CSNew Name for~/[LIST-WITHOUT-WAYNE] grin
BATz, just-kidding...Guess Chuck was already in BED and Sleeping, or perhaps still-weighing his-risk, in responding to another OFF-TOPIC ??? (Maybe working on...Weapons-of-Math-Instruction, after Algebra Humor) List-Without-Wayne ...would be like saying NO-Wayne -- NO-PAIN... (I know, that was a Dirty (Old Bat) TRICK, but likely everyone will lQQK!) Just to get this ON-TOPIC, for a BATz Safety...(and longer-life on LIST), let me ask Wayne, if his recent posting on POT powered CS generator has AUTO-REVERSE for Electrodes, or needs OPERATOR assistance? Ya know...only takes Milli-amps (leakage), to FLAG...LINE-OFF-HOOK, then, without dialing-number...operator warning-message, then OH~NO! Ernestine/(Lily Tomlin), sends POT repairman...to RIP your Phone Out? Sure miss LAUGH-IN, TV~Sitcom POTS/ www.tinyurl.com/dzd6hk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9e3dTOJi0o POT-HUMOR, enjoy..? Seriously, did anyone read John's REAL-CS Msg. posted 5 days ago..? (It appears unless we Post OT-Theme/Message-Title...no one SEES-IT) --- On Tue, 4/28/09, john freese jrf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com Subject: CSReverse polarity circuit To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:56 PM Hello, Could someone please post instructions on how to build a reverse polarity circuit for a 45dc volt CS system? I looked in the archives but I must be blind. Thank you. John. John NOT-BLIND and message from last Tuesday (5 days ago) is valid and should be Brought Back into CIRCULATION, as this is something that was/is ON-TOPIC! Just curious, are there actually any members on CS-LIST... that can HELP John? John Mike, I got replys last week...BAT delayed, due to personal Guano! grin ...and NOW...Batz return you to Message from Smitty...(Mike to follow...shortly)? --- On Sun, 5/3/09, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSNew Name for the list To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 4:56 PM A new Name for the list... Sitcom Wayne = You, as many others on this list are NOT listening to Mike. If it ain't about CS, it goes in the SO slot. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShow and tell
It didn't cure my Buddies brain cancer..and he smoked a bunch of bud. Somebody elses? sure, maybe. Useful stuff anyhow, that bud Ode At 07:23 AM 5/3/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Those buds are effective for alot more than excess phlegm. Recent studies suggest it will cure glioblastoma (brain cancer). Visit Phoenix Tears for more on this interesting subject. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:53 AM Subject: CSShow and tell IMO, this whole Swine flu thing is about showing the public that they can depend on Gov't to take care of them, thus, their money is being well spent in that quarter to distract from it being thrown into numerous black holes virtually every where else. Much ado about nothing much. It's a socialized medicine propaganda Trust us campaign. Make a show of it where it doesn't matter. But of it were something like H5N1 avian flu with an 80+% mortality rate WITH intensive hospital care..forget it. The system would crumble with a few of thousand cases, socialized or not. The 1976 Swine Flu panic had Gov't forcing the Pharm into releasing a vaccine prematurely...under protest. That flu killed 1 person, the rest, the *vaccine* killed or injured them. Uhh, thanks for all the concern? The H5N1 avian flu itself isn't deadly, your own immune system over responds and drowns you with phlegm. Ain't nuthin like a good case of cotton mouth to dry up the ole lungs. I've SEEN just a couple of tokes almost instantly clean up a congestive cough bad enough to turn that person blue for 3 days and 3 sleepless nights from lack of air when literally NOTHING else worked...and we did try every legal everything, even the opiates. One little bud stays in my medicine chest...you betcher boots. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal vs. ionic silver
At 04:09 PM 5/3/2009 +, you wrote: Hello, I am new to the list. Your archives are down and so I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions... Please can somebody tell me what the difference is between colloidal and ionic silver? Colloidal suspension: Particles small enough to stay suspended in water. Ionic solution: One atom plus or minus an electron, dissolved in water. Both are safe to ingest. Neither will cause Argyria unless enough silver is RETAINED in the body. Either can cause Agyria..except..ionic silver has a maximum concentration before it becomes colloidal when the solubility limits of the water are exceeded...unless the silver is in a more highly soluble compound such as Silver Citrate..also considered an ionic solution. Having an abnormal metals elimination system is almost a requirement for Smurfdom at virtually any exposure level and duration. Agyria is a **combination** of problems that include silver, therefore, silver doesn't **cause** it...it's the combination that does. The Agyria rate for those who work silver...miners, refiners etc that are exposed to massive amounts daily for decades is around 1 in 2,000. Normally, Oral doses of Silver [in any form] are eliminated at the rate of around 97% within 48 hours and inhaled DUST at 94% within 30 days. You can imagine how hard it is to find blue people to head up the Smurf parade of horrors? ..they'll keep sifting though the millions and find one now and then...and often doctor up the photo shoots. All production methods that use electricity and water make nothing BUT ionic silver. Particles come later as solubility limits of water are exceeded, often in high concentration zones near the electrodes [Nernst Diffusion layer] and consist of varying ratios of Silver Hydroxide, Silver Oxide and metallic silver with generally between 85 to 97% remaining ionic over all. Particle sizes and numbers determined by a TEM [electron microscope] are completely bogus. Those are photos of silver oxide particles made OUT OF Ions by preparing the sample for testing and were never in the water With 85 to 97% being ionic, that being as small as it can be and still be silver and anything bigger is not an Ionparticle size is virtually irrelevant. That's like 3 specks of pepper in a spoon of salt. If you turn all the salt INTO pepper, then you get a TEM photo of particles If it's small enough to get in, it's small enough to get out. Too big to get in? Doesn't need to get out. [Free pass..through] Membranes in the body make pretty darned good Osmosis filters. Those filters are even ion selective by virtue of what's behind them. Worry is what gives ya the Blues, way beyond the capabilit-EIS of Silver. Ode Is it particle size and method of production? Which is safer to ingest for medicinal purposes, colloidal or ionic silver, in terms of preventing agyria problems? Many thanks Rachel -- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos Free. Try it Now! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Gel
