Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I've read that some babies in Australia have shown symptoms or rickets 
due to this concern about the sun.



On Sunday, Jul 5, 2009, at 04:26 Asia/Tokyo, Annie B Smythe wrote:

 And another factor in the equation is that a lot of people are 
staying out of the sun deliberately; they slather themselves with UV 
blocking sunscreens, or wear covering clothing, when they are outdoors 
in the sun, because of the skin cancer scare.



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Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Or touch a cracked cable.  Yikes.


On Saturday, Jul 4, 2009, at 23:16 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:


  A 12 volt car battery is not a strong shock.
 A car "coil"..IS.
..pull a plug wire and dance baby dance.
at over 20,000 volts

Ode



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[RE]CS>rheumatoid arthritis

[Brooks Bradley]

Hello Reid,
   In reviewing my enormous email back-log, prior to Deleting the majority, I noticed this post regarding a friend of yours.addressing CS as a possible effective protocol.
We have never effected ANY detectable benefit from CS as an arthritis protocol.  However, we have had most effective response to nearly all arthritic challenges (most especially involving the articulating joints of the body) using the following protocol...sometimes with minor derivatives.  Basically, here it is...in summary.all measures are Daily doses.  MSM, 4000 mg daily (in powder form equivalent, or capsuleswe DO NOT recommend experimenters to use tablet form, as many people.especially those beyond 60 years of age cannot properly utilize them because tablet-forms,many times, do not properly dissolve  in the alimentary tract (actually, being passed-through intact a large portion of the time).  CMO (Cetyl Myristoleate ), 1800 mg, approximately, divided into 3 doses
(preferably, taken, 1 hour before or after each meal).  2000 mg Glucosamine Sulphate, taken in one dose...at ones convenience.  1200 mg of Chondroitin Sulphate (or any common form of plain gelatin---such as Knox powdered gelatin).  Additionally, we employed the use of topically applied DMSO, 75% strength @ 75% volume X Emu Oil (undiluted) @ 25% volume of the total mixture.  Applications were made a minimum of twice daily.  Additionally, we utilized LED ARRAYS (10 to 15 bulbs @ 3500 mcd each, applied touching---or nearly so---the affected area. The length of time of exposure varied from 10 to 15 minutes per session.
 Although we have achieved excellent results using Rife-type Plasma Generators, sometimes in lieu of the LED array, the cost of such a device is, many times, prohibitive.
even in those cases involving of "home-made" units.  The LED arrays yielded benefits
almost as effective as our Rife-Type generators, they were an order-of-magnitude less costly.  (e.g. The cost of almost any genuinely effective Rife Plasma-Type generator will
be $1500 dollarsin parts).  The cost of a very effective LED array containing 10 3500 mcd bulbs, is less than $75.00.
 While did find the use of Boron supplements effective( the amount that adheres to the first joint of the moistened index finger when dipped into a container of powdered 20 Mule Team Borax...is quite sufficient as a daily support) we employed them in a more limited number of evaluations.  However, the results were, sometimes, spectacular in nature...and this when the other protocols had reached the limit of their effectiveness.  Our research has revealed that Boron is a much-maligned element and many untruths/spins as to its "supposedly" lethal toxicity have permeated the scientific (so-called) literaturefor decades.  The vast majority of these denigrating claims are totally unsupported by detailed research.  While Boron is, in truth, a trace-element requirement.it is a VERY important one and possesses a high LD number-much, much larger than is generally publicized.  I have used this little Boron supplement, prophylactic-type, support for the immediately-!
 past 10 years.with nothing but excellent results.especially in increasing "range-of-motion and relieving bursitis-type ancillary components.  
  I know this response is quite "after-the-fact" in nature, but I truly believe the  information warrants consideration.
Best Regards, Brooks.
p.s. While anecdotal in nature, it might be of interest to you to note that the simple addition of the little boron supplement GREATLY improved the bone density of our female volunteers (most especially those over 60 years of age).


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rheumatoid arthritis, and am hopeful that someone can give me some account of this.  I have a friend who could be helped greatly by this remedy.  And can someone tell me how/ if it's true that the colloidal gold gives a sense of well being?
 
