Re: CSCS on plants

2006-06-09 Thread Gertrude


Yes Pat my plants  indoors like CS  toomuch more flowers...how is it 
possible...so nice!!!

Trudy




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Re: CSFood poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

2006-06-09 Thread aKa Jhon
,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations???


- Original Message - 
From: Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com

 Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low as 3 ppm 
 were effective, but rather large volumes were required for rapid-onset 
 positive results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed by another 10 
 ounces in approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response WAS NOT a direct 
 effect of linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 ppm CS yielded favorable 
 results 4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm concentrations...for equivalent 
 volumetric measure.  

Re: CSFood poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

2006-06-09 Thread William Missett
CS works.
  - Original Message - 
  From: aKa Jhon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSFood poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT


  ,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations???


  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com

   Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low as 3 ppm 
were effective, but rather large volumes were required for rapid-onset positive 
results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed by another 10 ounces in 
approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response WAS NOT a direct effect of 
linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 ppm CS yielded favorable results 4X 
as rapidly, as did 2 ppm concentrations...for equivalent volumetric 
measure.  

CSBrooks Bradley posts

2006-06-09 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Because there are no archives anymore for the
silver-list, with great loss of valuable wisdom and
information that various members posted here, I
discover I am grateful that I did something.

I have been collecting posts from Brooks Bradley since
January of '01. I have not collected all of his posts,
just the ones that interested me, but there is still
one megabyte (hundreds of pages, I would estimate) of
MSWord files on my hard drive. I have compressed them
into one zip file and added it to my regular
'AltHealthInfo' file that I send to folks who request
it.

There is alot of interesting and educational reading
in his posts, comments on a wide variety of topics; I
have referred to them on many occasions for my own
personal use. The posts are mostly not edited nor
corrected nor justified, just copied and pasted right
from the List, including all the  you find in
posts on the List.

If you are interested in receiving these files, let me
know and I will send them to you.

It would be best if you contacted me directly, rather
than clutter up the silver-list with requests.

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0
902-584-3810
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Re: CSFood poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

2006-06-09 Thread Ode Coyote

At 11:26 AM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:


Ode Coyote wrote:

 If an ion selective probe is used to find ionic silver in the blood and
 none is found...and AgCl is at least partially ionic...what IS in there vs
 the assertion of what's not?
   The rest of the story has never been told.

 Ode

AgCl will move into the blood stream where it is reduced to silver 
particles.  If
you have any colloidal component in the blood, then it plates out on them, 
if you
do not, then it photoreduces in the skin, and plates out on them, in some 
cases
causing argyria (which is why AgCl alone causes argyria, but when part of 
EIS in
the stomach does not).  It is completely expected that little or no ionic 
silver
will be found in the blood, any more than ionic silver will be found in a 
developed

photograph.

Marshall



 ## I'm familiar with the theory and it sounds reasonable.
 Has this ever been tested?

Then, so many  mainstream scientific types concentrate and focus on getting 
silver particles to release ions...for some reason.
 Could a pathogen act something like an ion exchange resin and provide 
such a short pathway so as to make ions undetectable?


If particles provide the means, ions form particles, particle are 
particles, particles release ions and ions do the job, then both sides of 
the issue are correct...with bits and ions of story missing in order to 
provide us all with something to argue about.


Ode




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Re: CSfood poisoning What did TaiPan say?

2006-06-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
brick...@aol.com wrote:

  In a message dated 6/8/2006 10:25:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

  Bob Lee AKA TaiPan posted this some time ago

 .Robert A Lee a cousin to R E Lee is my in-law. At the time when
 he posted his study I had a hunch that he was acting like some of my
 cousins.

How could someone alive today be a cousin to a commander in chief in the
Civil war?

Marshall


Re: CSfood poisoning What did TaiPan say?

