> By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe
the
> plate clean.
>
> 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which
reads
> 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.
>
> I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit"
the
> process
>
> I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am
building 45
> volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew
process
> time.
>
> Hope this is of interest to the group
>
> John McLean
> Australia
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CS>Instructions to make CS

[Thora Rasmussen]

I have lost the instructions to make a CS generator.  Does someone have the
instructions?

These are the parts that I have:

9 volt batteries
wire
aligator clips with plastic guards
LED lights
9 volt battery snaps 'l' type
heat shrink wire guard
2 Canadian silver dollars
pint and quart jars

If you need more specifics, let me know

Thanks
Thora
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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Grace1way]

Thanks for the links.  What would one use to keep filtered water in a  200 
gallon storage tank free of bacteria or algae.  How about a 5,000  gallon metal 
storage tank?  Neither of these get any light on the inside,  so solar is out. 
 Would the algaebar put out too colloidal copper and  silver into this water 
(drinking water).  Would it be suitable for the  5,000 gallon storage tank?
 
Jill

Re: CS>Kefir

[GMetropulo]

I got an organic kefir from Amish country but my kids hated it.

Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[William Missett]

An Algaebar is a half-inch round piece of solid copper, about four inches long, 
with a two-inch silver band around the middle.  The two metals interact with 
one another, and produce small amounts of colloidal silver and colloidal 
copper.  They cost about $25 each, but could be made by a silversmith at a much 
lower cost.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: grace1...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS


  Thank you!  What is an Algaebar?

  Jill

CS>Re: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[noblemetals]

OK-- I surrender. I use silver plate and silver plated interchangedly in my 
business. I be nary an Anglish major.  TJ
> 
> From: Marshall Dudley 
> Date: 2006/04/28 Fri PM 01:20:15 EDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS
> 
> T J Garland wrote:
> 
> > Interesting -- but  I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of
> > pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are  dissolving the
> > substrate?
> 
> Silver plate is pure silver rolled out in plate form. There is no substrate, 
> it
> will be silver through and through. I use the same thing in my setup.  
> Something
> silver plated is of course a different animal.
> 
> Marshall
> 
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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Marshall Dudley]

It is a bar of copper and silver. It can be found at http://algaebar.com

You might look at http://www.ecosmarteusa.com/

It uses copper instead of silver, and copper has some advantages for
this application, such as no blackening of the pool liner, and it is a
better algaecide than silver. But other than that very similar, and no
chemicals.

Marshall

grace1...@aol.com wrote:

>  Thank you!  What is an Algaebar? Jill

Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[GMetropulo]

I found an ionizer from Zodiac that puts out minimal silver and copper ions 
with a back up of salt. It's called dual care by zodiac and is pricey but less 
maintenace and no chlorine. In humid south florida not too much can  keep 
algae down in pools in the summer.

Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Grace1way]

Thank you!  What is an Algaebar?
 
Jill

Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Marshall Dudley]

T J Garland wrote:

> Interesting -- but  I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of
> pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are  dissolving the
> substrate?

Silver plate is pure silver rolled out in plate form. There is no substrate, it
will be silver through and through. I use the same thing in my setup.  Something
silver plated is of course a different animal.

Marshall



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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Marshall Dudley]

You will find a flow through process much more reliable, faster, and more
consistant.  Plus you can easily change the ppm easily by varying the flow rate
when using constanct current.  Using non reversing current, you will end up
with a significant amount of the silver plating out on the cathode, and
eventually breaking loose and falling to the bottom. I would reccomend using a
smaller container, about 1 gallon, flow through processing and a reversing
constant current source. That is what I use to produce 55 gallons at a time, at
the rate of about 1..5 gallon per hour per 10 ppm.

Marshall

HRBE wrote:

> I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.
>
> I have come up with the following setup.
>
> 1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
> 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
> 1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
> 1 x aquarium water pump
> 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.
>
> I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel to
> prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the current
> to 100ma.
>
> By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the
> plate clean.
>
> 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads
> 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.
>
> I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the
> process
>
> I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45
> volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process
> time.
>
> Hope this is of interest to the group
>
> John McLean
> Australia
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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[William Missett]

I own a Floatron, and it works.  Produces colloidal copper, which in a 
medium-to-large size pool will still require some chlorine.  Also have two 
of the Algaebars.  The Floatron works on solar, so it's pricey -- about 
$300.