DMSO is water soluble, you can add as much as you want to. Personally, I'd not exceed 10%, but some people use the stuff straight up. Be aware that DMSO generates heat when mixed with water...and skin etc has water in it. ode At 09:27 AM 5/3/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ode, How much DMSO can or should one add to the CS gel? Does it depend upon area applied or condition the gel is used for? Thank you. S-Max -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShow and tell
I dunno if it'll dry up a heart, but it'll sure dry up mouth , nose and lungs...and eyes. [ gets the red eye ..in ] ...no alternatives? worth a try. At least it might ease the chest pains. ..might die happier, or is that Hippier? Like most anything else, built up tolerance can make it less effective. [ I'm a REALLY cheap date. Aunti Gravity might make you high, but One smoke and Uncle Gravity wins the upright fight. A McDonalds burger and a single toke makes the heals go round? A beer and A nap, are interchangeable words in the singular...both pillow talk..Bud-Wiser ] Ode At 03:25 PM 5/3/2009 -0400, you wrote: So...Ode... What I take from this is that MJ might be a first aid for conjestive heart failure? Chuck Lord, Keep Your arm around my shoulder, and, Your hand over my mouth! On 5/3/2009 5:53:35 AM, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@windstream.net) wrote: The H5N1 avian flu itself isn't deadly, your own immune system over responds and drowns you with phlegm. Ain't nuthin like a good case of cotton mouth to dry up the ole lungs. I've SEEN just a couple of tokes almost instantly clean up a congestive cough bad enough to turn that person blue for 3 days and 3 sleepless nights from lack of air when literally NOTHING else worked...and we did try every legal everything, even the opiates. One little bud stays in my medicine chest...you betcher boots. Ode No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHigh particle EIS
Hi Steve, you said you 'sometimes generate a yellow solution'. Can you tell me if you deliberately did this and if so, how? Only I have just tried to make a stronger solution of silver by running my automatic generator using RP the when it turned off, I unplugged it and then started it up manually. I then let it run for another three hours. This made EIS at approximately 26ppm after settling. The only thing was, that after three days it turned yellow so I'm wondering why this was. Any thoughts? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve Date: 04/05/2009 05:12:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Neville, Thanks for the info. I will think on it a while. The reason I asked was not to question your claim but I also prefer to increase the amount of small silver particles even at the expense of silver ions (up to a point). I sometimes generate a yellow solution, let it stabilize and then add H2O2 to convert the agglomerated silver and some of the ionic silver to small silver particles. I do this because it would appear that the ionic silver, converted to silver chloride in the stomach, gives a quick punch while the silver particles gives an extended effect. I don't have proof of this. Additionally in vitro tests have shown that silver particles work directly on bacteria and viruses as well as the ions so why not have plenty of both. faint_grain.jpg
CSRE: colloidal vs. ionic silver
Many thanks Mike and Neville for excellent info on colloidal vs. ionic silver. Very helpful indeed. I will look into purchasing a silver generator. Thanks again, Rachel. _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
I don't know. Wrked for me just now... Try again. Dan On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: There wasn't anywhere I could type my name in! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Betty Shelly Date: 02/05/2009 23:47:42 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic Good one, Dan! For all you put-upon people. Go to the following link and type in your name. It will make you feel much better! http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~geoffo/humour/flattery.html Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnets
I hate to get involved in this controversy again, but, as far as I can determine, the negative magnetic pole is the same as the North pole (it is the same as the north pole of the earth). It is not the same as the north seeking pole (which is the south pole...) Dan On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mary. Yes, the magnets will help with pain management. Just be sure that the negative side (the north seeking side) of the magnet is placed on her skin. The positive side will work, but it's best in the long run to have the negative side towards the skin. That side can be used permanently. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The docs have her so scared and on sooo many pills she is in much pain, she has edema, feet burn, I thought maybe a magnets might help with the pain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShow and tell
