Re: CSTooth update and dilemmas

2009-03-01 Thread gmetropulo




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If I could find a holistic dentist that would do the biological dental 
root canal I may choose that to retain my tooth but there is no one 
anywhere that I can find. I don't like the thought of a removable 
bridge always being in my mouth but a toxic root canal is destructive 
too. I just don't know.




My husband had his pulled, and the sick feeling was gone right away. He
felt better. Then he had to get a new bridge. If he had not gone
through all the root canal stuff, it would have been resolved faster,
and cost less money. The pulling cost around 300 dollars or so, then
the bridge was done when it healed up. That was spendy, but I am not
sure how much, since it went on the card. The root canal was done a
couple of times, and root planing a few times, and all kinds of other
stuff. So that was an expensive thing to go through, and to have to
pull it anyway. He felt bad for years with it, and it went away pretty
soon after it was pulled. 
 

I am not sure what you should do, your mileage may vary, but he does
not listen to the dentist about this kind of thing anymore. He still
has most of his teeth, but is not afraid of having them pulled AT ALL. 
 

I am gla
d you have gotten some relief, even if it is not complete. 
 

Best Wishes, Kathryn 
 

On Feb 28, 2009, at 5:53 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: 
 


I wanted to let you know the status of my attempts to address the
tooth pulp and nerve infection and share some info and my dilemma. 


...snip My daughter had this recently after an infected 

impacted

wisdom tooth and it was a nightmare. Both are permanent and
finalities. The toxic effects of radiation,aneshesia,pain killers,
antibiotics,toxic dental materials are all against my health protocol
to beat this lyme disease. What would you do? 

 


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Re: CSTooth update and dilemmas

2009-03-01 Thread sol

gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:
If I could find a holistic dentist that would do the biological dental 
root canal I may choose that to retain my tooth but there is no one 
anywhere that I can find. I don't like the thought of a removable 
bridge always being in my mouth but a toxic root canal is destructive 
too. I just don't know.


I see you are worried about having many further dental procedures due to 
bone infection, but do you know for sure the infection has actually 
spread to the jawbone yet?
If it hasn't everyday you leave the infected tooth in your mouth the 
higher the chances the infection WILL spread to the bone. (you did say 
the temorary crown had an opening/break?)
Which tooth is this? I have root canals, and have one titanium implant 
because if not for them I would have like only the back two molars on my 
upper left side, and I can't wear a bridge for a couple reasons.
So while theoretically I agree that root canals are not good (and had 3 
failures and further dental surgery) I still do not care to be toothless.
BUT, if my last tooth problem had been where it wouldn't be visible or 
obvious with every smile, I would simply have had the tooth pulled.

sol


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Re: CSTooth update and dilemmas

2009-03-01 Thread Day Sutton
Anyone that has not done so already, try to find a pamphlet by dr. Jerald
Judd called Good Teeth from Birth to Death.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:36 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:

 If I could find a holistic dentist that would do the biological dental
 root canal I may choose that to retain my tooth but there is no one anywhere
 that I can find. I don't like the thought of a removable bridge always being
 in my mouth but a toxic root canal is destructive too. I just don't know.

 I see you are worried about having many further dental procedures due to
 bone infection, but do you know for sure the infection has actually spread
 to the jawbone yet?
 If it hasn't everyday you leave the infected tooth in your mouth the higher
 the chances the infection WILL spread to the bone. (you did say the temorary
 crown had an opening/break?)
 Which tooth is this? I have root canals, and have one titanium implant
 because if not for them I would have like only the back two molars on my
 upper left side, and I can't wear a bridge for a couple reasons.
 So while theoretically I agree that root canals are not good (and had 3
 failures and further dental surgery) I still do not care to be toothless.
 BUT, if my last tooth problem had been where it wouldn't be visible or
 obvious with every smile, I would simply have had the tooth pulled.
 sol


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Re: CSTooth update and dilemmas