2006-06-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

At 05:06 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:

In a message dated 6/8/2006 10:25:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

Bob Lee AKA TaiPan posted this some time ago

.Robert A Lee a cousin to R E Lee is my in-law. At the time when he 
posted his study I had a hunch that he was acting like some of my cousins.


  I obtained permission to make a web page from his article.   Have tried 
to contact him more recently and was not able to do so.



If anyone missed it or wants a copy,  here is the link.

Sorry I was a bit mixed up.   The web page is his great article 
on  sweat,   lots of cell chemistry.


http://www.fugitt.com/files/sweat_01.doc

I do have his post on the food poisoning.

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Re: CSFood poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

2006-06-09 Thread Dan Nave

aKa Jhon wrote:

 */ ,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations??? /*

 */ - Original Message - /*
 */ From: Brooks Bradley  /**/ brooks76...@lycos.com /*
 mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com*/  /*

 Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low
 as 3 ppm were effective, but rather large volumes were required for
 rapid-onset positive results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed
 by another 10 ounces in approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response
 WAS NOT a direct effect of linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10
 ppm CS yielded favorable results 4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm
 concentrations...for equivalent volumetric measure.




I'll take a stab...

For food poisoning from bad food that has been eaten:

1.  Actual tests were performed to get this information.

2.  Low concentrations of Colloidal Silver (CS) are effective.
(As low as 2 or 3 ppm)

3.  If low doses of CS are used, then the volume (ounces) of CS used
must be increased so that you get more total silver content.

4.  To be effective, the volume used for 3ppm CS was 10 ounces right away ,
followed 20 minutes later by another 20 ounces.

5.  If you used the same amount of 5ppm and 10ppm CS, the results from using
the 10ppm would be *more* than doubled.  If you doubled the volume of the
5ppm CS so it had the same silver content as the 10ppm CS in the original
volume, they would work the same.

Dan


aKa Jhon wrote:


*/ ,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations??? /*
*/ /* 
 
*/ - Original Message - /*
*/ From: Brooks Bradley  /**/ brooks76...@lycos.com /* 
mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com*/  /*
*/ /* 
*/  Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low 
as 3 ppm were effective, but rather large volumes were required for 
rapid-onset positive results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed 
by another 10 ounces in approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response 
WAS NOT a direct effect of linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 
ppm CS yielded favorable results 4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm 
concentrations...for equivalent volumetric measure.  /*





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CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread debbiegerard99
Here's a question,
Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning?
The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends to get 
a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and unable to 
turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say the least 
because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I lacking in 
something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie

Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread V
Hi debbiegerard99,

the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of magnesium 
that helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm




Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 Here's a question,
 Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning?
 The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends
 to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and
 unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say
 the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I
 lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie

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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread debbiegerard99
Thanks VI have lost the natural curve in my neck due to whiplash, do 
excersise, have a special pillowdo you still think the magnesium will help 
if it will help even with the curve gone I certainly try itthanks 
again...debbie

-- Original message -- 
From: V vzo...@yahoo.com 

 Hi debbiegerard99, 
 
 the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of magnesium 
 that 
 helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm 
 
 
 
 
 Take care, 
 V 
 http://www.health-freedom.info/ 
 
  Here's a question, 
  Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning? 
  The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends 
  to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and 
  unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say 
  the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I 
  lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie 
 
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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Manganese is important here as well.

- Original Message - 
From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
To: debbiegerar...@comcast.net silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??


 Hi debbiegerard99,

 the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of
magnesium that helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural
Calm
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm




 Take care,
  V
 http://www.health-freedom.info/

  Here's a question,
  Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the
morning?
  The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends
  to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and
  unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to
say
  the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I
  lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie

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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread debbiegerard99

Would both aid in maybe helping with the lack of the curve in the neck? thanks 
again debbie
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From: James McCourt, Ph.D. dr...@earthlink.net 

 Manganese is important here as well. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: V 
 To: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:02 AM 
 Subject: Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ?? 
 
