Re: CSCS and malaria
I remember reading some years ago that wormwood (herb) was very effective against malaria. You might want to research that. Paula - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: CSCS and malaria Friends, I'm hoping that someone can help me verify, that CS is effective as both a prevention and a cure for malaria. My only doubt is that I'm not sure whether or not the microbes of malaria would be too complex, in order for the CS to be effective. Thanks in advance! Reid Harvey -- Test your Star IQ Play now!
CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.htmlabout:blank - Original Message - From: Reid Harveymailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid -- In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
why is it not valid. we have been using essential oils mixed in water (you have to shake it) and spraying it on for some time to repel mosquitoes and it has worked for us. haven't used the cat nip yet. - Original Message - From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.htmlhttp://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harveymailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid -- In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
The computer keeps telling me the link is not valid, so I cannot get the page. I do not know why. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS why is it not valid. we have been using essential oils mixed in water (you have to shake it) and spraying it on for some time to repel mosquitoes and it has worked for us. haven't used the cat nip yet. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
I clicked on the link from the email you wrote back and it worked. I'll see what I can do to get you the information. - Original Message - From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS The computer keeps telling me the link is not valid, so I cannot get the page. I do not know why. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS why is it not valid. we have been using essential oils mixed in water (you have to shake it) and spraying it on for some time to repel mosquitoes and it has worked for us. haven't used the cat nip yet. - Original Message - From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.htmlhttp://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harveymailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid -- In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
NEWS RELEASE FROM THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY: Catnip Repels Mosquitoes More Effectively Than DEET CHICAGO, August 27, 2001 - Researchers report that nepetalactone, the essential oil in catnip that gives the plant its characteristic odor, is about ten times more effective at repelling mosquitoes than DEET - the compound used in most commercial insect repellents. The finding was reported today at the 222nd national meeting of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific society, by the same Iowa State University research group that two years ago discovered that catnip also repels cockroaches. Entomologist Chris Peterson, Ph.D., with Joel Coats, Ph.D., chair of the university's entomology department, led the effort to test catnip's ability to repel mosquitoes. Peterson, a former post-doctoral research associate at the school, is now with the U.S. Department of Agriculture Forest Service, Wood Products Insects Research Unit, in Starkville, Miss. While they used so-called yellow fever mosquitoes (Aedes aegypti) - one of several species of mosquitoes found in the United States - Peterson says catnip should work against all types of mosquitoes. Aedes aegypti, which can carry the yellow fever virus from one host to another, is found in most parts of the United States. Yellow fever itself, however, only occurs in Africa and South America, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Vaccines and mosquito control programs have essentially wiped out the disease in the United States, although there have been isolated reports of unvaccinated travelers returning with the disease. The last reported outbreak in this country was in 1905. Peterson put groups of 20 mosquitoes in a two-foot glass tube, half of which was treated with nepetalactone. After 10 minutes, only an average of 20 percent - about four mosquitoes - remained on the side of the tube treated with a high dose (1.0 percent) of the oil. In the low-dose test (0.1 percent) with nepetalactone, an average of 25 percent - five mosquitoes - stayed on the treated side. The same tests with DEET (diethyl-m-toluamide) resulted in approximately 40 percent to 45 percent - eight-nine mosquitoes - remaining on the treated side. In the laboratory, repellency is measured on a scale ranging from +100 percent, considered highly repellent, to -100 percent, considered a strong attractant. A compound with a +100 percent repellency rating would repel all mosquitoes, while -100 percent would attract them all. A rating of zero means half of the insects would stay on the treated side and half on the untreated side. In Peterson's tests, catnip ranged from +49 percent to +59 percent at high doses, and +39 percent to +53 percent at low doses. By comparison, at the same doses, DEET's repellency was only about +10 percent in this bioassay, he notes. Peterson says nepetalactone is about 10 times more effective than DEET because it takes about one-tenth as much nepetalactone as DEET to have the same effect. Most commercial insect repellents contain about 5 percent to 25 percent DEET. Presumably, much