RE: CSCan CS be directly injected into an abscess?

2008-05-29 Thread bob Larson
...that's Arnold's site.  thanks for coming up with the link Faith.
i also bought a laser pointer from him and really like it.
  -Original Message-
  From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:43 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCan CS be directly injected into an abscess?


  Here's a site to order silver wire:
http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm

  Faith G.


Re: CSCan CS be directly injected into an abscess?

2008-05-29 Thread Faith Gagne
I don't think I know who Arnold is, but that is ok.  You are welcome.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: bob Larson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:25 AM
  Subject: RE: CSCan CS be directly injected into an abscess?


  ...that's Arnold's site.  thanks for coming up with the link Faith.
  i also bought a laser pointer from him and really like it.  
-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCan CS be directly injected into an abscess?


Here's a site to order silver wire:  http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm

Faith G.

Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Paula Perry
Hi Faith,
I am not the best one to explain what MRSA is probably, but it is a nasty
infection. From what I have heard it starts out looking like a boil. It can
be very resistant to antibiotics. On the second question. Sure, I think CS
would help but I am not sure that it would cure it.
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


 Hi Paula.

 First of all, what is MRSA?  Secondly, why wouldnt colloidal silver help?
 Thanks.  Faith G.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:59 AM
 Subject: Fw: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


 This is an old message that I had saved. In light of the huge number of
 people contacting MRSA these days it seems important that we have items on
 hand that can be administered quickly in addition to CS.
 Paula
  http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
  http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
  Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective weapon against
  deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty hospital
  wards – green French muck. The dramatic antibiotic success of agricur, a
  clay made from ancient volcanic ash found near the Massif Central, marks
  it out as a potential rival to penicillin, the wonder drug of the 20th
  century. In experiments, the clay killed up to 99 per cent of superbug
  colonies within 24 hours. Control samples of MRSA (methicillin-
 
  resistant Staphylococcus aureus) grew 45-fold in the same period. The
  clay has a similar effect on other deadly bacteria tested, including
  salmonella, E. coli, and a flesh-eating disease called buruli, a
  relative of leprosy which disfigures children across central and western
  Africa. It has been classed as an emerging public health threat by the
  World Health Organization (WHO).
 
 
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Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Paula Perry
Hi Ed,
They sell a French Green Clay at www.mountainroseherbs.com
It says it is from bedrock quarries in France. It may not be the AGRICUR type 
though. It is $8.25 for a pound. I wonder if the clay doesn't help by drawing 
out the infection (by the nature of clay being very absorbent)? Phone number is 
800-879-3337
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: m1mar...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 AM
  Subject: Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


  Anyone know where I can buy some of this Clay?  AGRICUR- FRENCH CLAY.  Ed..





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Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread M1marine
Thanks for the info. Ed.



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RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Judy K
MRSA is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. In other words,
anti-biotic resistant staph.
Comes from hospitals.
Why wouldn't CS cure it?  What better? It's a virus. CS kills yellow
(aureus) staph.
In my opinion, it's the dosing technique that's important (method, time,
amount, etc.)
I am wondering why people are questioning CS so often on this list lately.
Am I too trusting
of CS' abilities? I don't think so!
Judy Down Maine

-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA


Hi Faith,
I am not the best one to explain what MRSA is probably, but it is a nasty
infection. From what I have heard it starts out looking like a boil. It can
be very resistant to antibiotics. On the second question. Sure, I think CS
would help but I am not sure that it would cure it.
Paula
- Original Message -
From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


 Hi Paula.

 First of all, what is MRSA?  Secondly, why wouldnt colloidal silver help?
 Thanks.  Faith G.


 - Original Message -
 From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:59 AM
 Subject: Fw: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


 This is an old message that I had saved. In light of the huge number of
 people contacting MRSA these days it seems important that we have items on
 hand that can be administered quickly in addition to CS.
 Paula
  http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
  http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
  Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective weapon against
  deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty hospital
  wards – green French muck. The dramatic antibiotic success of agricur, a
  clay made from ancient volcanic ash found near the Massif Central, marks
  it out as a potential rival to penicillin, the wonder drug of the 20th
  century. In experiments, the clay killed up to 99 per cent of superbug
  colonies within 24 hours. Control samples of MRSA (methicillin-
 
  resistant Staphylococcus aureus) grew 45-fold in the same period. The
  clay has a similar effect on other deadly bacteria tested, including
  salmonella, E. coli, and a flesh-eating disease called buruli, a
  relative of leprosy which disfigures children across central and western
  Africa. It has been classed as an emerging public health threat by the
  World Health Organization (WHO).
 