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Re: CS>Silver excretion rates

[Norton, Steve]

Dee,
You may have misunderstood a part of what I posted. The data showed that you 
can take up to 34 oz of 10 ppm EIS without exceeding the bodys abolity to 
eliminate the silver in one day. To be a problem you would need to exceed this 
amount every day for an extended period. In practical terms I think this comes 
close to being unlimited. Unless you are supplying your friend 2 gallons or 
more weekly there should be no problem. Assuming that the friend has no 
conditions that changes the normal absorption or excretion of silver such as:

* Constipation
* Liver disfunction
* Removed Gallbladder
* Gallstone blockage of bile

If no such conditions exists around 99% of the silver is excreted within a 
couple of days of ingestion. I hope this clarifies the issue some. 

- Steve N



From: Dee Fitzpatrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Fri Jul 03 13:09:09 2009
Subject: CS>Silver excretion rates 


After reading the posts about silver excretion rates, I'm a bit confused.  I 
always thought it was ok to drink as much of the 10ppm stuff as we want without 
causing any problems.  Is this not so then?  I would like to clarify this as I 
have a lot of friends who have silver from me and I have told them it is ok to 
drink every day, within reason.  Grateful for any responses.  Dee 

<>

CS>Vitamin D availability

[Shirley Reed]

   According to John Ott the light we get through transparent plastics and
all glass (nearly all) is deficient in some respects.  Some of the flowers
he tried to do his time-lapse photos on simply would not proceed to the full
flowering from the bud stage without exposure to light from certain
sources.  Some had to have full sunlight, some would flower with light
through plastic but not light through glass and some were opposite in this
way.  I think his work caused us to have available the plant light bulbs we
can now buy.  And since we spend a lot of time in cars with windows up and
we wear glasses and contacts while outside and the eyes use light to set
some internal clocks (so I've read), and in many other ways we are perhaps
light deprived---so many questions and so few carved in stone answers.
Jonathan V. Wright had at least one case where a female could only regulate
her monthly cycle when she exposed herself to moonlight sufficiently!!   And
I've read that we need to be careful about taking Vit. A while supplementing
with D3 to avoid toxicity.  But for my part the jury is in on Vit. D3 and
supplementation is definitely in order.  That www.vitamindcouncil.com site
is really good, imho.   pj

Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Malcolm]

This has been discussed in the recent past, and if my memory serves me
(always wonder about that):

1) The oil soluble vitamins are not 'washed out' by water like C and B's
are; so they remain stored and can achieve toxic levels.  My personal
experience has been that A and E (D-alpha tocopherol) taken to excess
(my excess) make me feel like I did the wrong thing, ucky.  So far vit D
hasn't given me this reaction @ 2,000 IU per day for a coupla weeks
plus.

2)Vit D is made by exposure of cholesterols, in our skin, to sun, or
certain energy levels of light but the formation takes place under a few
layers of the epidermis, and thus doesn't wash off under normal bathing
any more than the cholesterols do.  I dunno what sunscreens do to or for
it. 

3)It usedta be that vit D2 was "The stuff" and added to milk; the
'sunshine vitamin' according to the advertising hypsters.  Now it's vit
D3.  Anyone know what happened to vit D1?  Will we have the new and
improved D4 soon?

4) It's a hormone.

The whole idea that we should "take some thing" -or not - for whatever
is suspect.

Take care, (oops?)
OK; Give care,
Malcolm


On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 16:35 +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
> According to mercola, the trouble with getting Vit D3 from the sun is
> that people tend to shower using products after sun exposure and this
> robs the skin of the vit D which has been made along with cholesterol
> in the skin.  48 hours should be allowed for the vitamin to synthesize
> properly, or you should just allow water to run over the skin, not
> soap stuff.  This is one of the reasons that people's systems are
> depleted.  Dee 
>  
> ---Original Message---
>  
> From: Indi
> Date: 04/07/2009 15:39:14
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
>  
> I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not
> easily
> eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm
> if
> over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it
> needs
> through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn
> out
> to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who
> knows...
> Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D"
> apparently
> have radical differences in their effect on the body.
> Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and
> should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who
> has a
> serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably
> beats
> whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this
> week...
>  
> --
> indi
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Annie B Smythe]

The problem nowadays is, though, that most jobs are indoors, not like in 
the past when we had a more agrarian ruralized population where a lot of 
people worked outside all day. And another factor in the equation is 
that a lot of people are staying out of the sun deliberately; they 
slather themselves with UV blocking sunscreens, or wear covering 
clothing, when they are outdoors in the sun, because of the skin cancer 
scare. Or maybe because of ticks that carry Lyme Disease...