less catnip oil would be needed in a formulation to have the same level of repellency as a DEET-based repellent. Why catnip repels mosquitoes is still a mystery, says Peterson. It might simply be acting as an irritant or they don't like the smell. But nobody really knows why insect repellents work. No animal or human tests are yet scheduled for nepetalactone, although Peterson is hopeful that will take place in the future. If subsequent testing shows nepetalactone is safe for people, Peterson thinks it would not be too difficult to commercialize it as an insect repellent. Extracting nepetalactone oil from catnip is fairly easily, he says. Any high school science lab would have the equipment to distill this, and on the industrial scale it's quite easy. Catnip is a perennial herb belonging to the mint family and grows wild in most parts of the United States, although it also is cultivated for commercial use. Catnip is native to Europe and was introduced to this country in the late 18th century. It is primarily known for the stimulating effect it has on cats, although some people use the leaves in tea, as a meat tenderizer and even as a folk treatment for fevers, colds, cramps and migraines. A patent application for the use of catnip compounds as insect repellents was submitted last year by the Iowa State University Research Foundation. Funding for the research was from the Iowa Agriculture Experiment Station. Chris Peterson, Ph.D., is a former post-doctoral research associate at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, and is now a Research Entomologist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture Forest Service, Wood Products Insect Research Service, in Starkville, Miss. Joel R. Coats, Ph.D., is professor of entomology and toxicology and Chair of the Department of Entomology at Iowa State University in
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Okay, I got it. I don't know why it worked this time and not before. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS I clicked on the link from the email you wrote back and it worked. I'll see what I can do to get you the information. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS The computer keeps telling me the link is not valid, so I cannot get the page. I do not know why. Faith G.
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
I think your memory of CS working against malaria may come from some of my older posts, regarding how effective CS is working against Dengue Fever, which is a close relative of malaria, and is also mosquito borne. I lived in Southern Mexico, and I've had the dreaded Dengue at least 25 times. But I did not have a single case for the seven years I took CS (Microdyn at 90 ppm) on a daily basis. However, I stopped the CS after my nails turned blue (from using an off-brand product, not Microdyn) and caught my first case of Dengue in seven years. This occurred several years ago. CS both prevents and quickly cures Dengue. I also believe it also prevents/cures malaria, but do not have any proof, since I've never contracted malaria. I also believe I've read posts about the World Health Organization (or some such international body) testing CS against malaria in West Africa, but haven't read any followup posts regarding the effectiveness of CS against malaria. Original Message: - From: faith gagne jitte...@gis.net Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:11:08 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Okay, I got it. I don't know why it worked this time and not before. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS I clicked on the link from the email you wrote back and it worked. I'll see what I can do to get you the information. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS The computer keeps telling me the link is not valid, so I cannot get the page. I do not know why. Faith G. mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
copy yhe web address by copy and paste Norm - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid -- In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Reid Harvey wrote: Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 MMS and DMSO have nothing to do with each other. MMS is sodium chlorite, which converts to chlorous acid when it encounters an acid, that then slowly breaks down into chlorine dioxide, one of the most powerful antimicrobials there is. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Thanks Dianne. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS NEWS RELEASE FROM THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY: Catnip Repels Mosquitoes More Effectively Than DEET CHICAGO, August 27, 2001 - Researchers report that nepetalactone, the essential oil in catnip that gives the plant its characteristic odor, is about ten times more effective at repelling mosquitoes than DEET - the compound used in most commercial insect repellents. The finding was reported today at the 222nd national meeting of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific society, by the same Iowa State University research group that two years ago discovered that catnip also repels cockroaches. Entomologist Chris Peterson, Ph.D., with Joel Coats, Ph.D., chair of the university's entomology department, led the effort to test catnip's ability to repel mosquitoes. Peterson, a former post-doctoral research associate at the school, is now with the U.S. Department of Agriculture Forest Service, Wood Products Insects Research Unit, in Starkville, Miss. While they used so-called