Ode, Smoking won't do it. Not nearly enough THC will enter the cells. You need to make and consume marijuana oil. This is a highly concentrated extract from the leaves and flowers. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:09 AM Subject: Re: CSShow and tell It didn't cure my Buddies brain cancer..and he smoked a bunch of bud. Somebody elses? sure, maybe. Useful stuff anyhow, that bud Ode At 07:23 AM 5/3/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Those buds are effective for alot more than excess phlegm. Recent studies suggest it will cure glioblastoma (brain cancer). Visit Phoenix Tears for more on this interesting subject. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:53 AM Subject: CSShow and tell IMO, this whole Swine flu thing is about showing the public that they can depend on Gov't to take care of them, thus, their money is being well spent in that quarter to distract from it being thrown into numerous black holes virtually every where else. Much ado about nothing much. It's a socialized medicine propaganda Trust us campaign. Make a show of it where it doesn't matter. But of it were something like H5N1 avian flu with an 80+% mortality rate WITH intensive hospital care..forget it. The system would crumble with a few of thousand cases, socialized or not. The 1976 Swine Flu panic had Gov't forcing the Pharm into releasing a vaccine prematurely...under protest. That flu killed 1 person, the rest, the *vaccine* killed or injured them. Uhh, thanks for all the concern? The H5N1 avian flu itself isn't deadly, your own immune system over responds and drowns you with phlegm. Ain't nuthin like a good case of cotton mouth to dry up the ole lungs. I've SEEN just a couple of tokes almost instantly clean up a congestive cough bad enough to turn that person blue for 3 days and 3 sleepless nights from lack of air when literally NOTHING else worked...and we did try every legal everything, even the opiates. One little bud stays in my medicine chest...you betcher boots. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnets
If you think this is confusing, just wait for the predicted pole shift of the earth... Course, then it probably won't matter too much. Dan On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to get involved in this controversy again, but, as far as I can determine, the negative magnetic pole is the same as the North pole (it is the same as the north pole of the earth). It is not the same as the north seeking pole (which is the south pole...) Dan On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mary. Yes, the magnets will help with pain management. Just be sure that the negative side (the north seeking side) of the magnet is placed on her skin. The positive side will work, but it's best in the long run to have the negative side towards the skin. That side can be used permanently. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The docs have her so scared and on sooo many pills she is in much pain, she has edema, feet burn, I thought maybe a magnets might help with the pain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWHO head indicates flu will reach pandemic
MADRID, May 4 (Reuters) - The World Health Organisation is likely to raise its alert for the new influenza strain to the highest level and declare a pandemic, its head indicated in an interview published on Monday. Level six does not mean, in any way, that we are facing the end of the world. It is important to make this clear because (otherwise) when we announce level six it will cause an unnecessary panic, Margaret Chan, WHO Director General told Spanish newspaper El Pais. Flu viruses are very unpredictable, very deceptive...We should not be overconfident. One must not give H1N1 the opportunity to mix with other viruses. That is why we are on alert, she told the newspaper. Chan warned against over-confidence following a stabilisation in the number of new cases of H1N1 because the southern hemisphere was about to enter winter when flu cases naturally spike. We have to be very careful. No one can predict what is going to happen when countries in the south have flu peaks and this new one arrives -- which it is going to do, without a doubt. It is true that the number (of cases in people who have not been to Mexico) is small but because of that I would say that we have not seen the full situation or the whole picture of what is happening. The situation is evolving and the virus is changing. She said it was too early to predict what proportion of the population would catch the new influenza strain after the European Union predicted 40 percent of the population would become infected. (Reporting by Ben Harding) Link http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL4493877 Another http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5431R520090504 -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
It just says 'automatic flatterer, have a good day anyway' it doesn't give you anywhere to type in anything! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dan Nave Date: 04/05/2009 15:32:43 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic I don't know. Wrked for me just now... Try again. Dan faint_grain.jpg
FW: CSReverse polarity circuit
The circuit is not simple and would be hard to describe without schematics. The simplest approach would be a 555 timer driving a 5 volt DPDT relay. You can get cheap relays surplus at sites like Electronic Goldmine. Or if someone is knowledgeable about electronics they can use transistors or FETs in an H-bridge configuration. - Steve N From: batz...@yahoo.com [mailto:batz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew Name for~/[LIST-WITHOUT-WAYNE] grin ... Seriously, did anyone read John's REAL-CS Msg. posted 5 days ago..? (It appears unless we Post OT-Theme/Message-Title...no one SEES-IT) --- On Tue, 4/28/09, john freese jrf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com Subject: CSReverse polarity circuit To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:56 PM Hello, Could someone please post instructions on how to build a reverse polarity circuit for a 45dc volt CS system? I looked in the archives but I must be blind. Thank you. John. John NOT-BLIND and message from last Tuesday (5 days ago) is valid and should be Brought Back into CIRCULATION, as this is something that was/is ON-TOPIC! Just curious, are there actually any members on CS-LIST... that can HELP John?