 
  Hi debbiegerard99, 
  
  the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of 
 magnesium that helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural 
 Calm 
  http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm 
  
  
  
  
  Take care, 
  V 
  http://www.health-freedom.info/ 
  
   Here's a question, 
   Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the 
 morning? 
   The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends 
   to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and 
   unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to 
 say 
   the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I 
   lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie 
  
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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread V
Hi debbiegerard99,

Well magnesium works to relax muscles so if your ilignment is out the muscels 
will tend to tighten up and pull on things so they get sore from over 
contracting. the magnesium sholud allow them to relax a bit more and not be so 
sore. you might find somebody that can do some good massage to release the 
muscles also, there are some techniques that can get it all back in alignment.




Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 Thanks VI have lost the natural curve in my neck due to whiplash, do
 excersise, have a special pillowdo you still think the magnesium will
 help if it will help even with the curve gone I certainly try itthanks 
 again...debbie

 -- Original message -- 
 From: V vzo...@yahoo.com 

 Hi debbiegerard99, 
 
 the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of magnesium 
 that 
 helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm 
 
 
 
 
 Take care, 
 V 
 http://www.health-freedom.info/ 
 
  Here's a question, 
  Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning? 
  The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends 
  to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and 
  unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say 
  the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I 
  lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie 
 
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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread Gertrude
Debbie hello,
Turn your head slowly 3 times to the right en 3 times to the left...and also 3 
times ...slowly ...up en down...

This will help.exercises...slow ...down.

SUKSESS and have a nice weekend,
Trudy
  - Original Message - 
  From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??


  Thanks VI have lost the natural curve in my neck due to whiplash, do 
excersise, have a special pillowdo you still think the magnesium will help 
if it will help even with the curve gone I certainly try itthanks 
again...debbie

-- Original message -- 
From: V vzo...@yahoo.com 

 Hi debbiegerard99, 
 
 the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of 
magnesium that 
 helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm 
 
 
 
 
 Take care, 
 V 
 http://www.health-freedom.info/ 
 
  Here's a question, 
  Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the 
morning? 
  The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck 
tends 
  to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck 
and 
  unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to 
say 
  the least because I almos! t have no control in the urge to 
stretch...am I 
  lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie 
 
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CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread bernadette
I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile or 
C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace with 
probiotics?  

This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up this 
bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time recovering 
and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely ill.

All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

Bernadette
bernade...@pa.net

CSunsubscribe

2006-06-09 Thread MATTHEW ARNOLD



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CS Science project

2006-06-09 Thread larry tankersley
 For the past 16 days I've watered two Irish ivy cuttings; one with water 
brought to a hard boil in a 500W microwave and one with water brought to a hard 
boil on an electric stove top. 
 A glass container was used for both. Each plant was planted in the same size 
and type pot with Scotts metro mix 200 growing media. Each was watered once 
every 3 days with 1/4 cup from identical storage containers. This was/is a 
blind study as I still don't know which plant is getting which water. As of day 
16 both plants are doing equally well. I have not been able to repeat the 
results of the science project reported on the silver-list.
 I'm wondering if anyone else has tried to replicate the original findings. 

larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA



Re: CSfood poisoning What did TaiPan say?

2006-06-09 Thread Brickeyk
In a message dated 6/9/2006 7:34:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:
How could someone alive today be a cousin to a commander in chief in the 
Civil war
R A Lee was the husband of my 3rd great aunt, several past generations. This 
is from checking on roots ancestory. They are not alive today.
Brickey


Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread Ian Roe
Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate yeast 
overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics before 
during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you mentioned. 
some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other antibiotics. It 
like anything else has side effects and interactions but I don't think the CS 
will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem with CS killing good 
bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise any more than a 
passing concern about this. 

Ian
  - Original Message - 
  From: bernadette 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
  Subject: CSquestion


  I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile or 
C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
  Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace with 
probiotics?  