 
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RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Dee
I have to agree with you Judy as I noticed this also.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Judy K
Date: 29/05/2008 12:45:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
MRSA is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. In other words,
anti-biotic resistant staph.
Comes from hospitals.
Why wouldn't CS cure it?  What better? It's a virus. CS kills yellow
(aureus) staph.
In my opinion, it's the dosing technique that's important (method, time,
amount, etc.)
I am wondering why people are questioning CS so often on this list lately.
Am I too trusting
of CS' abilities? I don't think so!
Judy Down Maine
 

Re: CSPotassium Chloride Source

2008-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Serum potassium level of 40 mg/100 ml is fatal in man [27]. Probable oral 
lethal dose for humans is

estimated to 500-5000 mg/kg

..and it doesn't taste very  salty
Google is your friend.

Ode

At 02:38 PM 5/27/2008 -0400, you wrote:


I am not using potassium chloride, but what is a lethal dose?  Faith G.

- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Chloride Source





  According to various medical TV shows, too much Potassium Chloride can 
be used to stop your heart pretty darned fast.

Check it out before over indulging..

Dr. Jack Kevorkian's thanatron machine injected a lethal dose of 
potassium chloride into the patient, which caused the heart to stop 
functioning, after a sodium thiopental-induced coma was achieved. A 
similar device, the German 'Perfusor', also uses potassium chloride as a 
suicide aid


Calcium chloride is the salt substitute?



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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote



 1989 Sprint
1990-1994 Metro
XFI versions get up to 60 MPG.mine only does 54 in reality.

Top speed @ around 85 MPH.

1995-2001 models were made bigger and heavier and get around 45 MPG IF it 
has the 3 cyl engine with 5 speed transmission.

Deduct ~8 MPG for automatic, all models.
4 cyl engines are almost as efficient.

 Made by GM in Canada based on the Suzuki Swift designs, sold both under 
the Geo and Chevy bowtie badges.


I pulled the head off one at 120,000 miles to do a valve job and the engine 
looked NEW.
I was SOLD on that alone and bought 7 of them while they were still as 
cheap as gas was.


Ode



At 09:02 AM 5/27/2008 -1000, you wrote:


Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . .

What make  year was this car ?

Smitty


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RE: CSlocal silver wire- fine silver

2008-05-29 Thread Dan Nave
I'm confused.  Nowhere did she mention sterling.

Fine silver is 99.9% fine.  That's 'three nines' and this is OK to use
for CS.

Don't use sterling which is a much lower grade of silver,  92.5 %.

Dan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_silver

The sterling silver standard has a minimum millesimal fineness of 925.
Sterling is an alloy of silver containing 92.5 % pure silver and 7.5 %
other metals, usually copper.

Fine silver (99.9% pure) is generally too soft for producing large
functional objects;...


 -Original Message-
 From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:34 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSlocal silver wire- fine silver
 
 That's okay honey bunch.  We all make mistakes.  Faith G
 - Original Message - 
 
 
 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSlocal silver wire- fine silver
 
 
  you are right, I made a mistake when I wrote that. I apologise- 
  sterling is not good enough.
  
  Fine silver is 99.92% purity, and that is what I use.  Many people 
  feel the difference in quality between .9992 and . is 
 so small as 
  to be negligible. Many many people use the 3 nines silver.
  
  Sorry for the confusion!
  
  kathryn
  
  
  On May 28, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Faith Gagne wrote:
  
  I don't think so.  The silver should not be sterling.  Faith G.
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Clayton Family 
  clay...@skypoint.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:53 PM
  Subject: CSlocal silver wire
 
 
   Local jewelry supply stores usually carry fine silver 
 wire, which 
  is plenty good enough to start with. Try to find the largest 
  diameter wire you can, mine had 12 gauge, but I think any would 
  work, just the small stuff (20 gauge) would not last as long.
  kathryn
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RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread mborgert






My mother aquired staff infection from the hospital. 
I used 50% dmso and 50% c/s on a huge bandage. within a week it was gone but she had to continue taking c/s internallyfor 6 months.
Mary
-- Original message from "Dee " d...@deetroy.org: -- 









I have to agree with you Judy as I noticed this also. Dee 

---Original Message---


From: Judy K
Date: 29/05/2008 12:45:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

MRSA is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. In other words,
anti-biotic resistant staph.
Comes from hospitals.
Why wouldn't CS cure it?What better? It's a virus. CS kills yellow
(aureus) staph.
In my opinion, it's the dosing technique that's important (method, time,
amount, etc.)
I am wondering why people are questioning CS so often on this list lately.
Am I too trusting
of CS' abilities? I don't think so!
Judy Down Maine














RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Dan Nave
MRSA is a bacterium, not a virus.

