RE: CS>PPM Meter ?

2006-11-10 Thread Peter M. Stellas
Greetings Wayne,

The equation would logically appear to be the most accurate way to determine
PPM, but since we are not calculating thrust,  escape velocity and such, and
since I do hold down a full-time job, the PPM meter gives a fairly good idea
of the quality of the CS mixture. 

Because I do not have controlled current I just let the process go until I
have attained between 10 and 13 PPM then stop it. My concern is particle
size and the brew that I made yesterday was around 11 PPM and had a very
weak Tyndall effect, was clear with few sparklies, so I think that I got a
good result. Now I will just experiment with different generator
configurations and eventually will probably buy one of the ready made units
that are offered on the market. 

Before starting the brew I did measure the PPM of the DW and it was about
2.5 or so. I will see if I can get it elsewhere to find better purity, but I
have my doubts.

Peter
 

 



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RE: CS>Clear, clear water and a question

2006-11-10 Thread Peter M. Stellas
How would you use the voltmeter to monitor conductivity? I would like to
know such a process. Also, can you tell me how to hook up the ammeter in the
system so that I can monitor current? Thanks

Peter
 

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   You can't really use time alone to predict PPM.
  Only slightly purer water can make a really big difference to get to the 
same stopping point

Best bet is to get a conductivity meter
  Next best , a PPM/TDS meter
Or even just an volt meter [multi meter ]

"Some" way to tell where you are in the process.

ode



At 11:03 AM 11/9/2006 -0400, you wrote:





>My respected and beloved C S Forum Friends!
>
>
>
>After four years of happily and a bit proudly making my own Colloidal 
>Silver at home, and thriving by it for our health, giving it or selling it 
>to clients and friends, truth came up a few days ago:
>
>The water I have been using (Spa water) was okay, but not the best in the 
>world. The result was always a grayish mist, and it tasted strongly. Yet, 
>I only rejected it if there would be a yellowish cloud on the bottom of 
>the glass I make my water in. Then, I would use it for external things 
>like plants, animals and wounds. For the remainder cleanliness has been 
>our lead since day one.
>
>
>
>Now, an importer imported "le Bleu" ('the Blue' ­ not that movie). It is 
>absolutely clean (distilled) water, for drinking purposes. A 
>friend-in-healthcare alerted me to it. Of late he is preparing his CS with 
>this water, always being in search for the best. He told me that "le Bleu" 
>is the best quality of water on our (limited island) market. Clean, and my 
>C S water would come out transparent as any crystal cup.
>
>
>
>So I gave it a try the old way:
>
>Two silver rods in the water, three batteries, ½ hour of processing,
presto!
>
>This CS had hardly any taste, and I wondered. So I did my next batch 
>doubling the time, and it tasted a bit stronger, but by far not as strong 
>as the CS I had been making with Spa (although that always had splendid 
>results).
>
>
>
>My "old" product would have a visible reaction: pouring grayish material 
>from the anode, and little bubbles from the cathode. The result would be a 
>grayish CS.
>
>My "newly made" CS is absolutely clear. The cathode shows hardly any 
>reaction, nor does the anode. The taste is there, but is it okay?
>
>
>
>Resuming:
>
>1 My new water is less metallic in taste
>
>2 It is absolutely transparent
>
>3 I have to double the time (2 x ½ hours).
>
>
>
>Question: Is it that the PPM is even finer with cleaner water?
>
>Does that indicate that the nano particles are more easily 
> absorbed?
>
>Is my cherished home-done product as good as I would want 
> it to
>
>  be?
>
>
>
>Thank you for your attention,
>
>
>
>As always: Faith with his turtle
>
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CS>RE: CS>definitions

2006-11-10 Thread Dan Nave
Not quite.  

I think you're becoming confused because you are equating "electron
flow" with "conventional current."
They are not the same thing.  

It is intuitively easier to understand electron flow as current flow,
however, at one time long ago someone had to decide which way current
flows and they chose the "wrong" way...  So, engineers use "conventional
current flow" which flows from plus (+) to minus (-), and technicians
and all the rest of us use "electron flow" which flows from minus (-) to
plus (+) and call it current.

So, for our purposes, to recap, the minus side is the cathode, the
electrons stream out from it, and the anode collects them back up, and
is the plus side.

(Clear as mud, right? ;-))

Dan

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From: bs clayton [mailto:kl_clay...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>definitions

When I was in school,  cations were the positively charged ions in a
rxn, anions were the negative.
Similarly, I thought the cathode was the plus side of the battery, the
anode the minus side.