  This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up this 
bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time recovering 
and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely ill.

  All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

  Bernadette
  bernade...@pa.net

CSnon flushing niacin

2006-06-09 Thread Teri Johnston
I know this has been covered before.  So sorry for asking but without 
and archive  Can anyone recommend a good brand or web site for 
non flushing niacin?


Teri


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Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread bernadette
Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.

Bernadette
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Roe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate yeast 
overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics before 
during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you mentioned. 
some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other antibiotics. It 
like anything else has side effects and interactions but I don't think the CS 
will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem with CS killing good 
bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise any more than a 
passing concern about this. 

  Ian
- Original Message - 
From: bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: CSquestion


I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile or 
C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace 
with probiotics?  

This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up this 
bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time recovering 
and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely ill.

All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

Bernadette
bernade...@pa.net

CSniacin

2006-06-09 Thread zeb caffe
You want the naicinamine form(not sure if that is spelled right) it is alot 
easier to tolerate than niacin. YOu can get it at any health food store. If you 
havent tried it before, you would want to start at a low dose as some people 
report allergic reactions.
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Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread William Missett
Flagyl is a rough drug to be giving any one, let alone someone as stressed as 
she.  Down here it is used only for the worst parasites, which are plentiful 
during rainy season, which is now  

Most of the parasite victins down here are in pretty good shape otherwise, in 
relatively good health except for their houseguests.  

It's so rough I know people flatly refuse to take it because of its known toxic 
side effects, which do not affect everyone.  I would not administer it 
casually, no more than absolutely necessary, and watch for negative reactions. 
(Sorry I don't know what they are, other than extreme intestinal distress.)

I'm in southern Mexico, the almost tropics.
  - Original Message - 
  From: bernadette 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.

  Bernadette
- Original Message - 
From: Ian Roe 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion


Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate 
yeast overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics 
before during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you 
mentioned. some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other 
antibiotics. It like anything else has side effects and interactions but I 
don't think the CS will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem 
with CS killing good bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise 
any more than a passing concern about this. 

Ian
  - Original Message - 
  From: bernadette 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
  Subject: CSquestion


  I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile or 
C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
  Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace 
with probiotics?  

  This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up 
this bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time 
recovering and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely 
ill.

  All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

  Bernadette
  bernade...@pa.net

CSRe CS: Muscle stretch

2006-06-09 Thread Harold MacDonald
Try a hot bath with lots of Epsom Salts in the water;about 2 or 3 cups.before 
bed.Soak in it until cool.
ES is Magnesium Sulfate.
Harold
























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Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread bernadette
Thank you William - I will pass on this information.


  - Original Message - 
  From: William Missett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Flagyl is a rough drug to be giving any one, let alone someone as stressed as 
she.  Down here it is used only for the worst parasites, which are plentiful 
during rainy season, which is now  

  Most of the parasite victins down here are in pretty good shape otherwise, in 
relatively good health except for their houseguests.  

  It's so rough I know people flatly refuse to take it because of its known 
toxic side effects, which do not affect everyone.  I would not administer it 
casually, no more than absolutely necessary, and watch for negative reactions. 
(Sorry I don't know what they are, other than extreme intestinal distress.)

  I'm in southern Mexico, the almost tropics.
- Original Message - 
From: bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion


Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.

Bernadette
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Roe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate 
yeast overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics 
before during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you 
mentioned. some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other 
antibiotics. It like anything else has side effects and interactions but I 
don't think the CS will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem 
with CS killing good bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise 
any more than a passing concern about this. 

  Ian
- Original Message - 
From: bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: CSquestion


I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile 
or C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to 
replace with probiotics?  

This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up 
this bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time 
recovering and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely 
ill.

All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

Bernadette
bernade...@pa.net

Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread bernadette
Thank you - I will forward your information along to her.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Missett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Flagyl is a rough drug to be giving any one, let alone someone as stressed as 
she.  Down here it is used only for the worst parasites, which are plentiful 
during rainy season, which is now  

  Most of the parasite victins down here are in pretty good shape otherwise, in 
relatively good health except for their houseguests.  