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From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS



  Google "Floatron"
 Solar pool ionizer.
 It's been around since the 70s

Ode

At 09:49 PM 4/27/2006 -0400, you wrote:


Hi group:

After reading what can be done using an acquarium to make bulk CS, I 
wonder if one of you scientists could design a floating pool device to put 
CS into the pool water so that one can leave out the chlorine.  Has this 
unit already been designed and is it for sale somewhere?  If it is not 
possible to make one for a pool, how about an outdoor spa?  My husband 
puts an incredible amount of bromine in his.  Seems like CS would be 
safer.  He probably wouldn't monitor the strength, but I could teach him 
how to do it if we get to that point. Since he isn't going to drink it, 
would it matter if it were too strong to drink?  If the answer to this is 
"no", then the only thing to watch would be if it were strong enough...


Jill


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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[Ode Coyote]

  Google "Floatron"
 Solar pool ionizer.
 It's been around since the 70s

Ode

At 09:49 PM 4/27/2006 -0400, you wrote:


Hi group:

After reading what can be done using an acquarium to make bulk CS, I 
wonder if one of you scientists could design a floating pool device to put 
CS into the pool water so that one can leave out the chlorine.  Has this 
unit already been designed and is it for sale somewhere?  If it is not 
possible to make one for a pool, how about an outdoor spa?  My husband 
puts an incredible amount of bromine in his.  Seems like CS would be 
safer.  He probably wouldn't monitor the strength, but I could teach him 
how to do it if we get to that point. Since he isn't going to drink it, 
would it matter if it were too strong to drink?  If the answer to this is 
"no", then the only thing to watch would be if it were strong enough...


Jill


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RE: CS>Kefir

[Heather King (LCA)]

Hi Pat,

 

I just brew my own fresh. It's easy & you control what milk is used to
brew it. I use a local organic whole milk, so I know exactly what's in
there. I do have to add 1/8 - 1/4 C of a commercially made smoothie
(like Tillamook Vanilla Smoothie) for my husband to get it down, but I
love it plain with a 1/4 tsp of cayenne pepper stirred in. YUM!

 

Here's a site where you can read up on making your own if you're
interested & even buy starter babies from the host. He's extremely
knowledgeable about kefir and is generous with advice. His kefir babies
make the smoothest, creamiest, "beer-iest" kefir I've tasted.

 

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

 

Heather

 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:19 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Kefir

 

A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the

only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I

didn't like it much... 

RE: CS>Kefir

[ransley]

Store bought kefir is not kefir at all, it's a fake. If you're in SC, you
can legally by raw milk that has been certified safe for human consumption
by SCDHEC (SC has an excellent program for this), get kefir grains and make
your own. Of course it's still an acquired taste, one which I have totally
acquired. My first exposure to kefir was store bought also, and if that's
all I'd ever had, I wouldn't be drinking it. Now I have to limit drinking
it; I love the stuff.

Right now, my son-in-law, who'd always been told that he was dairy
intolerant, is recovering from a chronic ear infection that the doctors
couldn't cure, that CS didn't cure, by drinking real kefir and eating
homegrown fertilized raw eggs. You're not dairy intolerant until your body
has rejected raw milk (I'd better qualify that to say truly good raw milk)
and even then, you can most likely drink kefir, because the kefir grains
convert lactose to lactic acid, B vitamins and some kind of good sugar that
I can't remember the name of right now.

The statement that CS didn't cure it is not meant to disparage CS, which is
a staple in this house (and I've bought generators for my married children).
I think some of the failures of CS and many other therapies are attributable
to the terrible nutritional quality of our US food supply that is grown for
nothing but pretty and profit.