And kids stay indoors more now in front of TVs and video games, which I 
can so totally understand if both the parents are working, in that case 
it's kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't, their safety vs 
time outdoors.. People who live in apartment complexes don't have 
back yards to do a little sun catching. Elderly folks who don't have 
much mobility and fragile skin, or who live in more dangerous 
neighborhoods, or folks who take prescription meds may be hyper 
sensitive to sunlight. I'd say it's probably a huge problem in jails and 
prisons too.


So yeah getting enough naturally made Vit D, produced by the body being 
exposed to sunlight, may be a big problem for a lot of people.


And sunlight coming through windows doesn't count because the UVB rays 
that make vitamin D in the skin are blocked by window glass.


I bought some D3 from Swanson, the most reasonably priced I could find, 
and I've been taking 2000 IU a day for nearly a month. No side effects 
so far as I can tell. I know for a fact that I don't get enough sun, I 
have dark hair but very fair skin, think black Irish, but Scots ancestry 
instead, LOL. Twenty minutes of sun, unless it's very early in the morn 
or very late in the afternoon, would parboil me, even with sunblock 
applied. I know because it has happened before. I definitely don't put 
any faith in sunscreens after I got fried once. I don't go to the beach 
at all, what would be the point? And I make darned sure I can find shade 
if I'm at any kind of outdoor event. And I don't drink milk.


So I take Vit D, and it just makes sense to me, to take a form that the 
body can use better. It's kind of like the differences in the types of 
Vit E on the market and the way the body uses them.



Annie

Kirsteen Wright wrote:



On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Indi > wrote:
 


Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs
through exposure to sunlight. 



Whoever wrote that didn't live in Scotland :-)  You know the old joke 
- "Noah made it rain for 40 days and 40 nights -  and that was the 
best sumer we ever had!"


Cheers
Kirsteen






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Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

[Malcolm]

More better put the volts where the bite is; even a gas-powered string
trimmer puts out more than enough.  Whoo-eee!

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 10:16 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
>A 12 volt car battery is not a strong shock.
>   A car "coil"..IS.
> ..pull a plug wire and dance baby dance.
> at over 20,000 volts
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> 
> At 08:24 AM 7/3/2009 -0400, you wrote:
> >car battery can not shock...
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: Dianne France
> >>To: silver-list
> >>Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
> >>Subject: RE: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important
> >>
> >>I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous 
> >>snake, they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they 
> >>could change the poison in the bite to a normal protein the body could 
> >>deal with and eliminate.  I think they were using a strong shock like 
> >>from a car battery in the emergency.  It's been a long time since I saw 
> >>the video so my memory might not be accurate.
> >>
> >>Dianne
> 
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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Indi  wrote:


> Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs
> through exposure to sunlight.


Whoever wrote that didn't live in Scotland :-)  You know the old joke -
"Noah made it rain for 40 days and 40 nights -  and that was the best sumer
we ever had!"

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I have the Mercola newsletter Indi, and he does a video where he explains
all this quite intensively.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Indi
Date: 04/07/2009 17:24:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
 
Hi Dee,
 
I searched for that info but didn't find it, seems all
searches including the term "mercola" want to scream so many
ads at me I just got overwhelmed by it all. And mercola.com
raises too many red flags; they seem to be into harvesting
email addresses and won't give much info without one.
 
I did find a video by some "health renegade" guy who promised
an answer to the question, but I didn't have the stomach to
survive the first minute of his self-promotion. He did look
like he needed a bath though...
 
Is Mercola one of those people like Rife and Hulda Clark,
surrounded by "vendors" hoping to profit from someone else's
brilliance? If so, what are the good sites to reference his
work?
 