Dan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterium
responsible for difficult-to-treat infections in humans. It may also be
referred to as multiple-resistant Staphylococcus aureus or
oxacillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (ORSA). The organism is often
sub-categorized as Community-Associated MRSA (CA-MRSA) or
Hospital-Associated MRSA (HA-MRSA) depending upon the circumstances of
acquiring disease, based on current data that these are distinct strains
of the bacterial species.[1]


 -Original Message-
 From: Judy K [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:45 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
 MRSA is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. In other 
 words, anti-biotic resistant staph.
 Comes from hospitals.
 Why wouldn't CS cure it?  What better? It's a virus. CS kills yellow
 (aureus) staph.
 In my opinion, it's the dosing technique that's important 
 (method, time, amount, etc.) I am wondering why people are 
 questioning CS so often on this list lately.
 Am I too trusting
 of CS' abilities? I don't think so!
 Judy Down Maine
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:53 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
 
 Hi Faith,
 I am not the best one to explain what MRSA is probably, but 
 it is a nasty infection. From what I have heard it starts out 
 looking like a boil. It can be very resistant to antibiotics. 
 On the second question. Sure, I think CS would help but I am 
 not sure that it would cure it.
 Paula
 - Original Message -
 From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:11 AM
 Subject: Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
 
  Hi Paula.
 
  First of all, what is MRSA?  Secondly, why wouldnt 
 colloidal silver help?
  Thanks.  Faith G.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:59 AM
  Subject: Fw: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
 
  This is an old message that I had saved. In light of the 
 huge number 
  of people contacting MRSA these days it seems important 
 that we have 
  items on hand that can be administered quickly in addition to CS.
  Paula
   http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
   http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
   Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective 
 weapon against 
   deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty 
   hospital wards - green French muck. The dramatic 
 antibiotic success 
   of agricur, a clay made from ancient volcanic ash found near the 
   Massif Central, marks it out as a potential rival to 
 penicillin, the 
   wonder drug of the 20th century. In experiments, the clay 
 killed up 
   to 99 per cent of superbug colonies within 24 hours. 
 Control samples 
   of MRSA (methicillin-
  
   resistant Staphylococcus aureus) grew 45-fold in the same period. 
   The clay has a similar effect on other deadly bacteria tested, 
   including salmonella, E. coli, and a flesh-eating disease called 
   buruli, a relative of leprosy which disfigures children across 
   central and western Africa. It has been classed as an emerging 
   public health threat by the World Health Organization (WHO).
  
  
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RE: CSMRSA is running rapant in my wife and children

2008-05-29 Thread Dan Nave
Also,  bromelain, an enzyme derived from the pineapple plant, is
purported to make antibiotics work more effectively.  
 
You can buy bromelain fairly cheaply  and take it in divided doses with
water (on a fairly empty stomach is best).  I would take up to 3,000
units a day, and back down possibly to 500 units 3 times a day.  The
dose isn't that critical, just take enough...
 
Works to reduce inflammation and bruising too.
 
Dan




From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMRSA is running rapant in my wife and children


Hi (?) I don't know your name!  These are just the things that CS (EIS)
can cure beautifully.  Mixed with DMSO (Dimethylsulphoxide) it can be
applied directly to the affected parts and should clear them up within
days.  Also take EIS internally a few times a day can do nothing but
help.  Most people on the list make their own and this is the best form
of EIS (don't take any notice of what Oxysilver say; they are wrong!!
Home made EIS is the best and there are many very knowledgeable people
on the list to help you with this.  HTH.Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: racerti...@aol.com
Date: 05/27/08 18:35:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMRSA is running rapant in my wife and children
 
Hello,
 
I am new to the list. I was referred by Hanneke. This all started last
year when my daughter had what we had assumed was a bug bite that got
infected. It literally became a large puss filled abscess that exploded
one day. Doctor subscribed anti-biotic's it went away (for a while).
Next was my wife, she assumed she was bitten by a spider on top of her
index toe. A small red spot turned out to be a huge swollen abscess on
top of her foot that led to immense pain, a laceration for drainage and
two weeks of wound packing. Since then my son and daughter again have
both had pussed filled sores that were treated with anti-biotic's.
Apparently anti-biotic's are only a temporary fix. We have popped and
squeezed them each time they came, knowing if we don't, they will become
abscesses' again. Well, my wife now has another abscess on top of her
foot, she went to the doctor this morning, they prescribed Ripafin and
Bactrim. I was so frustrated this morning, I began to research, leading
me to this list. Another illness they all suffer from is the whooping
cough. The only thing that's seams to help is less dairy, cough
suppressant, sleeping with their heads elevated and time. But the cough
and sores always come back.
 
I want to try CS, so whats the best way? OxySilver is expensive and
states home brews are dangerous because they dont have nano size
particles. I can afford Oxy Silver for a while, but what about the
silver coin in fresh milk trick. There must be a common ground here.
Thanks, the Moore Family
 




Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote

At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated water, 
it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead 
paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of 
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments 
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost 
all fronts.


  ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that 
it CAN do that job.
 Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is 
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] 
and can be bought elsewhere.




 The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters 
and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government 
interference.  It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages 
needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the 
CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary.


## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get 
cut to make that price possible?

The people work at cross purposes to themselves.
Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come 
in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it.
 Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer 
demands, making a show for the voters who want and vote for the impossible.