Daddybob




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From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Kefir

A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the only brand I've seen in
any stores here in SC. I didn't like it much...sour and fizzy, but kept
trying it.  I eventually got to where I actually enjoy the peach or
strawberry.  My daughter tried some Kefir and said it was so bad she
couldn't drink it and threw it away.  I was surprised.  Yesterday I bought a
brand that was new to me at the new Whole Foods Market.  I tasted it, it was
horrible, even though it had a very nice peach scent.  Tasted it again and
again and hated it. I added diced peaches to it and still couldn't drink it.
It was Helios brand.  I told my daughter to never buy that brand and she
said that was the brand she'd bought, that in Detroit that was the only
brand she'd found.  I don't know what gives it that nasty taste but I found
it totally un-usable.  Anyone who's tried Kefir and didn't like it, be sure
to try Lifeway brand.

Pat

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CS>CS in your pool/spa

[Terry Chamberlin]

> After reading what can be done using an acquarium to
make bulk CS, I wonder if one of you scientists could
design a floating pool device to put CS into the pool
water <

See:
http://www.algaebar.com/

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CS>New Group

[SMax]

 
Description 
 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TIMEWAVEZERO2012 
 
 
The Singularity, the Quickening, the Cosmogenesis, a period of exponential
change - the New Age, the New World Order, Times of High Strangeness - it
seems that we are in the throes of a Global Paradigm Shift. 
 
This is a time where technological and global changes are happening faster
than we can track them. The convergence of science and 'metaphysics' is
gathering towards some kind of critical mass. Information Technology and
Artificial Intelligence are on the cutting edge of Accelerating Change. 
 
Is the human race evolving into some kind of 'biotech' hybrid? Or has Nature
outpaced us? Is the 'roar of approaching cataracts' of our own making - or
is it simply the clockwork of the Cosmos? 
 
This group focuses on the Mayan Long Count and Terence McKenna's Time Wave
Zero, both of which culminate on Dec. 21, 2012 - but other topics are
frequently discussed **as long as they do not interrupt the normal flow of
dialogue**. 
 
***CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND POLITICKING ARE STRONGLY DISCOURAGED*** 
 
THIS GROUP IS ABOUT SELF-DISCOVERY AND SELF-LIBERATION, not about how we are
being victimized and oppressed by 'the government' or some other 'secret'
organization. I should also add that I'm NOT a great fan of 'channelers' or
any discarnate beings urging us to "relinquish control to the "Higher Will".

 
But back to the question - are we heading for a Singularity? Physical evidence 
points to the facts that the earth's magnetic field has weakened by 8% in the 
past 150 years, the sun's coronal magnetic flux has doubled in the past 
century, and the magnetic north pole has moved 1,000 km in the past 100 years. 
The last sunspot cycle ended with two of the biggest flares in history, and the 
second highest sunspot count on record. The next solar max will be in 2012, the 
year of the Global Shift, the extinction of Time Wave Zero, the end of the 
Mayan Long Count. Where will you be in 2012?


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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[John McLean]

Right Mike, thanks for the defence!! You are correct, see my previous 
post!!!

John
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From: "M. G. Devour" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS



TJ,

I interpret John's post to mean a 36 square inch plate of 99.99% pure
silver. (Maybe a 6 x 6 inch piece of sheet stock?) So I wouldn't worry
about him if I were you. 

You're correct, of course, not to use "silver plate" -- ie something
that has been *plated* with silver. That's almost always not a pure
alloy, but rather Sterling or similar, that has significant nickel or
other components that are toxic. Plus, there's the chance of wearing
through to the base-metal, which could be anything...

So, use a plate of pure silver if you want, but not something that's
*plated* with silver! 

Be well,

Mike D.


Interesting -- but  I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of
pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are  dissolving the
substrate?  If you feel safe with your sheet-I just bought 25 lb. roll
of brand new sterling foil -92.5 Ag/7.5 Cu for scrap-16" wide It is as
thick as heavy aluminum foil. I am trying to find a use for it.   TJ


- Original Message - 
From: "HRBE" 

To: 
Subject: CS>Re: Bulk CS


> I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.
>
> I have come up with the following setup.
>
> 1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
> 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
> 1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
> 1 x aquarium water pump
> 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.