--
indi
 <>

Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Hi Indi I just looked up that link www.vitamindcouncil.com and found info
there, but I have looked up various site (can't remember which of course)
and they keep saying  the same thing as Mercola.  He does seem to research
his subjects quite thoroughly though and its not all sales hype because
initially a lot of stuff he recommended, he didn't actually sell.  I have
had a lot of stuff from him and its all been good too.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Indi
Date: 04/07/2009 17:24:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
 
Hi Dee,
 
I searched for that info but didn't find it, seems all
searches including the term "mercola" want to scream so many
ads at me I just got overwhelmed by it all. And mercola.com
raises too many red flags; they seem to be into harvesting
email addresses and won't give much info without one.
 
I did find a video by some "health renegade" guy who promised
an answer to the question, but I didn't have the stomach to
survive the first minute of his self-promotion. He did look
like he needed a bath though...
 
Is Mercola one of those people like Rife and Hulda Clark,
surrounded by "vendors" hoping to profit from someone else's
brilliance? If so, what are the good sites to reference his
work?
 
--
indi
 <>

RE: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Terry]

If that's the case I should have been dead 5 years ago unless I'm immune to
rat poison.

-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'


Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison.
Good information  at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572

-- Original message from Shirley Reed :
-- 

   About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something
about how research on Vit. D was sparse.  Yet, what had been learned
indicated that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways.
However, its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least
very slow.  Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D.
Only since computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much
more information.  Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a
really great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone.  It seems
it may actually be some sort of master nutrient.  There is much to be
learned, but the site www.vitamindcouncil.com
  will be very enlightening.  What is going
on is that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests
of the few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers.  And it is
being publicized.  Similar to the information about the connection between
iodine deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable
poor health conditions.  My opinion--considered and informed.  Not medical
advice.pj

Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider bite-Second part of 2

[Gaiacita]

Thanks Bob.  I did not know this.  Another great use for a great supplement!

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
 20,000 mg of Vit. C per hour are needed to neutralize snake venom... it
can be ingested as well as IV.
 
 

Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

[Indi]

What if it's been a week since the bite occurred, and one is still weak and
in some pain -- will the jolt still be helpful?
I was bitten by something last Friday, and went through quite a bit of pain
and illness since then. It seems to be getting much better now, currently I
have an icky looking black circle almost an inch in diameter, surrounded by
a concentric red circle of about three inces in diameter on my left inner 
thigh. I thought it was a mosquito bite at first, due to intense itching. 
But then it became hellishly painful, caused my whole leg to swell, and I 
got very ill for a few days. 

I used a lot of tea tree oil on it, which seemed to help, and also drank a lot 
of CS. Day three I made a godzilla device with a 6V lantern battery and have 
zapped it for 20 minutes at a time several times a day since, also used hot
compresses of epsom salt water. All that seems to have helped a bit. 

Yesterday I took a nice long walk around the lake, thinking exercise would be a
good idea, but it seems today it's a bit worse for doing that.
BTW, I'm not convinced it's a BR bite, as I do have a history of being
allergic to many kinds of bugs that don't seem to affect other people.
But this one's been pretty bad...

I'm definitely recovering, but it's taking too darn long!

TIA,
-- 
indi


On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:16:02AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>
>   A 12 volt car battery is not a strong shock.
>  A car "coil"..IS.
> ..pull a plug wire and dance baby dance.
> at over 20,000 volts
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 08:24 AM 7/3/2009 -0400, you wrote:
>> car battery can not shock...
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dianne France
>>> To: silver-list
>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
>>> Subject: RE: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important
>>>
>>> I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous  
>>> snake, they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they  
>>> could change the poison in the bite to a normal protein the body 
>>> could deal with and eliminate.  I think they were using a strong 
>>> shock like from a car battery in the emergency.  It's been a long 
>>> time since I saw the video so my memory might not be accurate.
>>>
>>> Dianne
>
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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Indi]

Hi Dee,

I searched for that info but didn't find it, seems all 
searches including the term "mercola" want to scream so many 
ads at me I just got overwhelmed by it all. And mercola.com 
raises too many red flags; they seem to be into harvesting 
email addresses and won't give much info without one. 