So I looked it up in my World Book, and it says, and I quote,

"cathode, noun. 
1. a negatively charged electrode. In an electrolytic cell or electron
tube, electrons flow from the cathode to the anode. The filament in most
vacuum tubes is a cathode. 
2. the positive terminal of a battery or cell that sends out current.
The carbon electrode in a dry cell is the cathode. Also, kathode. "

This must mean the same thing, but since I am only now having my coffee,
it looks different.

To recap, the plus side is the cathode, the electrons stream out from
it, and the anode collects them back up, and is the minus side.

Is this right?  Kathryn



 


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RE: CS>How much EIS to purify drinking water?

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos P�rez

Thank you, Richard and other friends that answered me.

Regards,

Carlos



From: "Richard Harris" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
CC: "Richard Harris" 
Subject: RE: CS>How much EIS to purify drinking water?
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 21:52:15 -0500

Hi Carlos,
One of the Experts on this Site suggested that 1 oz. to a gallon of water,
shake well and allow to sit 30 minutes--there will be NO pathogens alive in
the jug and the water tastes as though it's only water. I prepare several
gallons of this formula to use for potable water in case of hurricanes here
in central FL--Delicious
___
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
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From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler [mailto:cheroke...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>How much EIS to purify drinking water?


Carlos!

The entire "worlds'" ships have silver bullion welded into their fresh 
water

tanks, some like thousands of gallons.
The wave action will get the water circulating around and any contact with
that plate does the job.
So maybe just a tablespoon in a quart should be sufficient?..

I use very little (1 to 2 Oz) in my 16 Oz CPAP heated humidifier reservoir
because full strength will plate the plastic and metal base surfaces which 
I

consider to be a waste.
I do not have any idea how much silver is left in the dry container as the
ions are breathed-in controlling any possible fungal growth.
Long time use (week) without cleaning will produce tiny little bubbles or
beads of what looks like silver with a grayish deposit (fungus?) inside
rolling around on the bottom.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

- Original Message -
From: "Carlos Pérez" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: CS>How much EIS to purify drinking water?


> Hello, friends,
>
> How much 14 ppm EIS should be used to purify 1 gallon non potable water 
in

> emergencies?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Carlos


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CS>definitions

2006-11-10 Thread bs clayton
When I was in school,  cations were the positively
charged ions in a rxn, anions were the negative.
Similarly, I thought the cathode was the plus side of
the battery, the anode the minus side.

So I looked it up in my World Book, and it says, and I
quote,

"cathode, noun. 
1. a negatively charged electrode. In an electrolytic
cell or electron tube, electrons flow from the cathode
to the anode. The filament in most vacuum tubes is a
cathode. 
2. the positive terminal of a battery or cell that
sends out current. The carbon electrode in a dry cell
is the cathode. Also, kathode. "

This must mean the same thing, but since I am only now
having my coffee, it looks different.

To recap, the plus side is the cathode, the electrons
stream out from it, and the anode collects them back
up, and is the minus side.

Is this right?  Kathryn



 

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CS>Re: Re: CS>New Mexico Begins Legislative Process To Ban Aspartame

2006-11-10 Thread noblemetals
It was all over the papers 6 months ago. The legislators caved in to Rummie's 
buddies. It is over. 
> 
> From: "Staya Udanvti  Bob Butler" 
> Date: 2006/11/09 Thu PM 04:04:58 EST
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>New Mexico Begins Legislative Process To Ban Aspartame
> 
> Hi Marshal!
> 
> I tried to look this "scandal" up on the web and could not find anything 
> supporting the New  Mexico Banning of Aspartame".
> Snopes does not have anything yet either.
> 
> Love
> Bob
> Adageyudi
> Staya Udanvti
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:54 PM
> Subject: CS>New Mexico Begins Legislative Process To Ban Aspartame
> 
> 
> > New Mexico is looking at banning the poison that causes Rumsfeld disease
> >
> > http://www.government-propaganda.com/aspartame.html
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Clear, clear water and a question

2006-11-10 Thread mborgert
IS PRILLS OK TO DRINK???
 -- Original message --
From: "Ian Roe" 
> Hello:
> 
> No!  Prills actually dissolve a little in water and increase the total 
> dissolved solids.  The best water is distilled.  I use distilled at 1.2 ppm 
> TDS and it works well.
> 
> Ian Roe
> 
> Alkalinize your body for health.
> http://www.roe.freelife.com  WOW!! My Affiliate Site
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> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Clear, clear water and a question
> 
> 
> >I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, IS PRILL WATER OK TO USE IN MAKING CS??
> > MARY
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Re: CS>Clear, clear water and a question

2006-11-10 Thread Ian Roe

Hello:

No!  Prills actually dissolve a little in water and increase the total 
dissolved solids.  The best water is distilled.  I use distilled at 1.2 ppm 
TDS and it works well.