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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[John McLean]

Sorry I mislead you, it is 99.99% pure solid silver in plate form, 3 mm 
thick, not PLATED SILVER.


I figured if Bob Berger used a brass cathode in a rod form, the brass plate 
the same area as the silver anode would make the CS faster and it did.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "T J Garland" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS



Interesting -- but  I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of
pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are  dissolving the
substrate?  If you feel safe with your sheet-I just bought 25 lb. roll of
brand new sterling foil -92.5 Ag/7.5 Cu for scrap-16" wide It is as thick 
as

heavy aluminum foil. I am trying to find a use for it.   TJ Garland  Noble
Metals, Inc.
- Original Message -
From: "HRBE" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:40 PM
Subject: CS>Re: Bulk CS



I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.

I have come up with the following setup.

1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
1 x aquarium water pump
1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.

I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel

to

prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the

current

to 100ma.

By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the
plate clean.

8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads
25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.

I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the
process

I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45
volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process
time.

Hope this is of interest to the group

John McLean
Australia



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Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS

[John McLean]

The brass plate is the cathode, so it isn't sacrificial, and no the paper 
towelling, the type used in the kitchen, will not affect it.
I soaked them for 5 days in distilled water to see what would happen, and the 
paper stayed intact, and checking the TDS reading, made no difference at all
John
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  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS


  wow.
   Why the brass plate.  Why wouldn't the paper towel contaminate the solution.

  HRBE  wrote:
I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.

I have come up with the following setup.

1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
1 x aquarium water pump
1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.

I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel to 
prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the current 
to 100ma.

By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the 
plate clean.

8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads 
25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.

I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the 
process

I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45 
volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process 
time.

Hope this is of interest to the group

John McLean
Australia



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Re: CS>cold blister

[epatai]

I'm not sure if it's heat that is being released which is being witnessed.
DMSO is a hydroscopic solvent. it attract moisture of any sort. I noticed 
this when I got out of a hot shower and opened a jar. What I noticed was 
vapor being emitted from the container.Or so it seemed. The vapor was being 
drawn to the container. Now since it wasn't mixed with anything. I could 
only conclude that the steam was showing the ability of the solvent to 
attract moisture. This is why DMSO is so effective. As it is applied to the 
skin it will move towards a source of water. Our bodies being mainly water 
makes for a good destination. and because it is a great transporter, it 
takes everything along with it if we aren't careful. :-)


Ernie


From: Tad Winiecki 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cold blister
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:38:08 -0700

How much CS per how much DMSO do you use?  I assume you mix them not use
the DMSO straight?  Straight DMSO will cause terrible blistering in my
experience.  Diluted to 10% DMSO with 90% CS doesn't cause any skin
reaction for me, I don't know at what dilution it starts to cause
blistering and irritation.  Also, they should be mixed by adding DMSO to
the CS, not the other way around if I remember correctly, as a chemical
reaction releasing heat will occur.

Nancy

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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:11 -0400
From: ". ." 

i'm using a 22ppm CS available at health stores, DMSO is a 99%
concentration. Both applied liberaly on the blister and around.



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Re: CS>cold blister

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I'm not sure if it's heat that is being released which is being witnessed.
DMSO is a hydroscopic solvent. it attract



From: Tad Winiecki 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cold blister
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:38:08 -0700

How much CS per how much DMSO do you use?  I assume you mix them not use
the DMSO straight?  Straight DMSO will cause terrible blistering in my
experience.  Diluted to 10% DMSO with 90% CS doesn't cause any skin
reaction for me, I don't know at what dilution it starts to cause
blistering and irritation.  Also, they should be mixed by adding DMSO to
the CS, not the other way around if I remember correctly, as a chemical
reaction releasing heat will occur.

Nancy

--
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:11 -0400
From: ". ." 

i'm using a 22ppm CS available at health stores, DMSO is a 99%
concentration. Both applied liberaly on the blister and around.



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