I did find a video by some "health renegade" guy who promised 
an answer to the question, but I didn't have the stomach to 
survive the first minute of his self-promotion. He did look 
like he needed a bath though...

Is Mercola one of those people like Rife and Hulda Clark, 
surrounded by "vendors" hoping to profit from someone else's 
brilliance? If so, what are the good sites to reference his 
work?

-- 
indi

On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:35:10PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
>According to mercola, the trouble with getting Vit D3 from the sun is that
>people tend to shower using products after sun exposure and this robs the
>skin of the vit D which has been made along with cholesterol in the skin.
>48 hours should be allowed for the vitamin to synthesize properly, or you
>should just allow water to run over the skin, not soap stuff.  This is one
>of the reasons that people's systems are depleted.  Dee
> 
>---Original Message---
> 
>From: [1]Indi
>Date: 04/07/2009 15:39:14
>To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
> 
>I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not easily
>eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm if
>over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs
>through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn out
>to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who knows...
>Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D" apparently
>have radical differences in their effect on the body.
>Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and
>should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who has a
>serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably beats
>whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this week...
> 


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Re: CS>Silver excretion rates

[Ode Coyote]

  "Normal" elimination rate is about 94% to 99% in 48 hours.
That leaves 6% to 1% retained.
 Question:  Does THAT amount, retained, further eliminate at the same rate?
Dunno

 What is 99% of 1% ?

Ode


At 07:09 PM 7/3/2009 +0100, you wrote:
After reading the posts about silver excretion rates, I'm a bit 
confused.  I always thought it was ok to drink as much of the 10ppm stuff 
as we want without causing any problems.  Is this not so then?  I would 
like to clarify this as I have a lot of friends who have silver from me 
and I have told them it is ok to drink every day, within reason.  Grateful 
for any responses.  Dee





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Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

[Ode Coyote]

  A 12 volt car battery is not a strong shock.
 A car "coil"..IS.
..pull a plug wire and dance baby dance.
at over 20,000 volts

Ode



At 08:24 AM 7/3/2009 -0400, you wrote:

car battery can not shock...

- Original Message -
From: Dianne France
To: silver-list
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous 
snake, they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they 
could change the poison in the bite to a normal protein the body could 
deal with and eliminate.  I think they were using a strong shock like 
from a car battery in the emergency.  It's been a long time since I saw 
the video so my memory might not be accurate.


Dianne



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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

According to mercola, the trouble with getting Vit D3 from the sun is that
people tend to shower using products after sun exposure and this robs the
skin of the vit D which has been made along with cholesterol in the skin. 
48 hours should be allowed for the vitamin to synthesize properly, or you
should just allow water to run over the skin, not soap stuff.  This is one
of the reasons that people's systems are depleted.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Indi
Date: 04/07/2009 15:39:14
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
 
I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not easily
eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm if
over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs
through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn out
to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who knows...
Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D" apparently
have radical differences in their effect on the body.
Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and
should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who has a
serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably beats
whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this week...
 
--
indi
 
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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

eh?  This is the first I've heard of this!  According to Mercola (and many
others) vitamin D3 in the form of cholecalciferol  is a master vitamin which
controls so many cells in the body.  It is actually a hormone and those with
cancers of all types are always low in this.  Other forms of Vitamin D can
adversely affect the health, especially those synthetic forms.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 07/04/09 13:53:09
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
 
Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison.
Good information  at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572
-- Original message from Shirley Reed :
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FW: CS>Do you know what the white spot in a eye means in a photo??? CANCER !!! and then: Iriscopy/Iridology

[Faith Saint Francis]

From: fesanfranci...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Do you know what the white spot in a eye means in a photo??? 
CANCER !!!
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:16:00 -0500








Delve a little bit into what's called "iriscopy"
it will be a GREAT revelation toya,
either for self-help,
or to serve others.

There are colored spots, clouds of different sorts
(and so, different indications) 'black lagunas' and holes,
all in the irises of your eyes,
where also all the organs in the body 
are drawn.