  You have it all backwards Ode.   You say we aren't willing to buy cars 
that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers 
in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to 
their lack of quality economical green cars.  Give us a good car that 
gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes.


##  NOW they will.  With all that hindsight at work.
 But Now due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to 
protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious 
NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that 
DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made.


  People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used 
car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is 
NOT in control when big business, big pharma, big oil and big 
government is DICTATING what is to be available.


##  The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is 
the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ]
If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable 
future* rather than for their egoic present desire, no dictate would have 
been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and 
simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven 
fact...IN USE.
So now people are stuck with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN 
a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, 
I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given 
to me for anything but scrap.

3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing.

On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per 
person.all it takes is some organization and planning,  but people 
just will not do it.


The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE 
of what we bought into and want.
So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the 
impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do 
just that.

They are people too.
We claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like 
that's true.  No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we 
deny we are.


I do not have it backwards.
Denial has warped reality perception to where the after effect and 
resultant stop gap emergency dictate, becomes the cause.
People believe they can live on credit cards too, then blame the banks when 
they go broke paying the interest they didn't have in their own 
futures.  [DUH! ]
Dumb as posts and voting for more of the same, done by a new bunch of 
representatives to kick later on.
Meanwhile, the one guy that has the guts to say the Gov't can't do it, 
[because it CAN'T and never could for very long without stepping on the 
same toes it's trying to sidestep and wasting enormous sums of money doing 
it ]  gets shot to Hell in the polls.


Good luck..that has historically always worked. [to do exactly this ]

If it has never worked, do it harder to someone else, using someone else to 
do it.

..and when you run out of someone elses, it's their fault.

Ode



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RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

2008-05-29 Thread Judy K
Excuse me, Dan -- you are correct!
And CS will do it in!
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA


MRSA is a bacterium, not a virus.

Dan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterium
responsible for difficult-to-treat infections in humans. It may also be
referred to as multiple-resistant Staphylococcus aureus or
oxacillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (ORSA). The organism is often
sub-categorized as Community-Associated MRSA (CA-MRSA) or
Hospital-Associated MRSA (HA-MRSA) depending upon the circumstances of
acquiring disease, based on current data that these are distinct strains
of the bacterial species.[1]


 -Original Message-
 From: Judy K [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com]
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:45 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA

 MRSA is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. In other
 words, anti-biotic resistant staph.
 Comes from hospitals.
 Why wouldn't CS cure it?  What better? It's a virus. CS kills yellow
 (aureus) staph.
 In my opinion, it's the dosing technique that's important
 (method, time, amount, etc.) I am wondering why people are
 questioning CS so often on this list lately.
 Am I too trusting
 of CS' abilities? I don't think so!
 Judy Down Maine

 -Original Message-
 From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:53 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS May Be The Answer to MRSA


 Hi Faith,
 I am not the best one to explain what MRSA is probably, but
 it is a nasty infection. From what I have heard it starts out
 looking like a boil. It can be very resistant to antibiotics.
 On the second question. Sure, I think CS would help but I am
 not sure that it would cure it.
 Paula
 - Original Message -
 From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:11 AM
 Subject: Re: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA


  Hi Paula.
 
  First of all, what is MRSA?  Secondly, why wouldnt
 colloidal silver help?
  Thanks.  Faith G.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:59 AM
  Subject: Fw: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA
 
 
  This is an old message that I had saved. In light of the
 huge number
  of people contacting MRSA these days it seems important
 that we have
  items on hand that can be administered quickly in addition to CS.
  Paula
   http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
   http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece
   Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective
 weapon against
   deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty
   hospital wards - green French muck. The dramatic
 antibiotic success
   of agricur, a clay made from ancient volcanic ash found near the
   Massif Central, marks it out as a potential rival to
 penicillin, the
   wonder drug of the 20th century. In experiments, the clay
 killed up
   to 99 per cent of superbug colonies within 24 hours.
 Control samples
   of MRSA (methicillin-
  
   resistant Staphylococcus aureus) grew 45-fold in the same period.
   The clay has a similar effect on other deadly bacteria tested,
   including salmonella, E. coli, and a flesh-eating disease called
   buruli, a relative of leprosy which disfigures children across
   central and western Africa. It has been classed as an emerging
   public health threat by the World Health Organization (WHO).
  
  
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Re: CSMRSA - video link - silver in hospitals

2008-05-29 Thread Rowena
Here is a llink http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2005/0910-killing_germs.htm 
to a video on the silver-based coating being used in hospitals - 
In Hospitals, Air Ducts with Silver-Based Coating Stay Germ-Free

Preventing hospital infections -- from such stubborn bugs as Staphylococcus 
aureus -- could get a little easier with a new non-toxic, silver-based material.

In the interview/video is the statement : It's potent enough to kill germs, but 
is safe to use on virtually any surface. Trogolo says, It's less toxic than 
table salt and less irritating than talcum powder. Ultimately we hope this will 
result in less infections and actually better outcomes for the patients.