  It's so rough I know people flatly refuse to take it because of its known 
toxic side effects, which do not affect everyone.  I would not administer it 
casually, no more than absolutely necessary, and watch for negative reactions. 
(Sorry I don't know what they are, other than extreme intestinal distress.)

  I'm in southern Mexico, the almost tropics.
- Original Message - 
From: bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion


Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.

Bernadette
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Roe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CSquestion


  Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate 
yeast overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics 
before during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you 
mentioned. some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other 
antibiotics. It like anything else has side effects and interactions but I 
don't think the CS will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem 
with CS killing good bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise 
any more than a passing concern about this. 

  Ian
- Original Message - 
From: bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: CSquestion


I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile 
or C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have 
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her 
question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the 
Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to 
replace with probiotics?  

This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up 
this bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time 
recovering and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her extremely 
ill.

All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

Bernadette
bernade...@pa.net

RE: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Holmes
William's advice is excellent. 

 

Look it up in the PDR.  It is a very dangerous substance. 

 

From: William Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSquestion

 

Flagyl is a rough drug to be giving any one, let alone someone as stressed
as she.  Down here it is used only for the worst parasites, which are
plentiful during rainy season, which is now  

 

Most of the parasite victins down here are in pretty good shape otherwise,
in relatively good health except for their houseguests.  

 

It's so rough I know people flatly refuse to take it because of its known
toxic side effects, which do not affect everyone.  I would not administer it
casually, no more than absolutely necessary, and watch for negative
reactions. (Sorry I don't know what they are, other than extreme intestinal
distress.)

 

I'm in southern Mexico, the almost tropics.

- Original Message - 

From: bernadette mailto:bernade...@pa.net  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:24 PM

Subject: Re: CSquestion

 

Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.

 

Bernadette

- Original Message - 

From: Ian Roe mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: CSquestion

 

Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to eradicate
yeast overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She probably had antibiotics
before during and after the surgery and now is having to take the drug you
mentioned. some MDs even give it prophylactically along with the other
antibiotics. It like anything else has side effects and interactions but I
don't think the CS will interact with anything.  I have never had a problem
with CS killing good bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list
raise any more than a passing concern about this. 

 

Ian

- Original Message - 

From: bernadette mailto:bernade...@pa.net  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM

Subject: CSquestion

 

I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile or
C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  I have
given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.
Her question is how much should she take?  Will it interact/react with the
Metronidazole?

Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace
with probiotics?  

 

This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up this
bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time
recovering and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her
extremely ill.

 

All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

 

Bernadette

bernade...@pa.net



Re: CSnon flushing niacin

2006-06-09 Thread starshar

From: Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:20 PM

I know this has been covered before.  So sorry for asking but without and 
archive  Can anyone recommend a good brand or web site for non flushing 
niacin?


Hi Teri,

Both TwinLabs and Source Naturals would be good for niacinamide. I know TL 
makes it in capsule form, which I prefer.

Almost every supplement company in existence will carry niacinamide!

Many, many sites on the web would carry these---iherb, Vitacost, 
VitaminShoppes, spring to mind.


Sharon 



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Re: CS Science project

2006-06-09 Thread sol
Yes, I have tried to replicate it.  Haven't reported yet as I have a 
control version coming along.
In my original, I used water boiled on the stove in a ceramic pan, and 
in the microwave in a glass measuring cup. I used a digital thermometer 
to boil them to the same temperature. I also did distilled water.