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
Same here. MA From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:10:33 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic It just says 'automatic flatterer, have a good day anyway' it doesn't give you anywhere to type in anything! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dan Nave Date: 04/05/2009 15:32:43 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic I don't know. Wrked for me just now... Try again. Dan
Re: CSMagnets
Dan wrote: ---Original Message--- I hate to get involved in this controversy again, but, as far as I can determine, the negative magnetic pole is the same as the North pole (it is the same as the north pole of the earth). It is not the same as the north seeking pole (which is the south pole...) Yep, we went through a really extended exploration of this topic a few years back... The take home message I've relied on since is this: The north pole of the earth is of the same type that we will most often want to use for healing or soothing applications. So if you hang a magnet on a string it will allign with the magnetic field and the pole that's pointing to the *south* will be of the same character as the earth's north pole and the one you want to use. So it's actually the pole of the magnet that seeks the earth's south pole that will, a) attract the north pointing end of a compass needle, and, b) have the healing/soothing qualities that we're looking for most of the time. Here's hoping that helps make it clear! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
I think it's a JOKE
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 11:16 AM
Same here. MA
From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
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---Original Message---
From: Dan Nave
Date: 04/05/2009 15:32:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
I don't know. Wrked for me just now...
Try again.
Dan
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
In Opera I get a little popup with a space to type in my name. Maybe you have popups blocked, or javascript disabled? On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:10:33PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: It just says 'automatic flatterer, have a good day anyway' it doesn't give you anywhere to type in anything! Dee ---Original Message--- From: [1]Dan Nave Date: 04/05/2009 15:32:43 To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic I don't know. Wrked for me just now... Try again. Dan References Visible links 1. mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com 2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnets/ Poles and direction.......... PHTUI!
I've always admired those immortality nose rings. But who wants to see an old lady like me with a nose ring... On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:01:06PM -0500, Gaiacita wrote: Good thing your Immortality rings are for the little fingers, and not your natural magnetic ear finger--otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell up from down. Or, like Wayne, you'd be seeing N, S, E and W all as the same direction! It'd be cornfusn'. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- That reminds me. I gotta go find where I put my Alex Chiu Immortality rings. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHigh particle EIS
Dee, I have a manual unit and all I have to do to get yellow EIS is run it long enough. I do this deliberately to take advantage of Marshall's protocol of using H2O2 to convert the larger yellow silver particles to small colorless silver particles. This gives a high ppm quality EIS/CS solution. In your case, it is very difficult to make a high ppm stable EIS solution. After EIS is made, it takes several days for the EIS to fully stabilize. During the days your solution is stabilizing it continues to form agglomerated silver particles giving it the yellow color. There isn't anything you can do to prevent this other than making lower ppm solutions. However, after the stabilization is complete you can add a little H2O2 to the EIS and you should see the yellow color disappear. The H2O2 breaks the larger silver particles into the small silver particles. that are desirable. Your new EIS solution will read as having a lower ppm than the original reading but this is because some of the silver ions have been converted to silver particles and your measurement method only measures ionic silver and not silver particles. The silver particles are not a bad thing because the silver particles are very small and may be just as effective as the silver ions. - Steve N From: Dee Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Hi Steve, you said you 'sometimes generate a yellow solution'. Can you tell me if you deliberately did this and if so, how? Only I have just tried to make a stronger solution of silver by running my automatic generator using RP the when it turned off, I unplugged it and then started it up manually. I then let it run for another three hours. This made EIS at approximately 26ppm after settling. The only thing was, that after three days it turned yellow so I'm wondering why this was. Any thoughts? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com Date: 04/05/2009 05:12:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Neville, Thanks for the info. I will think on it a while. The reason I asked was not to question your claim but I also prefer to increase the amount of small silver particles even at the expense of silver ions (up to a point). I sometimes generate a yellow solution, let it stabilize and then add H2O2 to convert the agglomerated silver and some of the ionic silver to small silver particles. I do this because it would appear that the ionic silver, converted to silver chloride in the stomach, gives a quick punch while the silver particles gives an extended effect. I don't have proof of this. Additionally in vitro tests have shown that silver particles work directly on bacteria and viruses as well as the ions so why not have plenty of both. faint_grain.jpg