So if anyone tries to tell you using silver is dangerous, you have this 
hospital representative saying it is less toxic than table salt.  They say:  
silver, a centuries-old germ killer.

Rowena

Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread T. J. Garland

Got one to sell?  I am not far from you.
Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little 
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety--  Benjamin Franklin, 
1755
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika





 1989 Sprint
1990-1994 Metro
XFI versions get up to 60 MPG.mine only does 54 in reality.

Top speed @ around 85 MPH.

1995-2001 models were made bigger and heavier and get around 45 MPG IF it 
has the 3 cyl engine with 5 speed transmission.

Deduct ~8 MPG for automatic, all models.
4 cyl engines are almost as efficient.

 Made by GM in Canada based on the Suzuki Swift designs, sold both under 
the Geo and Chevy bowtie badges.


I pulled the head off one at 120,000 miles to do a valve job and the 
engine looked NEW.
I was SOLD on that alone and bought 7 of them while they were still as 
cheap as gas was.


Ode



At 09:02 AM 5/27/2008 -1000, you wrote:


Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . .

What make  year was this car ?

Smitty


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CSHelp with Silvergen SG6

2008-05-29 Thread mama000105-silver
Hello everyone,

I just received my Silvergen SG6 and I cannot figure out how to attach these 
electrodes! I called the company, but I didn't find his explanation to help. 
Also, the picture on the instructions don't aren't helpful. When I try to 
insert them, they don't stay in place. They also say to bend them, but I don't 
get how. Has anyone else had difficulty with this? 

I know this is asking a bit much, but can anyone post a picture of how theirs 
looks before or during making the CS batch? I think it could be really helpful.

Thanks,
Malikah


Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize 
who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all 
that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil 
deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, 
second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil 
deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. 

Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
 At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Ode,
 
 Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated water, 
  it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead 
  paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of 
  knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments 
  job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost 
  all fronts.
 
## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that 
 it CAN do that job.
   Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is 
 plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] 
 and can be bought elsewhere.
 
 
 
   The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters 
  and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government 
  interference.  It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages 
  needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the 
  CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary.
 
 ## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get 
 cut to make that price possible?
 The people work at cross purposes to themselves.
 Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come 
 in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it.
   Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer 
 demands, making a show for the voters who want and vote for the impossible.
 
You have it all backwards Ode.   You say we aren't willing to buy cars 
  that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers 
  in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to 
  their lack of quality economical green cars.  Give us a good car that 
  gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes.
 
 ##  NOW they will.  With all that hindsight at work.
   But Now due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to 
 protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious 
 NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that 
 DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made.
 
People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used 
  car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is 
  NOT in control when big business, big pharma, big oil and big 
  government is DICTATING what is to be available.
 
 ##  The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is 
 the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ]
 If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable 
 future* rather than for their egoic present desire, no dictate would have 
 been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and 
 simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven 
 fact...IN USE.
 So now people are stuck with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN 
 a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, 
 I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given 
 to me for anything but scrap.
 3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing.
 
 On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per 
 person.all it takes is some organization and planning,  but people 
 just will not do it.
 
 The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE 
 of what we bought into and want.
 So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the 
 impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do 
 just that.
 They are people too.
 We claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like 
 that's true.  No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we 
 deny we are.
 
 I do not have it backwards.
 Denial has warped reality perception to where the after effect and 
 resultant stop gap emergency dictate, becomes the cause.
 People believe they can live on credit cards too, then blame the banks when 
 they go broke paying the interest they didn't have in their own 
 futures.  [DUH! ]
 Dumb as posts and voting for more of the same, done by a new bunch of 
 representatives to kick later on.
 Meanwhile, the one guy that has the guts to say the Gov't can't do it, 
 [because it CAN'T and never could for very long without stepping on the 
 same toes it's trying to sidestep and 

CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY 
 
 
Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since 
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would 
make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children 
to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become 
mandatory for infants and toddlers. 

 
The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard 
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health. 
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker 
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).

 
A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the 
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to 
a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to 
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected 
officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats 
with financial ties to the vaccine industry.

 
Here are a few features of the proposed bill:

 
· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine 
the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made 
by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would 
automatically become mandatory.

 
· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would 
be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to 
the ACIP schedule

 
· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get 
annual flu shots.

 
· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma 
virus shot.

 
· All junior high school children and college students would be 
required to get meningococcal shots.

 
· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot 
given and parents would be required to maintain the records and 
provide them to school and other authorities.

 
· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no 
fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to 
spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in 
mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge 
increase that could be expected in the number of cases of 
neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused 
injuries. 

 
We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember 
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill 
guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local 
representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff 
know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it 
please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely, 
that this is a horrible law.

 
Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791
 





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RE: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread Silvia Messmer
OMG, will the maddness ever end??  This is a nightmare!