yellow fever mosquitoes (Aedes aegypti) - one of several species of mosquitoes found in the United States - Peterson says catnip should work against all types of mosquitoes. Aedes aegypti, which can carry the yellow fever virus from one host to another, is found in most parts of the United States. Yellow fever itself, however, only occurs in Africa and South America, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Vaccines and mosquito control programs have essentially wiped out the disease in the United States, although there have been isolated reports of unvaccinated travelers returning with the disease. The last reported outbreak in this country was in 1905. Peterson put groups of 20 mosquitoes in a two-foot glass tube, half of which was treated with nepetalactone. After 10 minutes, only an average of 20 percent - about four mosquitoes - remained on the side of the tube treated with a high dose (1.0 percent) of the oil. In the low-dose test (0.1 percent) with nepetalactone, an average of 25 percent - five mosquitoes - stayed on the treated side. The same tests with DEET (diethyl-m-toluamide) resulted in approximately 40 percent to 45 percent - eight-nine mosquitoes - remaining on the treated side. In the laboratory, repellency is measured on a scale ranging from +100 percent, considered highly repellent, to -100 percent, considered a strong attractant. A compound with a +100 percent repellency rating would repel all mosquitoes, while -100 percent would attract them all. A rating of zero means half of the insects would stay on the treated side and half on the untreated side. In Peterson's tests, catnip ranged from +49 percent to +59 percent at high doses, and +39 percent to +53 percent at low doses. By comparison, at the same doses, DEET's repellency was only about +10 percent in this bioassay, he notes. Peterson says nepetalactone is about 10 times more effective than DEET because it takes about one-tenth as much nepetalactone as DEET to have the same effect. Most commercial insect repellents contain about 5 percent to 25 percent DEET. Presumably, much less catnip oil would be needed in a formulation to have the same level of repellency as a DEET-based repellent. Why catnip repels mosquitoes is still a mystery, says Peterson. It might simply be acting as an irritant or they don't like the smell. But nobody really knows why insect repellents work. No animal or human tests are yet scheduled for nepetalactone, although Peterson is hopeful that will take place in the future. If subsequent testing shows nepetalactone is safe for people, Peterson thinks it would not be too difficult to commercialize it as an insect repellent. Extracting nepetalactone oil from catnip is fairly easily, he says. Any high school science lab would have the equipment to distill this, and on the industrial scale it's quite easy. Catnip is a perennial herb belonging to the mint family and grows wild in most parts of the United States, although it also is cultivated for commercial use. Catnip is native to Europe and was introduced to this country in the late 18th century. It is primarily known for the stimulating effect it has on cats, although some people use the leaves in tea, as a meat tenderizer and even as a folk treatment for fevers, colds, cramps and migraines. A patent application for the use of catnip compounds as insect repellents was submitted last year by the Iowa State University Research Foundation. Funding for the research was from the Iowa Agriculture Experiment Station. Chris Peterson, Ph.D., is a former post-doctoral research associate at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, and is now a Research Entomologist with the U.S. Department of
Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
Thanks. Faith G - Original Message - From: N Cameron To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS copy yhe web address by copy and paste Norm - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi. This email site is not valid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSCS - malaria - and MMS If you are going to a mosquito infested area you might want to read this web site. http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: CSCS - malaria - and MMS Hi again, Thanks to all for the suggestion, on MMS for malaria, etc., but I seem to recall that several years ago there were those on the list who said that CS is effective, as prevention and cure for malaria. Can somebody recall other comments? I'm now a little confused? About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.
CScs and malaria
I had malaria as a small child, and had recurrent chills/shakes episodes through my life till a couple years ago when I started cs - none since then. Doesn't mean I'm cured at least not according to the Red Cross - still can't give blood. But my sense is I'm better. certainly symptoms are gone. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSon Mercola's site mentions Malaria - anise seed