RE: CSHigh particle EIS
Thanks so much Steve, for your very clear explanation. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve Date: 04/05/2009 18:47:21 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHigh particle EIS Dee, I have a manual unit and all I have to do to get yellow EIS is run it long enough. I do this deliberately to take advantage of Marshall's protocol of using H2O2 to convert the larger yellow silver particles to small colorless silver particles. This gives a high ppm quality EIS/CS solution. In your case, it is very difficult to make a high ppm stable EIS solution. After EIS is made, it takes several days for the EIS to fully stabilize. During the days your solution is stabilizing it continues to form agglomerated silver particles giving it the yellow color. There isn't anything you can do to prevent this other than making lower ppm solutions. However, after the stabilization is complete you can add a little H2O2 to the EIS and you should see the yellow color disappear. The H2O2 breaks the larger silver particles into the small silver particles. that are desirable. Your new EIS solution will read as having a lower ppm than the original reading but this is because some of the silver ions have been converted to silver particles and your measurement method only measures ionic silver and not silver particles. The silver particles are not a bad thing because the silver particles are very small and may be just as effective as the silver ions. - Steve N From: Dee Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Hi Steve, you said you 'sometimes generate a yellow solution'. Can you tell me if you deliberately did this and if so, how? Only I have just tried to make a stronger solution of silver by running my automatic generator using RP the when it turned off, I unplugged it and then started it up manually. I then let it run for another three hours. This made EIS at approximately 26ppm after settling. The only thing was, that after three days it turned yellow so I'm wondering why this was. Any thoughts? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve Date: 04/05/2009 05:12:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Neville, Thanks for the info. I will think on it a while. The reason I asked was not to question your claim but I also prefer to increase the amount of small silver particles even at the expense of silver ions (up to a point). I sometimes generate a yellow solution, let it stabilize and then add H2O2 to convert the agglomerated silver and some of the ionic silver to small silver particles. I do this because it would appear that the ionic silver, converted to silver chloride in the stomach, gives a quick punch while the silver particles gives an extended effect. I don't have proof of this. Additionally in vitro tests have shown that silver particles work directly on bacteria and viruses as well as the ions so why not have plenty of both. faint_grain.jpg
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
That could be it Indi, because I get a little message pops up in explorer to allow pop ups, but when I click to 'allow' nothing happens still. I expect I have set too strict regulations on my browser because of having had viruses before. Thanks for your help. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Indi Date: 04/05/2009 18:30:03 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic In Opera I get a little popup with a space to type in my name. Maybe you have popups blocked, or javascript disabled? faint_grain.jpg
CSBats, Pots, A CS note
Evening batzcuz, Thanks for the message, I think. I understood all that. I liked your message very much. At 01:50 AM 5/4/2009, you wrote: Ya know...only takes Milli-amps (leakage), to FLAG...LINE-OFF-HOOK, then, without dialing-number...operator warning-message, then OH~NO! Seems I figured out, How to outsmart the phone line, and the phone company, Many years ago. sends POT repairman...to RIP your Phone Out? MY phone line does not work, as you describe. Relative to the CS generator, I covered ,most of that long ago also There are zero problems with my phone line generator. The main point I made, lin the past. Keep a log file, from the first batch. Time, current flow, and the results. Yes all beginners should keep a log file. I did it from Day 1, The first batch. I had all the instruments, and the timers, so nothing to it. A small spiral binder is nice. Then, when the beginner reaches the advanced stage, they can look at their records, and amaze themselves. The eyes, the mind, and several things will work to make decisions, Color, sediment, and every condition one can name. I can even reject water.. by observation. I will not mention that no ppm meter exists in the world today. Scientist tell me, they measure pH and calculate ppm. Of course others, use methods Measure, calculate, and Guesstimate You can make CS in muddy water, blood, and beer. So, the rule of the game. Is to Make CS the way you want to do it. Wayne Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShow and tell
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Re: CSMagnets
Could very well be. I'm always confused by these terms--which is why I use positive and negative. All I know for sure is that the negative (healing) pole will pull a compass needle TOWARDS it. Which is why I said north seeking. I could just be using the wrong phrase. And that whole pole shift thing--I will be crazed, because then my wet magnetic ear finger won't work anymore! Sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I hate to get involved in this controversy again, but, as far as I can determine, the negative magnetic pole is the same as the North pole (it is the same as the north pole of the earth). It is not the same as the north seeking pole (which is the south pole...)