I used cucumber seeds in pop up peat pots, each soaked and expanded in 
it's own water. I did my best to plant the seeds to the same depth. This 
was not a blind experiment. The stove water seeds sprouted earliest, by 
two days, but other than that there has been absolutely no difference in 
size of cotelydons, or in color or vigor of the sprouts. Each little 
peat pot was thinned to two sprouts and they are now happily growing on 
my porch in bigger pots. At the point of transplanting I ceased the 
experiment, and all are now watered with tap water, and doing great, 
though the stove water sprouts are still a teeny bit ahead of the other 
two, it just is not a really obvious difference at all. You have to look 
closely. I don't feel there is much if any importance in the stove 
watered seeds sprouting first, as I have done seed startings in the past 
with usually 6 pots of the same seeds, and even when watered with the 
same water from the get go,  one or more pots will often sprout earlier 
than the others and thrive better too.


Originally I had intended to use purchased plants for my trial, but 
could not find even two sufficiently the same size and condition.

sol

larry tankersley wrote:

For the past 16 days I've watered two Irish ivy cuttings; one with 
water brought to a hard boil in a 500W microwave and one with water 
brought to a hard boil on an electric stove top.
A glass container was used for both. Each plant was planted in the 
same size and type pot with Scotts metro mix 200 growing media. Each 
was watered once every 3 days with 1/4 cup from identical storage 
containers. This was/is a blind study as I still don't know which 
plant is getting which water. As of day 16 both plants are doing 
equally well. I have not been able to repeat the results of the 
science project reported on the silver-list.
I'm wondering if anyone else has tried to replicate the original 
findings.


larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA



 




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Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread Dan Nave

bernadette wrote:


Thank you Ian.  I will forward all answers directly to my friend.
 
Bernadette


- Original Message -
*From:* Ian Roe mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSquestion

Flagyl, or Metronizadole is an antifungal medication given to
eradicate yeast overgrowth after receiving antibiotics.  She
probably had antibiotics before during and after the surgery and now
is having to take the drug you mentioned. some MDs even give it
prophylactically along with the other antibiotics. It like anything
else has side effects and interactions but I don't think the CS will
interact with anything.  I have never had a problem with CS killing
good bacteria and I don't ever recall anyone on the list raise any
more than a passing concern about this.
 
Ian


- Original Message -
*From:* bernadette mailto:bernade...@pa.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 PM
*Subject:* CSquestion

I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium
Difficile or C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to
kill the bacteria.  I have given her two quarts of freshly made
CS today with a strength of 12 ppm's.  Her question is how much
should she take?  Will it interact/react with the Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to
replace with probiotics? 
 
This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she

picked up this bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a
very difficult time recovering and the Metronidazole is acting
like chemo and making her extremely ill.
 
All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.
 
Bernadette
bernade...@pa.net mailto:bernade...@pa.net 


That information doesn't sound right to me.  However, here is an description of 
the drug.
I had Flagyl for giardia and the taste of it will immediately make you want to 
vomit... ;-))
Seemed to work though.  This was a long time before I knew about CS.  I would 
certainly try
CS on it if it was me.  I've never heard of CS interfering with any medication.

Dan



http://www.medicinenet.com/metronidazole/article.htm

GENERIC NAME: metronidazole
BRAND NAME: Flagyl
DRUG CLASS AND MECHANISM: Metronidazole is an antibiotic effective against anaerobic bacteria and 
certain parasites. Anaerobic bacteria are single-cell living organisms that thrive in low oxygen 
environments and can cause disease in the abdomen (bacterial peritonitis) liver (liver abscess), and 
pelvis ( abscess of the ovaries and the fallopian tubes). Giardia lamblia and ameba are parasites 
that can cause abdominal pain and chronic diarrhea in infected individuals. Metronidazole 
selectively blocks some of the cell functions in these microorganisms, resulting in their demise.


PRESCRIPTION: yes

GENERIC AVAILABLE: yes

PREPARATIONS: Tablets: 250mg, 500mg.

STORAGE: Metronidazole should be stored at room temperature and protected from 
light.