I wonder if you put anise in dog food, if it would reduce the possibility of heartworm from mosquito bites. Anise is in lots of biscotti recipes. Jess The licorice-flavored herb anise contains high levels of health-boosting compounds called phenylpropanoids. A team of researchers isolated 22 compounds in anise essential oils, and found some phenylpropanoid compounds that were unique to anise, and four of the compounds had never before been identified in any plant. Aside from effectively controlling aphids and the plant fungus Colletotrichum, the compounds also showed promise for human health problems. Specifically, some of the compounds were effective against: a.. Plasmodium falciparum, the parasite that causes malaria in humans. b.. Mycobacterium intracellulare, a bacterium that can cause illness in people with compromised immune systems. Further, some phenylpropanoids had anti-inflammatory and phytoestrogen properties. The researchers suggested that compounds in anise essential oils may be useful for developing pharmaceuticals and agrochemicals. Sources: a.. Science Daily March 12, 2008 a.. Pure and Applied Chemistry 2007, Vol. 79, No. 4, pp. 539-556
CSDeionized Water for CS
On another list, a dog list, a friend mentioned that Whole Foods Market had deionized water for 39 cents a gallon. Before I retired, I ran a wafer fab operation and we used a lot of DI water and it was very clean. I decided to buy a gallon and try making CS with it. I have a COM 100 meter and this water measured better than any water I have tried. My SilverGen loved it and it made very good CS. Cheers, Gene
RE: CSCS - malaria - and MMS
...you're mixing up MMS with MSM. get some MMS to take with you travelling. read up on using it. you can put a few drops in water to purify it as needed. just tell customs it's a water purifier and disinfectant. probably want to take some citric acid too. -Original Message- About MMS, isn't this an organic form of sulfur, similar to DMSO? Or am I mistaken? How would one take the MMS? Would DMSO also work? Please help me out on this, since I'm anticipating travel to a malarial area. Reid MMS and DMSO have nothing to do with each other. MMS is sodium chlorite, which converts to chlorous acid when it encounters an acid, that then slowly breaks down into chlorine dioxide, one of the most powerful antimicrobials there is. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDeionized Water for CS
Thanks for the tip Gene. We have a Whole Foods Market around here and I will try it. I have a hard time finding a really low uS distilled water. Dan From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDeionized Water for CS On another list, a dog list, a friend mentioned that Whole Foods Market had deionized water for 39 cents a gallon. Before I retired, I ran a wafer fab operation and we used a lot of DI water and it was very clean. I decided to buy a gallon and try making CS with it. I have a COM 100 meter and this water measured better than any water I have tried. My SilverGen loved it and it made very good CS. Cheers, Gene
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
ok, can you please look on the bottle and tell me where it is made? The stuff they sell here has not tested very good, and they charge a dollar a gallon, it is Whole Foods brand. On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote: On another list, a dog list, a friend mentioned that Whole Foods Market had deionized water for 39 cents a gallon. Before I retired, I ran a wafer fab operation and we used a lot of DI water and it was very clean. I decided to buy a gallon and try making CS with it. I have a COM 100 meter and this water measured better than any water I have tried. My SilverGen loved it and it made very good CS. Cheers, Gene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
I would think that deionized water is the same as distilled, if the word is a description of what it really means. Nenah
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
It is and is usually much lower in mineral content. Using two deionizing filters in series will produce ultra pure water suitable for use in silicon chip manufacturingor for making very high quality EIS. Trem - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS I would think that deionized water is the same as distilled, if the word is a description of what it really means. Nenah
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
Hi There Trem - where can I get the two filters to purchase ? Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset http://www.alive-again.net/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
Sorry, I can't help you on this. It was in a bulk dispenser and I took in a distilled water bottle from another store. At 01:14 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote: ok, can you please look on the bottle and tell me where it is made? The stuff they sell here has not tested very good, and they charge a dollar a gallon, it is Whole Foods brand.
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Yep, it was a member I've spoken with on the phone before, and not unwelcome at all! (And not Wayne. ;^) I don't expect to get phone calls routinely, as it would become intrusive, but in this case I needed the poke in the ribs to get me back to my computer. grin Thanks for the concern, folks! Mike D. At 03:01 PM 3/26/2008, you wrote: Oh, brother, I think it's really going beyond the pale to telephone a list owner at home to referee silly list squabbles! For shame! You are not talking about me. I have communicated with Mike about other things, and I was simply worried about him. Someone did that, but I know not who. As I said, not me. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSDeionized Water for CS
I'm in Dallas, TX. The reason it's so cheap may be that it is in bulk. They sell bottles separately, but you can bring your own. At 04:21 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote: ...here in maryland the DW from Whole Foods is the best around for CS, and cheaper than everywhere else also, but it's $.79/gal. whereabouts are you that it's sooo cheap?
