Re: CS>Re: pain relief

2009-03-29 Thread Deborah Gerard
As far as the cataractsto prevent them I use msm drops to keep them from 
growing...i have heard about using coconut milk to disslove them if you get 
them...debbie

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Pat  wrote:

From: Pat 
Subject: Re: CS>Re: pain relief
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Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:15 PM






Last week my doctor told me to try swishing with diluted Braggs AC vinegar and 
then swallowing to try to help the lichen planus sore areas (cortisone cream 
didn't do much).  Wouldn't that be hard on the teeth?  Glad you had great 
results, Debbie!

Prolozone sounds good.  I don't really think it would help grow cartilage where 
none exists, and the leg is bowed and shorter because of the lack.  There has 
been research on growing cartilage  outside the body and then putting it in, 
but it's apparently not greatly successful.  I'd be willing to try ozone 
therapy, possibly, but there are very few people who do it.  

Acupuncture might relieve the pain, but it can't cure the cause, can it?  I 
guess if you keep it up forevertill the bones grind themselves down to nubs 
lol.  I wonder if acupuncture would help my daughter.  She has RSD (now called 
Complex Regional Pain Syndrome) in one leg which causes her great nerve pain.  
Over a couple months, she had maybe 13 epidurals which would relieve pain for 
about one full day and then it would return.  She was using a patch for pain, 
but weaned off that when she became pregnant.  Pain was better while nursing.  
Now she doesn't use much, but suffers quite a lot.  She's tried DMSO.  I think 
she should try bromelain, but she's scared to since she's very allergic to so 
much and even a generic Benadryl caused huge problems.  

I asked my opthalmologist again if there is anything that can get rid of 
cataracts.  He said that the cataract is like an egg white, in that once the 
protein has changed (as in cooking), it cannot be changed back.  He said the 
only thing he "knows" is that antioxidants should be used to help prevent 
changes in the eyes.  And, he added, shield the eyes from the sun.  

It's difficult to find anyone who does alternative-medicine type therapies in 
the south east USA.


 Pat













A friend used acupuncture for his knee.  He said it relieved all pain but it 
was back in a day or two.  I think he tried it twice, then gave up.

                                                                                
                                                         Pat













  

Re: CS>Re: pain relief

2009-03-29 Thread Pat
Last week my doctor told me to try swishing with diluted Braggs AC vinegar and 
then swallowing to try to help the lichen planus sore areas (cortisone cream 
didn't do much).  Wouldn't that be hard on the teeth?  Glad you had great 
results, Debbie!

Prolozone sounds good.  I don't really think it would help grow cartilage where 
none exists, and the leg is bowed and shorter because of the lack.  There has 
been research on growing cartilage  outside the body and then putting it in, 
but it's apparently not greatly successful.  I'd be willing to try ozone 
therapy, possibly, but there are very few people who do it.  

Acupuncture might relieve the pain, but it can't cure the cause, can it?  I 
guess if you keep it up forevertill the bones grind themselves down to nubs 
lol.  I wonder if acupuncture would help my daughter.  She has RSD (now called 
Complex Regional Pain Syndrome) in one leg which causes her great nerve pain.  
Over a couple months, she had maybe 13 epidurals which would relieve pain for 
about one full day and then it would return.  She was using a patch for pain, 
but weaned off that when she became pregnant.  Pain was better while nursing.  
Now she doesn't use much, but suffers quite a lot.  She's tried DMSO.  I think 
she should try bromelain, but she's scared to since she's very allergic to so 
much and even a generic Benadryl caused huge problems.  

I asked my opthalmologist again if there is anything that can get rid of 
cataracts.  He said that the cataract is like an egg white, in that once the 
protein has changed (as in cooking), it cannot be changed back.  He said the 
only thing he "knows" is that antioxidants should be used to help prevent 
changes in the eyes.  And, he added, shield the eyes from the sun.  