2009-03-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi. I'm glad that you're feeling a bit better, and understand your dilemna.  I 
sympathize with your feelings of not wanting to lose a tooth -- but it seems to 
me the tooth is already lost.  If it were I, I would have the tooth pulled and 
be done with these issues of pain and infection.  Particularly, if you have a 
healthy tooth on either side of the infected one, which can support a bridge to 
replace the missing tooth.  Which brings me to my question -- why would you 
have to have a removable partial?  I lost a molar on my lower right, and have a 
permanent bridge to replace it.  This has never caused me any problems or 
discomfort, so I don't understand the constant cleaning and degradation of the 
jaw bone.  I did have to take antibiotics prior to the tooth extraction, as 
I'm sure you would.  And I suspect that the ligament and bone scraping are 
probably contingent upon the amount of infection that your dentist would find.  
All of the toxic
 effects that you are worried about affecting your health protocol against Lyme 
don't hold a candle to the toxic effect of an ongoing tooth and possible bone 
infection.  Even an otherwise healthy body would have serious trouble dealing 
with that -- and yours is already doing battle with a difficult foe.  I think 
you would be doing your body a favor by resolving this in the fastest possible 
manner.  This is just my very humble opinion -- and the one that I would make 
for myself.  Whichever way you decide to go, I wish you good health.
Mary Ann





From: gmetrop...@aol.com gmetrop...@aol.com
To: lig...@theledman.net
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:53:50 PM
Subject: CSTooth update and dilemmas
The other choice of a removable partial is not a great trade off. The 
irritation and constant cleaning and degradation of the jaw bone are issues. 
And I'm told the ligament and scraping of the bone would be necessary. My 
daughter had this recently after an infected impacted wisdom tooth and it was a 
nightmare. Both are permanent and finalities. The toxic effects of 
radiation,aneshesia,pain killers, antibiotics,toxic dental materials are all 
against my health protocol to beat this lyme disease. What would you do?


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CSSerrapeptase update

2009-03-01 Thread Linda Ellis
Just thought I'd let you know of an observation.  My husband asked me the other 
day if I had anything around that would help him clear up his morning cough, 
which really is just something he does to break up the mucus every morning.  
After two nights taking the Serrapeptase, he claims he is much improved.  I'm 
not sure if part of it is a placebo effect or not.  

Also, I've been taking one a day since Thanksgiving, at bedtime, throwing in an 
occasional extra one when I wake up in the morning.  Went to the doctor and had 
my BP taken.  I didn't take it when I started the Serrapeptase, but previously 
it was running about 140/90.  Had it taken on Friday, and it was 135/84.  I 
haven't seen anything below 90 for a long time!  Maybe this is working.

Linda
Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try 
to be better than yourself. William Faulkner

RE: CSTooth update and dilemmas

2009-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Williams

i know of a biologic dentist in St. Louis Mo, his name is Mahoney. If you are 
interested 

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



 
 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:36:13 -0700
 From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSTooth update and dilemmas
 
 gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:
  If I could find a holistic dentist that would do the biological dental 
  root canal I may choose that to retain my tooth but there is no one 
  anywhere that I can find. I don't like the thought of a removable 
  bridge always being in my mouth but a toxic root canal is destructive 
  too. I just don't know.
 
 I see you are worried about having many further dental procedures due to 
 bone infection, but do you know for sure the infection has actually 
 spread to the jawbone yet?
 If it hasn't everyday you leave the infected tooth in your mouth the 
 higher the chances the infection WILL spread to the bone. (you did say 
 the temorary crown had an opening/break?)
 Which tooth is this? I have root canals, and have one titanium implant 
 because if not for them I would have like only the back two molars on my 
 upper left side, and I can't wear a bridge for a couple reasons.
 So while theoretically I agree that root canals are not good (and had 3 
 failures and further dental surgery) I still do not care to be toothless.
 BUT, if my last tooth problem had been where it wouldn't be visible or 
 obvious with every smile, I would simply have had the tooth pulled.
 sol
 
 
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Re: CSSerrapeptase update

2009-03-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
How kool is that, Linda?  Congrats on good news for you both.  Think I'll get 
busy and start taking the Serrapeptase that's sitting on my kitchen counter!! I 
hope you'll keep posting on this topic as things go along.  MA





From: Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net
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Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 2:05:52 PM
Subject: CSSerrapeptase update


Just thought I'd let you know of an observation.  My husband asked me the other 
day if I had anything around that would help him clear up his morning cough, 
which really is just something he does to break up the mucus every morning.  
After two nights taking the Serrapeptase, he claims he is much improved.  I'm 
not sure if part of it is a placebo effect or not.  

Also, I've been taking one a day since Thanksgiving, at bedtime, throwing in an 
occasional extra one when I wake up in the morning.  Went to the doctor and had 
my BP taken.  I didn't take it when I started the Serrapeptase, but previously 
it was running about 140/90.  Had it taken on Friday, and it was 135/84.  I 
haven't seen anything below 90 for a long time!  Maybe this is working.

Linda
Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try 
to be better than yourself. William Faulkner