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
Kirsteen Wright wrote: On 5/2/09, *Paula Perry* p...@zoomnet.net mailto:p...@zoomnet.net wrote: Kathryn, First of all, I did not think that Swine Flu was a political topic. I went back and read the article again and I still don't see that it was political in nature. Posts about how to avoid swine flu or how to prepare for it to minimise it's effects are obviously health related but, in my opinion, I don't see how anyone could argue that the following paragraph isn't totally political in nature. this was totally a UN WHO plot to release a virus that would cull the human herd. Martial law will come with this or future waves in the next several months. This is the Final END GAME of the Global Elite, to fullfill Global 2000, NSSM 1974 population threat alerts, 1996 UN Population control documents, all calling for massive reduction in World Human Populations. Last week, the UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown called for a reduction from 60 to 30 million. Kirsteen I see nothing political aobout this at all. This would be Illuminati/elitist actions, has noting to do with politics at all. However they are going to fail, the virus seems to quickly lose it potency after seeding. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnets, Pole Shift
At 02:47 PM 5/4/2009, you wrote: And that whole pole shift thing--I will be crazed, because then my wet magnetic ear finger won't work anymore! Sigh That does not mean, they change from North to South Only shift a number of degrees. The Time Factor is the thing. Time, Space, and Force ! Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
FW: CSMy best effort at making CS
Arnold, Your test results are both interesting and somewhat surprising. I have always used some form of stirring, even when I have used a four inch separation between electrodes. With your one gallon setup you are getting the performance of the sophisticated, automated generators but without the cost or complexity. One question though - do you think the performance of the half gallon setup would be improved by adding a plastic barrier between the positive and negative electrodes to increase the electrical path length between them to something equivalent to the one gallon 4 inch separation? I would put the barrier closer to the negative electrode so as to give as much open water to the silver ions. And I would not make it too restrictive (overly large). - Steve N From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMy best effort at making CS This was too long to post to the silver list so here is the link: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376 Comments are welcome.
Re: CSMagnets
Heh, This North pole thread is gonna be good for a few weeks. It always is. Magnets DO work for pain though. Had a wrist pain that my old standby DMSO wouldn't touch even after multiple treatments over several days. Finally I taped a neodyme magnet over the most sensitive point and the pain was GONE by the next day and did not return. No attention was paid to polarity... Chuck Don't suspect your friends - turn them in! - Brazil On 5/4/2009 10:46:52 AM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote: I hate to get involved in this controversy again, but, as far as I can determine, the negative magnetic pole is the same as the North pole (it is the same as the north pole of the earth). It is not the same as the north seeking pole (which is the south pole...) Dan On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mary. Yes, the magnets will help with pain management. Just be sure that the negative side (the north seeking side) of the magnet is placed on her skin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.17/2095 - Release Date: 05/04/09 06:00:00
Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic
Two much better solutions: http://opera.com http:mozilla.com On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:50:40PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: That could be it Indi, because I get a little message pops up in explorer to allow pop ups, but when I click to 'allow' nothing happens still. I expect I have set too strict regulations on my browser because of having had viruses before. Thanks for your help. Dee ---Original Message--- From: [1]Indi Date: 04/05/2009 18:30:03 To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Epidemic Avianized Flu Pandemic In Opera I get a little popup with a space to type in my name. Maybe you have popups blocked, or javascript disabled? References Visible links 1. mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com 2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSocular herpes?
The reason being? Thanks for the information BTW! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) www.VitaMixLady.com - Original Message - From: Thora Rasmussen To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: RE: CSocular herpes? If the virus is related to genital herpes at all, two things that work is to avoid chocolate and all nuts at all times. -- From: Lea Ann Savage [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSocular herpes? Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker. I also have a 7 year old son who has had two ocular herpes outbreaks and is going to see a specialist about it because getting it so young (and having two outbreaks within a year) is very serious. He already has scarring from his second attack of occular herpes. This can lead to blindness. I am writing to ask if anyone has had any experience with ocular herpes and if not, what would you do? His current treatment is a drop of liquid anti-viral every 2 hours until the outbreak is gone (this last episode took SIX weeks to clear up!) This medicine hurts his eyes so much he has to wear an eye patch for light sensitivity. I am thinking that colloidal silver would not hurt his eye and that a drop of colloidal silver every hour would work. Does anyone think there would be any contraindications to using colloidal silver in the eye? I know that it is especially helpful on topical infections so I am pretty hopeful. Has anyone tried colloidal silver for lip herpes topically? Any results to report? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com www.PositiveMindRenewal.com www.EatToFeelGreat.com John 13:35 : No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00
RE: CSocular herpes?