It's difficult to find anyone who does alternative-medicine type therapies in 
the south east USA.


 Pat




A friend used acupuncture for his knee.  He said it relieved all pain but it 
was back in a day or two.  I think he tried it twice, then gave up.


 Pat


  

CS>Re: pain relief

2009-03-29 Thread Deborah Gerard

I have been using a mixture that Harold told me about and have gotten some 
really good results. A mixture of half Braggs vinegar and half raw honey mixed. 
I take two tablespoons daily in water. My shoulder joints and hips were keeping 
me up at night throbbing but no more since I started taking this...and my BP 
has gone down too...debbie
--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Day Sutton  wrote:

From: Day Sutton 
Subject: Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 3:39 PM


prolotherapy or prolozone will cure any arthritis in any joint. Please google 
and find out for yourself


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A friend used acupuncture for his knee.  He said it relieved all pain but it 
was back in a day or two.  I think he tried it twice, then gave up.

                                                                                
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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Bob Banever

Pat,

   Giving up was a mistake.  If he experienced pain relief even temporarily 
than further treatments would have given him more longer lasting or 
permanent pain relief.


   Bob
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A friend used acupuncture for his knee.  He said it relieved all pain but 
it was back in a day or two.  I think he tried it twice, then gave up.



Pat





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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Day Sutton
prolotherapy or prolozone will cure any arthritis in any joint. Please
google and find out for yourself

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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Pat



A friend used acupuncture for his knee.  He said it relieved all pain but it 
was back in a day or two.  I think he tried it twice, then gave up.


  Pat


  


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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Day Sutton
google "Prolotherapy" or "Prolozone"

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Bob Banever wrote:

> Pat,
>
>   Acupuncture can relieve much, if not all of the pain in the knee.
>
>   Bob
> - Original Message - From: "Pat" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver
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>> I'm so glad you reminded me about bromelain.  I'll start on that tonight.
>> I have some, but it didn't do anything for the arthritis in the amount I
>> tried, so I rarely used it.  Also, I got my EpiCor today and have started on
>> that.
>>
>> When a knee is bone-on-bone on the medial side, I don't think manipulation
>> or anything much short of replacement will help.
>>
>> Thanks so much for all the suggestions and help.
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Consider taking bromelain before and after surgery.
>> Bromelain really works well.  See extract below:
>>
>> Dan
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Re: CS>Colon cleanse

2009-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote

At 10:22 AM 3/28/2009 -0500, you wrote:


not everyone has pockets in the gut.

On Mar 27, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Gayla Roberts wrote:

Diahhrea may not clean out the pockets of impacted stuff in the 
intestines. In fact it probably wont.


Doesn't CS kill the good bacteria in the gut?



##  Only if Diahhrea emptied it...which makes CS work real good on food 
poisoning soon after you are very sure you have it.


Ode



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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Bob Banever

Pat,

   Acupuncture can relieve much, if not all of the pain in the knee.

   Bob
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I'm so glad you reminded me about bromelain.  I'll start on that tonight. 
I have some, but it didn't do anything for the arthritis in the amount I 
tried, so I rarely used it.  Also, I got my EpiCor today and have started 
on that.


When a knee is bone-on-bone on the medial side, I don't think manipulation 
or anything much short of replacement will help.


Thanks so much for all the suggestions and help.


Pat




Consider taking bromelain before and after surgery.
Bromelain really works well.  See extract below:

Dan





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Re: CS>IV Colloidal Silver

2009-03-29 Thread Gaiacita
Yes--the stretches in the book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue will do the trick. 
I've seen it work miracles on "bone on bone" issues.  When you start out, it
can take up to 40 minutes to do the stretches in the morning.  Once the pain
is gone you get down to about 10 minutes a day to keep the pain away.

Samala,
Renee

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When a knee is bone-on-bone on the medial side, I don't think manipulation
or anything much short of replacement will help.