Silvia 

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY 
 
 
Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since 
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would 
make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children 
to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become 
mandatory for infants and toddlers. 

 
The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard 
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health. 
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker 
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).

 
A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the 
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to 
a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to 
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected 
officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats 
with financial ties to the vaccine industry.

 
Here are a few features of the proposed bill:

 
· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine 
the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made 
by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would 
automatically become mandatory.

 
· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would 
be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to 
the ACIP schedule

 
· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get 
annual flu shots.

 
· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma 
virus shot.

 
· All junior high school children and college students would be 
required to get meningococcal shots.

 
· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot 
given and parents would be required to maintain the records and 
provide them to school and other authorities.

 
· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no 
fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to 
spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in 
mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge 
increase that could be expected in the number of cases of 
neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused 
injuries. 

 
We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember 
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill 
guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local 
representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff 
know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it 
please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely, 
that this is a horrible law.

 
Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791
 





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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Jeff Shepler




    Sure...get your globe out, take the longitudinal line north and
south of Baghdad,  the next phase will be eastward to Alaska. Where
else?  Those earthquakes really softened them up, so cut off the
Iranian pipeline to China. Should be a piece of cake, don't get
excited, think of the opportunities ...the power!!!   Wait a minute,
isn't the world radioactive enough?   Dig..dig dig dig dig a fallout
shelter that is. I'm going to bury an old school bus in concrete, how
deep?

  Shep
  


  The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. 

Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
  
  
At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:



  Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated water, 
it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead 
paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of 
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments 
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost 
all fronts.
  

   ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that 
it CAN do that job.
  Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is 
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] 
and can be bought elsewhere.





   The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters 
and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government 
interference.  It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages 
needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the 
CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary.
  

## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get 
cut to make that price possible?
The "people" work at cross purposes to themselves.
Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come 
in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it.
  Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer 
demands, making a "show" for the voters who want and vote for the impossible.



You have it all backwards Ode.   You say we aren't willing to buy cars 
that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers 
in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to 
their lack of quality economical "green" cars.  Give us a good car that 
gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes.
  

##  NOW they will.  With all that hindsight at work.
  But "Now" due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to 
protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious 
NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that 
DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made.



People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used 
car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is 
NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big 
government is DICTATING what is to be available.
  

##  The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is 
the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ]
If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable 
future* rather than for their egoic present "desire", no dictate would have 
been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and 
simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven 
fact...IN USE.
So now people are "stuck" with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN 
a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, 
I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given 
to me for anything but scrap.
3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing.

On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per 
person.all it takes is some organization and planning,  but "people" 
just will not do it.

The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE 
of what we bought into and want.
So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the 
impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do 
just that.
"They" are people too.
"We" claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like 
that's true.  No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we 
deny we are.

I do not have it backwards.
Denial has warped reality 

Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
Pretty darn, Shepper!

 Jeff Shepler shep...@locl.net wrote: 


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Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread bbanever
WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy 
HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill. 
This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the 
vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual 
to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a 
result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any 
means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon 
for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and 
dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
- Original Message - 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY



Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would
make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children
to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become
mandatory for infants and toddlers.


The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health.
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).


A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to
a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected
officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats
with financial ties to the vaccine industry.


Here are a few features of the proposed bill:


· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine
the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made
by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would
automatically become mandatory.


· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would
be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to
the ACIP schedule


· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get
annual flu shots.


· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma
virus shot.


· All junior high school children and college students would be
required to get meningococcal shots.


· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot
given and parents would be required to maintain the records and
provide them to school and other authorities.


· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no
fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to
spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in
mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge
increase that could be expected in the number of cases of
neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused
injuries.


We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill
guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local
representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff
know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it
please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely,
that this is a horrible law.


Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791






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Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread Teri Kavakos
Thanks I called my local assemblywoman to let her know how I object to A 
10942 I as happy to report she does not support this bill and she is an 
R.N. who has worked for an ND in the past.


Teri


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Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
Just a little more genocide, ladies and gentleman.

 bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy 
 HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill. 
 This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the 
 vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual 
 to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a 
 result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any 
 means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon 
 for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and 
 dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
 - Original Message - 
 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
 Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY
 
 
 ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY
 
 
 Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since
 the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would
 make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children
 to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become
 mandatory for infants and toddlers.
 
 
 The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard
 Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health.
 The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker
 Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).
 
 
 A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the
 passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to
 a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to
 transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected
 officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats
 with financial ties to the vaccine industry.
 
 
 Here are a few features of the proposed bill:
 
 
 · Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine
 the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made
 by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would
 automatically become mandatory.
 
 
 · All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would
 be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to
 the ACIP schedule
 
 
 · All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get
 annual flu shots.
 
 
 · All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma
 virus shot.
 
 
 · All junior high school children and college students would be
 required to get meningococcal shots.
 