If the virus is related to genital herpes at all, two things that work is to avoid chocolate and all nuts at all times. _ From: Lea Ann Savage [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSocular herpes? Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker. I also have a 7 year old son who has had two ocular herpes outbreaks and is going to see a specialist about it because getting it so young (and having two outbreaks within a year) is very serious. He already has scarring from his second attack of occular herpes. This can lead to blindness. I am writing to ask if anyone has had any experience with ocular herpes and if not, what would you do? His current treatment is a drop of liquid anti-viral every 2 hours until the outbreak is gone (this last episode took SIX weeks to clear up!) This medicine hurts his eyes so much he has to wear an eye patch for light sensitivity. I am thinking that colloidal silver would not hurt his eye and that a drop of colloidal silver every hour would work. Does anyone think there would be any contraindications to using colloidal silver in the eye? I know that it is especially helpful on topical infections so I am pretty hopeful. Has anyone tried colloidal silver for lip herpes topically? Any results to report? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com www.PositiveMindRenewal.com www.EatToFeelGreat.com John 13:35 : No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00
Re: CSMy best effort at making CS
Hi Indy, I came up with a figure of 100 micro amps per square inch of surface area by experimentation. This was possible as I had a lot of time and a lot of silver wire. Do I think that the people who say it takes a lot less time are mistaken? I would not make such a statement. If they're making something that makes them feel better and they're happy with what they're doing. As long as they can keep it from turning yellow, but are still able to see the actual particles with one of my laser pointers, they haven't gone that far wrong. In the case of the generators shown, the 1 gallon generator produces the best stable CS that I have been able to make. I have zero experience with HV AC cone methods. I would not go anywhere near that much voltage. Do you have a laser pointer so that you able to see the actual particles? - Original Message - From: Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:41 AM Subject: Re: CSMy best effort at making CS Darn, it happened again that my reply went firect rather than to the list. Sorry, Arnold. Here it is for the list: Thanks for putting this online. I was kind of hoping someone more knowledgeable would comment first, but I do have two questions -- how did you determine that 100 microamps per square inch of surface area was optimum? And do you think that the people +who say it takes a lot less time to make CS/EIS are mistaken? My experience (using HVAC cone method) mirrors yours on the time factor, even though I often see people say they make it much more quickly. I had attributed it to the difference between HVAC and LVDC. Was I mistaken? Thanks, -- indi On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:10:10PM -0700, Arnold Beland wrote: This was too long to post to the silver list so here is the link: [1]http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376 Comments are welcome. References Visible links 1. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376 -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy best effort at making CS
Hi Steve, Yes, I was somewhat surprised myself. My intention with the design of the printed circuit board was to be able to also offer customers a setup with a mason canning jar to be able to make 1/2 gallon per day and have the same quantity of very small particles. But the results are undeniable. As far as the barrier, you have a very good idea. Years ago on the list we had some people experimenting with various approaches to what we called the starved cathode method. It came and went, as so much does here on the list. The 100 micro amps per square inch of surface area that I use an goes back to work that Mike Monet did here on the list. I've found that it had a great deal of merit. The reason for this being valid is the Nernst diffusion area. http://www-biol.paisley.ac.uk/marco/Enzyme_Electrode/Chapter2/Chapter2_page3.htm This only applies only to the anode. The phenomenon that I observed between the results of the 1 gallon set up and the 1/2 gallon setup must have more to do with the the ability of ions to assimilate or truly dissolve into the water before they end up on the cathode. The results are undeniable. That's why I take pictures, even when I am experimenting only for my own information. - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: FW: CSMy best effort at making CS Arnold, Your test results are both interesting and somewhat surprising. I have always used some form of stirring, even when I have used a four inch separation between electrodes. With your one gallon setup you are getting the performance of the sophisticated, automated generators but without the cost or complexity. One question though - do you think the performance of the half gallon setup would be improved by adding a plastic barrier between the positive and negative electrodes to increase the electrical path length between them to something equivalent to the one gallon 4 inch separation? I would put the barrier closer to the negative electrode so as to give as much open water to the silver ions. And I would not make it too restrictive (overly large). - Steve N -- From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMy best effort at making CS This was too long to post to the silver list so here is the link: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376 Comments are welcome.
CSRe: Polarity Switch
Thank you. --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Sam L. one...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sam L. one...@gmail.com Subject: Polarity Switch To: jrf...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 12:43 PM See attached polarity switch jpg I cant post attachments to the list. Sam L -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
RE: CSHigh particle EIS