RE: CSDeionized Water for CS
...here in maryland the DW from Whole Foods is the best around for CS, and cheaper than everywhere else also, but it's $.79/gal. whereabouts are you that it's sooo cheap? -Original Message- From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDeionized Water for CS On another list, a dog list, a friend mentioned that Whole Foods Market had deionized water for 39 cents a gallon. Before I retired, I ran a wafer fab operation and we used a lot of DI water and it was very clean. I decided to buy a gallon and try making CS with it. I have a COM 100 meter and this water measured better than any water I have tried. My SilverGen loved it and it made very good CS. Cheers, Gene
RE: CSDeionized Water for CS
i've been wondering about de-ionized vs distilled. steam distillation will kill/disable/destroy most any virus or other microbe, correct? then ozonation as a last step at bottling should finish off whatever survived or got in since distillation. de-ionizer resin removes dissolved solids that are ionic, giving a TDS reading close to zero. used as the last stage in a Reverse Osmosis (RO) system (except for a polish cartridge to catch stray resin fines from the DI) where the other cartridges include sediment 1micron, KDF-55, GAC, a carbon block 0.5micron all before the RO membrane ... i get water that reads 0.4ppm or 0.7uS (with a com-100). that's about half the reading from the whole foods Fox Ledge DW that's otherwise the best around here. this DI/RO water makes crystal clear CS but it's not as stable over the first two days as that CS made from the DW ... the meter reading drops by about half, whereas with DW it drops less than 1/3. i wonder just what might be getting through this RO-DI system that doesn't get through distillation? live microorganisms come to mind... like virus and mycoplasma would be small enough (?) if they haven't been killed already by the chlorine in the pipes. i wonder if it would be of any advantage to add an ultraviolet sterilizer stage to the filter? for making CS, i wonder if ozonating the water first, then letting the ozone fizz out, would change anything?...that's something i can try...raises another question: my ozone generator uses a silica gel air dryer at the inlet to reduce nitrous compound production; will ozonated water when fizzed out still have any nitric acid or anything ugly in it from the impure ozone that'll react with the silver??? i'm overall very happy with this filter setup for CS use, but the stability question nags at me. now i'm thinking i might add a 2nd DI cartridge in series. [...bobL: ] -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS It is and is usually much lower in mineral content. Using two deionizing filters in series will produce ultra pure water suitable for use in silicon chip manufacturingor for making very high quality EIS. Trem - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS I would think that deionized water is the same as distilled, if the word is a description of what it really means. Nenah
RE: CSDeionized Water for CS
...the brand in the Annapolis, MD whole foods is Fox Ledge from Fox Ledge Springs, Mt. Pleasant, PA. steam distilled, microfiltered, ozonated. -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS ok, can you please look on the bottle and tell me where it is made? The stuff they sell here has not tested very good, and they charge a dollar a gallon, it is Whole Foods brand. On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote: On another list, a dog list, a friend mentioned that Whole Foods Market had deionized water for 39 cents a gallon. Before I retired, I ran a wafer fab operation and we used a lot of DI water and it was very clean. I decided to buy a gallon and try making CS with it. I have a COM 100 meter and this water measured better than any water I have tried. My SilverGen loved it and it made very good CS. Cheers, Gene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSwhere to buy Deionizer filters
my RO system was an old 3-stage (pre-sediment, RO membrane, post-carbon block) i spent twice as much money upgrading it to 6-stage as it would've cost to buy a complete new 6-stage system shipped. i didn't notice that until all the stuff was ordered... i had no idea water filters had turned into such a big area on ebay and that prices had tumbled since the mid 90's. the inline DI cartridges are refillable, and can easily be added to a RO system. there's sellers offering the plastic things that clip the 2 cartridges together and onto the 2.5 RO membrane housing... buying multiple items from the same seller usually cuts shipping a lot. make sure the cartridges or housings have fittings to connect 1/4 tubing, or order them. the kind that the tubing just pushes in seem to work fine. ebay: refillable 10 cartridge for DI, GAC, KDF, or whatever 250227419243 another, cheaper 360035550981 goes into a standard 10 filter housing. DI resin to fill it up: 260221870886 the purolite refillable inline cartdridges 160106267362 don't know what the difference is except $3 less for this one (same seller) 160106267350 -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS Hi There Trem - where can I get the two filters to purchase ? Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset http://www.alive-again.net/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwhere to buy Deionizer filters
Thanks Bob - I will go and have a look Regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset http://www.alive-again.net/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDeionized Water for CS
Hi Sandee, Google dionizing filters. Here's one site. Under $200 for the whole setup. http://www.abundantflowwater.com/html/aquarium_filters.html I hope this helps. Best regards, Trem www.silvergen.com - Original Message - From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: CSDeionized Water for CS Hi There Trem - where can I get the two filters to purchase ? Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset http://www.alive-again.net/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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