Ian Roe

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Freelife, The Himalayan Goji Juice Company
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Clear, clear water and a question



I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, IS PRILL WATER OK TO USE IN MAKING CS??
MARY
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Re: CS>Clear, clear water and a question

2006-11-10 Thread Ode Coyote



  You can't really use time alone to predict PPM.
 Only slightly purer water can make a really big difference to get to the 
same stopping point


Best bet is to get a conductivity meter
 Next best , a PPM/TDS meter
Or even just an volt meter [multi meter ]

"Some" way to tell where you are in the process.

ode



At 11:03 AM 11/9/2006 -0400, you wrote:






My respected and beloved C S Forum Friends!



After four years of happily and a bit proudly making my own Colloidal 
Silver at home, and thriving by it for our health, giving it or selling it 
to clients and friends, truth came up a few days ago:


The water I have been using (Spa water) was okay, but not the best in the 
world. The result was always a grayish mist, and it tasted strongly. Yet, 
I only rejected it if there would be a yellowish cloud on the bottom of 
the glass I make my water in. Then, I would use it for external things 
like plants, animals and wounds. For the remainder cleanliness has been 
our lead since day one.




Now, an importer imported "le Bleu" ('the Blue' ­ not that movie). It is 
absolutely clean (distilled) water, for drinking purposes. A 
friend-in-healthcare alerted me to it. Of late he is preparing his CS with 
this water, always being in search for the best. He told me that "le Bleu" 
is the best quality of water on our (limited island) market. Clean, and my 
C S water would come out transparent as any crystal cup.




So I gave it a try the old way:

Two silver rods in the water, three batteries, ½ hour of processing, presto!

This CS had hardly any taste, and I wondered. So I did my next batch 
doubling the time, and it tasted a bit stronger, but by far not as strong 
as the CS I had been making with Spa (although that always had splendid 
results).




My "old" product would have a visible reaction: pouring grayish material 
from the anode, and little bubbles from the cathode. The result would be a 
grayish CS.


My "newly made" CS is absolutely clear. The cathode shows hardly any 
reaction, nor does the anode. The taste is there, but is it okay?




Resuming:

1 My new water is less metallic in taste

2 It is absolutely transparent

3 I have to double the time (2 x ½ hours).



Question: Is it that the PPM is even finer with cleaner water?

   Does that indicate that the nano particles are more easily 
absorbed?


   Is my cherished home-done product as good as I would want 
it to


 be?



Thank you for your attention,



As always: Faith with his turtle


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Re: CS>CS more than just an antibiotic

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos P�rez

Hello, V,

Thanks for the additional information.

Regards,

Carlos



From: V 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: Carlos Pérez 
Subject: Re: CS>CS more than just an antibiotic
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:07:45 -0800

Hi Carlos,

   right but I read Dr Beckers books and he dose say the blood cells 
become de-differentiated(which is what a stem cell is) and then can become 
other types of cells. the silver helps this to happen long with a micro 
current.


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CS>PPM Meter ?

2006-11-10 Thread CWFugitt

Morning Peter,

>> that seems to work rather well.
>> I will also use the equation to cross check the PPM tester.

   Can't you use the PPM Meter to test your water, to some degree?

You should be able to tell good from bad water.  Not exact impurities 
but total impurities.


Yet, from what I learned working with plant nutrient solutions,  a 
PPM meter cannot measure PPM of a given nutrient.Special meters 
exist that can measure a single nutrient.


The PPM meter is much like an EC meter, you get total readings that 
leave a lot of guesswork.


The only true way we have found to work with PPM is to calculate 
based on weight and analysis.

It gets reasonably simple and reasonably accurate  by doing it that way.

Wayne




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Re: CS>Steel electrodes, Why not Silver?

2006-11-10 Thread Mark S. Siepak
G'mornin', Wayne!

No, although it does give larger wetted area (being always careful to keep
alligator clip out of the water!).

I'm just not flush with cash and after much internet searching, I just bid
what I wanted on eBay, eventually I got a great price ( I think 'twas $10
US, incl shipping, for an ounce of .)

Mark

"...It's not getting what you want, it's wanting what you've got".
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