FaithStFrancis,
still a Reflexologist, now studying Iridology (Iriscopy)

Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:13:45 -0700
From: devorah...@yahoo.com
To: christianincredim...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CS>Do you know what the white spot in a eye means in a photo??? CANCER 
!!!

I was totally surprised to learn something that is so simple to see. Know 
thoughs red dots that show-up on photo's in peoples eye's? Well if it is white 
it's cancer.
 
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24620775-3102,00.html

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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Indi]

I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not easily
eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm if 
over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs
through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn out 
to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who knows...
Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D" apparently 
have radical differences in their effect on the body. 
Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and
should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who has a 
serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably beats
whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this week... 

-- 
indi


On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:52:51PM +, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison.
> Good information  at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572
> -- Original message from Shirley Reed : 
> -- 
> 
>About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something 
> about how research on Vit. D was sparse.  Yet, what had been learned 
> indicated that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways.  
> However, its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least very 
> slow.  Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D.  Only 
> since computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much more 
> information.  Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a really 
> great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone.  It seems it may 
> actually be some sort of master nutrient.  There is much to be learned, but 
> the site www.vitamindcouncil.com will be very enlightening.  What is going on 
> is that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests of 
> the few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers.  And it is being 
> publicized.  Similar to the information about the connection between iodine 
> deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable poor 
> health conditions.  My opinion--considered and informed.  Not medical advice. 
>pj


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RE: CS>Do you know what the white spot in a eye means in a photo??? CANCER !!!

[Faith Saint Francis]

Delve a little bit into what's called "iriscopy"
it will be a GREAT revelation toya,
either for self-help,
or to serve others.

There are colored spots, clouds of different sorts
(and so, different indications) 'black lagunas' and holes,
all in the irises of your eyes,
where also all the organs in the body 
are drawn.

FaithStFrancis,
still a Reflexologist, now studying Iridology (Iriscopy)

Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:13:45 -0700
From: devorah...@yahoo.com
To: christianincredim...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CS>Do you know what the white spot in a eye means in a photo??? CANCER 
!!!

I was totally surprised to learn something that is so simple to see. Know 
thoughs red dots that show-up on photo's in peoples eye's? Well if it is white 
it's cancer.
 
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24620775-3102,00.html

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Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[mborgert]

Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison.
Good information  at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572
-- Original message from Shirley Reed : --    About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something about how research on Vit. D was sparse.  Yet, what had been learned indicated that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways.  However, its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least very slow.  Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D.  Only since computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much more information.  Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a really great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone.  It seems it may actually be some sort of master nutrient.  There is much to be learned, but the site www.vitamindcouncil.com will be very enlightening.  What is going on is that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests of the few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers.  And it is being publicized.  Similar to the information about the connection between iodine deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable poor health conditions.  My opinion--considered and informed.  Not medical advice.    pj

Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'

[Karen and Jerry Conrad]

And not only what Shirley has said but also, it is very easy now for someone to 
have their own Vit D levels tested and people are finding they are very low. 
All you have to do is join Life Extenision Foundation and you can order your 
own blood work from lab core to test you or your familys vit D levels or many 
other labs if desired. Blessings, Karen Conrad
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  From: Shirley Reed 
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  Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:19 PM
  Subject: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'


 About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something 
about how research on Vit. D was sparse.  Yet, what had been learned indicated 
that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways.  However, 
its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least very slow.  
Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D.  Only since 
computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much more 
information.  Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a really 
great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone.  It seems it may 
actually be some sort of master nutrient.  There is much to be learned, but the 
site www.vitamindcouncil.com will be very enlightening.  What is going on is 
that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests of the 
few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers.  And it is being 
publicized.  Similar to the information about the connection between iodine 
deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable poor health 
conditions.  My opinion--considered and informed.  Not medical advice.pj

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[Gary Stuart]

 

Greetings,

 

Please accept my request to join your progressive forum. i currently produce 
small quantities of HVCS at home for family use, but am now confused about 
recent information i have learned regarding HVCS. whether or not this info, 
from a website selling LVCS, is true or not remains a debate, but the seeds of 
doubt have been sown!

 

thanks for your consideration.

 

peace, Gary

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