Re: CSAnother question
Sure, why not? Ode At 01:12 PM 12/15/2008 +, you wrote: I don't seem to be doing very well with my questions, but here goes again. Is it ok to tip a new batch of EIS into one which has been made for a couple of days? TIA dee No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo
The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- WARNING: This message may contain sarcasm, dark humor, disagreement, and honesty. In case of headache, elevated blood pressure, violent thoughts and/or rage, please discontinue use. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM
Re: CSAnother question
Put some plastic wrap over the jar, then screw the lid down. It's generally best to keep air away in long term storage and a narrow neck bottle limits surface area exposed to air. Ode At 08:10 PM 12/15/2008 +, you wrote: Hi Ma. Its just that I have found a smaller jar which fits the generator perfectly, but have had to make more CS. I have the original brewing jar to keep it in and want to tip the whole lot into that because the lid of the new jar still stinks of Branston pickle! This means I can't put the lid on because the CS smells and tastes disgusting! I have tried everything to get the smell out but nothing does. I don't know, I'm just a bit paranoid at the moment. Thanks for replying. Dee ---Original Message--- From: mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.netmarmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 15/12/2008 14:42:54 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnother question Hi Dee. I didn't see your original question. Sure it's OK to add new EIS to old -- why not? Some people use some of a previous batch to start a new one -- I can't see an ounce of difference. What's going on that you ask? MA No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpH of colloidal silver
Can someone explain to me the importance of pH in colloidal silver. I just recently had my silver tested and the pH was around 9 . Somehow it seems kind of high to me. Can someone tell me what the norm is for a good colloidal silver, how the pH is affected during the process and what the pros and cons are for different levels in colloidal silver? I use a Silver Gen and steam distilled water from the health food section of our store. I don't understand why the pH of my cs is so much higher than others that I see on the internet. thanks - Bethany
CSSovereign Silver will test CS
Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS
I just looked at the Sovereign Silver site and they test the particle size with an electron microscope which is totally bogus. Their product is mostly ions and should not be called colloidal silver since there is little to no colloidal particles in it. Frank Key will also test anyone's colloidal silver and has the correct test equipment ( $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer ) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver, A couple good books, DMSO, MSM
I ment to send this to the list. Somehow it went pvt to sol..Sorry bout that...Lois *There is another very good book--DMSO Nature's Healer By Dr Morton Walker. It was the first book I owned on the subject found it very useful. I use DMSO on the pups at times.--My brother uses MSM daily in the drinking water of his 13 yr old Newfy. ( He his wife raised champion Newfoundlands } * ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
Re: CSDMSO/rash
The DMSO gel I have seen definitely has ingredients in it which I am allergic to. So in addition to them being usually way too strong in DMSO I would get an allergic reaction not limited to the application site. I prefer to use 99% pure DMSO, diluted to between 10% and 30% with CS. I use a lot more DMSO at 10% than at 30% too. My skin is very sensitive to it. I have thought I am a person with high histamine at all times. So perhaps my inability to tolerate high percentage DMSO is due to the histamine release DMSO causes. Maybe your husdand is sensitive to an ingredient in the get, which the DMSO would take throughout the whole body, or perhaps he is sensitive to the histamine release. sol Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: I don't know if anyone remembers but last week I tried DMSO on hubby who has a really bad knee problem. The short story was: he came out in a rash, maybe because we put undiluted gel on instead of watering it down. The question is: would this still be causing a problem because he still has a rash in various places on his body; even though it was last Tuesday that it happened? TIA...dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs testing
I recently had my cs tested by soverein silver, and was very disappointed. They didn't tell me particle size, or content of particles vs. ions, and I was hoping for some more conclusive testing. ( They are the ones that said my cs pH was over 9). I paid $150. for info that really didn't tell me very much. Is there someone cheaper out there that will tell me more info? I got photos of my cs, but didn't get very much pertinent info. for all the hype on their website. I would like some very detailed testing. thanks - Bethany
FW: CSpH of colloidal silver
Beth, Have you tested the pH yourself? pH tests strips are inexpensive or you can make your own from red cabbage (http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/ht/makephpaper.htm). It would seem that the water you are using is the most likely cause since CS should be around 6.5 pH. If it is really 9 you can advertize it as a plus. :) See: From www.colloidalsolutions.co.uk/client/docs/silver_process.doc http://www.colloidalsolutions.co.uk/client/docs/silver_process.doc : AquaSafe's Colloidal Silver is the only colloidal silver in the test group analysed by the University of NSW, to have a pH greater than 7, meaning it was the only sample tested that was found to be alkaline. This higher pH aids absorption of the silver colloids, in the mouth, under the tongue and in the stomach. Personally, I don't worry about pH unless it makes the CS unappealing to take or causes the silver to precipitate out. The silver citrate I make is quite acidic, depending on the amount of citric acid I use in the making. - Steve N From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpH of colloidal silver Can someone explain to me the importance of pH in colloidal silver. I just recently had my silver tested and the pH was around 9 . Somehow it seems kind of high to me. Can someone tell me what the norm is for a good colloidal silver, how the pH is affected during the process and what the pros and cons are for different levels in colloidal silver? I use a Silver Gen and steam distilled water from the health food section of our store. I don't understand why the pH of my cs is so much higher than others that I see on the internet. thanks - Bethany -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS
Here is another source for testing particle size distribution: http://www.microtrac.com/labservices.cfm Here is Frank Keys lab: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labPrices.htm Ode has suggested that you contact where ever you go and ascertain if they can measure an ionic/particle mix. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS I just looked at the Sovereign Silver site and they test the particle size with an electron microscope which is totally bogus. Their product is mostly ions and should not be called colloidal silver since there is little to no colloidal particles in it. Frank Key will also test anyone's colloidal silver and has the correct test equipment ( $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer ) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstubborn virus
Marshall wrote: I really can't make a recommendation on using H2O2 in the lungs. On the plus side, the lungs use H2O2 made by the body to clear organic matter from the lungs. On the down side I have heard that if it is too strong when nebulized, it can produce copious amounts of foam, and cause suffocation. And wasn't it peroxide that was used when Jason's friend who was a smoker nearly went into arrest from the mobilization of nicotene? Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO/rash
This sounds a lot like what is happening to him Sol. He too is really sensitive to things such as even having weights resting on his arm will bring him up in lumps. Things like finishing plaster which he works with all the time will also do this. I gave him just five drops of stabilised oxygen once, and he had the 'runs' for a day and a half. I can have twenty drops of this three times a day with no ill effects, and when I have had computer mouse thumb' I have smothered it in DMSO gel and don't get any reaction at all. We have left everything off for the time being and are playing it by ear, so to speak, but ever since he had the DMSO his leg has been a lot better, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that it stays this way. Dee ---Original Message--- From: sol Date: 16/12/2008 18:50:31 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO/rash The DMSO gel I have seen definitely has ingredients in it which I am allergic to. So in addition to them being usually way too strong in DMSO I would get an allergic reaction not limited to the application site. I prefer to use 99% pure DMSO, diluted to between 10% and 30% with CS. I use a lot more DMSO at 10% than at 30% too. My skin is very sensitive to it. I have thought I am a person with high histamine at all times. So perhaps my inability to tolerate high percentage DMSO is due to the histamine release DMSO causes. Maybe your husdand is sensitive to an ingredient in the get, which the DMSO would take throughout the whole body, or perhaps he is sensitive to the histamine release. sol
RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS
The method that Frank Key uses to determine the ionic/particle ratio is to test the sample with the spectrometer, then use a centrifuge to precipitate all the particles and then measure again. From those two measurements the ratio can be calculated. Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Here is another source for testing particle size distribution: http://www.microtrac.com/labservices.cfm Here is Frank Keys lab: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labPrices.htm Ode has suggested that you contact where ever you go and ascertain if they can measure an ionic/particle mix. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS I just looked at the Sovereign Silver site and they test the particle size with an electron microscope which is totally bogus. Their product is mostly ions and should not be called colloidal silver since there is little to no colloidal particles in it. Frank Key will also test anyone's colloidal silver and has the correct test equipment ( $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer ) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother question
Lord alone knows Ode! Its just me having a senior moment under stress, again! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 16/12/2008 15:00:14 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnother question Sure, why not? Ode
Re: CSAnother question
Good idea Ode. My jar measures 65 cms across so can you tell me if those plastic caps on your site would fit this? Many thanks. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 16/12/2008 14:49:06 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnother question Put some plastic wrap over the jar, then screw the lid down. It's generally best to keep air away in long term storage and a narrow neck bottle limits surface area exposed to air. Ode
RE: CSCS test labs
Here is a lab in Canada that might be cheaper if you know exactly what to ask for: http://www.powders.ca/prf/Particlesize.htm http://www.powders.ca/prf/Service-Charges.pdf - Steve N -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS The method that Frank Key uses to determine the ionic/particle ratio is to test the sample with the spectrometer, then use a centrifuge to precipitate all the particles and then measure again. From those two measurements the ratio can be calculated. Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Here is another source for testing particle size distribution: http://www.microtrac.com/labservices.cfm Here is Frank Keys lab: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labPrices.htm Ode has suggested that you contact where ever you go and ascertain if they can measure an ionic/particle mix. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSovereign Silver will test CS I just looked at the Sovereign Silver site and they test the particle size with an electron microscope which is totally bogus. Their product is mostly ions and should not be called colloidal silver since there is little to no colloidal particles in it. Frank Key will also test anyone's colloidal silver and has the correct test equipment ( $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer ) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html Jim Meissner -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSovereign Silver will test CS Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStestimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a real lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer..Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was surprisingly accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Mike. I will give it a shot. Cheers, indi On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi Indi, Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... wink You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTest results
Morning List, It has been explained to me that a sizable quanitity of solution is required to perform all relevant testing as the testing should be done on an individual basis to achieve optimum accuracy. To perform such tests an adequate quantity is required for *each* test done which would mean a litre or more may be required, (that's just an example figure), and obviously it would need to be of the same 'batch' and not seperate batches to achieve the most accurate results for any required testing and for any given solution. For example, if one wants to know the ionic content a test is done for that, if one wants to know the particle content a seperate test is done for that, if one wants to know the size of the particles a seperate test is done for that and so on. That's how it has been explained to me to achieve optimum accuracy. Neville.