 
 · Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot
 given and parents would be required to maintain the records and
 provide them to school and other authorities.
 
 
 · The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no
 fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to
 spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in
 mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge
 increase that could be expected in the number of cases of
 neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused
 injuries.
 
 
 We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember
 and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill
 guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
 elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local
 representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff
 know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it
 please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely,
 that this is a horrible law.
 
 
 Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390
 
 Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Clayton Family
I'll tell you why.  The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure 
our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to 
buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were 
much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for 
more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of 
affairs.


It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel 
efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our 
chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves 
waiting for some future day's need.


Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas 
guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big 
problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own 
desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our 
grandkids.


This was inevitable.

kathryn

On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to 
realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they 
doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's 
the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, 
why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a 
guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we 
are going to blast next-Iran.


Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:

At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated 
water,

it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead
paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the 
governments
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on 
almost

all fronts.


   ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so 
that

it CAN do that job.
  Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 
gallons is
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your 
back]

and can be bought elsewhere.



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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
You think it was all done in our best interest?? It was done in the elites best 
interest, they don't give a shit about any of us, that's why they're killing us 
off. They have technology that's also been surpressed that would eneable a big 
ol' SUV to go 300 miles on a single gallon of gas. So who's interests do they 
have in mind by keeping that a secret??

Kurt
 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: 
 I'll tell you why.  The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure 
 our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to 
 buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were 
 much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for 
 more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of 
 affairs.
 
 It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel 
 efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our 
 chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves 
 waiting for some future day's need.
 
 Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas 
 guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big 
 problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own 
 desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our 
 grandkids.
 
 This was inevitable.
 
 kathryn
 
 On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 
  The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to 
  realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they 
  doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's 
  the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, 
  why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a 
  guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we 
  are going to blast next-Iran.
 
  Kurt
   Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:
 
  Ode,
 
 Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated 
  water,
  it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead
  paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of
  knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the 
  governments
  job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on 
  almost
  all fronts.
 
 ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so 
  that
  it CAN do that job.
Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 
  gallons is
  plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your 
  back]
  and can be bought elsewhere.
 
 
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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Jeff Shepler
  I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot 
straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's 
for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the 
best invention in the world was 6% compound interest.
  I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would 
have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it 
was a good move.
 I do borrow money for cars unfortunately,  2 more years and we'll have 
her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid 
HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if 
gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably 
not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new 
horizontal drilling techniques.


   Shep




I'll tell you why.  The decision was made back in the 70's to make 
sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we 
decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, 
which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the 
industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current 
state of affairs.


It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel 
efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our 
chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves 
waiting for some future day's need.


Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas 
guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big 
problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our 
own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for 
our grandkids.


This was inevitable.

kathryn

On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have 
to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are 
they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? 
That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting 
there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to 
take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the 
ones we are going to blast next-Iran.


Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:

At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated 
water,

it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead
paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the 
governments
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on 
almost

all fronts.


   ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency 
so that

it CAN do that job.
  Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 
gallons is
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on 
your back]

and can be bought elsewhere.



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Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread Faith Gagne
Unbelievable.  What is happening to this country anyway.  I hope they defeat 
it soundly, as my town redently defeated a fluoride proposal for town water. 
Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy
HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill.
This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the
vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual
to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a
result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any
means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon
for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and
dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
- Original Message - 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY



Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would
make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children
to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become
mandatory for infants and toddlers.


The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health.
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).


A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to
a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected
officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats
with financial ties to the vaccine industry.


Here are a few features of the proposed bill:


· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine
the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made
by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would
automatically become mandatory.


· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would
be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to
the ACIP schedule


· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get
annual flu shots.


· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma
virus shot.


· All junior high school children and college students would be
required to get meningococcal shots.


· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot
given and parents would be required to maintain the records and
provide them to school and other authorities.


· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no
fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to
spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in
mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge
increase that could be expected in the number of cases of
neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused
injuries.


We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill
guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local
representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff
know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it
please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely,
that this is a horrible law.


Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791






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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Faith Gagne


What does this message have to do with CS anyway?  I am really tired of this 
discussion.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Shepler shep...@locl.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika


  I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot 
straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's for 
sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the best 
invention in the world was 6% compound interest.
  I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would have 
paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it was a 
good move.
 I do borrow money for cars unfortunately,  2 more years and we'll have 
her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid HAHA 
...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if gas was 
ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably not. They are 
investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new horizontal drilling 
techniques.


   Shep




I'll tell you why.  The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure 
our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to 
buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were 
much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for 
more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs.


It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel 
efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our 
chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting 
for some future day's need.


Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas 
guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem 
before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires 
before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids.


This was inevitable.

kathryn

On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to 
realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they 
doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 
4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? 
The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at 
where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going 
to blast next-Iran.


Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:

At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated 
water,

it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  Lead
paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the 
governments
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on 
almost

all fronts.


   ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so 
that

it CAN do that job.
  Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 
gallons is
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your 
back]

and can be bought elsewhere.



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RE: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread Terry
And yet many believe that government-run health care is the only way to go.

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy 
HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill. 
This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the 
vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual

to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a 
result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any 
means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon 
for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and 
dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
- Original Message - 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since 
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would make 
all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children to 
attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become 
mandatory for infants and toddlers.


The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard 
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health. 
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker 
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).


A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the 
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to a 
philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to 
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected officials 
answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats with 
financial ties to the vaccine industry.


Here are a few features of the proposed bill:


· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine the 
mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made by the 
federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would 
automatically become mandatory.


· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would be 
required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to the 
ACIP schedule


· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get annual 
flu shots.


· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma 
virus shot.


· All junior high school children and college students would be 
required to get meningococcal shots.


· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot given 
and parents would be required to maintain the records and provide them 
to school and other authorities.


· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no fiscal 
impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to spend tens of 
millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in mandatory 
record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge increase that 
could be expected in the number of cases of neurological damage, 
Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused injuries.


We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember 
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill guarantees 
that you will do everything you can to get them un- elected. In 
addition to emailing and calling your local representatives, please 
call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff know, politely, that this 
is a disastrous idea. While you are at it please call Governor David 
Paterson and let his staff know, politely, that this is a horrible law.


Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791






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Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread kmilkowski
First thing you have to realize is this country is a corporation. It was 
incorporated in 1871 and is owned by the british crown. :) Surprise!

 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: 
 Unbelievable.  What is happening to this country anyway.  I hope they defeat 
 it soundly, as my town redently defeated a fluoride proposal for town water. 
 Faith G.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:44 PM
 Subject: Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY
 
 
 WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy
 HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill.
 This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the
 vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual
 to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a
 result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any
 means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon
 for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and
 dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
 - Original Message - 
 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
 Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY
 
 
 ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY
 
 
 Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since
 the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would
 make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children
 to attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become
 mandatory for infants and toddlers.
 
 
 The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard
 Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health.
 The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker
 Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).
 
 
 A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the
 passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to
 a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to
 transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected
 officials answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats
 with financial ties to the vaccine industry.
 
 
 Here are a few features of the proposed bill:
 
 
 · Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine
 the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made
 by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would
 automatically become mandatory.
 
 
 · All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would
 be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to
 the ACIP schedule
 
 
 · All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get
 annual flu shots.
 
 
 · All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma
 virus shot.
 
 
 · All junior high school children and college students would be
 required to get meningococcal shots.
 
 
 · Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot
 given and parents would be required to maintain the records and
 provide them to school and other authorities.
 
 
 · The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no
 fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to
 spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in
 mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge
 increase that could be expected in the number of cases of
 neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused
 injuries.
 
 
 We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember
 and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill
 guarantees that you will do everything you can to get them un-
 elected. In addition to emailing and calling your local
 representatives, please call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff
 know, politely, that this is a disastrous idea. While you are at it
 please call Governor David Paterson and let his staff know, politely,
 that this is a horrible law.
 
 
 Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390
 
 Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika

2008-05-29 Thread Jeff Shepler
  Sorry I'm new, don't want to step on any toes here, the discussion 
was intriguing for me, although off topic. The genius of the chemical 
lobotomizing  is the almost complete control with no self realization. 
It was one of the best attacks on the zombie slave system I've seen. 
This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do 
you see grasshopper? I have a silver puppy, BTW..Shepdog and his silver 
puppy   hahahahah


What does this message have to do with CS anyway?  I am really tired 
of this discussion.  Faith G.



- Original Message - From: Jeff Shepler shep...@locl.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika


  I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot 
straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's 
for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said 
the best invention in the world was 6% compound interest.
  I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would 
have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it 
was a good move.
 I do borrow money for cars unfortunately,  2 more years and we'll 
have her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I 
paid HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for 
Marathon) if gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and 
said probably not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil 
field w/new horizontal drilling techniques.


   Shep




I'll tell you why.  The decision was made back in the 70's to make 
sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we 
decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their 
reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch 
with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about 
the current state of affairs.


It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel 
efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve 
our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the 
reserves waiting for some future day's need.


Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas 
guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big 
problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our 
own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for 
our grandkids.


This was inevitable.

kathryn

On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have 
to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are 
they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? 
That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just 
sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is 
Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit 
is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran.


Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:

At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Ode,

   Please... I mean get real my friend.  Nobody buys fluoridated 
water,
it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government.  
Lead

paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of
knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the 
governments
job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on 
almost

all fronts.


   ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency 
so that

it CAN do that job.
  Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 
gallons is
plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on 
your back]

and can be bought elsewhere.



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