PRESCRIBED FOR: Metronidazole is used to treat giardia infections of the small intestines, amebic 
liver abscess and dysentery (amebic colon infection causing bloody diarrhea), trichomonas vaginal 
infections, and carriers of trichomonas (both sexual partners) who do not have symptoms of 
infection. Metronidazole is also used alone or in combination with other antibiotics in treating 
abscesses in the liver, pelvis, abdomen and brain caused by susceptible anaerobic bacteria. 
Metronidazole is also used in treating colon infection caused by a bacteria called C. difficile. 
Many commonly used antibiotics can alter the normal type of bacteria that inhabit the colon. C. 
difficile is an anaerobic bacteria that can infect the colon when the normal bacteria types of the 
colon are altered by common antibiotics. This leads to inflammation of the colon (pseudomembranous 
colitis) with severe diarrhea and abdominal pain.


DOSING: Metronidazole may be taken with or without food. In the hospital, metronidazole can be 
administered intravenously to treat serious infections. Metronidazole is metabolized mainly by the 
liver and dosages may need to be reduced in patients with abnormal liver function.


DRUG INTERACTIONS: Alcohol should be avoided because metronidazole and alcohol together can cause 
severe nausea, vomiting, cramps, flushing, and headache. Metronidazole can increase the blood 
thinning effects of warfarin (Coumadin) and increase the risk of bleeding. Cimetidine (Tagamet) 
increases the blood level of metronidazole.


PREGNANCY: Metronidazole is not used in early pregnancy because of potential adverse effects on the 
babies.


NURSING MOTHERS: Metronidazole is not used by nursing 

Re: CSquestion

2006-06-09 Thread Dan Nave
Clostridium difficile (C. difficile) is a bacterium that is related to the bacterium that cause 
tetanus and botulism.


This implies that the protocol which has just been talked about for food 
poisoning should be
suitable for this as well.

Dan



http://www.medicinenet.com/clostridium_difficile_colitis/article.htm

What is Clostridium difficile colitis (C. difficile)?

Clostridium difficile (C. difficile) is a bacterium that is related to the bacterium that cause 
tetanus and botulism. The C. difficile bacterium has two forms, an active, infectious form that 
cannot survive in the environment for prolonged periods, and a nonactive, “noninfectious” form, 
called a spore, that can survive in the environment for prolonged periods. Although spores cannot 
cause infection directly, when they are ingested they transform into the active, infectious form.


C. difficile spores are found frequently in hospitals, nursing homes, extended care facilities, and 
nurseries for newborn infants. They can be found on bedpans, furniture, toilet seats, linens, 
telephones, stethoscopes, fingernails, rings, floors, infants’ rooms, and diaper pails. They even 
can be carried by pets. Thus, these environments are a ready source for infection with C. difficile.


What is Clostridium difficile (C. difficile) colitis?

Antibiotic-associated (C. difficile) colitis is an infection of the colon caused by C. difficile 
that occurs primarily among individuals who have been using antibiotics. It is the most common 
infection acquired by patients while they are in the hospital. More than three million C. difficile 
infections occur in hospitals in the US each year. After a stay of only two days in a hospital, 10% 
of patients will develop infection with C. difficile. C. difficile also may be acquired outside of 
hospitals in the community. It is estimated that 20,000 infections with C. difficile occur in the 
community each year in the U.S.



bernadette wrote:


I have a dear friend who has been diagnosed with Clostridium Difficile 
or C-Diff.  She has been prescribed Metronidazole to kill the bacteria.  
I have given her two quarts of freshly made CS today with a strength of 
12 ppm's.  Her question is how much should she take?  Will it 
interact/react with the Metronidazole?
Will the CS kill any of the good bacteria she has been trying to replace 
with probiotics? 
 
This appeared after she had a colonoscopy.   Apparently she picked up 
this bacteria after the procedure.  She is having a very difficult time 
recovering and the Metronidazole is acting like chemo and making her 
extremely ill.
 
All suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.
 
Bernadette

bernade...@pa.net mailto:bernade...@pa.net




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