Information I have states anything under 1 micron is acceptable as a colloid. As some of my particles failed to pass through that 0.45 micron paper filter I mentioned, that makes some of my particles larger than 450 nanometers, which I considered reasonably large, however everything looks fine in the containers so I'm OK with that. I think the ion/particle, better/worse senario is a personal thing, dependant on what an individual chooses to go with, in combination perhaps with how frequent and/or in what manner they ingest or apply it, eg; drink it straight down as opposed to absorbing it sublinguily (sp?), applying it topically, ingesting a quantity (and in what quantity?) every day or only using it when required. No, No, I understand you were not questioning my claim, one can only be guided by their lab stats, incorporating personal observations. N. Subject: Re: CSHigh particle EIS Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:11:46 -0500 From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Neville, Thanks for the info. I will think on it a while. The reason I asked was not to question your claim but I also prefer to increase the amount of small silver particles even at the expense of silver ions (up to a point). I sometimes generate a yellow solution, let it stabilize and then add H2O2 to convert the agglomerated silver and some of the ionic silver to small silver particles. I do this because it would appear that the ionic silver, converted to silver chloride in the stomach, gives a quick punch while the silver particles gives an extended effect. I don't have proof of this. Additionally in vitro tests have shown that silver particles work directly on bacteria and viruses as well as the ions so why not have plenty of both. I may be the minority on this as most here appear to work to minimize silver particles. As another data point, Utopia Silver which produces and sells colloidal silver recently developed an EIS generator to sell that is optimized to generate EIS with a high silver particle content. It uses 48 volts and makes a yellow EIS and even at that it only provides 30% silver particles. BTW, from what I have been to determine silver particles greater than about 1.5 microns are too large to pass through the intestinal walls and so yellow EIS has particles too large. Anyway that is why my interest. - Steve N From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun May 03 21:35:45 2009 Subject: RE: CSHigh particle EIS Hi Steve, Ummm, well that's going to be a little tricky for me to explain. Not wanting to open old wounds, and not having completed my electronics course, I can only say that I *surmise* or *presume* the following is what is occurring, whilst not necessarily understanding the 'scientifics' of it, of which I'm not particularly phased at this point in time as I can continue to study that aspect at my leasure. Simplified, in my circuit I have a diode? LED? whatever they are called but these only allow the 'current'? to flow directional, from the anode to the cathode let's say, whereby predominantly ions may be produced, but when the switch is set in the position for 'current' to flow from the cathode to the anode then the dynamics of the process would change and probably 'works' quicker as the conductivity of the water increases, this I figure will 'encourage' particle clusters to become more predominant, hence possibly increasing the formation of particle cluster content. It usually takes me around 2 to 2 1/2 hours, (dependant on all the factors associated with EIS production, as we all know), to produce around a 20 odd ppm, give or take, but during this time I *carefully* remove the electrodes from the water every 30 minutes to wipe any 'residue' off which may/will be present, and alternate the electrode polarity. The above explanation is why I think I get the percentage of which I spoke. I should add that I use my own home made magnetic stirrer also as I believe this is an important factor in my production process. I had several samples laboratory tested, of varying colours, and one of those results, of a clear solution, came back with: 12mg/l soluble Ag(filtered thru a 0.45 micron paper filter), 23.5 Total Ag (acidified HCL), giving 51/49 ionic/particulate %. These samples were done 18 days after production, well long enough for stabilization to have taken place. Whilst not being able to go into any 'scientific specifics' regarding the above, I believe I understand how I get these results, and can alter that result accordingly. This is where I can pursue the 'scientifics' of it at my leasure by examining more closely my units using DMM's and taking readings etc, frankly, I can't be bothered at this point in time, perhaps at a later date. I have done considerable research since last here and have satisfied myself that my best method of deducing the quality
CSstarter kit
Ode says Abeland [atlasnova] is a decent guy and that design will work, but just a bit more will make it work really well With 2 digital meters [the one shown is from harborfreight.com @ about $7 each..$3 on sale ] One meter to show current, the other to show voltage.. A 10K potentiometer... $1.50 from the shack [Just the resistor works pretty good if it's the right value for the rest of the variables ] and a way to repeatably mount the electrodes, parallel, at a set distance. One meter in series to show current, the other in parallel to show voltage drop as you turn the potentiometer to keep the current constant..when the voltage reaches a point where you like the results..stop. That will be controlled and repeatable. Keep the current low enough and that setup will make very nice CS. ode Hi Ode, Thanks for the compliment. It is quite true that this setup will not make consistently good colloidal silver. As a matter of fact, I have deliberately made it that way. I would like people to go ahead make some yellow stuff by letting it go too long. Keep in mind the starter word is imperative. Hopefully, they will get tired of messing about with batteries and alligator and clips move to one of my proper colloidal silver generator kits that have a circuit board to securely mount the electrodes and monitor of both the voltage across the cell and the current in microamps. http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/abeland1/cspcb.jpg I use a 1K resistor and have the user place the voltmeter on the two volt range. This ends up reading microamps. I have found myself that if I measure current directly with one of these meters, I will invariably put it across a low impedance voltage source. Good night meter. In the old days of the Simpsons and the Triplets you could at least easily open them up and replace the fuse but I don't think I'd want to try to do that on one of these $5.00 meters. I get these myself from my local HarborFreight and try to get them when they're on sale. You gave me a good idea, I will, when someone buys one of my proper setups, offer a second meter at five bucks. It won't cost me any more to ship as it will fit into the same box. When I get someone who simply cannot cope with the idea of doing the amount of work that I'm asking of them, I cheerfully recommend the silver puppy.
RE: CSHigh particle EIS
Neville, Actually, I made a huge typo in the statement I made earlier: BTW, from what I have been to determine silver particles greater than about 1.5 microns are too large to pass through the intestinal walls and so yellow EIS has particles too large. I should have said nanometer and not microns. I agree that particles vs ions is a personal choice/opinion. Admittedly I am one of those who believes in taking a little of a lot of herbs vs a lot of a few. That runs the risk of not reaching a theraputic level of a particular substance. None the less you make a choice based on what you are able to learn. - Steve N
